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Macron has the same agenda as Hollande and Valls, but he's even tighter with the globalists. He was spotted in his 20s by a very wealthy gay sugar daddy, Henry Hermand, who at the time already was a flaming geezer in his late 70s.

Those kinds of arrangements are fairly common among wealthy older gay men. Macron was his boy toy, Hermand had him over for vacations at his private estate in Morocco, and bought him a parisian apartment worth over €500,000 before Macron started pulling big bucks at the Rothschild Bank. Morocco is also pedo paradise, there are many bigtime politicians from France and Europe that are known to have engaged in the most despicable type of activities involving the rape and murder of innocent children.





Hermand "spotted" Macron while he was doing an internship, and placed him in a plum Rothschild M&A banking job. So in Macron, the globalists have a total pawn that they've built up from scratch, and that they can blackmail if necessary (though they probably won't need to because he's ideologically committed to their cause).

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(01-25-2017 05:03 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  
(01-25-2017 02:46 AM)Zamyatin Wrote:  WTF?? In a sane world, that wold immediately disqualify him from office in the hearts and minds of any normal voters.
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How can you say that? He's such a loving son... oh wait...

Married a menopausal barbie.
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In France, home to some of the most beautiful women in the world, he married that? Zero game confirmed. In fact anti-game confirmed. I'd be worried if such a gameless man was running my country.

Compare and contrast to this guy:

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(02-03-2017 08:43 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Compare and contrast to this guy:
Which one? The guy married to Ivanka, the guy married to Melania, or the young guy eyeing the idiots in the crowd he's going to send to Guantanamo in 24 years?Idea
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(02-03-2017 11:42 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  
(02-03-2017 08:43 PM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Compare and contrast to this guy:
Which one? The guy married to Ivanka, the guy married to Melania, or the young guy eyeing the idiots in the crowd he's going to send to Guantanamo in 24 years?Idea

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Wow! What a simple yet powerful video, the official campaign clip of Marine.

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Wow! What a simple yet powerful video, the official campaign clip of Marine.

Powerful.
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Excellent interview from Press TV. Gearoid O Colmain, an Irish Marxist journalist based in Paris argues that the traditional Left-Right cleavage has broken down in France and that the FN has stolen a lot of the old policies of the PCF (Communist Party) and the Socialists. He says that Le Pen is getting support from Muslims, particular from older generation who are opposed to mass migration. The FN is controlled by the Jews who are the ruling caste in France, hence Le Pen's very close relationship to Israel. Contradictions galore in these populist movements.

It's worth a watch.



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On the betting front does anyone have a solid strategy?

I get the feeling hedging with Macron and Le Pen is the best option.
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If Fillon can get through the next two weeks, he'll probably win. That's not a given though, the Sarko LR cucks are turning on him. His scandal is blown up by the media, it's relatively small potatoes and ultimately in three months' time his base will not switch to Macron.

It's a very dynamic race, given the potential shifts and the fact that the race for second place is being played on very small percentage deltas. Whoever gets to the mid/high 20%s in the first round will end up being president.

(02-06-2017 11:34 AM)Traktor Wrote:  Excellent interview from Press TV. Gearoid O Colmain, an Irish Marxist journalist based in Paris argues that the traditional Left-Right cleavage has broken down in France and that the FN has stolen a lot of the old policies of the PCF (Communist Party) and the Socialists. He says that Le Pen is getting support from Muslims, particular from older generation who are opposed to mass migration. The FN is controlled by the Jews who are the ruling caste in France, hence Le Pen's very close relationship to Israel. Contradictions galore in these populist movements.

It's worth a watch.



Interesting, Traktor. But not surprising, as Georges Marchais, the stalwart, key figure from the Parti Communiste for decades, ripped off a lot of his speeches and positions from 1930s nationalist populists, so it's not surprising that those positions got recycled back into Le Pen's speeches. Marchais was opposed to mass immigration from Africa, which he understood was a plot by globalists/industrialists to dilute the power and salaries of French workers.

That working class also had a lot of assimilated Poles and Italians, who were the first immigrant wave to France (like Michel Platini's father, who worked in the coal mines of Lorraine, or Raymond Kopa's Polish miner grandfather who settled in the north), along with some Spaniards and Portuguese later on, and some Africans from the colonies who sided with France in the colonial wars. The floodgates really opened up in the 60s/70s though, with corporations pushing for mass immigration.

The angle that the Communists won't mention though is the ethnic one, another goal of the Globalists being to dilute French culture through immigration (see Coudenhove-Kalergi). You have exactly the same dynamics in the US with Mexican/Hispanic immigration.

Gearoid O Colmain is right about the established Maghreb and African community in France though, they actually have a natural affinity towards nationalist policies, just like Blacks and established Hispanics in the US would benefit from Trump's nationalist industrial and social policies. That's the Alain Soral line.

Unfortunately Le Pen went in the wrong direction, opting for an SJWish, gay-friendly, pro-zionist hard "Laïcité" anti-muslim Geert Wilders line, instead of the more traditionalist, genuinely anti-establishment line that her father had built the party with. Jean-Marie le Pen gave her the keys to the leadership and Marine threw him under the bus. The FN leadership has been stacked with gays and freemasons. She was hoping this would give her some mainstream credentials, but it turns out she is still a total pariah. And it won't help her if Fillon makes it.

Another point Alain Soral made was that Marine le Pen is not a very good politician, because she was handed the keys to the power base that her father built up through decades of skirmishes with the left and the center-right establishment, she's not as sharp as her father was, she's more like Hillary Clinton, who acquired power through nepotism, than Trump, who climbed to the top through shear effort and a well-honed acumen.

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It is obvious that Marine had to create a more mainstream identity far away from her father. She had to in order to survive.

If you have no major mainstream exposure and you are constantly bombarded with the fascist/nazi/literally Hitler, you either stand your ground or adapt. She adapted, and got much more mainstream exposure than her father ever had.
With all the news of attacks on gays by muzzies it would be crazy to not try leverage it and have the gays on your side. It's a HUGE lobby around the world and has a HUGE closet voter base. And some of them, are pretty conservative.
Not leveraging with growing anti-semitism sentiment from muzzies would also be wasted voters.
Don't be fooled, Marine and Marion and all the Le Pen are true conservatives, from a traditional Christian-Judaic country. They just need to make alliances to survive.
She may not be as sharp as her father, but she grew her movement like her father never dreamed of. I would not be surprised if throwing Jean-Marie was on purpose to rebrand FN.

She is not dumb, she knows that she needs to expand her voter base if she wants to be more than an eternal candidate like her father was. In politics, you want to win and rule long. Having moral superiority is pointless, and if you want to win you have to be flexible. Your ideology may be set in stone, but it is always necessary to make deals and concessions. It is wrong to think that otherwise. What a smart politician will do is, he will set the bar so high or divert from the real goal, so when the bar get's lowered to half, it will still be pretty high.

Her father built the structure. She is polishing it.
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She is destroying it, and she is dumb, or at least way out of touch. Turning towards a SJW gay rights platform, in 2017, is incredibly stupid, if not outright traitorous for a true right-wing nationalist. She refused to take part in one of the greatest conservative pro-family pro-Christian march in France, the Civitas march, where women and children were assaulted by Femen freaks armed with fire extinguishers, with the police standing down. Those Soros bitches actually sprayed toddlers in strollers, here is one aiming at a 6mo old baby with complete impunity:

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Le Pen's right hand man and FN #2 is Philippot, an SJW gay man who was recently outed, and whose lover is an SJW pro-Femen gay activist. He's got a whole crew of gay moles behind him in the FN.

http://www.jeune-nation.com/actualite/ac...08#respond

Le Pen dropped the ball by cucking for the gay lobby, allowing Fillon to take from her the conservative mantle. He's the first openly Catholic candidate in years, and has been getting Trump-like flack from the media for this.

No, France is not a "Judeo-Christian" nation, it's a Catholic nation that has been raped by over two centuries of masonic globalist degeneracy. Marion Le Pen might be "Judeo-Christian" though, because her father has actually been outed as a Mossad agent:

https://www.letemps.ch/monde/2015/02/10/...ent-mossad

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It's good that controlled opposition (that's exactly what Fillon is) is taking the flack instead of Marine.

Apparently she went on another march, with a wider base than that one while other FN guys went on the march. I have no knowledge about that issue, and all the information I find is in French as such I cannot comment on it.
I do not agree with letting SJW into your ranks, again I have no knowledge about that issue I cannot comment on it as well.

But like I explained, the gay lobby is very powerful worldwide, and it would plainly idiotic not to try and leverage it, as she apparently has been doing, especially when it is "in danger" from Islam. I totally understand what you mean, but being right and not being in power is much worse than being half-right and with your ass on the throne. You don't need to antagonize all the existing voting base in France just because you are right. That's what most people do not grasp in politics, it is imperative to make concessions. The enemy of my enemy may not be my friend, but I have learn how to use him.

Has Marine better exposure and less shitstorms than her father? I believe so.
Is she polling/doing better than her father? I believe so.
Is she getting more votes and expanding her base while maintaining the core of her "father beliefs"? I believe so.


PS: France, just like every other Catholic nation in southern Europe has a strong base of Judaic-Christian values. I'm not saying that there are/were more jews or jewish influence, but the influence of Jews in our societies has been to big to deny it. And I'm talking influence dating more than 200 years-old. Influence in values, morals, economy, art, gastronomy and naturally religion.
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That Fillon, or anyone under the flag of the "mainstream" right Les Republicains, is controlled opposition is certain. I suppose there is a chance the FN is not controlled opposition, but I am becoming more and more skeptical that all of the so called "far right" political parties in Europe that anyone has ever heard of are anything other than controlled opposition fail-safes.
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Other than being in the closet, what scandals do you think Macron will have?

I'm very tempted to put a big bet on Fillion, 5.4/1 odds look nice, but he's a bit behind the boy wonder.
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Any word from anybody on the ground about this? Any effect it might have?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/...black-man/

Quote:Rioters burned dozens of cars and set fire to a nursery school in the poor northern suburbs of Paris in the latest night of unrest sparked by the arrest of a young black man by officers who have since been charged with beating and raping him.

Police arrested 17 people in the disturbances that hit several different areas in the same suburbs where riots by disgruntled youths of immigrant origin began in 2005 and spread across the country.

President François Hollande on Tuesday evening went to visit the young man who is recovering in hospital after his allegedly violent arrest last Thursday in Aulnay-sous-Bois, and stayed for half an hour at his bedside.

The 22-year-old victim, identified only by his first name, Theo, called on people in the suburbs to remain calm and not to take to the streets, according to the president’s aides.

But that call went unheeded, and the suburbs saw their fifth consecutive night of unrest following his arrest, when he was allegedly sodomised with a police officer's baton during an identity check.

One officer was charged on Sunday with aggravated rape and three others were charged with aggravated assault.

The unrest began on Friday night and by Wednesday had spread to several suburbs surrounding Aulnay-sous-Bois, which itself was relatively calm on Tuesday.

As well as damaging the nursery school and a car salesroom, youths also used a shopping trolley full of petrol bombs in their attacks on Tuesday night, police said.

"For the moment we're talking of very violent but isolated standoffs," said Luc Poignant from the SGP police union.

Several hundred people also took part in a protest march in Paris on Tuesday.

The man’s allegedly brutal arrest has again thrust the issue of policing in France's immigrant suburbs into the spotlight. Officers say that they are often targeted there by gangs and drug dealers.

Many youths in those suburbs say they are often humiliated by police and are constantly stopped and asked for their identity papers.

The 2005 riots, in which 10,000 cars and 300 buildings were set on fire, prompted then interior minister, Nicolas Sarkozy, to declare a state of emergency.

The unrest is playing out against a backdrop of growing political uncertainty in France, with support growing for far-right leader Marine Le Pen and conservative Francois Fillon hit by accusations his wife was paid by the state for a fake job.

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Not a single mention of the perps in that article you quoted. Laugh

Hint: They weren't native French.
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Quote:Those kinds of arrangements are fairly common among wealthy older gay men. Macron was his boy toy, Hermand had him over for vacations at his private estate in Morocco, and bought him a parisian apartment worth over €500,000 before Macron started pulling big bucks at the Rothschild Bank. Morocco is also pedo paradise, there are many bigtime politicians from France and Europe that are known to have engaged in the most despicable type of activities involving the rape and murder of innocent children.


ughhhh.
I always wondered how Macron came out of nowhere to become minister of economy...
well that's an explanation.
Although I had already read about his weird marriage with his now 60-year old (?) French teacher... [judging by the pics she was hot in her 20s, but who cares now.]

The worst about Macron is his how pozzed he really is - check out his statements regarding Merkel's immigration "policy".

Anyways, regarding the situation in the Paris suburbs - no words about it in LeFigaro right now...

I also watched the Le Pen's clip and
"remettre la France en ordre"
would be a great thing to.
Destroy the EU.
Lock down the borders for anyone from Africa and Asia.
Revert the Euro.
Stop the cancer Islam.

None of this will happen, though - the press will unite against them as usual, although Jean Marie is off the radar. The French I know are more pozzed than the Germans [and France is more overrun by invaders, too]. Anyone who ever went to gare du Nord knows what I'm referring to.

Right now I'm reading "le camp des saints" (in French).
I'm getting quite the feeling that it will be prophetic for Europe, unfortunately.
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Can someone elaborate on what the FN's current immigration stance is? Are they promising to drastically cut the rate of immigration to a small fraction of the current rate, or are they merely engaging in the usual cucking about filtering out the criminals and terrorists, careful vetting and other bullshit while letting the demographic tidal wave proceed as usual?
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France gets roughly 200,000 immigrants/yr, mostly (but not completely) from Africa. It's not a huge number relative to its population (about 0.3%), but France is already struggling to integrate its millions of 1st and 2nd gen immigrants. Le Pen would cut new immigration drastically, Fillon would reduce it, the others would not.

France is a different situation from say Sweden in that it has a high level of historic immigration going back to the 1960s. About half of these immigrants from the Maghreb and Africa are fairly well integrated, and half are a major social problem, in part due to the stagnant economy (probelm which say, Germany or the UK don;t have as much). The first generation had decent blue-collar jobs but problems got worse with the economy starting to unravel in the late 20th century (particularly in sectors like steel, auto, etc)

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(02-08-2017 01:38 PM)Fast Eddie Wrote:  Can someone elaborate on what the FN's current immigration stance is? Are they promising to drastically cut the rate of immigration to a small fraction of the current rate, or are they merely engaging in the usual cucking about filtering out the criminals and terrorists, careful vetting and other bullshit while letting the demographic tidal wave proceed as usual?

The FN proposes to make it impossible for anyone having entered France illegally, to become a citizen at a later point in time... It'd be a very good (simple and efficient) policy indeed, because it would send a clear signal to illegal migrants: if you enter Europe illegally, you'll never be naturalized, so stay in Africa.
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(02-08-2017 05:26 PM)Going strong Wrote:  The FN proposes to make it impossible for anyone having entered France illegally, to become a citizen at a later point in time... It'd be a very good (simple and efficient) policy indeed, because it would send a clear signal to illegal migrants: if you enter Europe illegally, you'll never be naturalized, so stay in Africa.

As if illegal immigrants ever care about reading the warning before sneaking in France's border.

Their being naturalized isn't a problem, their presence itself is a problem. What's the difference between being raped by a French muslim or a muslim immigrant (other than the left being able to say "but he is french")?

The truth is simply that immigrants dont need to be naturalized due to anchor babies. Each of these filfth comes here and spit out as many children as possible, who will become French at 16. By having babies they are automatically entitled to a bunch of welfare that comes with it, since the French are a bunch of morally superior upities who get really touchy about anything baby related.

I posted this on the forum before, but remember French law about how you can not throw people out of your house during winter, and especially if there are babies, even though they enter your house illegally?

To be honest though, even with a FN win there's no way to bring France back, save for maybe a morale victory. Enjoy the decline and the last bottle of good Bordeaux wine left. It wont be there comes the time of our children.

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French Jews 'will have to give up dual Israeli citizenship' if Marine Le Pen wins presidential election

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/02/...marine-le/

Despite the headline, she is saying people shouldn't have dual nationality with a non-European country.
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(01-25-2017 07:08 AM)Deluge Wrote:  Fillon has said he's going to close France's borders to refugees.

I believe that this is just talk. He got the vibe that refugees is the hot issue, so he is pandering the talk to appease the rising nationalistic sentiment. This will also help divert some people who like Le Pen's immigration policy but dont agree with her other points, to his camp.

Every straight minded heads here however, know that only Le Pen will walk the walk when it comes to border refugees. I dont trust Filion on this one.




Exactly - only LePen is a real choice. Fillon is like voting for cuck Bush among the Republicans - utterly useless choice of a candidate.

It surprises me frankly that not more French are behind LePen - the country is deeply cucked. How many Frenchmen have the Jihadis to kill before they act, 10.0000 per year, 1 mio. per year? What will be enough?
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(02-03-2017 08:05 PM)911 Wrote:  Macron has the same agenda as Hollande and Valls, but he's even tighter with the globalists. He was spotted in his 20s by a very wealthy gay sugar daddy, Henry Hermand, who at the time already was a flaming geezer in his late 70s.

Those kinds of arrangements are fairly common among wealthy older gay men. Macron was his boy toy, Hermand had him over for vacations at his private estate in Morocco, and bought him a parisian apartment worth over €500,000 before Macron started pulling big bucks at the Rothschild Bank. Morocco is also pedo paradise, there are many bigtime politicians from France and Europe that are known to have engaged in the most despicable type of activities involving the rape and murder of innocent children.





Hermand "spotted" Macron while he was doing an internship, and placed him in a plum Rothschild M&A banking job. So in Macron, the globalists have a total pawn that they've built up from scratch, and that they can blackmail if necessary (though they probably won't need to because he's ideologically committed to their cause).

This Macron simply can't be a serious alternative, he is basicaly french foam boy.

French channers and identaires need to hammer the Rothschild connection hard.
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