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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
Historically Brittany was very catholic, there are some philosophical points shared between Catholicism and the old-school left, and a mutation has happened from religion to politics.

Brittany is also in the far west of France, France is never attacked by the west side, there is the ocean. So people are less suspicious.
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(04-24-2017 06:10 AM)Deluge Wrote:  She did terribly in Britanny also, which is strange because it is the most homogeneous region in France and fairly rural. Head to head polls before the election showed Macron beating her there than by even more than Ile-de-France.

That doesn't surprise me.

Trump did poorly in the primaries in areas that had little "diversity." New Hampshire was a prominent exception but as a rule they went to Cruz. Those who haven't experienced the wonders of "multiculturalism" may clutch their pearls than vote for the "far right." This was somewhat less prominent in the general, as Wisconsin and Maine's 2nd district went Trump and New Hampsire and Minnesota were very close. Plus other states that vote GOP for traditional reasons.

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(04-24-2017 08:18 AM)scrambled Wrote:  
Quote:She did terribly in Britanny also, which is strange because it is the most homogeneous region in France and fairly rural. Head to head polls before the election showed Macron beating her there than by even more than Ile-de-France.

Britanny seems to be a left-wing strong-hold; any reason why? Not enough diversity yet is the only reason? It seems to have voted left for a long time though. I miss Les Chouans.

I could be wrong but I suspect Brittany is becoming a bolthole for trust fund types from other European countries, the kind of middle class well educated semi-hipster types who read 'Der Spiegel', 'The Economist' and 'The Guardian Europe Edition'.
As one of the few beautiful parts of France relatively untroubled by mass immigration from the third world, it's a very attractive option.
Plenty of Irish have moved there, and tens of thousands from the UK too, probably 80% of said folk are standard middle class smug Dunning Kruger liberals virtue signalling their "tolerance and openness" by voting Macron (for those of them that are eligible to vote).
Of course, many of these people are probably not French citizens and so cannot vote, but their views will nonetheless rub off on those around them, they could influence many votes even while not being eligible to vote themselves.
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Le Pen interview a few days before round one:








I sincerely hope she wins.
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< There was a study in Germany last year which said that those people who have contact with the predominantly Muslim refugees are more opposed towards more immigration than those who are not.

Bretagne is a beautiful area of France, but if it is populated mostly by middle and upper-middle class folk who read the Le Figaro and The Economist, then of course they are going to believe everything the media tells them to.


More about Macron: He was an attendee of the Bilderberg 2014 conference in Denmark. Usually they introduce future candidates at such or similar events.


Obama is rumored to have attended too some 2-3 years before his candidacy.

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Globalist confab reveals this year’s list of participants, set to attend in Copenhagen, Denmark, from May 29 – June 1, 2014
FRA Macron, Emmanuel Deputy Secretary General of the Presidency[/b

It is truly amazing how they can boost a virtual nobody to great power while others are plugging away with 50% more brain power and 10 times the effort.

Within 2 years he was promoted to partner at the Rothschild bank - that in itself is also quite telling.

[b]Macron is a symbol of how effective the globalist PR machine works.

Another great win for the Big Boys - and most of the people are like a dumb blonde who says: "It just happened!" She never realized that the seduction process was created after years of honing Game, body, mind, online dating profile, fantastic pics, venue selection and NLP-based seduction techniques that he used expertly to create "tingles" in her - but it just happened in her mind. To the blonde it just happened just like she put on a skirt and her makeup, the guy just woke up, approached her effortlessly and charmed his way into her panties on the first instant-date.

Yeah right - and Macron just happened to fall upwards despite being a cuck who moves in a fidgety way like a lower Beta.

At least Trump was Alpha and he blasted his way forward on truth and sheer personal power.

Macron is like a perfect campaign that was meant to make Hillary look like the loving doting grandmother and not the serial-killing psychopath that she truly is.

Maybe that is the new successful technique the globalists have learned - promote fresh newcomers who have not accumulated too much dirt, make the proles believe that they are outsiders and rebels, in essence create the heroes instead of relying on old corrupt war-horses.

I think that they learned from the Hillary debacle and will increasingly rely on such "out-of-thin-air-candidates".

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Well done boys, you even brought out the Bernie-commie-copy to sidetrack the SJW-marxists.
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(04-24-2017 10:40 AM)Mr. D Wrote:  Le Pen interview a few days before round one:





I sincerely hope she wins.

What she proposes in the vid is nothing spectacular. It is actually being done even today. In times of the cold war and even in the last 20 years it was often applied to potential spies, but mostly to folk no one wanted in the country (Neonazis etc.).

For example a recent example is of Dr. Robert Spencer who has been banned from ever entering the UK. If he ever attempted, then he would be held at the airport and deported to the US. His crime? Islamophobia - and a highly effective one at that, since he knows Islam better than most Muslim scholars.

If the UK can ban Dr. Robert Spencer, then France can easily deport 10.000 foreign nationals who are potential terrorists. In addition she correctly assesses also that potential terrorists of French nationality can be detained under various spying measures.

The recent cop-killer did not have to be released. He should have gotten several lifetimes and the cop would still be alive today.

But alas - they will get Macron and will feel so good for a while for having voted against "racism".
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For all the talk about 10d chess, this is it right here.

They basically create a candidate out of nothing, prop up fillon to kill any lepen momentum pre elections then kill him with a timed court case.

They have the media, state, school systems, eu, etc....

Theyre really playing the game on a whole other field.


As for muslims, as much as i hate radical and political islam i have enough experience to know most are normal good people. Too bad that most arent aware enough to realize theyre the first victims

They think they win if some of them go live in a ghetto in paris and live off welfare. Or that if some guy rapes a blonde theyre sticking it to the westerners.

Meanwhile palestine is raped and their countries are all ruled by royal families who spend their oil on rolls royces.

If muslims want to win the game they should live in dignity in their countries, all be wealthy fuckers not live as beggars and rapists in Europe.

Theyre being used as pawns and dont realize it.

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The media in Europe (inc UK) are putting Macron as the clear winner. As far as I am aware he hasn't won anything except come first in the first round.

Propaganda is strong in this one.
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Official results

M. Emmanuel MACRON : 24,01%
Mme Marine LE PEN : 21,30%
M. François FILLON : 20,01%
M. Jean-Luc MÉLENCHON : 19,58%
M. Benoît HAMON : 6,36%
M. Nicolas DUPONT-AIGNAN : 4,70%
M. Jean LASSALLE : 1,21%
M. Philippe POUTOU : 1,09%
M. François ASSELINEAU : 0,92%
Mme Nathalie ARTHAUD : 0,64%
M. Jacques CHEMINADE : 0,18%

Fake news from the italian website. 3 points win for Macron.

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(04-24-2017 11:25 AM)Beirut Wrote:  As for muslims, as much as i hate radical and political islam i have enough experience to know most are normal good people.

This "majority" argument always completely ignores the demographic specifics of those who actually come to Europe. Sure, I don't doubt either that among the, say, educated middle class Muslims in Beirut or Istanbul there would be many I would get along with perfectly fine (though that's despite Islam, not because of it). But those people are not relevant to the scenario.

Similarly as Germans we always grow up knowing that most Turks we got are from the backwoods of Anatolia which then explains their societal behavior and voting patterns.

What use is knowing that the "majority is OK" when you are systematically getting the very worst?
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(04-24-2017 01:16 PM)atlant Wrote:  
(04-24-2017 11:25 AM)Beirut Wrote:  As for muslims, as much as i hate radical and political islam i have enough experience to know most are normal good people.

This "majority" argument always completely ignores the demographic specifics of those who actually come to Europe. Sure, I don't doubt either that among the, say, educated middle class Muslims in Beirut or Istanbul there would be many I would get along with perfectly fine (though that's despite Islam, not because of it). But those people are not relevant to the scenario.

Similarly as Germans we always grow up knowing that most Turks we got are from the backwoods of Anatolia which then explains their societal behavior and voting patterns.

What use is knowing that the "majority is OK" when you are systematically getting the very worst?

I totally agree and have made that point earlier, that not many decent people will go running accross borders and have fake ids, etc....

I was talking about the muslim world as a whole, or any muslims in this thread for example, who feel they should be for a pro-immigration candidate.

Jean Marie Lepen was die hard anti immigration but his foreign policy would have benefitted muslims more. He would have curbed France support for Israel and wouldnt be a whore for gulf monarchies money like Hollande was.

David Duke may be a white racist whatever but his foreign policy benefits muslims more.

Theres a billion muslims in muslim countries and theyre all living in shit (well except a million maybe in a couple of gulf countries). If a few thousands make it in Europe, it doesnt mean shit.

Theyre playing a game where the europeans lose but the muslims cant win.

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During the election day, a muslim woman has destroyed a statue in a church with an axe. She didn't try to hit people. She said it was a protest about the war in Syria.

The woman speaks arabic and has put a coran in the church.

If it was the same kind of destruction, but in a mosque, there would be at least one thousand headline on the news websites.

Currently, there are only 3 little articles on the news websites.

http://www.midilibre.fr/2017/04/24/renne...97047.php#

Quote:Devant des touristes surpris, la jeune femme se réfugie dans la grotte dite de la vierge, à proximité de l'église, et téléphone longuement en arabe, puis tranquillement rentre dans l'église, sort une hache, et se met à frapper sur le célèbre bénitier supporté par la représentation d'Asmodée. Elle décapite le fameux diable rouge, lui coupe le bras et pose un coran à ses côtés. Elle a ensuite lacéré le bas-relief de l'autel de Marie-Madeleine devant des visiteurs ébahis.
"Vous êtes tous des mécréants !"

Ces derniers donnent l'alerte, le maire intervient. Il constate les faits et appelle la gendarmerie. Face à la jeune femme étonnamment calme, il lui demande pourquoi elle a commis ses actes. Elle répond posément : "Aujourd'hui, ici c'est un jour d'élection présidentielle, pendant qu'en Syrie, l'Occident bombarde et tue des enfants. Vous êtes tous des mécréants ! Mon mari est là-bas." Rapidement sur place, les gendarmes interpellent sans aucune résistance la jeune femme. Un périmètre de sécurité est établi dans le village et une équipe de déminage arrivée dans l'après-midi, se met à l'œuvre. Le maire, Alexandre Painco n'en revient toujours pas : "Cette femme était déterminée et son geste prémédité. Elle a choisi ce jour d'élection, ce lieu précis, pour qu'il ait un impact médiatique important et ainsi porter atteinte à la République française."
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I am watching a debate on TV: FN versus "En Marche"

http://www.bfmtv.com/mediaplayer/live-video/

It's a one on one

It's like watching a fight between a guy who has 10 years of street fight under his belt, and the other guy has never taken a hit in his whole life, until now!
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(04-24-2017 03:15 AM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  - Samseau mentioned a while ago that he only sees extremes among millenials, and few moderates. The same seems to be true in France, the majority of 18-24 year olds went either for Melenchon or Le Pen. This age group had a decent turnout of 71% so it's representative of reality. This age group had a very low turnout in the Brexit referendum, for example.

The oldest generation (+70 years old) went very heavily for Fillon with 45%. Le Pen got barely 10% with this age group.

This says it all. Trump and Brexit won because of older voters. The fact that the wisest and most experienced members of society do not see the dangers of Islam, unchecked rule of EU, open borders, and mass immigration, means France is fucked.

When I was campaigning for Trump, older voters didn't know internet news but they sure as hell knew better than to trust anything they saw on TV. They knew better than to trust Hillary, 6 times out of 10. They didn't rely on info from the net - they relied on instinct honed by decades of hard experience.

How the hell can people who are over 70 trust a guy married to someone 25 years older than him? Supposedly the old ladies of France see it as romantic, and I guess it worked. This would never work in America - old Christian women would despise a faggot weakling like Macron.

But that's the difference between the Anglo world and continental Europe. We've still got our Christian roots, especially among the older members of our population. In France, where adultery is common as rain, seeing a cuck like Macron just arouses the diseased and decadent minds of French women. With no more regard for their Neighbors (only Christians care), the French obviously have no more qualms voting for a cuck adulterous relationship than they do when they ignore how Muslims mow down 200+ people in a concert hall. All that matters is their own, selfish concerns - how does it pleasure themselves, how can they avoid looking mean to Muslims? How can they suck (((banker))) cock for more money?

Even if Le Pen gets 65% of Fillion's voters it won't be enough. Older voters in France do not care about their children (half of them are probably childless anyways) and future of the country. They have no more pride in their past and will now be erased from the history books.

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A video from Feb this year. 7:45 minutes in should be where we are now.



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Laisse tomber la France
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(04-24-2017 06:24 AM)redpillage Wrote:  
(04-24-2017 04:24 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  What the fuck are you talking about?

Europeans could have easily traveled back and forth between the countries while the borders were intact and well-armed.

There were hardly any massive controls between some countries.

European youth did Interrail travel for weeks and months without any problem.

Now they have problems, because they risk getting raped, assaulted and otherwise enriched by your Muslim brothers in faith. Back 15-20 years ago you could send your daughter with a female friend on a trip across Europe.

The most they risked was pickpockets stealing their money, which resulted only in dad wiring them some more. Now the very same girls risk life, limb and mental sanity. That freedom is already gone.

Exactly, I'm old enough to actually remember those days. All my friends rode Eurorail (that's how it was called back then unless my memory is failing me) and the biggest hassle was that you 'may' have to show your passport before a border crossing. There were no long lines at the border, no cavity searches, no problems whatsoever. I hopped borders on a regular basis back then - taking weekend ski trips to Austria and France, don't remember being hassled near the border even once.

The increasing problem is that the newer generation, especially the millenials, do simply not know how it used to be back then, a mere 20 or 30 years ago. They probably think that we had to apply for a Visa just to head over to Paris or to Amsterdam, which is outright ridiculous. Several people I knew back then ventured into Amsterdam on a regular basis smuggling shitloads of pot in their car on the way back (no, it wasn't me - never been into drugs). Sometimes they got caught but the majority of the time they managed to slip through.

Therefore I simply cannot grasp why the older generations continue to support anti-nationalist pro-European candidates. You ask the average person over 40 on the street anywhere in Europe and they will outright admit that things were better for them economically before Schengen and the monetary union. But they keep voting for more of exactly that - cognitive dissonance par excellence.

It's not about visa or border controls. I'm pro border controls, and even pro-visa for all the dickheads roaming around cities like Prague or Krakow pissing in the streets.

However, I want freedom of being able to work anywhere in Europe and economical stability. A referendum in France, even if proven a failure, will create instability and it will affect other countries as well (who may also decide to hold referendums).

The average Frenchman over 40 is probably bitching because his job is being outsourced to countries like Poland where a young university graduate will be paid one third as much but will be more tech savvy and more productive. What he should do instead is get back to work, learn that second language, get additional training and become competitive to French employers by showing that he can bring that extra value. The time of fucking around at work is drawing to an end.
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(04-24-2017 05:32 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  Well, you dont "know that" and I will quote you on that:
"There was always French/Italian control when you take the route via Sanremo to France." "After EU, there's almost no control whatsoever."
-1994, in EU, in Schengen. Still has "border controls". 2017, in EU, in Schengen. Still has border controls.

You can be in Schengen without being in the EU. You can have free trade and movement without being in EU, but apparently you are so brainwashed that you don't recognize that.

I just hope you enjoy your future gay president, and your daily dose of cultural enrichment. Perhaps the 5-10km line was a good price to pay against that.

Dude, you're from Portugal, man. You don't know my country better than me. You obviously don't know the route that we used to take weekly basis during summer better than me.

How many times have you drove via E-80 from San Remo to Nice? I've been doing it for past 20 years, especially in Spring and Summer. I don't think you know the route better than me all the way from Portugal. Focus on the route from Lisbon to Sevilla

Stop going to Wikipedia and searching for EU and Schengen rules. I know those rules much better than you since I work for logistic company for 6 years.

Experience is talking in here. Up until 2000/2001, Italy to France had tight checkpoints. Especially holidays and Fridays, when you're going from San Remo to Nice, it's around like 45-50 km, it would take 2-3 hours sometimes because there would be big line by the border. That's why we used to return very late, around like 3 am or 4 am.

Your Google and Wikipedia doesn't know better than me about that route because I've been taking that route for 20 years, pal. Therefore, I support Macron and I want France to stay in EU. He looks like he will win it surely.

But if there's any Presidential candidate for Portugal, Bulgaria or Romania to pull them out of EU, I would definitely support those candidates in those 3 countries.

Cheers pal.
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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
^ The circular reasoning is strong in this one Big Grin

The fate of the EU is sealed. There are two options. They either collapse or they choose a soft landing. The lack of moral spine required to want an obvious stooge of the system like Macron to win might give you a few years more of your beloved EU and precious Schengen.

Never mind that this will cause an increase in the already endangered France of third world mass migration, as well as an increase in terrorist attacks and crime. But hey, you get to have your precious EU.

I don't understand how an Italian, that should be worried about the thousands of Africans that get to your shores everyday, is rooting somehow for the continuation of the very same suicidal system that is destroying our countries.

This is a clear case of Ostrich Parasitic Syndrome.

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"Christian love bears evil, but it does not tolerate it. It does penance for the sins of others, but it is not broadminded about sin. Real love involves real hatred: whoever has lost the power of moral indignation and the urge to drive the sellers from temples has also lost a living, fervent love of Truth."

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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
(04-24-2017 06:17 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(04-24-2017 05:32 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  Well, you dont "know that" and I will quote you on that:
"There was always French/Italian control when you take the route via Sanremo to France." "After EU, there's almost no control whatsoever."
-1994, in EU, in Schengen. Still has "border controls". 2017, in EU, in Schengen. Still has border controls.

You can be in Schengen without being in the EU. You can have free trade and movement without being in EU, but apparently you are so brainwashed that you don't recognize that.

I just hope you enjoy your future gay president, and your daily dose of cultural enrichment. Perhaps the 5-10km line was a good price to pay against that.

Dude, you're from Portugal, man. You don't know my country better than me. You obviously don't know the route that we used to take weekly basis during summer better than me.

How many times have you drove via E-80 from San Remo to Nice? I've been doing it for past 20 years, especially in Spring and Summer. I don't think you know the route better than me all the way from Portugal. Focus on the route from Lisbon to Sevilla

Stop going to Wikipedia and searching for EU and Schengen rules. I know those rules much better than you since I work for logistic company for 6 years.

Experience is talking in here. Up until 2000/2001, Italy to France had tight checkpoints. Especially holidays and Fridays, when you're going from San Remo to Nice, it's around like 45-50 km, it would take 2-3 hours sometimes because there would be big line by the border. That's why we used to return very late, around like 3 am or 4 am.

Your Google and Wikipedia doesn't know better than me about that route because I've been taking that route for 20 years, pal. Therefore, I support Macron and I want France to stay in EU. He looks like he will win it surely.

But if there's any Presidential candidate for Portugal, Bulgaria or Romania to pull them out of EU, I would definitely support those candidates in those 3 countries.

Cheers pal.

Yeah, support Macron and you'll have that route controlled anyways due to hordes of migrants crossing from Italy and his immigration policies. What a genius.

Materialism and greed wins. Until shit hits the fan and you, and your company will be wiped out.
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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
I think MLP's stepping down from the FN is brilliant 3D chess.

My first thoughts was it was just a pathetic attempt to distance herself from a deeply unpopular party that would fool noone.

Then... I realised, Macron left PS to distance himself from a deeply unpopular party that fooled the electorate.

Marine has just prompted everyone to remember that Macron is basically Hollande with better hair. A guy with 5% approval. A guy both LR and hard-left voters both despise.

Gosh she's brilliant, I kind of regret betting against her. Though Macron would still has the best chance, this is going to be a real fight.

I'll lose $8000 if MLP wins, but it'll be so worth it to see France being given a fighting chance.

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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
(04-24-2017 06:17 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(04-24-2017 05:32 AM)Wreckingball Wrote:  Well, you dont "know that" and I will quote you on that:
"There was always French/Italian control when you take the route via Sanremo to France." "After EU, there's almost no control whatsoever."
-1994, in EU, in Schengen. Still has "border controls". 2017, in EU, in Schengen. Still has border controls.

You can be in Schengen without being in the EU. You can have free trade and movement without being in EU, but apparently you are so brainwashed that you don't recognize that.

I just hope you enjoy your future gay president, and your daily dose of cultural enrichment. Perhaps the 5-10km line was a good price to pay against that.

Dude, you're from Portugal, man. You don't know my country better than me. You obviously don't know the route that we used to take weekly basis during summer better than me.

How many times have you drove via E-80 from San Remo to Nice? I've been doing it for past 20 years, especially in Spring and Summer. I don't think you know the route better than me all the way from Portugal. Focus on the route from Lisbon to Sevilla

Stop going to Wikipedia and searching for EU and Schengen rules. I know those rules much better than you since I work for logistic company for 6 years.

Experience is talking in here. Up until 2000/2001, Italy to France had tight checkpoints. Especially holidays and Fridays, when you're going from San Remo to Nice, it's around like 45-50 km, it would take 2-3 hours sometimes because there would be big line by the border. That's why we used to return very late, around like 3 am or 4 am.

Your Google and Wikipedia doesn't know better than me about that route because I've been taking that route for 20 years, pal. Therefore, I support Macron and I want France to stay in EU. He looks like he will win it surely.

But if there's any Presidential candidate for Portugal, Bulgaria or Romania to pull them out of EU, I would definitely support those candidates in those 3 countries.

Cheers pal.

Who cares anyway about the border. Seems like being in the queue of half an hour and have your passport checked is a huge problem. I do with a huge smile when it comes to cross the Ukrainian border by bus for example! It prevents also bad guys and lazy people to come!
I am pretty sure that you support PD (minus L) in Italy, that would explain why you are still convinced that everything is going good in France and immigration shouldn't be controlled. Typical propaganda of that party, that nowadays is convincing only some Left "Ultras".
Islamic immigration was a huge problem, even when I was living in France many years ago, I can't imagine how it could be now; it doesn't make sense to me to visit dangerous towns being worried about my safety while I walk on the streets.
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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
(04-24-2017 05:46 PM)Pointer Wrote:  The average Frenchman over 40 is probably bitching because his job is being outsourced to countries like Poland where a young university graduate will be paid one third as much but will be more tech savvy and more productive. What he should do instead is get back to work, learn that second language, get additional training and become competitive to French employers by showing that he can bring that extra value. The time of fucking around at work is drawing to an end.

Ridiculous understand of how the economy within the EU works.

1. Plenty of companies get massacred by German big ones who are more productive and can outcompete the rest of them

2. Outsourcing within the EU usually only comes when those respective countries offer subsidies. Poland for example hardly does, but others do. The overwhelming majority of jobs were outsourced from France to China and not within the EU.

3. The idea that 10-20% of the population will be able to learn and become competitive is nuts.

Nah - what the globalists want is France which resembles China. And even then will they not stop outsourcing manufacturing, because they don't intend Europe to stay industrialized much. This mantra of COMPETE OR DIE is only for the proles, but they are like dogs thrown down a well - almost everyone will drown, those that paddle the hardest will drown last.

Attali already pointed out that he wants Europe to transfer into a Dickensian style economy where the unseen hand of the market will take loving care of the workers just as it did in the 19th century.
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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
Macron lackey proposes his marvelous anti-terror policy:

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/04/front...-islamists

Quote:En Marche presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron slammed Marine Le Pen’s proposal to arrest radical Islamists saying it would be counter-productive to intelligence efforts.

Mr Macron took direct exception to Le Pen’s comments Friday morning when the Front National presidential candidate called for the arrest of all known radical Islamists and the deportation of Islamists without French citizenship Le Figaro reports. Le Pen made the comments after reports that the shooter of three police in Paris Thursday night had been known to police as an Islamic extremist.

“The goal is an intelligence goal,” Macron said. ” If you put them all in jail, first of all, it is not in accordance with the law,” he added, “The goal is to follow them. The police must be able to work in the best possible way.

So following them is better than deporting them.
AS if any country can follow 15.000 potential Jihadis. You would need 200.000 cops to do that on the ground.

Deporting them and banning them for life from entering Europe is soooo tough indeed.
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