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(10-03-2019 04:58 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(10-02-2019 10:13 PM)Jacob Rast Wrote:  There's some correlation with immigration driving up rents in affluent areas. And reliance on immigrant labor in some industries means that companies have no need to invest in homegrown labor to meet their needs. I wonder what blue collar work or IT would look like with zero illegal or legal immigration, it would be interesting to see whether or not Americans would be able to meet demand.

But that's not the entirety of the problem. There's no correlation between immigration and the student debt crisis. Just like there's no correlation between immigration and the healthcare or mental health crises. The 70% figure you mentioned is fake news, it appeared on a ton of right wing sites all on the same day coincidentally. In reality immigrants consume about 27% less benefits than native citizens do. At the end of the day, though, it's a moot discussion. Second generation immigrants are absolutely not going anywhere and are legally American citizens. Taking action against them would set off a shit storm of epic proportions. It's possible to tamp down new immigration, but even that would basically get smothered by both the left and the right.

Some guys talk about how a civil war would set things right. Those guys are delusional. A civil war would create a global collapse. The immigrant heavy 2010's would be seen as a golden age of peace and prosperity in comparison. They also don't account for the very real possibility of them trying to start a civil war, failing, then get curb stomped by the feds. You think getting deplatformed is bad? If the hardline rightwingers start acting up for real, and fail to make any headway, the feds will kick their teeth in. As in getting your door battered down and FBI questioning for even posting on this site. Guys like Roosh or Andrew Anglin would get sent to Guantanamo in a situation like that.

Immigration, legal and illegal, are driving up COL in every single facet. Being that 70% of LEGAL immigrants are on welfare and 100% of illegal immigrants are on welfare, they are skyrocketing the COL. Not just rent, yes rent has exploded beyond any rational means, but also all other commodities have gone up on price along with it.

Add to it, wages have stagnated over the last 4 decades due to immigration. Now mom and dad both with college degrees have to work like slaves to keep a roof over their head and their kids fed. It is beyond a disaster.

The cause of healthcare cost explosion is largely due to illegal immigrants using services and never paying for them, so they have to ratchet up the costs on the rest of us. Add in the LEGAL immigrants flooding the system causing more demand for the same supply and many of the LEGAL immigrants are on some form of "free" healthcare. The #1 cause of healthcare cost explosion by a long shot is immigration.

I'm not talking about kicking out legal citizens. The first step is to cut off all immigration and kick out illegal immigrants. After that we can probably stay with 0 immigration and pass laws to encourage only tax paying citizens to have children and try to stop welfare citizens from having children. If we don't, then a shitstorm will happen that will make anything you mentioned look like a cake walk. Something has to be done because we can't continue to borrow $1,000,000,000,000 a year while working our people like slaves and throwing away our kid's futures.

Don't get deluded by right wing fake news. Like I've said earlier, it's a distraction from one of two things -- elites fleecing you blind or there being enormous inefficiencies in the system. These are some of the most commonly attributed reasons for healthcare costs going through the roof:

1) Drug costs -- government doesn't negotiate drug prices with drug makers, so there's no Medicaid discount for anyone.

2) Defensive medicine - Doctors order multiple unnecessary tests to avoid getting sued, which costs everyone more money in terms of how much they need to pay into the system.

3) Specialized medicine in the US is straight up better than in most other places, and is significantly more expensive than general medicine. Everyone pays more into the system to support specialists.

4) There's basically no government oversight into healthcare pricing, so providers can basically run wild without any regulation.

Rents only rise when a city doesn't expand or build affordable housing of any kind. This is the NIMBYism that you see in places like San Francisco, Vancouver, and Seattle. The existing residents (both of the cities and the burbs) don't want to build any more affordable housing as that would drive their home prices down. Similarly the cities either refuse or have a very hard time building affordable housing within city limits. They get a giant influx of white collar immigrants for tech and blue collar (many times illegal) immigrants for manual labor. On top of that they get a ton of internal migration from other parts of the country. So what you get is massive number of peoples in spaces that are unwilling or unable to create more housing.

I agree that immigration should be reformed and tamped down. But it's not the root cause of all of our issues. The reality is that we have massive system inefficiencies and a political process that enables predatory capitalism. Which of course isn't to say that socialism is the answer, just that these inefficiencies and corruption need to be addressed.

Going back to the premise of this thread, Trump doing things like trying to build affordable housing in Seattle/SF or simplify healthcare ("socialistic" things) would have put him in a much better position. A lot of people on the left would have been thinking "oh, maybe he is right about some things". Which is much more important than pandering to his base. The only way for the GOP to democratically control America would be to reach across the aisle to an extent. Not on fringe issues like trans people in the military or complete gun control, but actual improvements that would win over moderates and liberals.
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Of course elites are fleecing us blind. They are doing it by flooding our country with welfare recipients that are voting away the freedoms our ancestors fought, bleed and died for.

All the healthcare costs are simply two things....

Supply and demand. Demand goes up and immigration goes up. Supply remains the same.

And

Healthcare industry paying off crooked politicians to keep fleecing the people and the politicians remain in office by paying welfare recipients to vote for them.

Rent is going up because the USA is vastly over-populated. We don't need to kill off more animals and tear up more farm ground so more people can flood into the country and live off welfare. We have too many people as it is and with technology we will have an even bigger abundance of people.

I agree there are some things Trump could do to help the people and win over Democrat voters. But it seems Trump's only purpose in office is to harass the Chinese nationalist govt. so the international bankers can completely control it and post totally awesome memes on twitter. The guy has been nearly useless to his base or the American people in general, politically speaking.
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(10-03-2019 11:09 AM)Jacob Rast Wrote:  Don't get deluded by right wing fake news. Like I've said earlier, it's a distraction from one of two things -- elites fleecing you blind or there being enormous inefficiencies in the system. These are some of the most commonly attributed reasons for healthcare costs going through the roof:

1) Drug costs -- government doesn't negotiate drug prices with drug makers, so there's no Medicaid discount for anyone.

2) Defensive medicine - Doctors order multiple unnecessary tests to avoid getting sued, which costs everyone more money in terms of how much they need to pay into the system.

3) Specialized medicine in the US is straight up better than in most other places, and is significantly more expensive than general medicine. Everyone pays more into the system to support specialists.

4) There's basically no government oversight into healthcare pricing, so providers can basically run wild without any regulation.

Rents only rise when a city doesn't expand or build affordable housing of any kind. This is the NIMBYism that you see in places like San Francisco, Vancouver, and Seattle. The existing residents (both of the cities and the burbs) don't want to build any more affordable housing as that would drive their home prices down. Similarly the cities either refuse or have a very hard time building affordable housing within city limits. They get a giant influx of white collar immigrants for tech and blue collar (many times illegal) immigrants for manual labor. On top of that they get a ton of internal migration from other parts of the country. So what you get is massive number of peoples in spaces that are unwilling or unable to create more housing.

I agree that immigration should be reformed and tamped down. But it's not the root cause of all of our issues. The reality is that we have massive system inefficiencies and a political process that enables predatory capitalism. Which of course isn't to say that socialism is the answer, just that these inefficiencies and corruption need to be addressed.

Going back to the premise of this thread, Trump doing things like trying to build affordable housing in Seattle/SF or simplify healthcare ("socialistic" things) would have put him in a much better position. A lot of people on the left would have been thinking "oh, maybe he is right about some things". Which is much more important than pandering to his base. The only way for the GOP to democratically control America would be to reach across the aisle to an extent. Not on fringe issues like trans people in the military or complete gun control, but actual improvements that would win over moderates and liberals.

While I agree with you in principle, I can't help but think that this is an argument that only appeals to white (and maybe Asian) moderates and liberals.

When those people are no longer the majority of voters in America one generation from now, your economic arguments aren't going to win elections anymore.

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(10-03-2019 11:35 AM)BlueMark Wrote:  While I agree with you in principle, I can't help but think that this is an argument that only appeals to white (and maybe Asian) moderates and liberals.

When those people are no longer the majority of voters in America one generation from now, your economic arguments aren't going to win elections anymore.

It will be by 2024 or 2028, not even half a generation away.
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(10-03-2019 11:29 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  Of course elites are fleecing us blind. They are doing it by flooding our country with welfare recipients that are voting away the freedoms our ancestors fought, bleed and died for.

All the healthcare costs are simply two things....

Supply and demand. Demand goes up and immigration goes up. Supply remains the same.

And

Healthcare industry paying off crooked politicians to keep fleecing the people and the politicians remain in office by paying welfare recipients to vote for them.

Rent is going up because the USA is vastly over-populated. We don't need to kill off more animals and tear up more farm ground so more people can flood into the country and live off welfare. We have too many people as it is and with technology we will have an even bigger abundance of people.

I agree there are some things Trump could do to help the people and win over Democrat voters. But it seems Trump's only purpose in office is to harass the Chinese nationalist govt. so the international bankers can completely control it and post totally awesome memes on twitter. The guy has been nearly useless to his base or the American people in general, politically speaking.

I'd encourage you to check out some different sources or even visit a high COL area like SF, LA, or Seattle. NIMBYism is off the charts. I was just in Silicon Valley last week for a business conference. Some suburbs out there have an average home price of $2 million. They refuse to build any kind of new or affordable housing as it would degrade their home prices. This happens all over the Bay Area. You see it in white suburbs, Indian suburbs, Asian suburbs, and the mixed diverse suburbs. A guy in Fremont California recently went on a hunger strike to protest a homeless shelter being built there.

These problems are solvable. You don't need to drive anything to extinction to make affluent areas with good job markets more accessible for people. What you need is some level of government regulation to prevent "fuck you, I got mine" type policies that basically squeeze the poor/lower middle classes for every last penny. A mix of rent control, affordable housing, remote work options, and better public transport would fix most of these issues. Immigration contributes to it to an extent, but the problem is much more fixable than some would think. Fundamentally, it just requires people to get their heads out of their asses and think about people other than themselves.

Trump basically just aped leftist tactics. Identity politics for whites instead of minorities, and the same complete lack of actual help or improvement. Banging a drum instead of putting food on tables. Virtue signaling and tribalism don't need to be the end all and be all of politics. I don't agree with everything Andrew Yang says, but he has a problem-solving mentality towards American politics. The GOP could have done this and thereby dominated American politics. They had a good shot at the throne. But instead they cucked out to various elites, both domestic and foreign.

To BlueMark's point, poor minorities suffer from these problems just as much as poor whites do. Crippling student debt or medical costs don't care about your race. Poor is poor is poor. No one wants to be poor, so economic solutions that actually make society more affordable/prevent predatory scams are going to be attractive to everyone.

Advocating for civil war is nihilistic. Destroying the country isn't the only way to solve its problems. In the best case (for Leonard and the other civil war advocates), America turns into a Syria where a bunch of balkanized states eke out a shitty, war torn existence. If the alt right fails (which is likely), everyone ever associated with it is going to get investigated and possibly imprisoned. If a violent IRA type insurgency pops up, the federal response will be brutal.

The thing is, we're not in a state where the American populace can be easily radicalized (even whites). The alt right would be seen as a bunch of incels committing terrorism, not as freedom fighters. Insurgencies of this kind work best in occupation type situations like in Northern Ireland or in Iraq, and even then the federal reaction was vicious. On top of that actual white nationalist/Aryan nations cells are highly infiltrated. Most attempts at kicking off civil war or committing terrorism get stopped by the FBI before they actually happen.
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Well of course people who paid $2,000,000 for a house don't want "affordable" housing built down the street, LOL. They didn't bust their ass in college for 6 years and work their way up the corporate ladder doing exhausting 80 hour weeks in a high stress field all to live in a ghetto.

The Republicans didn't cuck out, they just did what they were told by their masters. They are paid fake opposition to the coming communist regime.

Advocating for civil war is nihilistic, but the solutions are EXTREMELY simply and the people have been screaming for these solutions for years and the elite blackmailed politicians will do nothing. So it will be civil war and then collapse or just a collapse. Either way we end up in the same place.
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^It's not about living in a ghetto. It's about giving teachers, blue collar workers, and lower middle class people a place to stay cheaply. Society shouldn't just cater to the upper middle class and rich. A lot of people basically get imprisoned in the lower middle to low economic class and have a very difficult time moving up. Moving up requires debt and effort that most will not partake in. This is true regardless of race.

The NIMBY people I described were about 50% wealthy tech industry whites and 50% wealthy tech industry minorities. The lack of affordable housing actually fucks over poor whites, blacks and Hispanics as well. They end up paying higher rent due to gentrification. This is happening on a broad scale in the Bay, Seattle, Austin, and NYC, where NIMBYism is at its peak.

We can agree to disagree on the situation being impossible to salvage. From my standpoint these issues are fairly fixable, and political leaders will be rewarded or punished depending on how much they actually do about them.
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(10-03-2019 01:30 PM)Jacob Rast Wrote:  ^It's not about living in a ghetto. It's about giving teachers, blue collar workers, and lower middle class people a place to stay cheaply. Society shouldn't just cater to the upper middle class and rich. A lot of people basically get imprisoned in the lower middle to low economic class and have a very difficult time moving up. Moving up requires debt and effort that most will not partake in. This is true regardless of race.

The NIMBY people I described were about 50% wealthy tech industry whites and 50% wealthy tech industry minorities. The lack of affordable housing actually fucks over poor whites, blacks and Hispanics as well. They end up paying higher rent due to gentrification. This is happening on a broad scale in the Bay, Seattle, Austin, and NYC, where NIMBYism is at its peak.

We can agree to disagree on the situation being impossible to salvage. From my standpoint these issues are fairly fixable, and political leaders will be rewarded or punished depending on how much they actually do about them.

The problem is the immigrant and welfare class have voted to make welfare pay as good as those blue collar jobs so with blue collar workers and teachers you will get the ghetto. It shouldn't be like that but it is becoming that way. Even the middle class burbs are becoming ghetto across the country as more and more opt to move a 2 hour drive from work out in the x-burbs.

It will only get worse from here because the only fix is cutting off immigration and no one is willing to do that.

It is easy to fix but it will not be fixed because the handful of elites want it this way for their own personal benefit.
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What a disaster.

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He’s throwing around terms like “treason” on Twitter, but in three years of treason there hasn’t been a single meaningful consequence for those committing it. The worst that’s happened is letting the person resign and then making six figures on GoFundMe.

We can all see them committing these crimes in front of us, and there doesn’t seem to be any valid reason for why he won’t lift a finger or charge them.

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It was noted years ago by several people on the forum that if he left this business too long then it would appear to the average pundit that he was abusing state power to win re-election for himself. This is why we said that he had to start locking these assholes up long before the 2020 campaign started so that the constant stream of arrests became like expected background noise.

He's screwed now in a lot of ways because he can't take the gloves off without appearing like he wants to circumvent democracy and even if he wins re-election then arrests are going to look like scorched earth policy from a guy afraid of what the next administration is going to do to him after he leaves office.

His base wanted blood in 2016 and for whatever reason he squandered that historic window of opportunity to start slinging shit at the Clinton foundation and then then keep the ball rolling from there. That could have carried him through the mid-terms and well into 2020. It was the easiest layup in the world to find a savage DOJ head and begin tearing into the Clintons then work sideways through the hole crooked DNC party machine.

Why he pussed out is beyond me.

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(10-08-2019 03:56 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  Why he pussed out is beyond me.

I'm still trying to figure out what the Trump fans think he is doing for them. "He bought us time" is the only excuse and no one can prove this to be true because we don't have an alternative time line to compare it to.

It is all too late now, Trump had a few months when he first got into office to do something and he wasted it. It seems like the guy is a very average IQ individual who got rich by playing the elite's game of crooked usury and hung at at WWE events long enough to hear the legit gripes of the working class and ran on their thoughts.
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He's a great salesman and that translated into being a great campaigner. The trouble is that he seemed to enter the Whitehouse with the sense that the people around him were going to behave like his employees did. That is to say he expected them to worship him and compete for who could do the best job in order to win his favor.

He didn't seem to comprehend that most of these people were simply looking to outlast him, not serve him. They knew he would be gone in 4 to 8 years and that their careers were best served by subtly undermining him as a demonstration of loyalty to the deep state rather than going all out to get wins on the board for a guy that would be gone within a decade.

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(10-08-2019 04:38 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  He's a great salesman and that translated into being a great campaigner. The trouble is that he seemed to enter the Whitehouse with the sense that the people around him were going to behave like his employees did. That is to say he expected them to worship him and compete for who could do the best job in order to win his favor.

He didn't seem to comprehend that most of these people were simply looking to outlast him, not serve him. They knew he would be gone in 4 to 8 years and that their careers were best served by subtly undermining him as a demonstration of loyalty to the deep state rather than going all out to get wins on the board for a guy that would be gone within a decade.

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(10-08-2019 04:38 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  He's a great salesman and that translated into being a great campaigner. The trouble is that he seemed to enter the Whitehouse with the sense that the people around him were going to behave like his employees did. That is to say he expected them to worship him and compete for who could do the best job in order to win his favor.

He didn't seem to comprehend that most of these people were simply looking to outlast him, not serve him. They knew he would be gone in 4 to 8 years and that their careers were best served by subtly undermining him as a demonstration of loyalty to the deep state rather than going all out to get wins on the board for a guy that would be gone within a decade.

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95K likes for a guy with only 131K followers. Trump might want to figure out something real fast, I have no idea what he will run on.

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AND to make it worse, at least in the past the nominal tax rate was usually paid in full or almost in full. Today, no one actually pays the nominal tax rate. See Facebook, Amazon, Google, billionaires, etc.

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As little as Trump has accomplished and his beyond embarrassing August 5th speech, maybe the best thing he could do is get kicked out of office rather than lose to a woman in 2020. It would send a strong message to all the boomers and x'ers who think they still live in a 1st world country.

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(10-08-2019 04:58 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  95K likes for a guy with only 131K followers. Trump might want to figure out something real fast, I have no idea what he will run on.


a fancy graph does not a tax point make. The wealthy have also shifted their income to capital gains which are inherently lower tax. Who knows if the graph also includes social security tax, which is more like a pension plan investment than a tax at all.

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(10-08-2019 08:20 AM)Dr. Howard Wrote:  a fancy graph does not a tax point make. The wealthy have also shifted their income to capital gains which are inherently lower tax. Who knows if the graph also includes social security tax, which is more like a pension plan investment than a tax at all.

I appreciate your well thought out response, but my point wasn't to the complete accuracy of the graph. It is more how fed up people are with the "rich" getting a "free ride" in their minds. Whether who is truly "rich" and what a "free ride" might be are very hazy. What we do know is tax cuts for billionaires who ship jobs overseas, flood our towns with 3rd world welfare recipients, and feed us HFCS and opiods is not a popular stance at all. And other than this silly ass tax bill that Trump mistakenly passed he has almost nothing to run on.

TBH, the guy just isn't very bright and the people in DC played him like a fiddle. Win or lose it doesn't matter he doesn't have the brains or fight in him to fix this mess.
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(10-08-2019 04:50 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(10-08-2019 04:38 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  He's a great salesman and that translated into being a great campaigner. The trouble is that he seemed to enter the Whitehouse with the sense that the people around him were going to behave like his employees did. That is to say he expected them to worship him and compete for who could do the best job in order to win his favor.

He didn't seem to comprehend that most of these people were simply looking to outlast him, not serve him. They knew he would be gone in 4 to 8 years and that their careers were best served by subtly undermining him as a demonstration of loyalty to the deep state rather than going all out to get wins on the board for a guy that would be gone within a decade.

Best post regarding Trump over the last three years by a long shot. This is the real red pill.

Not even close.

Trump was bailed out by Rothschild & Co, via Wilbur Ross*, in the 1980s when Trump's Atlantic City casinos were going bankrupt...

He's a Rothschild shill - there was never any plan to build the wall nor help Americans.

The "he can't find loyal people" is just a cope for those that deny he's a Rothschild shill.

*Wilbur Ross is currently the Secretary of Commerce. He was easily confirmed by the Senate - 72-27.
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RE: Complaints of Donald Trump thread
(10-08-2019 12:45 PM)VNvet Wrote:  
(10-08-2019 04:50 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  
(10-08-2019 04:38 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  He's a great salesman and that translated into being a great campaigner. The trouble is that he seemed to enter the Whitehouse with the sense that the people around him were going to behave like his employees did. That is to say he expected them to worship him and compete for who could do the best job in order to win his favor.

He didn't seem to comprehend that most of these people were simply looking to outlast him, not serve him. They knew he would be gone in 4 to 8 years and that their careers were best served by subtly undermining him as a demonstration of loyalty to the deep state rather than going all out to get wins on the board for a guy that would be gone within a decade.

Best post regarding Trump over the last three years by a long shot. This is the real red pill.

Not even close.

Trump was bailed out by Rothschild & Co, via Wilbur Ross*, in the 1980s when Trump's Atlantic City casinos were going bankrupt...

He's a Rothschild shill - there was never any plan to build the wall nor help Americans.

The "he can't find loyal people" is just a cope for those that deny he's a Rothschild shill.

*Wilbur Ross is currently the Secretary of Commerce. He was easily confirmed by the Senate - 72-27.

The dwindling Trump fans claim that "well, at least he bought us time". I'm not even sure if he has done that and there is no way to prove it. Sure Hillary was terrible, but she is controlled by the very same people. Difference is she can't keep the masses asleep while doing the same deeds.
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RE: Complaints of Donald Trump thread
I'm actually impressed at how well the Democrats have played the impeachment process. They have nothing, they know it, and yet they are still able to own the news cycle. They are playing this for the long term and they don't care about 2020. They got Trump hemmed up and he will get nothing done. By 2024, due to Trump getting nothing done, the Democrats will own the country forever forward.

Makes me sick, but it is time to take the red pill and see what is coming. The quicker you do so the better the chances you have at surviving it.
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RE: Complaints of Donald Trump thread
Trump now says that African Americans built America. Are reparations being announced soon?

Anyway, his ass licking didn't seem to help as most AAs in the comments are still against him. "He did all that to say nothing as always. Like we don’t know this country was built on slavery already".

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/...24?lang=en
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(10-09-2019 08:38 AM)Pinkman Wrote:  Trump now says that African Americans built America. Are reparations being announced soon?

Anyway, his ass licking didn't seem to help as most AAs in the comments are still against him. "He did all that to say nothing as always. Like we don’t know this country was built on slavery already".

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/...24?lang=en

A few pages back I posted that new polling shows Trump is supported by less than 20% of African Americans. I suppose this is an attempt to win them over. If we are going to give banks trillions of dollars for running bad businesses might as well give some of our citizens some money and outright try to buy their votes. Trump has done nothing of importance and the country will collapse at the same speed if Hillary or Jeb had been elected. Maybe even quicker.
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