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It used to be that sinister subversives were subtle.
They knew it was better to play the long game when it came to shifting the 'Overton window'.
The proverbial frog in a boiling pot idea.

Now, whether on purpose or whether this new millennial iteration of the sinister Soycialists (Justice Democrats et al.) are simply too impatient & too petulant to play long subtle games, we get to watch the old guard of the DNC fuss about.


Quote:Jan Schakowsky (D-IL) on how Democrats should respond to Rep. Ilhan Omar’s (D-MN) anti-Semitism: “This is not a conversation we ought to have…in the public” pic.twitter.com/BHG3mszkd3
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Quote:Democratic Whip Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC) defended his colleague Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN) by reasoning that she is higher than Jews on the pyramid of intersectionality. In an interview with The Hill on Wednesday, Clyburn trivialized Holocaust survivors when he implied that Omar’s time in a Kenyan refugee camp outweighed the experiences of Jews.

Her experience, Clyburn argued, is much more empirical — and powerful — than that of people who are generations removed from the Holocaust, Japanese internment camps during World War II and the other violent episodes that have marked history.

“I’m serious about that. There are people who tell me, ‘Well, my parents are Holocaust survivors.’ ‘My parents did this.’ It’s more personal with her,” Clyburn said. “I’ve talked to her, and I can tell you she is living through a lot of pain.”

Clyburn is the third-highest ranking Democrat in the House, who has shared a stage with the notorious anti-semite Louis Farrakhan. According to Clyburn’s logic, it’s OK to hate Jews if you rank higher than them on the hierarchy of victimhood. Omar is a Muslim woman who was born in Somalia and had to flee violence in her country, so Democrats believe her hate speech should be excused, while Holocaust survivors should sit quiet.

Clyburn’s comments come during a fragmented week for Democrats, who failed to pass a resolution condemning anti-Semitism in the wake of Omar’s repeated anti-Semitic slurs. Clyburn, a prominent member of the Congressional Black Caucus, said he rejected the idea that the proposed resolution would single Omar out for condemnation.

“She won’t be targeted. We’re going to target those people who had her picture on the Twin Towers,” Clyburn said. “This resolution is going to be inclusive; it’s going to be expansive; and I might just try to add something to deal with that billboard that’s up in Pennsylvania this morning calling John Lewis and other members of the Congressional Black Caucus racists.”

As Washington Free Beacon writer Alex Griswold pointed out, it’s contradictory to say the resolution is “expansive” and not intended to go after Omar specifically, but to also say it’s going to “target” certain groups.

It's wonderful. The mob is turning on itself so fast. I just hope this doesn't peak too early.

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Quote:What we're learning here is that the concepts of 4GW apply to rhetoric as well as war. "Racism" is effective because it is based on a perception of societally punching down. But Jews can no longer effectively play the victim game in a multiethnic empire where they are the most powerful identity group among the ruling elite. That is why the accusations of "anti-semitism" are still effective with white Baby Boomers but have no effect whatsoever on rival immigrant populations and younger US citizens.

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Now Jihadi Omar is turning on Obama. It's great!

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I don't see imploding, I see a lot of energetic young politicians making names for themselves and changing the conversation.

I don't like Jihadi Omar, I think she and every other "refugee" in her home state need deported. But she just called out AIPAC and not only lived, but emerged even stronger from it.

Names like AOC, Yang, and now Omar are pushing forward new policies, changing opinions, and winning huge amounts of battlespace in the war for American minds. Outside Donald Trump, who are their republican party equivalents?

I am hugely into politics and can name exactly one young Republican politician, and that's Dan "I lost an eye in the middle east, and so should you!" Crenshaw. His big policy position is that we need an eternal war in the middle east to keep nebulous "terrorists" out of the homeland. What a bold, big idea. And beyond him, it's a total wasteland. I can't think of a single politican's name.
And the pundits are just as bad. What's Candice Owen's big idea? "Dems are the real racists?"

Where are the Republican ideas? Where are the people who are going to push them? We're about halfway through Trumpism, assuming he wins re-election, and not a single person has appeared to carry on the torch.

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Nor will they.

The GOP is truly the party of bought-and-paid-for empty suits just like my Australian conservative party The LNP. They exist to quietly attend to the oligarchy's wishes and balance the budget (tax us to fuck) after the Democrats and Labour/Greens (respectively) spend up big to smash the cultural battering ram into the West for 8 years at a time.

If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face and then swapping with the boot on the other foot in 8 year shifts - forever.

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Jesus Christ you guys are toxic. You're seriously reminding me of PUAhate right now in your attitude.

You really have no idea just how weak the leftist coalition is. And now, the mob is turning on itself.

Omar has no "ideas." None. Just the standard SJW nonsense. She just happens to not view Jews as a victim group but that's been happening for decades. And believe me she didn't emerge stronger from it. She just exposed the cracks in her coalition. You think that's going to get over with those older Jewish voters in south Florida? Gillum went somewhat the same route and look what happened to him.

Cortez does have some new stuff but it's crazy and never going to get over with the general public. In fact, most of the stuff the Democrats push is unpopular. Having "ideas" doesn't mean shit unless there's a market for them.

In the midterms, the most "progressive" candidates almost always lost. The people that won those GOP districts were by and large middle of the road traditional Democrats. The Cortez-Omar wing of the party cannot win in red or purple states.

Candace isn't so much an innovator as she is a seller. She's making the old "Dems are the real racists" cool in ways other people have failed to do because they suck at communicating and don't even try to speak to that community. And it's a wise move. Trump won 8% of the black vote last time. Increase that by 4 points and it's mathematically impossible for Democrats to win. They know this which is why they constantly have to bring up identity politics and try to create the victim/oppressor dialectic. With Trump's approval rate among minorities getting stronger, we may be seeing results.

But I know everything here will be met with some snarky response right now so whatever.

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Internet =/= real life

The Democrat party is split. Whoever is selected as the nominee will leave the rest of the factions butthurt and pulling another Bernie 2.0. None of the moderate/classic liberals are going to support Occasionally Coherent or her camel fucking counterpart.

Conversely even as "reasonable" as Yang is (I don't agree with him on UBI as that's prevalent in our society in other ways) he has no cool or masculine factor to him. You vote for Obama because he's cool, you vote for Trump because he was the maverick that was supposed to tear everything up with decades of being branded as a rich tycoon. Besides he looks to be about 5'9'' in this picture with him next to Obama who's 6'1''. I couldn't even find information about his height. Voters will just make up some excuse about not voting for him when in reality it's a mix of things.

https://nextshark.com/andrew-yang-first-...president/

I still standby my prediction that Trump will win reelection. He isn't perfect but given his track record, a weak Democrat party, and incumbency he should win. Maybe he will start to accelerate his agenda or maybe he really has thrown in the towel.

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(03-09-2019 08:26 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Trump won 8% of the black vote last time. Increase that by 4 points and it's mathematically impossible for Democrats to win.
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But I know everything here will be met with some snarky response right now so whatever.

Well let me indulge you, since I keep hearing that "if Trump gets X% of the black vote it's mathematically impossible for Democrats to win", which honestly sounds like a bunch of Q-anon fantasies.

First of all, African Americans are only 12.6% of USA population. If you have 8% of their votes, that means you have 1.008% of the overall vote. If that share increased to having 12% of their votes, then you would have a staggering 1.512% of the overall vote for a total increase of 0.504% nationwide. Half a percentage point. That's less than a statistical error!

Secondly, African Americans are not a monolithic block whose votes are better than others. African Americans are distributed in a specific pattern throughout USA, and many of them are stuck in either Democrat (Washington D.C.) or Republican (Mississippi) strongholds where such an increase will have no effect whatsoever. Only a few (North Carolina, Virginia) are actual battleground states, but even there African Americans are just 20-25% of the population. That means that increasing the voter share from 8% to 12% will increase the overall result in that state by an incredible... 1%. Again, it's less than a statistical error.

Thirdly, if we're throwing out such projections, then we have to assume that it works both ways. We can also say, "If Cuckerberg manages to censor enough Facebook accounts to reduce Trump's white vote by 2%, it's mathematically impossible for Republicans to win". We can make predictions such as "If a fake hate crime against Latino immigrants reduces Trump's Latino vote by 4%, it's mathematically impossible for Republicans to win". In other words, there are millions of possibilities out there and we have no way of knowing which of them will actually happen and what their effect will be.

Conclusion: It's absurd to claim that any single political event makes any result "mathematically impossible"; in fact, the phrase "mathematically impossible" is so cringeworthy that it ought to be banned.

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(03-09-2019 08:26 AM)Libertas Wrote:  Jesus Christ you guys are toxic. You're seriously reminding me of PUAhate right now in your attitude.

You really have no idea just how weak the leftist coalition is. And now, the mob is turning on itself.

Omar has no "ideas." None. Just the standard SJW nonsense. She just happens to not view Jews as a victim group but that's been happening for decades. And believe me she didn't emerge stronger from it. She just exposed the cracks in her coalition. You think that's going to get over with those older Jewish voters in south Florida? Gillum went somewhat the same route and look what happened to him.

Cortez does have some new stuff but it's crazy and never going to get over with the general public. In fact, most of the stuff the Democrats push is unpopular. Having "ideas" doesn't mean shit unless there's a market for them.

In the midterms, the most "progressive" candidates almost always lost. The people that won those GOP districts were by and large middle of the road traditional Democrats. The Cortez-Omar wing of the party cannot win in red or purple states.

Candace isn't so much an innovator as she is a seller. She's making the old "Dems are the real racists" cool in ways other people have failed to do because they suck at communicating and don't even try to speak to that community. And it's a wise move. Trump won 8% of the black vote last time. Increase that by 4 points and it's mathematically impossible for Democrats to win. They know this which is why they constantly have to bring up identity politics and try to create the victim/oppressor dialectic. With Trump's approval rate among minorities getting stronger, we may be seeing results.

But I know everything here will be met with some snarky response right now so whatever.


What's toxic here is the kind of manipulative articles like the one above from the Federalist, a cuckservative equivalent of HuffPost, telling us that pointing out that Capitol Hill is zionist occupied territory amounts to "hating Jews".

The Federalist is run by Ben Domenech, whose chunky hubby Meghan McCain literally sobbed on The View because Omar is such a horrible antisemite, bawling about how she feared for the Jews, thus preserving the long-standing family tradition of shilling for Israel. Grandpa John McCain Sr. covered up for the massacre of unarmed US sailors in Our Greatest Ally's assault on the USS Liberty.

It's not about "ideas" with Omar, it's about having a member of the House that dares to touch the Third Rail of Capitol Hill as zionist occupied territory, something which no member of the House has even dared come close in decades.

The great majority of Black Americans will side with Omar here, they will view Candace as a token uncle Tom figure, hating on their oppressed sista. It's silly to expect any traction from this amng Blacks. That's why Pelosi has been trying to limit the Omar bashing in her ranks.

Candace is more about making cuck Boomers feel good about themselves, than about reaching minorities, same with Malkin. She's not looking to convert any of her brothers and sisters to the cause here, she's only zio-virtue signaling for shekels.

And Jewish voters aren't going to switch to Trump, only 19% voted for him in 2016, they will vote again en masse against the tiki-torch white supremascists in the red hats, no amount of Trump moving embassies is going to change that.

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Libertas should just tell us if he likes America being Israel's war golem and debt-bux spigot. There's no point trying to apply rational thinking to him if he's happy with 2% of the population apparently having a total lock on everything that happens in DC. If he prefers the status quo being "Israel first" then he can be dealt with as such.

Can Libertas say these simple words?

"The Jewish 2% of the population command a wildly disproportionate amount of power in DC that should not exist by any reasonable standard for a representative democracy."

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Nothing Omar said or tweeted was remotely antisemitic. AIPAC is not above criticism. Israel is not above criticism. Especially not mild criticism. Period. End of story. Nothing on this planet is above criticism. If Jews are so butthurt they can go back to Israel.

As for the black vote, we've seen no improvement over two elections. If Trump was going to have an impact with his CivNat message we would've seen it by now. They're not being converted, not now, not ever. Which is besides the point that the GOP and Republicans do not explicitly cater to whites as a demographic despite so much bitching from people that they do exactly that and if only they would give minorities some attention votes would start flipping.

I am white and have never been personally courted by the Republican party. Yet I have loyally voted for them in every election so far. I sat there, with my brain, looked at the issues I care about and the positions of the political parties on those issues and then made a decision. I also listened to the members of the parties and found Democrats to be completely and utterly insufferable cultural marxists. All by myself.
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(02-13-2019 10:02 AM)Nonpareil Wrote:  [Image: 9k71e35sg7g21.png]

I know the whole "Chelsea is ugly" narrative is overused, but...

Seriously. Look at her. Can you imagine for a second that Bill and Hillary were actually in love when they conceived this poor girl? Nope.

You can tell a lot about a couple's lives by how ugly their kids are. People who are smart, happy, and sexy produce great looking kids. They choose a mate based on good genetics (it's all about smell), and they have great sex, and those two factors combine to make attractive offspring.

With a kid this ugly, it has to have been a forced marriage of some sort. Probably Bill chose Hillary despite the fact that he was sexually repulsed by her (they were not a good genetic match). That's why their child is ugly.

Either that or it's not genetically Bill's kid at all, Hillary used the random sperm from some stranger. That's why Lesbians are so bad for society. They use a turkey baster and get poorly matched sperm, and bingo, you've got a bunch of poor stunted Chelseas running around.
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She had a ton of work done. Look at her teenage pictures. She is Webster Hubble.
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Commies always turn on themselves. When the things don't go as promised, and with an ideology based on envy this is always, they start looking for scapegoats. The traditional role of that is usually reserved for the Jews. The Russian Jews had to find that the hard way with the rise of Stalin and his purges. Looks like American Jews will also have to find that out the same way. At least some are now sounding the alarm.
Of course, the leftists and other Intellectuals Yet Idiots, may identify the problem correctly, but may fail horribly solving it. It remains to be seen if they would vote Republican.

Jewish voters are furious at Dems’ defense of Ilhan Omar

Quote:“We felt we had a home there,” said Mark Schwartz, the Democratic deputy mayor of solidly blue Teaneck, NJ. “And now we feel like we have to check our passports.”

Jordan Manor of Manhattan, who calls himself a “gay Jewish Israeli-American,” laments, “The party I thought cared about me seems to disregard me when it comes to my Jewish identity.”

Mark Dunec, a consultant in Livingston, NJ who ran for Congress as a Democrat in 2014, says, “I’m physically afraid for myself and for my family,” adding, “I see my own party contributing to the rise of anti-Semitism in the United States.”

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“The watered-down resolution triggered my decision to walk away from the Democratic Party,” said Allison Gangi of Manhattan.

“I never dreamed anti-Semitism would have become mainstream on the left, but it has.”

Sara said she is “not comfortable anymore being a Democrat” and will register as an independent.

Among his Teaneck neighbors, Schwartz said, “Our only question now is, do we start voting Republican, or do we become Republicans?”

I'm rather cynical.

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Quote:“I’m homeless. I don’t think I can vote for Trump, even though he’s great for Israel,” said Jason, a start-up owner from Long Island who asked that his surname not be used. “But as a Jew, I can’t see a way to support the Democratic Party. It’s supporting your own destruction.”

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Of course these people don't have the self-awareness to realize the Dem party is mostly funded by wealthy jews. Another case of the snake biting its own tail.

File this in the monstrous folder titled "Jewish oblivion to their own behavior from antiquity to the present".
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