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http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/7...orm-Frexit

“But at the same time we have to face the situation, to listen to our people, and to listen to the fact that they are extremely angry today, impatient and the dysfunction of the EU is no more sustainable.


Europhile centrist Mr Macron said that failing to press for serious reform of the EU during his first four years would be a “betrayal” of both the project and the French people.

And he predicted that if it fails to adapt Ms Le Pen and the Front National will come back even stronger in 2021, when pro-EU forces may no longer be strong enough to keep them out of power.

Mr Macron said French people were “angry and impatient” with the current state of the EU project and would not give Brussels long to prove it was snot “dysfunctional and no longer viable”.

Pressed on whether he would pursue the status quo set by My Hollande, he replied he would not and said: “And I don't want to do so. Because the day after, we will have a Frexit or we will have the National Front (FN) again.”

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(07-12-2017 04:21 PM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/7...orm-Frexit

“But at the same time we have to face the situation, to listen to our people, and to listen to the fact that they are extremely angry today, impatient and the dysfunction of the EU is no more sustainable.


Europhile centrist Mr Macron said that failing to press for serious reform of the EU during his first four years would be a “betrayal” of both the project and the French people.

And he predicted that if it fails to adapt Ms Le Pen and the Front National will come back even stronger in 2021, when pro-EU forces may no longer be strong enough to keep them out of power.

Mr Macron said French people were “angry and impatient” with the current state of the EU project and would not give Brussels long to prove it was snot “dysfunctional and no longer viable”.

Pressed on whether he would pursue the status quo set by My Hollande, he replied he would not and said: “And I don't want to do so. Because the day after, we will have a Frexit or we will have the National Front (FN) again.”

That is the only reason he is saying what he does.

"Yes - you angry - little sheeple. Let me assure you - I will say the right words, but will do exactly as before, so that you idiots don't elect true shitlords like Le Pen!"

He reminds me of the ruling party in Austria which is facing the likely option of the anti-Islam party FPOE actually winning 50%+ this year. So what did they do about it since last year? They claimed they went full hardline, they said Trump-like words against migration. They even aligned themselves in terms of words with the dissenting EE states like Poland - only of course in terms of words, but zero actions.

And what really happened? Nothing - 50.000 came in the first half of 2017 and they are getting asylum, full social benefits of the locals. Since there are now more black Africans, there is less rape and terror than with the Muslim rapefugees, but long-term it will be almost equally destructive.

So the strategy seems to be to say the right words, claim righteous anger and then continue butt-fucking the local population like the previous traitors.
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(05-27-2017 11:21 PM)Latinopan Wrote:  
(05-18-2017 07:01 PM)911 Wrote:  ^^^^They should have kept one bottle of wine on that map
next to the kebab in Bordeaux, that's where the Rothschilds
have their winemaking business.


So Marlène Schiappa, Macron's 34yo appointed Minister of Gender
Equity, who will spearhead the new effort to ensure that all HR depts
in France are compliant with the new set of gender equity rules, is a
published author. She wrote a book titled "Dare to Love Chubbies"
touting chubby chicks in which she claims that fatties are the best
at giving head
:

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Which is part truth, given they know deep down they are not as desired as least fat than them, they have to compensate with something, just like fatties are more likely t have huge cleavage, compensate.

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Apparently Butterface the minister of social justice and feminism wrote other books under a pseudonym including "How to have a successful divorce", "good girls dont swallow", "Hot inner cities" (a book about a conservative upper class married mom who dumps the patriarchy and "enriches" her life by shaging immigrants), and "Dare to have fuckbuddies".

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She's already talked about making the fight against manspreading and rape culture a government priority, and of making street "harassment" an automatic 5000 euro offense.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/j...ment-fines

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Macron to eliminate housing benefits for 50,000 people in France

Quote:While French President Emmanuel Macron announced only a €5 cut to monthly Personal Housing Aid (APL) for low-income people, the state is in fact threatening to totally cut off tens of thousands of people from housing benefits.
Due to a benefit cut-off set up in January 2007, anyone receiving less than €15 monthly in housing aid is thrown off the APL rolls. According to BFM-Business, “With the across-the-board cut now announced, all those receiving €15-19 monthly will simply be thrown out of the system.”
According to data of the National Fund for Family Benefits (CNAF), nearly 50,000 people will be totally cut off from housing aid. This includes 20,224 recipients of APL, 8,415 recipients of Family Housing Aid (ALF), and 19,757 recipients of Social Housing Aid (ALS).
The French state spends approximately €18 billion yearly on housing aid. Thanks to this €5 monthly cut, it plans to cut spending €32 million per month, or €360 million per year. Thus, with its €5 monthly cut, the state is not just slashing yearly benefits by €60 per recipient; it is cutting up to €228 per year, given the many thousands of recipients who are receiving between €15 and €19 per month.

This cut symbolises the class character of the Macron administration, which arrogantly slashes benefits for students and working families while handing over untold billions to the super-rich.
The APL cut is simply an initial taste of tens of billions of euros in social cuts and attacks on the working class that Macron has been preparing to unveil since his election in May, while he simultaneously hands billions of euros in gifts to the wealthy. These gifts, including cuts to taxes on large fortunes (ISF) and on financial securities income, would cost some €7 billion, according to the French Observatory of Economic Situations (OFCE).
It is not hard to see which social benefits are set to benefit under Macron. According to the news magazine Marianne, “The judgment is devastating: for the top 0.01 percent in this country, the two key measures of Macron would mean tax cuts on the order of €1 million per year and per household.”
According to an OFCE research note, Macron’s tax cuts will net on average €4,225 for the top 1 percent of Frenchmen, that is, a 3.1 percent increase in purchasing power. However, for the bottom 90 percent of the French population, the average reduction in taxes will be €55, or 0.3 percent on average. This minute gain will be compensated, however, by deep cuts to key social services on which masses of people rely in France.
According to Marianne’s calculations based on OFCE data, “in fact it is even more interesting to ask who benefits among the wealthiest of the wealthy, at the top of the income ladder, that is to say for the wealthiest 0.01 percent. In this income layer, a couple with two children has income from financial securities of €3.4 million of the overall annual income of €6.3 million. For them, the tax cut arising from the unitary tax withholding system [replacing the ISF] would be considerable, nearly €450,000.”
This measure exposes the illusions in Macron promoted by all the major French media, that he was a young entrepreneur who would by sheer dynamism alone revitalise France’s economy. In fact, he plans to make France more attractive to investors by massively expanding social inequality. He aims to intensify austerity by carrying out social reforms, including the labour law, aiming to eliminate all the social rights obtained by workers in the struggles of the twentieth century, while also spending billions of euros on wars and the army.
On August 2, the French parliament definitively adopted the enabling act authorising the Macron administration to rewrite the labour law by decree. The reform, which is deeply unpopular, includes measures such as imposing a maximum on fines for unfair dismissal in the labour courts; allowing enterprises to negotiate contracts violating national labour laws and industry-level accords; and facilitating sackings.
Macron also plans to cut pensions and unemployment benefits by decree. The introduction of a pay-in system for pensions is intended to allow the state to move towards the abolition of the social right to a fully publicly financed pension. With unemployment benefit “reform,” oversight and harassment of job seekers will be reinforced, while the duration of unemployment benefits will be cut.
The announcements of cuts by the Macron administration are provoking broad opposition among workers. Though he was inaugurated only three months ago, Macron and his government are already unpopular. According to recent polls, his approval rating has fallen rapidly, to 40 percent, the fastest fall for a newly elected president since the creation of the office of the presidency in 1958.
This collapse in popularity is the population’s initial judgment on Macron’s attempt to set up a naked dictatorship of the financial aristocracy. The housing benefit cuts, a wage freeze in the public sector, and a planned tax hike on retirees are all provoking growing anger.
Ifop pollster Jérôme Fourquet commented that Macron’s fallen popularity is due to the government’s “austerity policy…[and] various discontents and complaints coming from very diverse layers of the population,” including working women, public sector workers, and retirees.

Notice now even the left is starting to really hate on Macron. I think the dropping popularity polls are somewhat accurate.

The simple fact is that Macron made impossible promises for an impossible situation. There is no way France can continue it's welfare state with a backbreaking load of migrants, so he must slash welfare for the poor to discourage more from coming.

At the same time, the right does not like Macron because he isn't tough enough on the borders. Why slash welfare to discourage people from arrival when you should just seal up the borders and then allow welfare for the poor already here?

Macron is playing a dangerous moderate game to appease both sides, but he is in real danger of failing to please either. The shitshow of French politics thus continues...

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Interesting...360
The lefties must be going crazy out of nothing (to be honest cutting 360 million out of 18 Billion is a meager 2% slash).
What kind of aid is 15-19€ for housing? In France? Is it even relevant? I don't think so. It's just a freebie for the actual landlords as It only inflates the price of the rent.

But i do agree with you Samseau "Why slash welfare to discourage people from arrival when you should just seal up the borders and then allow welfare for the poor already here?"
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Assuming he delivers on his promise, I dont think it's that bad (given that we already know him for the little shit he is)

He needs to be tough on borders, and be tough on the welfare, but Macron being Macron he will only do one or none. Let's assume best case scenario he closes the borders, that still leaves thousands upon thousands of welfare munchers in France. Including the leftists crybabies pyjama boys. Slashing welfare is actually a good thing, it drains the aid for the already non-productive elements of society while discouraging incoming immigrants.

Quote:Why slash welfare to discourage people from arrival when you should just seal up the borders and then allow welfare for the poor already here?

We all know that no one will or can ever close the borders in France, including Le Pen short of a Frexit referendum. And plus, it doesnt solve the problems of the millions already inside munching off welfare. So this is perhaps the best thing he can do.

It's not like he is doing it for our interest anyway. Bitch is cutting funds from everywhere, including the army, forcing the Sergeant Major of the Army to retire after he told the old man "I'm the boss"

Mind you this is only to test the water. 15e recipients is nothing. Then he cuts off anyone receiving less / more x amounts. Then he cuts everyone off altogether. Then he raises taxes. Then he goes "tough luck plebs, we going draconian now, deal with it". The French being the French will just let him do it while throwing a few riots for show, then get back to their "sophisticated" way of life.

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Good stuff Sameau and I really wonder about some men even thinking that this globalist stooge is going to be anything but the worst for the French people:

Quote:On August 2, the French parliament definitively adopted the enabling act authorising the Macron administration to rewrite the labour law by decree. The reform, which is deeply unpopular, includes measures such as imposing a maximum on fines for unfair dismissal in the labour courts; allowing enterprises to negotiate contracts violating national labour laws and industry-level accords; and facilitating sackings.
Macron also plans to cut pensions and unemployment benefits by decree. The introduction of a pay-in system for pensions is intended to allow the state to move towards the abolition of the social right to a fully publicly financed pension. With unemployment benefit “reform,” oversight and harassment of job seekers will be reinforced, while the duration of unemployment benefits will be cut.

This is pure dictatorial power bypassing essentially all checks and balances. Changing labor laws that were created with the blood (literally) of previous generations by fucking decree!!!!!!

1 million more for the 0,01% household, 4000$ more for the 1% household, but billions less for the millions at the bottom.

Also I am very certain that one group - the immigrants and eternally unemployed Muslims will never be harassed out of their benefits, because those buggers raise a ruckus over anything. They just pop out 2 more kids and their financial trouble is over.

Quintus - I expect your letter of apology by the end of the day - hehe.

And before anyone says that the French are too socialist - yes, that is true to an extent. The bigger problem is that countries like the US with the 2 weeks paid vacation and 38-hours-being-not-full-employment system - also people working 3 full jobs and still barely making it - that is too much.

Our output productivity is high enough for most people to work 20-25 hours on full pay - only then could we have full employment. Also many female dominated jobs are useless.

The labor laws in Germany - the most effective European economy - they are not far behind France and the ones in Switzerland are also similar. Both economies are super-effective and prove that you can pay your burger flipper and supermarket cashier high wages - all without descent into socialism.

What Macron is doing is simply the return of Dickensian economics of a tiny upper class, a small middle class, a large underclass and the future eternally unemployed ones. That is the globalist model for the future of the world.
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Macron also slammed property owners with the ISF, tax on wealth, while exonerating financial assets. If you have a 100 million portfolio, you get a wealth tax break, but if you've spent decades paying for a nice house for your family, or inherited the family home, time to pay up, you dirty capitalist.

Tax break for his billionaire masters and a hit on the upper middle class, Rothschilds and co preying on the middle class. That's the kind of law Fillon would have never passed.

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Quote:Macron at 36 Per Cent Approval Rating Amongst ‘Sceptical’ French

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One hundred days since the beginning of his presidency, Emmanuel Macron has a lower approval rating amongst the French electorate than the massively unpopular François Hollande had at the same time in 2012.

Jérôme Fourquet, the director of the opinion poll company Ifop, said President Macron, who declared he would govern like a “Jupiterian” ruler, “weigh[ing] his rare pronouncements carefully”, is no longer benefiting from “the magic of his campaign”.

“There is no longer a summer truce and there is no state of grace,” Fourquet said, according to Le Figaro.

Former President Hollande, the country’s least popular president since World War Two, had a satisfaction rate of 46 per cent 100 days into his presidency.

The paper remarks that “the outlook is also worse” when considering only “23 per cent of respondents believe that the country is moving in the right direction. They were 45 per cent in August 2007 [under former President Nicolas Sarkozy].”

“The successes in the presidential and legislative elections, the political recomposition with the appointment of right-wing personalities to the government … the political positioning of the President of the Republic, evaporated,” observed Fourquet.

“Even the announcement of the Olympic Games in Paris does not seem to have a positive effect. The French are waiting for results and a clarification of the reforms.”

“But, on the whole, it is scepticism that prevails,” emphasised Fourquet.

The pollster predicted that the long-term outlook for a French president’s term can be determined by the first summer’s polling figures.

“The perception of a quinquennium [five-year term], as we saw with the bling-bling of Sarkozy or the hiccups of Holland, is formed from the first summer,” he explained.


The French, who favour mainly socialist programmes, also polled 60 per cent dissatisfaction in the decline of housing subsidies and changes to income contributions (53 per cent dissatisfaction).

As a candidate, former banker Macron pledged to ‘liberalise’ France’s labour market – long demanded by Eurozone partner Germany. The reforms were approved by parliament in early August – much to the ire of workers’ unions.

Following his election, thousands of far left, anti-capitalist activists took to the streets in protest, and during the campaign, Macron was booed in his hometown of Amiens by Whirlpool workers, whose jobs were to be outsourced to Poland, as he tried to convince them of the benefits of globalism.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/...al-french/

Turnout for the second round in the presidential elections was significantly lower than the first round. The people who stayed home were mostly boomer Fillon voting cucks and working class Melenchon voters who were repulsed by both candidates. Turns out the latter are being proven right about their skepticism of Macron more and more every day - he's an establishment neoliberal shill.
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(08-13-2017 03:57 PM)RaccoonFace Wrote:  http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/08/...al-french/

Turnout for the second round in the presidential elections was significantly lower than the first round. The people who stayed home were mostly boomer Fillon voting cucks and working class Melenchon voters who were repulsed by both candidates. Turns out the latter are being proven right more and more every day - Macron is an establishment neoliberal shill.

Like I said today in the European Invasion thread: Every country gets the government it deserves. A majority of the French still thought that this is all just a big game and that voting in this year's election was a bit like picking your favorite desert at a salad bar. Anyone but Le Pen!! Remember?

Well, now you must lie in the bed you made for yourselves. Next time you may not be so stupid as to pick a complete unknown who had obviously been secretly groomed to take over for Hollande, who by the way everyone hated.

I truly think that Europe NEEDS and DESERVES a few decades of extreme hardship. They have completely lost any sense of priority, honor, national pride, responsibility, or sovereign duty. Every single Frenchmen alive today effectvely won the genetic lottery by being born in a country that used to be full of beautiful women, world famous for its rich cousine, beautiful countryside and coastlines, produced great music (okay used to), great literature, science, philosophy, and of course a spoken language that gets most foreign pussy wet on sight. But no, they just had to piss it all away, because you know, social justice, liberty for all, and all that shit.

The French, the Germans, the Swedish, the Brits, they can all fuck off at this point. Let them burn. No fucks given.

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(08-10-2017 10:45 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  What Macron is doing is simply the return of Dickensian economics of a tiny upper class, a small middle class, a large underclass and the future eternally unemployed ones. That is the globalist model for the future of the world.

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(08-10-2017 10:45 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Good stuff Sameau and I really wonder about some men even thinking that this globalist stooge is going to be anything but the worst for the French people:

Quote:On August 2, the French parliament definitively adopted the enabling act authorising the Macron administration to rewrite the labour law by decree. The reform, which is deeply unpopular, includes measures such as imposing a maximum on fines for unfair dismissal in the labour courts; allowing enterprises to negotiate contracts violating national labour laws and industry-level accords; and facilitating sackings.
Macron also plans to cut pensions and unemployment benefits by decree. The introduction of a pay-in system for pensions is intended to allow the state to move towards the abolition of the social right to a fully publicly financed pension. With unemployment benefit “reform,” oversight and harassment of job seekers will be reinforced, while the duration of unemployment benefits will be cut.

Also I am very certain that one group - the immigrants and eternally unemployed Muslims will never be harassed out of their benefits, because those buggers raise a ruckus over anything. They just pop out 2 more kids and their financial trouble is over.

I'm guessing the structure was designed to disenfranchise as many French as possible to begin with.
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(08-13-2017 04:35 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  I'm guessing the structure was designed to disenfranchise as many French as possible to begin with.

This is going on for quite a while now, as French I've seen it & been subject to it too.
People with half less means getting way better situations, it's like they're trying to punish the middle class for trying to get out of the this shitty situation.

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(08-13-2017 07:25 PM)blck Wrote:  
(08-13-2017 04:35 PM)DarkTriad Wrote:  I'm guessing the structure was designed to disenfranchise as many French as possible to begin with.

This is going on for quite a while now, as French I've seen it & been subject to it too.
People with half less means getting way better situations, it's like they're trying to punish the middle class for trying to get out of the this shitty situation.

Well - France was a hotbed for actual marxism until the the 1970s which was only replaced by postmodernism & cultural marxism (both only covers for full-on Stalinist marxism).

The unions still sometimes go berserk and even kidnap managers - hold them for hours - when layoffs are announced.

I am personally for strong unions, but a sane version has to be done similar to Switzerland or the old German model where it's more a negotiation between partners who try to live with each other. That is the most beneficial to both parties. Too much exploitation you get a Dickensian economy - too much seeming labor union power and you either destroy the company or get communism. The balance lies in the middle, so that the owners make decent cash and the workers get paid for their honest work - and the company survives long-term.

But the truth is that many French would be for some minor deregulation - they did not expect however a raping of the middle class by the "outsider". My guess is that his support among the liberal upper middle and middle class was very high. Now they will have to pay for it while the 0,001% remain unscathed - well they were giving their boy the marching orders and were signing his checks, so of course they remain untouched. Also the wife of Macron falls in that wealth bracket.
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(08-14-2017 12:05 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Also the wife of Macron falls in that wealth bracket.

Does she? She's heiress to the biggest chocolate shop in town. That must have been a huge deal to little Macron when he was 15, but in the grand scheme of things, she isn't super rich.

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(08-14-2017 02:13 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 12:05 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Also the wife of Macron falls in that wealth bracket.

Does she? She's heiress to the biggest chocolate shop in town. That must have been a huge deal to little Macron when he was 15, but in the grand scheme of things, she isn't super rich.

Yeah - you are right. Macron is more well-off than she is.

She was probably better connected, but for fuck's sake he married her for true love and attraction mainly?

She would have to be worth 100 mio. $ + for most men out there to try and take that viagra while thinking about hotter women.

But fear not - the payoff for Macaron will come after he leaves politics. He will make 100 mio. $ easily just like most traitor-presidents.
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Quote:Wife of French President, Brigitte Macron, go get new official title but nobody go take mouth call her "First Lady."
E pass 300,000 people for France wey sign petition say dem no go gree make she get official title as First Lady.
French people no still want make Mrs Macron collect any money from France to do any of her waka-waka.
Na all dis one make the Presidency present "transparency charter" wey go show everything wey Mrs Macron go dey do; the paper still show say na her husband, President Emmanuel Macron, wey go dey give her money to use.
Dem say Mrs Macron go dey do things for civil society wey concern education, health, plus women and children matter.
Dis charter na new thing for France, and for inside am dem call Brigitte "the head of state's spouse."

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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/08/hugh-...management

A good article on Macron and his stellar drop in popularity from 65% to 35% as he turned out exactly as many of us have said.

He was a pure globalist stooge and would promote globalism, usher in austerity, destroy the power of the unions, invite millions more of immigrants, promote and coddle Islam while being "tough" on dissenters and those racist Eastern European nations and Russia who are not playing ball.

Oh - and he spent some 30.000$ on makeup alone up to this day. I wonder how much his first wife needed - must be 150.000$ to put on a new face so as not to appear as his grandmother.
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RE: French Presidential Election Thread
(08-29-2017 04:07 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Oh - and he spent some 30.000$ on makeup alone up to this day. I wonder how much his first wife needed - must be 150.000$ to put on a new face so as not to appear as his grandmother.

She needs to spend more.
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