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No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
(01-01-2019 08:43 AM)curious_goat Wrote:  Just FYI, this thread is being discussed on the /r/SemenRetion sub: https://www.reddit.com/r/Semenretention/...ing_semen/

The female attraction you will experience from semen retention is very real - sometimes alarming. Tho the benefits of semen retention go far beyond...

Men have practiced it naturally as a way of life, going back thousands of years. Only in recent times we have lost touch. Few men see the importance of retaining our life energies.

It's a nonsense though, otherwise nobody would ever have sex.
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
I stopped about 10 days ago just to try it out and I've noticed a difference myself.

I think semen only being expelled through release with a woman is far different than it being released by your own hand...and we've all talked about how women can just kind of tell when other women are interested in you.
04-10-2019 08:09 AM
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
The whole nutrients and semen retention thing is broscience.
If you have a porn/jerking addiction then sure try out nofap as a way to discipline yourself and motivate you to go out there and game
The idea of going 90+ days and thinking that's a healthy way to live seems crazy to me.
04-10-2019 08:13 AM
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
Complete broscience and belief bias to whomever saying women can sniff it out, so to speak.
I`m not saying its unhealthy and you should do no-fap for its benefits though.
IIRC it takes something like 9-12 days to fill up to max sperm volume.
Take it from someone who did 6 months of this years ago and spare your discipline for other areas.
04-10-2019 09:46 AM
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
So for the guy who has options only every 30 days or so, like someone working remotely , how does he stay in practice for quicker "reload time" for those times he gets into town for a weekend fuck fest?

Should he tard multiple times a couple weeks before to reduce latency periods between erections? I know after a long dry spell the first time you fire off at the slightest touch and by the third time your endurance is better...

I do know when I come off of a weekend of fucking women seem to be drawn to me. I'm also bolder..
04-10-2019 12:44 PM
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
Testosterone spikes after 7 days of no fap, so the 8th day it peaks. Women do pick up on higher testosterone levels, probably through pheromones, and you yourself will also start signaling different, more attractive behaviour and most likely pick up on female attraction sooner. When you jerk off, testosterone goes down completely. When you fuck a girl, it doesn't or at least not nearly as much.

Now what would be interesting to know how certain things affect these established dynamics. For instance, you jerk off but don't come, I think it's called edging. You will get hornier a lot faster. is this due to testosterone increase? What about synthetic pheromones, many people report they work, but it is inconclusive so far it seems. Difficult thing to test since all people have different preferences and a different pheromone mix. If you don't believe in some effect, I suggest you do some sports and then walk around right after sweating hard and watch the fuck me looks from girls nearby (unless you are ugly as fuck).
04-10-2019 04:32 PM
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
The other angle to consider is that if you haven't unloaded for some time, you are going to be desperate for some pussy.

While "being bolder" may happen, its a risk you will also be more desperate, more needy, more invested and more likely to fuck an easy 4 than game a possible 7

Cracking the handle before going out gives me a relaxed, DGAF attitude, that I can take or leave a bitches cunty behavior mid hunt, rather than fail her shit tests for a sniff of that pussy out of desperation.

Something to consider.
04-10-2019 04:50 PM
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
So if you nofap for 7 days and then keep it going does your testosterone permanently stay at that higher level until sex/ejaculation?
04-10-2019 09:27 PM
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
19 days, I'm counting each individual day now. Holy fuck. My productivity is through the roof. I see IOIs, but who knows. Going out of the house, every girl I see it's like I'm at a female buffet and just soaking it in. I'm scheming. For my next night out.

With obligatory, "it could be a placebo."

But seriously, I'm gonna do a shitload of sets this weekend. There's no other way at this point.

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(04-10-2019 09:27 PM)a mans life Wrote:  So if you nofap for 7 days and then keep it going does your testosterone permanently stay at that higher level until sex/ejaculation?

It goes down again, but I don't know where the sweet spot is then. But based on testosterone only, it wouldn't be good to stay on no fap for very long times, unless you are fucking on the regular. More detailed research is needed.
04-11-2019 08:29 AM
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I am on day 94 and I have been approaching every weekend. I've had a few positive interactions but I haven't noticed any "IOIs" or anything.
04-11-2019 11:09 AM
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no fap = hyper excitement = PE
04-11-2019 01:00 PM
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(04-10-2019 11:05 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  19 days, I'm counting each individual day now. Holy fuck. My productivity is through the roof. I see IOIs, but who knows. Going out of the house, every girl I see it's like I'm at a female buffet and just soaking it in. I'm scheming. For my next night out.

With obligatory, "it could be a placebo."

But seriously, I'm gonna do a shitload of sets this weekend. There's no other way at this point.

My productivity...same.

Although one problem I didn't anticipate...I think almost all women are hitting on me. Maybe I'm just not used to the increased confidence and feeling-like-a-stallion thing, I'll get used to it.
04-11-2019 05:35 PM
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(04-11-2019 05:35 PM)stugatz Wrote:  
(04-10-2019 11:05 PM)Heuristics Wrote:  19 days, I'm counting each individual day now. Holy fuck. My productivity is through the roof. I see IOIs, but who knows. Going out of the house, every girl I see it's like I'm at a female buffet and just soaking it in. I'm scheming. For my next night out.

With obligatory, "it could be a placebo."

But seriously, I'm gonna do a shitload of sets this weekend. There's no other way at this point.

My productivity...same.

Although one problem I didn't anticipate...I think almost all women are hitting on me. Maybe I'm just not used to the increased confidence and feeling-like-a-stallion thing, I'll get used to it.

Completely in you're head.
04-12-2019 10:43 AM
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
I think the problem is not masturbation but PMO.
Last time i did nofap for 4 days and then i had to ejaculate after 5 minutes, if not lesser than that.
When I am with a regular girl, fapping every two days moreless is not a problema. It keeps my dick activated.
When dating initialy or just picking up a girl before fucking her, nofapping could help me to keep the initial desire.
Problem is also when someone masturbates toó much that lowers his energy. Problem is bad equilibrium.
04-15-2019 10:49 AM
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I've been on no porn for over 4 months and nofap for at least 2 months. The urge to watch porn has faded and I think I've given it up for good. However, if it wasn't that I have two weekly casuals, I'm not sure I could do nofap for long.

Trying to perservere though because, either from "deathgrip" or something, my sensitivity is low for my age causing me both ED and PE usually both on the same night. I can already see improvement in both, but that could just be because I've finally eased up from my performance anxiety a little.

if you have or had bad habits when fapping, then fapping can also cause PE which was definitely the case for me. If you gonna do it, do it right.
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RE: No-fap and female attraction: Leverage your game to the hilt
PERSONALLY I gave up fapping...I was a non believer but the first time I went 3 weeks without it EVERYTHING felt great, more energy, better sex, more looks etc (I talk about it in the no fap thread)

I relapsed due to depression (My girl at the time did some really evil shit) and tried No fap again 40+ days ago. This time I went the first 20 or so days without sex at all, I felt like a horny animal and I LOVED IT. Finally I met a new girl that rocked my world, and the sex is great. I feel every little detail and I feel more Carnal and animal like (which she loves).

Besides that the difference In this cycle is the fact that girls have taken notice to me. I mean it very noticeable, women have flirted more, been nervous around me, have asked me out, have tried to keep conversations flowing etc. I've kept the same weight, kept the same style of clothing, pretty much been the same person.

BUT THE BIGGEST difference is my mental state. I've been battling depression since I started the forum, but after starting nofap again, the depression pretty much went away. April should have easily been the worse month o my life but it was relatvely calm for me. I don't know if i'm in shock but instead of sadness, depression and other similar emotions, I've felt calmness, confidence and certain levels of anger and rage to event that would have otherwise sent me close to tears. I used the struggle with sleep, often pondering hours and hours on my regrets and fears. Now I sleep with ease. I will talk more about this in the No fap thread.


Also I apologize for my horrible grammar.
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So I started 30 days of discipline about a week ago. Seven days without porn or masturbating was very new to me. But, combined with all of the other little things I was doing (practicing perfect posture, understanding the concept of "toxic shame"), I was noticing a LOT more female attention. From more eye contact, girls looking at me in the gym, being noticed more, getting "vibes" from waitresses, to finally reconnecting with an old plate I haven't seen in years.

Weird thing though, is after I busted with the chick twice and went on my way, the next day I felt kind of depressed. It may not be connected with the ejaculation, but the power difference pre and post-nut was pretty noticeable.

I think "proud" is the most apt word to describe how I've been feeling lately. I'm proud of not succumbing to PMO, and proud of all the other little things that 30 days of discipline makes me do. I'm looking in the mirror lately and liking the person that I am, more and more. Especially because I ended an LTR a few weeks ago when the girl severely disrespected me, tried to negotiate one of my non-negotiables so I took my ball and went home. If I would have forgiven her transgression, no way could I be happy or proud of myself. I'd feel like a bitch. But the dude I look at in the mirror is a man of his word. Even though I was madly in love, the girl crossed a boundary, so I had to keep my word. Otherwise I wouldn't respect myself and neither would she.

Anyway, went off on a tangent there. I won't be seeing that old plate again for a month or so, so it'll be no ejaculating or porn viewing for at least 3 more weeks, to complete the 30 days of discipline. I think there is definitely something to this.

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