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"^ Opposites attract, and Peruanas are darker… You brought sand to the beach, dawg"

Haha, I'm lucky to be more attractive to Colombian women I guess.
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Great story, I liked the part about the girl coming to the airport.
How common are (mixed) Japanese Peruvians in Miraflores?
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^ I saw significant numbers of them (but obviously a minority of the total amount); the eyes give it away.
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Thanks Scrambled.
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(08-03-2017 08:21 PM)Robert Plant Wrote:  For me Lima was not that easy. I actually do much better in Colombia. I'm tall with Mediterranean skin and dark brown hair. Maybe blond is more important in Peru than Colombia?
Comments like this are helpful when they come from a credible forum member like Robert Plant. If enough guys who have spent a short time in a country put together all their experiences then that information can help us figure out what works and doesn't work in a country.

Blond guys have an advantage in Peru for sure and I wouldn't suggest for black guys or dark-skinned Latin or Asian guys to go to Peru for the women. However, I know blond guys who didn't like Peru and I know a white guy with dark hair and dark skin who probably did better in Peru than any other forum guys.

The real secret to Peru is time. It takes time to figure out that place. It's a good place for a 1 month trip if a guy has a good combination of attractiveness, game, and Spanish. If a guy doesn't have much of those things then it is a good place for a 3 month trip or longer. I'm sure that a guy like Robert Plant would do well in Peru if he had enough time to work with.

(08-04-2017 08:46 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  Robert I had a similar experience to you. I got far, far, far better receptiveness from girls in Colombia than in Peru (including Lima), and also have the tan/Mediterranean skin and dark hair (and dark eyes)
Comments like this are not as helpful because they don't come from a credible source. I thought Australia Sucks was going to stay out of these threads after he got called out by Papi Rico, GlobalMan, OffTheReservation and others.

I don't want to say anything about this but I must because I promised Australia Sucks I would say something if he didn't follow through on his plan to stop posting in these threads. In a recent PM I called him out regarding the inaccurate information he has posted in the Travel section. I did this politely in a PM because I didn't want to make a big deal out of it if he followed through on not posting in these threads.

The problem isn't just his negativity. The problems are that he posts blatantly incorrect information and he essentially calls out the entire forum by blaming us for misleading him when he can't get girls in an easy place like Cusco.
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I'm an average looking white guy and had much success in Lima for 2 weeks or so and a few bangs in 3-4 days in Cusco while doing touristy stuff (thanks to some top notch advice from forum member drix). I'd find it hard to believe anyone having a hard time in either cities. The only thing I found better about Colombia is the quality of women in general.

I think theres something Australia Sucks is leaving out? Is he an Indian guy or Asian? Hard to judge someones honest experience when they are leaving out critical details.
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(08-06-2017 06:05 PM)Shimmy Wrote:  I think theres something Australia Sucks is leaving out? Is he an Indian guy or Asian?

just take what he says with a grain of salt.
because not all of Australia sucks neither does peru and neither does medellin.
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RE: Debauchery in Lima, Peru. Trip report 2017
Razors Edge and Shimmy and all the other guys who feel the same way, read what Mixx says on the first page of this thread
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-5008....light=Lima

Back in 2011 the venerable Mixx (he does not post on Rooshv anymore but had 108 rep points) basically said that he would not recommend Lima for non-whites and he said he struggled there. If you do not respect my opinion that is fine, but at least consider what guys like Mixx and Robert Plant are saying.

Here is a quote from Mixx "Peruvians are racist to anyone who does not look white."

Another quote from Mixx "I challenge any Peruvian national to challenge or discredit my post!! They are closet racists against brown/black skin and deny it like cowards."

He also said "I could not get out if Peru fast enough!"

Mixx was generally acknowledged to be one of the top players on the forum.

In the same thread a poster named Arado with 15 rep points said this:
"Same exact shit happened to me on the Peruvian Ecuadorian border. They detained me and were asking for thousands of dollars in bribes thinking that my passport was fake and I was an Al Qaeda terrorist. Eventually they let me go...but I didn't get close to as much love from the girls as a gringo would."

Also in the same thread a few other posters agreed with Mixx and Arado about the racism in Peru.

Anyway I slipped up previously by getting an itchy trigger figure and posting a short comment in agreement with Robert Plant when I said I would not post about Peru, but I am now done arguing and will let you guys get back to your mutual appreciation society.
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Whatever Mixx said doesn't change the fact that you've posted a lot of incorrect information. Don't try to change the subject.

Also, you just argued against your own point. You've said (multiple times) that this forum misled you about Peru but you just posted a quote from Mixx that explains why Peru isn't an ideal place for you. Mixx is not the only one who has said this on this forum. If the forum told you that Peru isn't an ideal place for you then how can you claim that the forum misled you and blame the forum for your failures?

And you try to blame your failures in Cusco on Peruvian racism but Cusco is like the tourist capital of Latin America with girls from all over the world. The hostel bars and the two biggest night clubs have more foreign girls than Peruvians.

You have precisely 0% chance of winning this argument. You've already been called out by a several highly respected guys. I've already given you other reasons via PM regarding why you should just get out of these threads. You've already said you would stay out of these threads. Let it go.
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Australia sucks, so you mean Peru is fine for white guys, and maybe even good for guys with Northern European looks?
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Peru is not an easy country by any means. Someone in another thread somewhere not long ago said Peru was a desperation country on par with some southeast asian countries. The only way it's a desperation country, is if you're a desperate guy going after equally desperate (and unattractive) women. Which there are plenty of. And that's why you see heaps of gringos in Peru with girls that just make you shake your head.

And I want to back Birthday Cat up on this. He's right. The rod that cracks Peru is time which a lot of guys don't have. When you meet a girl in Peru, whether it's online, in the street, or in a club, you get put through a mini interrogation. By default the very first question they will all, whether she's a 5 or a 10, ask you guaranteed almost instantly is "how long are you here?". Shortly followed by "vacaciones o trabajo?". Vacation or work. Honestly it's like an automated response that makes you just want to roll your eyes after awhile. Day game numbers for instance. If they get a whiff you're not sticking around for long enough, there's a good chance you won't hear back. Or she'll flake. And unless you live literally within spitting distance of a disco, bringing a girl back the same night is no easy feat either. If you're a man looking to come to Peru just for high quality girls and don't have the time; I truly would not recommend it. You would be disappointed. But if you're happy banging tinder girls that's a different story and wouldn't personally recommend it though it is a great fall back to have.

You're dealing with women who in their country womanizing, and cheating is off the walls rampant causing them to be very hesitant and on guard. Gals in Peru are jaded as hell. You think families in the anglo world are fucked? South America is even worse. Despite the two timing and sleeping around, it's still an extremely transacational relationship between men and women. And if you want the quality real good looking women, they are going to make you invest your time and chase. The lower the quality the more they're going to want to catch a gringo just passing through for a fleeting moment of adventure while they can. If you're short on time, fire up the ole' tinder, pipeline and have fun. You'll get laid for sure. If you have decent looks and game you'll probably rack up some serious notches from tinder girls. But the women on tinder in Peru come with serious baggage compared to girls you'll meet through day game or night game. Still fairly nice and pleasant girls to keep you company for a short awhile, but nothing more. And in my own opinion while good looking ones can still be found on Tinder, they are few and far between. Lots of tinder chicks speak english too and have spent time overseas vs. day or night game girls who havne't. Tinderellas in Peru are their own breed. I'm sure there's a reason for this.

I've been going to Peru on and off for the last few years and really I think the girls are sweethearts. (Beta?tard). I haven't been to Colombia yet where I heard you're twisting your neck checking out all of the girls. Peru isn't quite like that; but there are still lots of good looking girls. And of course I'm generalizing but for the most part they're low maintenance. They're fairly happy go lucky girls who dress nice and who when not working, lead pretty colorless lives of watching movies, telanovelas, sitting in traffic, family time, and going to discos. They're as music loving as the birds with pleasant demeanors and no real strong political opinions that forces them into convulsions if they disagree with you which is always refreshing.

The racism thing, unfortunately that is real. And that road goes both ways for men and women. Just to give an anecdotal story; I was seeing a girl once who told me how she was put on a blind date. The guy comes in sees her, and to her face says "perdoname, but you're to dark for me" and just walks out. Real pretty and nice girl and she wasn't even that dark skinned by any means. It left me scratching my head how a man could pass her up like that. Or like when the discos at Larcomar were still around it was common to hear decent looking girls who weren't "pituca" (high social class) enough complaining about being face controlled by security. It's an unfortunate fact of life in Peru and all of South America for real deep reasons that go back centuries.

Peru is an interesting country with a unique history. Honestly, I miss it when I'm not there. Lots to see and do. Real colorful, vibrant, chaotic, mysterious, a tad backwards, and all with a nice dash of danger. The food is bloody amazing and music awakens the spirit. One can read all they want about these places, but only way to know for sure if it jives with your personality and character is to go and find out. Adventure is just a romantic name for trouble.

@AS, if Peru ain't your thing, it ain't your thing. There still will always be Chile. Confused

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I agree not having enough time hurt me in Peru and I was focused on quality more than quantity. For example I met a very intelligent, sweet and hot university girl for coffee. Things went well but I only had three days at that point and she was busy all three days/ nights. I did have a one night stand with an older but very hot white Peruana (from night game) and she still texts me over a year later.

If you go to any place for a week or less, you can sometimes get unlucky. Even guys that go to the Philippines have short dry spells sometimes.
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(08-07-2017 12:25 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  Back in 2011 ...

Here is a quote from ...

Another quote from Mixx ...

He also said...

Also in the same thread a few other posters agreed with ...

Anyway I slipped up previously by getting an itchy trigger.... but I am now done arguing and will let you guys get back to your mutual appreciation society.

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I'm on day 3 here in Lima and feeling like the biggest loser in the world. I'm white, early 40's semi-athletic Having horrible luck so far even getting a second look. No bites on Tinder...

I have no problem with pay to play and not getting anywhere there either. Tried using some Backpage type sites down here but no responses there yet either.

How that is possible in a city with 8 million people and prostitution is legal is beyond me but yeah thats the kind of luck I have lol

I'm dyin here If i go back home without hooking up with a college cutie here I'm jumping off a bridge lol.

What do I need to do step up my daygame at Kennedy park? I know where that is I'm staying near there.

What about night clubs later in the week when they're open? An option? What about surveying in Lince where the college is?
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(01-23-2019 10:39 AM)TheTruthHurts99 Wrote:  I'm dyin here If i go back home without hooking up with a college cutie here I'm jumping off a bridge lol.

The closest bridge is down on the malecon by parque de amor. But they put plexiglass up awhile back to try and stop suicides. But, where there's a will there's a way I'm sure.tard

It's only been 3 days. Girls in Peru ain't gonna just fly at your dick with their legs spread like a magnet solely because you're a gringo.

*Edit- this ain't a pay for play forum either.

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(01-23-2019 10:39 AM)TheTruthHurts99 Wrote:  I'm on day 3 here in Lima and feeling like the biggest loser in the world. I'm white, early 40's semi-athletic Having horrible luck so far even getting a second look. No bites on Tinder...

My experience with Tinder is that it will take about a week for your profile to heat up in a new place and start getting bites. Have to give time for the app to show your profile to people and for girls to log on which many of them do infrequently. If after a week or so you're not having luck still, then for whatever reason online game in that country/location isn't going to work well for you.

Go out, have a good time, and try some night game in the mean time. Forget this p4p nonsense.
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(01-30-2017 04:51 AM)Schlep Wrote:  Advice for online dating in Peru. I sent all my messages in spanish using Google translate. They could tell that my spanish was horrible but they didn't mind. If they like you then they will do what they can to communicate with you. After acouple messages ask for their whatsapp number. Most of the women can text in English but, have difficulty understanding you when you speak. I went on many dates where we would hardly talk at all. Honestly, it was great.

If you guys have any questions feel free to send a pm. I'll probably be returning in the near future.

Did you use a smartphone translators to communicate with your girls?

Why did you chose Peru over other Latin American countries?

Why did you change your name from Debauchery to Schlep?

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(01-23-2019 10:39 AM)TheTruthHurts99 Wrote:  What do I need to do step up my daygame at Kennedy park? I know where that is I'm staying near there.

Shoot me a PM and let's meet up at Parque Kennedy. I'll give you some pointers.

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"White, American
44 years old
6'1" 170 lbs.
Average looks" ...

It seems that Papi Rico has right, "average looks" must be an humble estimation. Otherwise, it is hard to explain quite contradictive feedback. I mean, here Schlep did very well, even without time factor disturbing much (first flag on the same day); on the other side, members "Spectrumwalker" and "TheTruthHurts99" did not do well at all, according to their posts. Somewhere must be hidden some crucial differences, in the looks or in the game?, or what do I know..
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Don't know how you interpreted it that way. Been coming here for 5 years now. Surely it can't be that bad. My first year here I did have pretty poor results, ain't gonna lie. What I'm saying is that Peru is only a pussy paradise for gringos if they want to bang ugly ass hoes that they wouldn't want to be seen in public with. Peru takes time to crack into if you want the good stuff. But what annoys me is guys land here with high expectations after reading things like "perus so easy!" "Peru's a white boys paradise!" and then get so dissapointed when they don't have hot girls begging for their gringo dick like they're gods and have to settle for banging 3s and 4s off Tinder or ghetto girls who just want to be seen in front of other ghetto girls with a gringo to make themselves feel special. This country takes work. And just like with anything sometimes, work for a lot of guys is asking to much.

But Peruvian girls are awesome. Gene pool ain't that large though. Walking around you get constant glimpses of women you've been with and have to take a lot of double takes. Which can be weird. Or make you paranoid if you're juggling girls. Fuck that.

If you want quality in Peru it sure as hell ain't gonna from online. Tinder had it's day here. I'm sure there's still gems to be found here and there. But for the most part Gotta hit thhe streets or discos. Even then, Peruvians are super appearance conscience, and when most people hang out in Miraflores or Barranco where's there's high risk of running into someone you or they know, the girls know they run they risk of getting judged as a gringo chaser. I.e. a huge slut and ontop of that already knowing you're a dangerous bet as you can just bounce at any time. So just collect phone numbers, don't be to much of an assclown and whatever happens happens.

But If you want quantity and baggage laden women and don't care, by all means tinder or Latincupid it up. Then it could be a pussy paradise I suppose.

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(01-23-2019 10:39 AM)TheTruthHurts99 Wrote:  early 40's

What age range are you targeting? The only way you're getting with early 20s gals at your age is if you're ridiculously good looking or sugar daddying or they're gold diggers. Not tryin to throw shade, that's just the way it is.

I'm mid-30s and usually target mid-late 20s and the age gap is acceptable enough to where they don't mind it much in LatAm or anywhere really. But a 20 yr age gap is hard to overcome with just pure game, pretty much everywhere these days.

Yeah, the truth hurts.

Pussy ain't for pussies...
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"Don't know how you interpreted it that way. Been coming here for 5 years now. Surely it can't be that bad. ... etc. "

Thank You for analyzing these aspects, for me it is almost always interesting to read, when someone describes his approach and his particular estimation of the "market" in a specific country.

Some kind of a logic says that, if in Peru is the racism quite widespread, should the "white god factor" also be well functioning..., but yeah, the things are unfortunately not so easy (anymore) as You pointed out.
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I am good friend with most of the posters in this thread and i can say that all of them are getting good quality in Peru.

My Bro(Spectrumwalker) summarized really well the context here. The white god factor is quiet high, But the gringos chasers are your typically 3 to 6s. You can find these girls in trashy touristy bars, hostels or online dating apps.

The reality is that there are not many girls who are in the 7+, so the really hot girls are usually middle high to high class girls who have options with handsome white rich peruanos, so they don’t care about your foreigner status. If you want to access to the quality, you will have to put effort in your looks and game to do some daygame near private universities, Miraflores or hit the mainstream bars or clubes.

Despite of my words, I think Peru is a good start for any white newbie who wants to hit LATAM for the first time, you can gain some confidente by banging some girls, practice daygame, eat world class food, enjoy the tourist spots, doing natural trips, peruanas will treat you well and learning spanish.

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I don't know a lot about Lima but in big second tier cities in Peru it can feel much smaller than you would expect. It's because of the division of neighborhoods and the way people go out, partly due to public transportation and logistical issues. For upper class people living on one side of the city, the other side might as well be a different country. They don't go there, only very rarely. So people go to the same bars and clubs.. ones located near them. Everyone frequents the same hot spots and that's it. You will run into people. My guess is Lima might be similar.

Tinder is fine, and you'll find all kinds of girls on there. Sluts as well as traditional. I never understood the "good" girls don't go on Tinder mindset. Half of the people I meet legit I am one of the first people they've ever met up with from there and they only got on because their friends convinced them to try it. One girl I met and formed a relationship with took something like 4 or 5 dates. Most people won't have the patience. I am white, going for girls 20-25 and am in my late 20's. The age thing may change things if you're over 30.

All that being said, the hottest girl I banged in Peru was a 20 year old via night game in a small local club when I had a lot of social proof, ie. out with my peruvian friends and chilling with the band performing.

I also agree it takes time in Peru. Not a place you want to roll up for a week or two. You need to immerse yourself in the culture and spend some time here to get to know the place.
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RE: Debauchery in Lima, Peru. Trip report 2017
I still like my trashy touristy bars tard

Dreams are like horses; they run wild on the earth. Catch one and ride it. Throw a leg over and ride it for all its worth.
Psalm 25:7
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