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Amy Barrett? Do we really want to trust a woman?

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Jeff Flake and John McCain (Republicans in name only) could be very, very dangerous for Trump's appointment plans.

If they both abstain, the VP could break the 49-49 tie. If they both vote against, it's a rejection of the appointment.

It's concerning for sure. McCain in particular seems to want to spend his dying breath lashing out at Trump.
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(06-28-2018 08:20 AM)Hypno Wrote:  He can’t create new courts without legislation but he could probably appoint 100 new judges to the southern district of NY for example. That’s basically what FDR did, but for the Supreme Court

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_switch...saved_nine

The example you cite was itself a legislative proposal. It says so in that Wikipedia article you linked.

What Trump could "probably" do is dependent on existing statutory language regarding the federal courts, and on the prospect of changing it through Congress.
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(06-28-2018 09:34 AM)Hypno Wrote:  DOJ has the power to investigate a judge

They can make public their findings

For example Rhein quits was on medication that caused him to see and hear a hints other people didn’t see or hear. DOJ could investigate RBG health or connections to Russia and publish, which might result in legislation or impeachment. Not saying that she has done anything worthy of investigation or impeachment, just that the President has that power. The limits you state are accurate but Trump like FDR might act unconventionally

They have to have probable cause to investigate her to begin with, otherwise that is a violation of the 4th Amendment. No DOJ (especially today's) is going to bother looking at her, unless they get a referral of some sort. At that point of the matter, that is on congress to address not Trump. The president has no powers to affect any standing judge, period. Once they are sworn in, that is it. Done. Till death. Only congress can remove them, then the president appoint a new candidate. That's it.

Court packing is a throwback to a different time. It likely would not be tolerated in America today. Trump has enough problems, this would make stuff 100 times worse. This was one of the downsides of FDR and how they passed an amendment to limit presidential terms to 2, like George Washington recommended, because he went too far. My personal view, if Trump tried that, an amendment would likely get bipartisan support and be very swift. Just because an exploit hole is still present, does not mean it is wise to use it.

(06-28-2018 09:37 AM)Hypno Wrote:  Travelerkai you should reset the history of FDRs relationship with the SCt. It’s a major exception to your view of history.

See above.

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Keep fawning,
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Alex Jones for Supreme Court. This place is Infowars 2.0
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STOP THE NWO lol
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(06-28-2018 12:29 PM)DannyAlberta Wrote:  Jeff Flake and John McCain (Republicans in name only) could be very, very dangerous for Trump's appointment plans.

If they both abstain, the VP could break the 49-49 tie. If they both vote against, it's a rejection of the appointment.

It's concerning for sure. McCain in particular seems to want to spend his dying breath lashing out at Trump.

He'll soon be dead, so it makes little difference
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Actually, someone will replace him. But with the passage of time, it looks increasingly likely that the Republican governor of Arizona can appoint a replacement rather than open his seat up to a special election.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/201...-seat.html
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What are you two talking about? John McCain is not in ICU or some near death state. He will be around to stir shit up for as long as anyone's guess. He has 4 more years to embarrass himself and the idiotic people of Arizona and it will take him drooling and falling over his podium for replacement/removal talks to even be considered.

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McCain has terminal brain cancer. No one expects him to finish his term. The fear was that if he resigned before the primary at the end of August a communist might take his seat. Many expected him to step down on July 4. There was speculation that the Governor would appoint his wife to replace him.

Unrelated to McCain, there is a good editorial in the WSJ today about the court. If you don’t know what a penumbra is in the context of the Supreme Court then you should read this, it’s a term you will hear often in connection with the confirmation of Kennedy’s replacement because a penumbra is the shaky foundation for much of left wing “rights” in this country. The left knows the foundation is invisible and that is why Kennedy’s replacement heralds a sea change
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He isn't going to step down. They would have to drag his carcass out of the capitol. Anyone that knows anything about John knows how obstinate he is. Stubborn does not even begin to describe how he is as a person. He also has Trump Derangement Syndrome.

I think our best bet is November. They can stall the court appointee all they want with process blocking and filibusters of votes that precede hearings on judicial nominees all they want. After November it will not work.

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(07-05-2018 07:38 AM)Hypno Wrote:  McCain has terminal brain cancer. No one expects him to finish his term. The fear was that if he resigned before the primary at the end of August a communist might take his seat. Many expected him to step down on July 4. There was speculation that the Governor would appoint his wife to replace him.

Unrelated to McCain, there is a good editorial in the WSJ today about the court. If you don’t know what a penumbra is in the context of the Supreme Court then you should read this, it’s a term you will hear often in connection with the confirmation of Kennedy’s replacement because a penumbra is the shaky foundation for much of left wing “rights” in this country. The left knows the foundation is invisible and that is why Kennedy’s replacement heralds a sea change

Even McCain I think won't block someone like Kavanaugh. Official Republican people like him (NR endorsement). Ann Coulter likes him too so I'm giving a pass on the former.

Plus as I mentioned in the other thread Barrett has 2 adopted Haitian kids. She could be a wild card on immigration issues.
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Excellent, not picking a woman (which would be a disaster, don't care how "conservative" she is.)
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(07-05-2018 12:25 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  Excellent, not picking a woman (which would be a disaster, don't care how "conservative" she is.)

Well don't let your guard down yet. There are two more possible judges that could be filled later on, so we could still see one of them.

What I do not want to see is like for like replacements. Such as, a guy steps down, a guy put in, a woman steps down, another woman put in her place. Fuck all that. Put the right man in, regardless. If Clarence steps down, don't go find whatever black man you can find like some bullshit affirmative action hire. If you know anything about Clarence, he would hate Trump to death for doing that.

If one of those women steps down, the press is going to furiously rage out and howl to death for another liberal woman. Many will settle for and hold their breath for a conservative in lambskin woman. Trump should put another man in there white or not, and refuse to budge even an inch on that.

A court stacked with men will go a long way towards key issues not subverting the country deeper than it already has.

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You may be right but yours is not a mainstream view. Major outlets wrote articles expecting him to step down on July 4. The importance of Kennedy’s replacement to Trumps legacy, and McCains animosity towards Trump and conservative values, might have affected his expected decision to step down

I don’t have a personal view on McCain’s intentions
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(07-05-2018 01:33 PM)Hypno Wrote:  @ TravelerKai

You may be right but yours is not a mainstream view. Major outlets wrote articles expecting him to step down on July 4. The importance of Kennedy’s replacement to Trumps legacy, and McCains animosity towards Trump and conservative values, might have affected his expected decision to step down

I don’t have a personal view on McCain’s intentions

I did not see any news articles on this before or today when I saw your post and did a quick google check. If you have some proof of his failing health provide a link.

If he was intending to resign, he would very likely hold a presser and make a formal statement with the date he would be stepping down. He is not really the surprise type of person. He's 80. In some ways that is one of the ways we can easily track or monitor him. He's fairly consistent in his behavior by now.

If he had to suddenly step down, it means his health is extremely bad, even for him.

Last article I saw recently says he is in physical therapy:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...749657002/

July 1 is the date of the article. That is 4 days ago.

Does someone in PT, sound critically ill to you? Not to me. You usually do not get put in PT unless your surgery or treatments were successful.

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(07-05-2018 03:57 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(07-05-2018 01:33 PM)Hypno Wrote:  @ TravelerKai

You may be right but yours is not a mainstream view. Major outlets wrote articles expecting him to step down on July 4. The importance of Kennedy’s replacement to Trumps legacy, and McCains animosity towards Trump and conservative values, might have affected his expected decision to step down

I don’t have a personal view on McCain’s intentions

I did not see any news articles on this before or today when I saw your post and did a quick google check. If you have some proof of his failing health provide a link.

If he was intending to resign, he would very likely hold a presser and make a formal statement with the date he would be stepping down. He is not really the surprise type of person. He's 80. In some ways that is one of the ways we can easily track or monitor him. He's fairly consistent in his behavior by now.

If he had to suddenly step down, it means his health is extremely bad, even for him.

Last article I saw recently says he is in physical therapy:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...749657002/

July 1 is the date of the article. That is 4 days ago.

Does someone in PT, sound critically ill to you? Not to me. You usually do not get put in PT unless your surgery or treatments were successful.

Average life expectancy of someone with his type of brain tumor: 12-15 months. Ted Kennedy, who died of the exact same type of tumor, lasted 15 months.

McCain diagnosed July 2017. And he's 80, so i'm going to assume he can't be expected to materially beat the averages. He'll be dead by the fall. Sorry if that seems cold. It's based n the medical situation, not what i'd like to see.
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McCain ranks up there with Kissinger and Rothschild regarding old swine that aren't long for this world. When he goes I'll dance in the streets like I did when Rockefeller departed.

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"John McCain To Resign Senate Seat on the 4th of July, Says Aide. Cindy McCain Offered his Seat
Former Republican Nominee for President wants to avoid a defeat for Trump's SCOTUS nominee"

http://www.smobserved.com/story/2018/07/.../3517.html

Obviously that didn't happen but there are numerous articles that expect him to resign his senate seat. He has terminal cancer, but we don't know when his 12-15 month clock started.
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Breitbart Wrote:Judge Raymond Kethledge, by some reports now the frontrunner for President Donald Trump’s next Supreme Court nomination, has a record that shows weakness on immigration.

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(07-06-2018 05:22 AM)Hypno Wrote:  "He has terminal cancer, but we don't know when his 12-15 month clock started.

He was diagnosed in July 2017. People with this type of cancer usually have 12-15 months from when they were diagnosed. Assume he croaks in 3 months, give or take.
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