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Feeling unable to connect with society after self improvement/redpill/politics
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RE: Feeling unable to connect with society after self improvement/redpill/politics
I feel you, especially when it comes to the main "circus" of the West, sports. I understand the role sports play in society but people these days are taking this shit to uncomfortable levels.

No one is saying to stop watching but when people obsess over it like it is their life and start talking stats, it drives me crazy. I have to sit there like a mute for 15 mins while friends yammer on about how they wish they could jerk off their favorite sports star haha. ( not actually, but if they were given a chance, they probably would)
05-09-2017 12:16 AM
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RE: Feeling unable to connect with society after self improvement/redpill/politics
To OP.
I'm not in too dissimilar a situation to you (as in finding people that are inspiring to talk to / socialize with / interesting to relate to).
Yet I'm naturally the aloof, lonewolf type, so I get by without much concern. Plus I have enough social outlets to satisfy myself at the moment.

However, when you are above average, it just may be that you'll always be in the minority.

Quote Voxday :

Quote:The exchange with the primate psychologist reminds me a little of my mostly failed attempt to explain the IQ delta between very high intelligence and ultra high intelligence to people who are essentially limited to the smart-normal-dumb spectrum. The talking lion can't speak meaningfully about the experience of dumb lions. The UHIQ can't speak any more meaningfully about the experience of midwits than the midwit can describe what it is like to have an IQ of 50.

It shouldn't be hard to grasp the concept that different minds process information differently, and yet, the guy who firmly believes he's wicked smart because he had a 105 IQ in a classroom full of sub-95 IQs quite often assumes the guy with a 140 IQ must be stupid because he can't understand him.

To quote my old sensei, mind the gap.

http://voxday.blogspot.com.au/2017/05/bi...nkers.html
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05-09-2017 12:24 AM
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RE: Feeling unable to connect with society after self improvement/redpill/politics
If you put aside the elitist perspective, you might find great pleasure in studying and/or taking part in everyday life and "everyday people" so to speak. No one is perfect and we are no better.
That said, I commend your ambition and your desire to go out and see the world. Traveling is a very enrichening experience and one effect it has on many people is to confirm and even negate their prejudices on their own culture but also appreciate the positive aspects of it too.

We move between light and shadow, mutually influencing and being influenced through shades of gray...
05-09-2017 12:44 AM
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(05-09-2017 12:05 AM)The Catalyst Wrote:  I do feel Aus is almost certainly significantly better than NZ but if I am going to be taking the plunge I might as well go straight to Europe(likely EE) or Asia or SA or perhaps even the US if possible.

Yeah it's worth checking out.

I felt 'at home' in Europe when I first went over in 2010. My father was born and raised in England, my mother Australia but her family has ancestral ties to Germany. I've been back multiple times, spending the majority of my time in the east and while that region may struggle economically compared to the west it makes up for it in genuine social interaction (and women).

The west is great for making money, and the east for enjoying it. If your able to strike the balance between that, you're golden.
05-09-2017 12:54 AM
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Goes both ways as well.
05-09-2017 01:16 AM
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If you want to work in a professional career and can't speak a foreign language then a first-world Commonwealth country or the US is your best bet.
05-09-2017 02:37 PM
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RE: Feeling unable to connect with society after self improvement/redpill/politics
To the OP, I've always been detached from society. The only people I know who are red-pilled is my older brother who told me about this and my roommate.

Politics is toxic no matter where you lean in this day and age. My local newspaper kept spouting out the "Trump is Russia's bitch" rhetoric and my friends think he's the reincarnation of Hitler and always have to talk about him and how Republicans are evil but never talk about how Hilary sabotaged their lord and savior Bernie from winning the primaries. Most of my Facebook posts consisted of how much they hated Obama or how Republicans are all a bunch of Nazis or an Occupy Democrats BS post. These people have lived in Democratic run areas their whole life. It's worst with my guy friends, that's all they talk about and they play Magic cards (they're in their 30's). Ok, I get it, you hate the other side with a passion, move on. I have my issues, but you don't see me complaining about it on Facebook because those types of posts can be used against me and someone might not hire me because of that.

The political forums and blogs I used to read had extreme partisans whose views match those who'd love throwing people in gas chambers if they got the chance and are status quo supporters with hard-ons for the death of their opposing political parties.

Red-pill thinking also told me I had to rely on myself to improve myself and can't let anyone do it for me.

I'm also going more to find a social club which would rely on me using bikes as I love to bike. Sometimes, music calms me or playing with my relatives dogs' keeps me happy.
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05-09-2017 10:43 PM
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I find that living in China makes all of this easier. Not that China itself is strictly redpill, but it's easy to avoid associating with people who will be "offended" if I speak the truth. I can surround myself with quality male friends who might not agree with me on all points, but are smart enough not to be of the "you can't say that, it's 2017" persuasion.
05-09-2017 10:49 PM
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As others have pointed out, this is a phase. It might be a long one, but you can control what direction this phase takes, as well as how you handle it.

Usually, like minded company helps to lift your spirits and morale - especially when you see the world for what it truly is. These don't have to be "Red-Pilled" people - just individuals and groups who are willing to call it as they see it. Far more of those people are around then we lead ourselves to believe. Often, they just need someone else whose bold to lead the charge so to speak.

You'll be shocked by what people actually think. If you flush it out of them, they will begin to speak more and with decreasing amounts of fear.

I highly advise getting involved in groups that are more social in function. Volleyball leagues, church or bar softball teams, even a group of guys who get together and play cards or games. I highly recommend the latter. You need to find places and people to be yourself with or you will feel like you are going crazy.

"Be a leader and never ever follow" That's what my father, that's what he always told me. So with those words boldly spoken, he sent me down a long and hard road.

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05-10-2017 03:06 PM
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RE: Feeling unable to connect with society after self improvement/redpill/politics
To add to everyone else's gym suggestion: go to one with all the big, "judgmental-looking" men. Women don't go to those gyms. You don't need a gym with women in it.
08-21-2017 04:47 PM
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