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(06-07-2017 10:28 PM)Chavo Wrote:  Trust me. The Democratic party is NOT imploding. They are only getting stronger. Just like how people in 2008 said the Republican party was "imploding" quickly found out that it wasn't the case. The problem is that the Democratic party pushed an establishment corrupt candidate in Hillary Clinton. They ignored their liberal base completely, Hillary ignored her base. Trump was a very beatable candidate. Trump didn't beat Hillary, Hillary beat herself. I can't even begin to describe how shitty her campaign was.
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Trump surrounded himself with nothing but Goldman Sachs and ExxonMobil​ people. Yeah Donnie, you are sure "draining the swamp". My ass.

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Chaffe is right.

If the Dems take most of Trump's position except softer on immigration & free college / loan forgiveness & put anyone halfway likable to fucking white males it is a very tough contest for Trump.

I am not sure they will be smart enough though unless lose big in 2018. Elizabeth Warren would lose. They need a younger charismatic person that steal Bernie's platform.

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(06-07-2017 10:44 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 10:28 PM)Chavo Wrote:  Trust me. The Democratic party is NOT imploding. They are only getting stronger. Just like how people in 2008 said the Republican party was "imploding" quickly found out that it wasn't the case. The problem is that the Democratic party pushed an establishment corrupt candidate in Hillary Clinton. They ignored their liberal base completely, Hillary ignored her base. Trump was a very beatable candidate. Trump didn't beat Hillary, Hillary beat herself. I can't even begin to describe how shitty her campaign was.
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Trump surrounded himself with nothing but Goldman Sachs and ExxonMobil​ people. Yeah Donnie, you are sure "draining the swamp". My ass.

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In the end if the Dem party survives it will only be because it's voters are utter whores who preach a certain mantra while remaining wilfully blind to the fact that the other half of the party preaches the exact opposite.

Frankly half of the supporters want to subjugate or outright exterminate the other half of the supporters. It's the most ridiculous political snakepit in the history of ridiculous political snake pits, and at the end of the primaries even the DNC had to put up a wall to protect themselves from... other DEMOCRATS!

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(06-07-2017 10:28 PM)Chavo Wrote:  Trust me. The Democratic party is NOT imploding. They are only getting stronger. Just like how people in 2008 said the Republican party was "imploding" quickly found out that it wasn't the case. The problem is that the Democratic party pushed an establishment corrupt candidate in Hillary Clinton. They ignored their liberal base completely, Hillary ignored her base. Trump was a very beatable candidate. Trump didn't beat Hillary, Hillary beat herself. I can't even begin to describe how shitty her campaign was.

According to polls, Trump has the worst approval rating than any president in modern history. She lost to a guy who said "I grab them by the pussy I don't even wait". This is a guy who said "We need to take out their families".

If I was running her campaign I would have run ads talking about Trump's hipocracy on being against NAFTA and TPP when he himself outsources his own jobs to China or Mexico. I would have used his own quotes of saying "We need to take out their families" and hammered him by saying "OMG, unhinged, terrorist Donald Trump wants to kill civilians, we can't have this, he's crazy". But noooo she goes with "Stronger Together", "Break Down the Barriers" "Oh look he uses naughty words, hide your children". Nothing but dumb cliches and platitudes that appeal to nobody. She also ignored her base once more buy picking Tim Kaine as her VP, a boring white guy who is for TPP and is centrist at best. Hell, an Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders VP would have probably given her the election. But no. Hillary Clinton is by far the worst politician in American history. Hillary Clinton has no one to blame but herself. Not this whole Russia thing she's trying to make people believe. She sucked period.

She almost lost to Bernie Sanders in the primaries. A 100 year old, atheist Jew from Vermont, with uncombed hair and bad posture​ got 47% of the primary vote and nearly won, with virtually the whole political establishment and institutional bias against him and no help from donors or special interests.

The Democratic party is not broken. They just need to get rid of the establishment Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine, Howard Dean, Booker and let the real progressives like Elizabeth Warren and the Bernie Sanders wing take over because that is what the Democratic base wants.

I still believe that if Bernie Sanders was given a fair chance and he became the Democratic nominee, he would have slaughtered Trump and it would have been no contest. Sanders would not have ignored the Democratic firewall in Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, and Pennsylvania. As a matter of fact Bernie Sanders would have won those States rather easily and would have exposed Trump on his fake "for the average American" con artist shtick.


Trump surrounded himself with nothing but Goldman Sachs and ExxonMobil​ people. Yeah Donnie, you are sure "draining the swamp". My ass.

Unfortunately, your political party made your favorite senile half-wit their prison yard bitch and cheated him out of the nomination. But they cut him a check so he was ok with that, like the hypocritical rich socialist little bitch he is. No man who gets pushed off his own stage by knuckle dragging scum like Black Lives Matter was ever going to win the presidency, anyway. No one who isn't mentally retarded wants that old communist wuss in charge of anything.
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(06-07-2017 11:11 PM)Germanicus Wrote:  Unfortunately, your political party made your favorite senile half-wit their prison yard bitch and cheated him out of the nomination. But they cut him a check so he was ok with that, like the hypocritical rich socialist little bitch he is. No man who gets pushed off his own stage by knuckle dragging scum like Black Lives Matter was ever going to win the presidency, anyway. No one who isn't mentally retarded wants that old communist wuss in charge of anything.

So true.

Hillary kept it remotely close cos she could play the woman card.

I would have LOVED to see the old menshevik taken to the woodshed by Trump.
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(06-07-2017 10:56 PM)Chavo Wrote:  ...
Not trolling. You know what I'm saying is true.

Yeah, sure buddy...whatever you makes you happy.
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(06-07-2017 11:03 PM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  In the end if the Dem party survives it will only be because it's voters are utter whores who preach a certain mantra while remaining wilfully blind to the fact that the other half of the party preaches the exact opposite.

Frankly half of the supporters want to subjugate or outright exterminate the other half of the supporters. It's the most ridiculous political snakepit in the history of ridiculous political snake pits, and at the end of the primaries even the DNC had to put up a wall to protect themselves from... other DEMOCRATS!

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That is not just a Democratic problem. It's not like the GOP is all singing kumbaya. You have the Tea Partiers, the Libertarians, who hate each other. You have the Neo-cons who hate the tea partiers, the tea partiers who hate the white nationalist David Duke types. You have a bunch of different factions all hating each other.

Which party is imploding again?
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(06-07-2017 11:11 PM)Germanicus Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 10:28 PM)Chavo Wrote:  Trust me. The Democratic party is NOT imploding. They are only getting stronger. Just like how people in 2008 said the Republican party was "imploding" quickly found out that it wasn't the case. The problem is that the Democratic party pushed an establishment corrupt candidate in Hillary Clinton. They ignored their liberal base completely, Hillary ignored her base. Trump was a very beatable candidate. Trump didn't beat Hillary, Hillary beat herself. I can't even begin to describe how shitty her campaign was.

According to polls, Trump has the worst approval rating than any president in modern history. She lost to a guy who said "I grab them by the pussy I don't even wait". This is a guy who said "We need to take out their families".

If I was running her campaign I would have run ads talking about Trump's hipocracy on being against NAFTA and TPP when he himself outsources his own jobs to China or Mexico. I would have used his own quotes of saying "We need to take out their families" and hammered him by saying "OMG, unhinged, terrorist Donald Trump wants to kill civilians, we can't have this, he's crazy". But noooo she goes with "Stronger Together", "Break Down the Barriers" "Oh look he uses naughty words, hide your children". Nothing but dumb cliches and platitudes that appeal to nobody. She also ignored her base once more buy picking Tim Kaine as her VP, a boring white guy who is for TPP and is centrist at best. Hell, an Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders VP would have probably given her the election. But no. Hillary Clinton is by far the worst politician in American history. Hillary Clinton has no one to blame but herself. Not this whole Russia thing she's trying to make people believe. She sucked period.

She almost lost to Bernie Sanders in the primaries. A 100 year old, atheist Jew from Vermont, with uncombed hair and bad posture​ got 47% of the primary vote and nearly won, with virtually the whole political establishment and institutional bias against him and no help from donors or special interests.

The Democratic party is not broken. They just need to get rid of the establishment Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine, Howard Dean, Booker and let the real progressives like Elizabeth Warren and the Bernie Sanders wing take over because that is what the Democratic base wants.

I still believe that if Bernie Sanders was given a fair chance and he became the Democratic nominee, he would have slaughtered Trump and it would have been no contest. Sanders would not have ignored the Democratic firewall in Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, and Pennsylvania. As a matter of fact Bernie Sanders would have won those States rather easily and would have exposed Trump on his fake "for the average American" con artist shtick.


Trump surrounded himself with nothing but Goldman Sachs and ExxonMobil​ people. Yeah Donnie, you are sure "draining the swamp". My ass.

Unfortunately, your political party made your favorite senile half-wit their prison yard bitch and cheated him out of the nomination. But they cut him a check so he was ok with that, like the hypocritical rich socialist little bitch he is. No man who gets pushed off his own stage by knuckle dragging scum like Black Lives Matter was ever going to win the presidency, anyway. No one who isn't mentally retarded wants that old communist wuss in charge of anything.


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People don't lose or win elections based on irrelevant things like getting pushed off stage by a bunch of activists. You get elected based on POLICY. Being beta or alpha has no bearing on winning elections. There has been many beta presidents and alpha ones and things liked getting pushed off a stage was never the reason they lost or won. George Bush did some of the stupidest and most embarrassing things during his campaign and guess what, he still won. Twice!

What matters is policy and what are you going to do for me. I don't care what you do, but fight for me. Why do you think the Democratic base loved Bernie Sanders? Because everything that comes out of his mouth is policy.

"We're going to have Universal Health Care"
"We're going to have free college"
"We're going to raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks"
"We're going to end all these wars"
"NAFTA is a bad idea"

POLICY POLICY POLICY

Which is something Hillary failed to do which is why she lost. Trump on the other hand portrayed himself as more populist by saying things like

"We're going to build a wall" (How many miles of the wall has he built yet? Exactly)
"We're going to make Mexico pay for the wall" (How much has Mexico paid? Exactly)
"We're going to deport all 11 million illegals" (Hasn't even deported 30,000 yet)
"We're going to drain the swamp" (Yeah ok putting executives from Goldman Sachs in top government positions and the CEO of ExxonMobil as your Secretary of State isn't draining no swamp, motherfucker you are the swamp)
"We're not going to cut social security or Medicaid" (Massive Medicaid cuts in his own health care bill)
"We need Universal Health Care" (Broken promise, his new health care bill is far from single payer)

Biggest con artist in the history of politics is Trump.
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(06-07-2017 11:26 PM)budoslavic Wrote:  
(06-07-2017 10:56 PM)Chavo Wrote:  ...
Not trolling. You know what I'm saying is true.

Yeah, sure buddy...whatever you makes you happy.
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How many times have the RNC had to install special barriers and ask the police to prevent fellow Republicans rioting at their primaries?

Zero.

In any case, aren't you wasting time and energy pushing this nonsense? You and your freedom hating pals have some serious rebuilding to do and instead you're here yakking to a bunch of Trumpkins. What gives?
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(06-08-2017 02:02 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  How many times have the RNC had to install special barriers and ask the police to prevent fellow Republicans rioting at their primaries?

Zero.

In any case, aren't you wasting time and energy pushing this nonsense? You and your freedom hating pals have some serious rebuilding to do and instead you're here yakking to a bunch of Trumpkins. What gives?

I just stumbled upon this thread and saw "Democratic Party is imploding" and I call bullshit. In what way? The Democratic party much like the Republican party have the exact same problems. Both bases hate establishment politicians. I recall the Conservative base hating guys like Jeb Bush and Marco Rubio because they were Neo Con establishment politicians. See? Republicans fighting Republicans.

It's the same exact thing with the Democrats. The Progressive base hated Hillary Clinton because you guessed it, she's an establishment politician. No different than Jeb Bush or Marco Rubio. Would the Conservative base gotten behind Jeb Bush if he was the nominee instead of Trump? Probably not. Would that have meant that the Republican party was "imploding"? No.

The Liberal base simply didn't like Hillary since their guy was Bernie Sanders so the Liberal base pretty much stayed home and didn't vote in the election and paved the way for a Trump victory.

I will go as far as to say that if Trump continues to break promises and continues to coddle up to Wall Street and snub his base who put him in office, then the Democrats are going to win in 2018 and he will be a one term president in 2020.

Also, didn't know there's a lot of Trump supporters here. I thought this forum was more rounded with different view points. Guess not.
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I think Chavo is correct. The Democrat party is not imploding, they just need their old guard to retire off to the sunset. Bernie Sanders laid the map for the Democrat party if it wants to reign supreme. And I think the Democrat party realizes that right now. Bernie Sanders was a joke, but this is a popularity contest, not a contest of the rightful person. And Sanders ideas would have most likely allowed him to beat Trump.

Hillary ran a horrible campaign that appealed to no one, except people who hate white males, and she was a few hundred thousand away from beating Trump. Had it instead been Bernie up there touting both the anti-white male rhetoric but also the rhetoric of bringing jobs back to the USA, plus the need to scrap the shit mess that was Obamacare and replace it with "free" Dodgy healthcare, I don't see how Trump beats him. So thank God the Democrats put Hillary up instead of Bernie.

The Democratic party is a mess. They stand for nothing but failed Bolshevik policies, that have worked no where in the world, and hating white men. There is no way the USA remains a 1st world nation if they were running the show.

But this isn't about if the Democrat party can right the ship or has good ideas. I don't believe a single person on this forum believes the Democrat party can do any good for the country. This is about if they are imploding. And they most certainly are not. With the increasing Demographic changes, the Democrat party will be a one party regime within 20 years, maybe within 10 years.

The Republicans have the better ideas, but it will be the Republican party that ceases to exist due to demographics alone, unless something major is done to stop this in the next few years.

Eventually, well, in probably a decade or two, the USA will resemble the UK, except with more poverty, more crime and less social services. We will have the hopelessness of high taxes, terrorism daily, and no 1st or 2nd amendment.
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(06-08-2017 04:27 AM)It_is_my_time Wrote:  I think Chavo is correct. The Democrat party is not imploding, they just need their old guard to retire off to the sunset. Bernie Sanders laid the map for the Democrat party if it wants to reign supreme. And I think the Democrat party realizes that right now. Bernie Sanders was a joke, but this is a popularity contest, not a contest of the rightful person. And Sanders ideas would have most likely allowed him to beat Trump.

Hillary ran a horrible campaign that appealed to no one, except people who hate white males, and she was a few hundred thousand away from beating Trump. Had it instead been Bernie up there touting both the anti-white male rhetoric but also the rhetoric of bringing jobs back to the USA, plus the need to scrap the shit mess that was Obamacare and replace it with "free" Dodgy healthcare, I don't see how Trump beats him. So thank God the Democrats put Hillary up instead of Bernie.

The Democratic party is a mess. They stand for nothing but failed Bolshevik policies, that have worked no where in the world, and hating white men. There is no way the USA remains a 1st world nation if they were running the show.

But this isn't about if the Democrat party can right the ship or has good ideas. I don't believe a single person on this forum believes the Democrat party can do any good for the country. This is about if they are imploding. And they most certainly are not. With the increasing Demographic changes, the Democrat party will be a one party regime within 20 years, maybe within 10 years.

The Republicans have the better ideas, but it will be the Republican party that ceases to exist due to demographics alone, unless something major is done to stop this in the next few years.

Eventually, well, in probably a decade or two, the USA will resemble the UK, except with more poverty, more crime and less social services. We will have the hopelessness of high taxes, terrorism daily, and no 1st or 2nd amendment.



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People who think the Democrats are just going to implode and die do not understand the situation​ at hand. I think it was Ann Coulter who said after Trump won that he can very well be the last Republican president to be elected. What did she mean by that? I think she was talking about Demographics changes since America is becoming majority minority and minorities mostly vote Democrat, with the exception of Cuban Americans who usually vote Republican.
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Chavo is right.

We should never underestimate the capacity for hostile minorities, crooked globalists and cucked beta males to band together to destroy the greatest nation ever created.
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The Democratic Party is imploding, however they will regroup. How quickly and how effectively is the question. The old guard of Hillary, Bernie, and Biden will shuffle off before 2020, leaving perhaps Warren and a doddering and ineffectual Pelosi still around. I still think Corey Booker will be a threat as a presidential candidate. However, the thing they must address is whether they can achieve more than 40% of the white vote. At the moment they are not even attempting to be anything more than a coalition of aggrieved minorities. As such, as long as Trump holds his base - as he is doing so far - he will win reelection.
The changing demographics is real, and in 20 years it will be a different story. But for now, and for 2018-20, the Democrats look like they're fucked.

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Demographics are also overrated.

The party of "minorities" thing isn't going to work forever for the Dems. It might win them another 10-15 years of elections in the future but eventually you'll have Muslims turning on Jews, Blacks turning on Whites, and Christian Hispanics turning on Muslims. The fault lines of the Dems are far more serious than the fault lines of Republicans.

The only thing holding the Dems together is hatred of Whitey, but that only goes so far. Once the Dems achieve power the divisions within their own party will reopen and fracture, just like it did in 2016. The Democratic party is built on sand, it has no real staying power. Their capacity for destruction, however, is still immense.

The real party of the future is the one who can unite America's Christians successfully. It would easily carry 60% of the Hispanic and White vote. It may have to be a party that allows open borders (if Trump cannot fix it) as well.

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If the Democraps are so concerned about Russian intervention in our elections, HOW COME THEY AREN'T CONCERNED ABOUT ILLEGAL ALIENS ACTUALLY CASTING VOTES IN OUR ELECTIONS???????????????

Fucking hypocrites, every one of them.

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The Democrats are in trouble because, nationally, they have no bench. I thought it was weird that their primaries consisted of just Sanders and Clinton. Where were all the new faces that could use some exposure and experience running for President? Once the current group retires, that's it. They don't have any real leaders ready to take over. In 5 years you're going to see a bunch of Macron's vying for power in the Democrat Party.
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(06-07-2017 10:28 PM)Chavo Wrote:  Trust me. The Democratic party is NOT imploding. They are only getting stronger. Just like how people in 2008 said the Republican party was "imploding" quickly found out that it wasn't the case. The problem is that the Democratic party pushed an establishment corrupt candidate in Hillary Clinton. They ignored their liberal base completely, Hillary ignored her base. Trump was a very beatable candidate. Trump didn't beat Hillary, Hillary beat herself. I can't even begin to describe how shitty her campaign was.

The reason why the Dems ignored their base is the reason why the Dems are imploding. The fact is the establishment doesn't want to give concessions to the people, which means the party is dying.

Had the establishment Republicans successfully cheated Trump, the Republicans would be dying right now. Instead they surrendered to Trump and the party is stronger than ever.

Quote:According to polls, Trump has the worst approval rating than any president in modern history. She lost to a guy who said "I grab them by the pussy I don't even wait". This is a guy who said "We need to take out their families".

According to the polls Hillary had 99.9% chance of winning. If you think those polls are real, I cannot wait to take your money in 2020 when the betting comes around again.

Quote:If I was running her campaign I would have run ads talking about Trump's hipocracy on being against NAFTA and TPP when he himself outsources his own jobs to China or Mexico. I would have used his own quotes of saying "We need to take out their families" and hammered him by saying "OMG, unhinged, terrorist Donald Trump wants to kill civilians, we can't have this, he's crazy". But noooo she goes with "Stronger Together", "Break Down the Barriers" "Oh look he uses naughty words, hide your children". Nothing but dumb cliches and platitudes that appeal to nobody. She also ignored her base once more buy picking Tim Kaine as her VP, a boring white guy who is for TPP and is centrist at best. Hell, an Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders VP would have probably given her the election. But no. Hillary Clinton is by far the worst politician in American history. Hillary Clinton has no one to blame but herself. Not this whole Russia thing she's trying to make people believe. She sucked period.

She almost lost to Bernie Sanders in the primaries. A 100 year old, atheist Jew from Vermont, with uncombed hair and bad posture​ got 47% of the primary vote and nearly won, with virtually the whole political establishment and institutional bias against him and no help from donors or special interests.

I still believe that if Bernie Sanders was given a fair chance and he became the Democratic nominee, he would have slaughtered Trump and it would have been no contest. Sanders would not have ignored the Democratic firewall in Wisconsin, Michigan, Indiana, and Pennsylvania. As a matter of fact Bernie Sanders would have won those States rather easily and would have exposed Trump on his fake "for the average American" con artist shtick.

The idea Bernie would have been a stronger candidate is highly questionable. First of all, he would have not gotten nearly as much money.

Although Bernie would have been stronger in the rust belt, he would have been weaker in places like Nevada, Florida, and Virginia.

Trump would have also crushed Bernie in the debates even more than he did with Hillary. I'm afraid you forget that Trump is the ultimate alpha male who can easily bully any man. Trump had more trouble against Hillary because as a woman, Trump had to turn down the meanness he used against Lyin Ted and Little Marco.

Although it's a nice pipe dream for Dems to believe Bernie would have won, it just doesn't match reality. Bernie would have been outspent, out performed, and easily painted as a expensive Communist who never worked a real job a day in his life. America, with record debts, is hardly in the mood for yet another expensive Democrat with nothing but promises.

Bernie's track record in congress, while ideologically pure, is also low on achievements.

Quote:The Democratic party is not broken. They just need to get rid of the establishment Democrats like Hillary Clinton, Tim Kaine, Howard Dean, Booker and let the real progressives like Elizabeth Warren and the Bernie Sanders wing take over because that is what the Democratic base wants.

Congrats on contradicting yourself. The Dems aren't broken, they just need to replace their entire leadership. <--- This is the definition of broken. In corporate language the company is ready for a "restructuring."

Quote:Trump surrounded himself with nothing but Goldman Sachs and ExxonMobil​ people. Yeah Donnie, you are sure "draining the swamp". My ass.

As has been discussed in the Trump thread many times, the reason Trump keeps the Goldman and Exxon people around is for a window into the elite world. He doesn't obey any of them.

For example, both Rex and Gary wanted to stay in the Paris accord. Trump left the accord anyways.

Trump has his own money and is no puppet. Conversely whores like Bernie have been sucking donor cock for decades in order to survive.

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Chieaaaaavo;

Quote:People don't lose or win elections based on irrelevant things like getting pushed off stage by a bunch of activists.

Losing control of your own speaking event shows a complete lack of leadership and organization. By itself it is not enough to lose an election, but it is a sign of the utter lack of balls and leadership ability pointing to how weak of a sissy bitch Bernie Sanders truly is. As such, during the election campaign the American people would quickly pick up on the fact that old man Sanders was a cowardly weakling. If you can't even control and stand up to a bunch of aggressive hecklers how the fuck are you gonna handle hard negotiations with the Chinese or Iranians or deal with the terrorist threat? The American people, therefore, would have rejected this old Yiddish wuss and sent him back to his freshly DNC paid-for blood money beach house. That's even without mentioning how he endorsed the party and candidate that cheated him. A complete lack of integrity and courage.

Quote:You get elected based on POLICY.

Ideas are the main things that separate candidates?! Wow. Totally didn't know that. Thanks, tips. Your astute expertise gained from watching CNN has left me a more informed individual. If only we could all be as learned as you.

Quote:Being beta or alpha has no bearing on winning elections. There has been many beta presidents and alpha ones and things liked getting pushed off a stage was never the reason they lost or won. George Bush did some of the stupidest and most embarrassing things during his campaign and guess what, he still won. Twice!


George Bush was not a very politically astute man. He, however, was still not a flaming pussy. Other than that he also had enough social charm as to make himself palatable to the average voter. Unlike the elderly nerd you foolishly think highly of.

Quote:What matters is policy and what are you going to do for me. I don't care what you do, but fight for me. Why do you think the Democratic base loved Bernie Sanders?

Again, Bernie Sanders isn't winning any kind of fight. He's such a pussy that he went along with the people who cheated him. If he had refused to endorse Hillary and stayed silent during the campaign, that would've shown some resolve.

Bernie -- I want Policy X for the working class!
Wall Street -- No, absolutely not. We can't profit off this to the extent we'd like.
Bernie - Please? Pretty please?
Wall Street -- No.
Bernie -- Yes, sir.

^President Bernie Sanders in a nutshell.

Quote:Because everything that comes out of his mouth is policy.

Everything out of his mouth is stupid.

Quote:"We're going to have Universal Health Care"

Very Expensive. Very difficult to implement. The nation is bankrupt and cannot afford it. Where will the money come from? More taxes? Good luck with that.

Quote:"We're going to have free college"

Very Expensive. Of dubious use and utility. The nation is bankrupt and cannot afford it. Where will the money come from? More taxes? Good luck with that.

Quote:"We're going to raise the minimum wage to 15 bucks"

Stupid. Completely economically stupid. Punishes small to mid-size businesses by increasing their wage payments making profits even harder to come by in a down economy. Punishes fast food and retail workers and other employees of larger business by those businesses reducing staffs and employing more automation to cut costs. But hey, it sounds good to retards who don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. "More money an hour means we be rich, bitch!" And pink slip. Dipshit.

Quote:"We're going to end all these wars"


Funny, when Trump says this everyone from the Washington Post to Buzzfeed like to shit their pants about how wrong it is to be an isolationist as they publish pictures of dead third world children in war zones. Also St. Barak of Kenya-Indonesia said similar things in 2007-08 and ended up bombing the absolute shit out of everyone. Funny.
Also see above scenario about Wall Street. President Sanders defend himself against the "Intelligence Community?" Yeah, no.

Quote:"NAFTA is a bad idea"

Also funny; that same media loves to call Trump a retard for saying the exact same thing... It's kinda... as if... Trump actually means it and certain powerful people are attempting to sucker the unwashed masses against him....

Quote:POLICY POLICY POLICY

BASIC BITCH BASIC BITCH BASIC BITCH

Quote:Which is something Hillary failed to do which is why she lost.

Hilary lost for many reasons. But to summarize:
1. Trump is a winner and schooled her.
2. She is a corrupt, unlikeable piece of shit.
3. She has no ideas. A campaign of "white heterosexual men are foul garbage!" and "I have a vagina and it's my turn!" aren't exactly inspiring platforms.
4. Trump offered a hand out to the masses with POLICIES (POLICIES POLICES) that the working and middle classes wanted. And that the establishment is fighting him tooth and nail is proof that he intends to carry out these policies.

Quote:Trump on the other hand portrayed himself as more populist by saying things like

"We're going to build a wall" (How many miles of the wall has he built yet? Exactly)
"We're going to make Mexico pay for the wall" (How much has Mexico paid? Exactly)
"We're going to deport all 11 million illegals" (Hasn't even deported 30,000 yet)
"We're going to drain the swamp" (Yeah ok putting executives from Goldman Sachs in top government positions and the CEO of ExxonMobil as your Secretary of State isn't draining no swamp, motherfucker you are the swamp)
"We're not going to cut social security or Medicaid" (Massive Medicaid cuts in his own health care bill)
"We need Universal Health Care" (Broken promise, his new health care bill is far from single payer)

Biggest con artist in the history of politics is Trump.


Realistically, all Trump has to do is keep the 1st and 2nd amendments alive and keep America out of a major war and Trump will still go down as one of the best Presidents in history.

But as for "POLICY," let's see here: it's early days yet. He's been on the job five months. And as such, he's been the target of non-stop harassment and treachery. He quite clearly intends to do everything in his platform. If he didn't, they wouldn't treat him this way. He has been slowed down by hostiles every step of the way. He hasn't deported anyone yet because dipshit judges (illegally) rescind his orders for travel bans. How can he finish a plan if he's being prevented from taking step one?

In any case, it'll happen. The Wall is coming, Mexico will pay for it in the end, the repatriations are coming, and you, She-bago need to go back too.

In the meantime, keep watching CNN. Wouldn't want you to not stay on top of the political science game.
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RE: The Democratic Party is Imploding
(06-07-2017 10:28 PM)Chavo Wrote:  Trust me. The Democratic party is NOT imploding.

blah blah

Joe Biden is a goddam pedo, and Sanders' a class 1 cuck.

The only half-decent Democrat right now is Tulsi, and she's been ostracized for going off the neocon playbook.

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RE: The Democratic Party is Imploding
(06-08-2017 12:11 PM)Samseau Wrote:  Demographics are also overrated.

The party of "minorities" thing isn't going to work forever for the Dems. It might win them another 10-15 years of elections in the future but eventually you'll have Muslims turning on Jews, Blacks turning on Whites, and Christian Hispanics turning on Muslims. The fault lines of the Dems are far more serious than the fault lines of Republicans.

The only thing holding the Dems together is hatred of Whitey, but that only goes so far. Once the Dems achieve power the divisions within their own party will reopen and fracture, just like it did in 2016. The Democratic party is built on sand, it has no real staying power.

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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-12...h-bad-news

Quote:As Bank of America wrote in its latest muni market report, among the $14.7bn backlog of bills (as of 5 June) to be paid by the state of Illinois due to the protracted budget impasse is some $2bn-plus in Medicaid-related payments owed to the private insurers the state contracted with to manage roughly two-thirds of its Medicaid recipients. Those payments amount to some $300mn per month. A number of private insurers have sued in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois to prioritize their payments over those due to other vendors.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-12...-new-fraud

Quote:Harry Markopolos, the investigator who exposed the Bernie Madoff Ponzi scheme, has uncovered a new fraud. The unfunded status of the pension fund of the Boston Transit Authority (the “MBTA”) is $500 million bigger than previously thought, according to Markopolos. This will have a significant impact on the municipal bond market, especially if it turns out that the MBTA’s problems are endemic among similar pension funds.

The unfunded status of a pension fund is the market value of the assets minus the present value of the liabilities, discounted at an actuarially determined interest rate. For most public pension plans, this number is negative; the liabilities exceed the assets and it is underfunded.

Although the full details are not yet known, Markopolos said the $500 gap is due to bad investments, fraudulent accounting and unrealistic actuarial assumptions.

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