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(08-18-2019 08:45 AM)RawGod Wrote:  The odd thing is I think everyone on the dissident right stopped supporting Trump just after the mid-terms. Not quite sure why that was the timing, in retrospect. The midterms were not a major fail. I think the cognitive dissonance between his tweets and his actions and particularly the Zionism and lack of the wall just built up and then popped.

A lot of the people who know more what is going on started to question Trump from the start with his awful cabinet choices.

A lot of the dissident right stopped supporting Trump in April 2017 with the bombing of Syria.

The midterms when it was realized Trump got nothing done in 2 years with a Republican House, Senate and S.C. and on top of that was talking about increasing legal immigration is when anyone who is paying attention at all dropped off the Trump train.
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This thread is just full of haters who are weak with their cause and effect. They believe Trump is to blame for not 'fixing' things, when in fact all the problems people mention in here were present before Trump and any attempt by his admin to correct things has been met with Congress or the Courts blocking him.

Yes, he's signed off on budget increases, because AFTER THE LARGEST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN IN HISTORY, his traitorous GOP senate members, lead by Romney, revolted against him and threatened to override his veto.

They blame Trump when it is clear Trump is doing all that he can do, short of a starting a civil war. This loser thread should be renamed into, "I'm Angry Trump Didn't Start A Cleansing Civil War of America."

Quote:It's a pill too big and bitter to swallow.

Pride is a powerful weapon when used correctly and most Americans are convinced that the US is so invincible and indisposable that the sun would sooner burn out than set on the American empire, which in fact has always been the Zionist empire, but the easiest way to stymie rebellion is to convince the slaves that they're the ones in charge.

How else but by pride could you convince a peoples to hold as cherished the opposing concepts that all men are created literally equal but Americans are the best and most important people in the world? That two Somalians born in Somalia are shitholians but their son born in America is global royalty.

Pretty funny when you think about it. Most Americans are like a mathematician who assumes an end answer and ignores any deficiency in the calculations as being clearly incorrect. The US will always prevail. The US will always exist. Trillion dollar deficits be damned. Mestizoisation irrelevant. They were raised on a diet of Hollywood dreck where the plucky heroes always win no matter how poor the odds. Hard to blame them really.

This is all true, but none of the above has to do with Trump. Where is the cause and effect? But the insights are good.

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Trump has lots of convenient excuses. I would rather have Trump go down swinging to the fraud GOP congress than just give in and give them their way.

But the real complaints I have with Trump, that he has 100% control over and has completely messed up and refuses to fix are...

#1) No one voted for extreme anti-MAGA Kusher and his wife. Why are they still hired?
#2) Why is his cabinet full of snakes and the MAGA 2016 supporters are tossed aside?
#3) Why is John Bolton there? Why is Pompeo there? They are anti-MAGA.
#4) August 5th, 2019 might have been the most embarrassing speech by a US President in the history of the country.
#5) Why is his DOJ attacking his supporters after they were just defending themselves from Antifa attacks.
#6) Why does the top law officer in the country do nothing about Antifa?
#7) Dick Cheney? Really? Really?

It is getting embarrassing at this point. I can't believe I fell for it, yes he sold it well, but damn.
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Meh. Most of us fell for it. It was nice to feel for just once like a single, solitary leader in the West was going to stand up for the people whose ancestors built the place.

Maybe one day we'll be able to recreate that excitement without the lie behind it. Never say never.

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I think most generations have a Reagan or a JFK or an Obama that they really get excited about but never does anything substantive. Perhaps still having enough idealism to get on board the train at all is a good thing.

Full disclosure - I have a tiny hope that if he wins a second term, Trump will "take the gloves off". It's clear he's a sincere Zionist, though, and has other flaws which will mean that even given more power, he won't do what we want. Still, there is precedent for a president really getting his agenda rolling in the second term.

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(08-18-2019 11:44 PM)RawGod Wrote:  I think most generations have a Reagan or a JFK or an Obama that they really get excited about but never does anything substantive. Perhaps still having enough idealism to get on board the train at all is a good thing.

Full disclosure - I have a tiny hope that if he wins a second term, Trump will "take the gloves off". It's clear he's a sincere Zionist, though, and has other flaws which will mean that even given more power, he won't do what we want. Still, there is precedent for a president really getting his agenda rolling in the second term.

Unfortunately, since he has decided to surround himself with the likes of Pompeo, Bolton and Cheney, I think the "gloves coming off" means war with Iran.
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Politics is the most vile form of theater.

People calling each other names while sharing for the most part the same faith, worldview and even race. There is no need for this. If we respect each other in 99% of threads, what about these two is so different?

I don't get it. Moving on.

I now see that I was wrong. It wouldn't have been better (but indeed much worse) if Hillary won, because the damage was already done when the votes were cast. The mere fact that Trump ran the campaign he did, and so many people were allowed to voice opposition to the system, it awoke the beast. When Trump said 'Build the Wall' and millions echoed in unison - across the world - even if this wall was a symbolic one for the ones outside of the US and even some within, the left knew that we existed in numbers large enough to trigger the fight or flight response. The crackdown would probably have gone faster and much deeper if Hillary had won. So, you are right and I was wrong.

I still think that electoral politics is dead. There will be no political savior figure coming and rebuilding society from the top down. Because the problem doesn't even lie in politics, in my opinion it doesn't even lie on what some people call elites, but on the common morality of people which is tied to the culture that surrounds them. Therefore in my view producing, disseminanting, organizing non-satanic culture is much more important than winning elections.

Those of us who are tapped out on the macro-political sphere but are serious about change will get involved with local spheres of influence, and those of you who think big politik can be turned around will focus your efforts on that front. We should be happy there are two sides to this, because then some of us can carry the torch whatever way it goes.

On the point of culture creation and influence, I think we'll have to move increasingly into camouflage mode. I have been doing that in my projects since the Obama years, when I started leaning heavily towards Hoppe and other such thinkers, as I didn't want those views tied to my 'citizen' name and affecting my 'citizen career'.

How much more careful do we need to be today? A lot more. Even with screennames and anonymous pseudonyms some of our views can constitute a crime in some places. And if not a crime, they can lead to doxxing which will in turn lead to pretty much becoming persona non grata if they publicize your name and face enough. So increasingly even the already anonymous will probably have to layer their content in creative ways to avoid being caught in the net of unnaceptable ideas.

Many groups across history, good and bad, were in this situation and most created internal symbolisms to communicate with each other undetected. Memes are of course already kind of fulfilling this role, but so far it's the only recognizable artifact of the right. We need to subvert their disorder the same way they subverted our order. We need to go way beyond the political, so beyond people won't even realize they are engaging with politically/socially charged material.

These types of restrictions can in fact lead to creative solutions on how to get ideas across. We have failed anyway without them. Let's face it, right wing art for the last, say, 100 years has been so insipid and academic, or so in your face and tasteless, that it either scares or bores the living crap out of normal people.

I have noticed in fact that even as recently as 30 years ago, some of the art created by the left, because it actually aspired to beauty and transcendence, actually ended up being quite reactionary (as in anti-progressive). Some notably left-wing writers have written beautiful novels in which there is actually a reactionary message to them, even if the author is just touching it by accident. A prominent example of this, as I have written here before, is Pulp Fiction - which despite its crude presentation is inadvertently a celebration of charity, honor and redemption. And of course, the whole Soviet Realism vs Capitalist Abstraction conundrum: where the art of the regime is inadvertently against its very foundation. Now we know, of course, that leftist academics and artists of predominantly jewish extraction promoted abstraction in art as a subversion tool of the Christian order. It worked.

Now we need to do what those academics and artists did, in the other direction. We have beauty, or we are able to perceive it, because God is merciful. Its power is immense.

We have barely scratched the surface. We have declared ourselves the counterculture, but we merely pointed out the absence of one. Now it's time to go to work.

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I like how Samseau keeps holding onto the notion we're haters when he himself is trying to or is involved in politics and the wind of change is blowing out of your favour.

A hater in this regard is a person I understand to be out on the streets assaulting pro-America/Democracy/Brexit supporters and attacks someone based on certain features. Its a form of discrimination, an act of hate.

It is not hate to pass comment or dislike DJT piling swamp monsters at the executive level.

You have not gone into detail why his damn daughter and son in law have executive level privileges and the black question marks around his financial and personal activities Samsea. Go into one of your rants please about how its making the US great again by having his kind at the top when you would eviscerate Obama and Bush for the same shit.

Do you have any integrity on that whatsoever?

I bet you'd call me a hater for seeing Brexit as a total failure as it stands because Britain now stands on the cusp of getting a leftwing lunatic Bloc into power.

I'm a realist, you're a dreamer. These swamp donkeys aren't going anywhere and your MAGA agenda is blinding you.
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No contribution from me in this thread. I'm still Pro-Trump since he isn't exactly deep state DC slime like everyone else. Hopefully Ron DeSantis replaces him next.

But this thread is hilarious. Whatever member has his signature as " a drawer where they store their moldy neuroses" can have it applied to this thread.

This thread got to 10 pages fast. Lot of crybabies from all over the world continuing to shit on the USA and actual citizens too.
The sigma/gamma propensity to stand outside the fray and hurl insults and stones while being passive aggressive towards others is amplified times 10 in this thread.
Have fun in here guys.

I doubt it. Remember that your lower level, millenial leftist isn't good at critical thinking. They're largely like trained dogs who emote in response to programmed cues like the word "racism" and "socialism". Easy_C

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(08-19-2019 12:55 PM)estraudi Wrote:  No contribution from me in this thread. I'm still Pro-Trump since he isn't exactly deep state DC slime like everyone else. Hopefully Ron DeSantis replaces him next.

Trump is pretty much is deep state. He choose to surround himself with Javanka (extreme deep state) and Bolton, Pompeo and now even Dick Cheney.

Isn't DeSantis the guy in Florida attacking the 1A? I was thinking he was attacking the first amendment rights in Florida.

There really isn't anyone on either side any longer.
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I'm sick and tired of Trump winning everything. He should save some for 2020.
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(08-19-2019 12:55 PM)estraudi Wrote:  No contribution from me in this thread. I'm still Pro-Trump since he isn't exactly deep state DC slime like everyone else. Hopefully Ron DeSantis replaces him next.

But this thread is hilarious. Whatever member has his signature as " a drawer where they store their moldy neuroses" can have it applied to this thread.

This thread got to 10 pages fast. Lot of crybabies from all over the world continuing to shit on the USA and actual citizens too.
The sigma/gamma propensity to stand outside the fray and hurl insults and stones while being passive aggressive towards others is amplified times 10 in this thread.
Have fun in here guys.

You call people cry babies and sperg this post out and have the audacity to use the sigma/gamma insult. Laugh

I'll have fun watching the likes of you get shocked out of your shell these coming months/years.
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If you support Trump, do so quietly and not in the streets at all.
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I saw a video of this guy and his child, a child no less facing off versus a gang of Antifa. The delusion of safety these people have trying to take on red shirts in places where the police and state assist them is unreal.

To put yourself in that position along with your child? Get your head sorted before a bike lock guy comes and does it for you.
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(08-19-2019 03:23 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I saw a video of this guy and his child, a child no less facing off versus a gang of Antifa. The delusion of safety these people have trying to take on red shirts in places where the police and state assist them is unreal.

To put yourself in that position along with your child? Get your head sorted before a bike lock guy comes and does it for you.

You're pretty much just asking for trouble going up against the establishment's Red Guard and on top of that, you're not accomplishing anything with these retard rallies either.
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Quote:If you support Trump, do so quietly and not in the streets at all.

These street fights with Antifa are nothing but pointless LARPing.

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(08-19-2019 06:07 PM)RexImperator Wrote:  
Quote:If you support Trump, do so quietly and not in the streets at all.

These street fights with Antifa are nothing but pointless LARPing.

The problem is, being Trump did nothing at all about Antifa, you could be attacked, hurt or even killed just going to one of Trump's rallies. This isn't just about silly LARPing, this is about any public support of Trump whatsoever could get you badly hurt or worse.
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A few things:

1. I'm proud of ilostabet.

2. Don't engage with idiots on the streets. Build your own life and avoid morons.

3. Make hay, be a world citizen now with options, inasmuch as you can.

4. Give thanks to God for everything you have.

5. It'll be ok.

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(08-19-2019 04:38 PM)Yatagan Wrote:  
(08-19-2019 03:23 PM)Foolsgo1d Wrote:  I saw a video of this guy and his child, a child no less facing off versus a gang of Antifa. The delusion of safety these people have trying to take on red shirts in places where the police and state assist them is unreal.

To put yourself in that position along with your child? Get your head sorted before a bike lock guy comes and does it for you.

You're pretty much just asking for trouble going up against the establishment's Red Guard and on top of that, you're not accomplishing anything with these retard rallies either.

At this point if you're opposed to globohomo on a political level you more or less have to think like an insurgent. Any other narrative is not permitted in the mainstream. The censorship with deplatforming (including taking away people's bank accounts) has been pretty wild. Even around 2016 when the alt right and civ nat alt light was just becoming a thing it was predicted that this is where things were headed.

I believe the analogy used at the time was that the dissident right is the radical dude on the street and globohomo (run by Jews) is Mike Tyson in its prime. You pick a fight against that directly you will get knocked the fuck out but the speed and aggressiveness in which they rolled this out is a bit surprising.

They aren't even bothering trying to justify any moral or legal concerns with the obvious political disenfranchisement of the dissident right. They are outright denying citizens proper due process and agency. In some ways this is worse than even what the PRC does in China. At least in China there is no real illusion about how the state behaves. In the U.S. it's a massive lie disguised as a fair and just process.
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The trouble for the Proudboys and other groups like them is that in failing to get antifa on the terrorist organisation list Trump has left the PBs at the mercy of the globohomo state governments where they reside. There's a world of difference between getting into a street-fight with the local bowls club of Stansbury and getting into a street-fight with ISIS, and while antifa remain off the federal list of terrorist organisations (which they more than qualify for by definition) the the Proudboys/Patriot-Prayer/etc are effectively in a legal sense getting into a street-fight with the local bowls club of Stansbury where the Judges, Mayor and Public Prosecutor are all sympathetic to the bowls club.

Trump's failure on this is damning and it has real world consequences for the people trying to Make America Great Again rather than simply trying to make hay while the sun shines. Trump is a money man who runs the show for anyone whose highest priority is to make money. How people like that would call themselves patriots is beyond me. The actual patriots want to fight for their nation. Not expand their portfolio while their nation burns.

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(08-19-2019 06:42 PM)Kid Twist Wrote:  A few things:

1. I'm proud of ilostabet.

2. Don't engage with idiots on the streets. Build your own life and avoid morons.

3. Make hay, be a world citizen now with options, inasmuch as you can.

4. Give thanks to God for everything you have.

5. It'll be ok.

2. You can only run for so long. Due to technology, the space to run is extremely limited and time is running out. I too avoid any silly altercations but I know that moving one more exit down the interstate into the xburbs isn't a long term solution either.

3. I have no idea what this means. The sun stopped shining on 9/11 and since then it is about survival and trying to keep stocked up and prepared.

4. This is the correct attitude but it doesn't solve the massive problems Trump has greatly increased.

5. I disagree. After August the 5th 2019, I realized how much trouble we are in.
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(08-19-2019 11:34 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The trouble for the Proudboys and other groups like them is that in failing to get antifa on the terrorist organisation list Trump has left the PBs at the mercy of the globohomo state governments where they reside. There's a world of difference between getting into a street-fight with the local bowls club of Stansbury and getting into a street-fight with ISIS, and while antifa remain off the federal list of terrorist organisations (which they more than qualify for by definition) the the Proudboys/Patriot-Prayer/etc are effectively in a legal sense getting into a street-fight with the local bowls club of Stansbury where the Judges, Mayor and Public Prosecutor are all sympathetic to the bowls club.

Trump's failure on this is damning and it has real world consequences for the people trying to Make America Great Again rather than simply trying to make hay while the sun shines. Trump is a money man who runs the show for anyone whose highest priority is to make money. How people like that would call themselves patriots is beyond me. The actual patriots want to fight for their nation. Not expand their portfolio while their nation burns.

Trump doesn't just expand his portfolio while the nation burns, he tosses the real patriots under the bus and laughs at them. Trump gives false hope to the real patriots and then pulls the rug out from underneath them every time he can.

There are three reasons I still say we would be better off with Hillary...

#1) The rabid left wouldn't be so damn rabid. They have doubled, tripled and quadrupled down since Trump won and due to Trump giving no push back, the public discourse has moved strongly to the left. Under Hillary these people would be asleep or acting arrogant and getting nothing done, like they did under Obama.

#2) The Trump base wouldn't be asleep and saying "oh Trump will fight for us" then when you point out Trump does the opposite they claim you are making it up. The Trump base being asleep is a bigger threat than Hillary in the White House with a Republican Senate.

#3) Everything would be the same. When I challenge Trump supporters on this, the only hill they have left to fight on is "he got rid of regulations". What regulations? Who does this help? It didn't move the economy at all? It didn't put any money in my pocket. It didn't give anyone I know a better job or a better life. What are these regulations and how is getting rid of them good? I'm not saying it wasn't a good move, I just know that blindly supporting Trump, who has a miserable record nearly 3 years in, isn't what I will do myself.

Every day I realize more and more what a massive mistake Trump has been and that if he doesn't do something in his last year to help his base, then he has to be voted out in 2020.
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I don't think he'll be voted out. I think the elites like him right where he is for all the reasons you've listed before.

Imagine you were in the NBA finals and you had a two game lead but certain members of your team suddenly start having an "off game" and before you know it you find yourself in game 7 down four points with 20 seconds left

Then the guy that promises to make the shots that'll give you the game sits at half court running out the last 20 seconds...

Trump's campaign was a huge F-U to the globohomos and the election results were another one but after that it's been nothing but failure after failure to deliver on the key issues that would allow his voters to retain their nation into the next generation. As I've said before, a Bush style theft of the election by Hillary would have led to most politically productive outcome of all. The second most productive outcome would have been for Trump to reveal honestly that the deep state is too entrenched to be removed democratically and elections don't really matter. That would have woken people up. But as it stands Trump is just running down the demographic catastrophe clock and wasting precious time with his song and dance routine.

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(08-20-2019 05:15 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  I don't think he'll be voted out. I think the elites like him right where he is for all the reasons you've listed before.

Imagine you were in the NBA finals and you had a two game lead but certain members of your team suddenly start having an "off game" and before you know it you find yourself in game 7 down four points with 20 seconds left

Then the guy that promises to make the shots that'll give you the game sits at half court running out the last 20 seconds...

Trump's campaign was a huge F-U to the globohomos and the election results were another one but after that it's been nothing but failure after failure to deliver on the key issues that would allow his voters to retain their nation into the next generation. As I've said before, a Bush style theft of the election by Hillary would have led to most politically productive outcome of all. The second most productive outcome would have been for Trump to reveal honestly that the deep state is too entrenched to be removed democratically and elections don't really matter. That would have woken people up. But as it stands Trump is just running down the demographic catastrophe clock and wasting precious time with his song and dance routine.

I can't predict if Trump wins or not in 2020, it is a long ways away and the economy doesn't look good. If the economy manages to not tank by 2020, Trump has a chance. But it is an uphill battle for him due to demographic changes and how little Trump has done for blue collar workers in key states. The demographics in Florida and Penn are against Trump more so this time. The lack of blue collar support in Michigan and Wisconsin is against Trump more so this time.

I'm just saying if Trump does nothing for his base in his last year, and that looks very likely, then he needs to be voted out. If we are going to get nothing from the President, at least make it so that the MAGA crowd wakes up and realizes how much trouble they are in rather than just passively watching their nation collapse.
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I don't see any possibility whatsoever of Trump being overthrown by the Right itself. Who would even be put up against him?

Lots of people on the Right like to point and laugh at how pathetic the Dem primaries are but I think there's a method to their madness, at least on behalf of their handlers. I think they're going to put up a crappy candidate and ensure Trump gets another term because Trump's administration is giving them everything they need while keeping Red America either on the revolutionary bench or in a prison cell if they're stupid enough to think Trump has their back.

If by some miracle the Democrat candidate is running close to Trump in 2020 look for a series of catastrophic gaffes or revelations that all-but knock them out of the race (just enough to leave congress in gridlock at least). The Right will revel in their "great victory" and you'll get 4 more years of this nonsense.

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