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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
(05-23-2019 01:23 AM)copperwire Wrote:  
(06-11-2016 10:35 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I think a better question is: why does the Netherlands get overlooked?

So many tall, blonde beauties everywhere. I remember reading that the two countries with a disproportionate number of supermodels per capita are Brazil and the Netherlands.

(05-02-2016 07:08 PM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  I think the reason Germany gets overlooked by the pickup community is because western men have been conditioned by the media to go for a certain style of woman which is more in tune with what is found in Eastern Europe or Russia. That is, slender, feminine, big breasted. I like it that German women have deeper voices, broader shoulders and reasonably big asses.. Not sure if I'm the only one who prefers women less feminine and girly. I think the English speaking world doesn't really understand the place or its people and is slightly intimidated by it after the war.

Pink elephant in the room.

Guys who have to travel to get laid have low/below average SMV generally. Therefore, they're going to travel to countries and regions where they are relatively high SMV because they're from a 1st world country. Therefore, SE Asia, Central and South America will be popular. If Europe, then poorer Eastern European countries not northern or western.

1st world countries with conventionally hot European women will be avoided because this segment of guys can't compete (they couldn't compete in their own home 1st world country; why would they bother with the hassle and expense of traveling or moving to another 1st world country only to get rejected systematically all over again).

The hatred of white/European women is real. It's just rationalizing the reality of their inability to compete.

Agree, but since the hypergamy rocket shot up into the stratosphere with the launch of social media apps over 5 years ago, most guys can't make the grade with decent-looking women in Western countries. To turn around and just say to these guys, "It's just sour grapes you can't bang hotties like me - you're a loser" is to fail to see the red elephant in the room: hypergamy unchained and on steroids, thrashing about in the china shop causing societal mayhem.

If a guy doesn't make the cut, what's he to do after he's looks-maxed and all? I have no time for a guy who just makes excuses without undertaking any serious effort towards self-improvement, but that's not what we're really talking about here. In countries such as the UK, the minimum looks bar has increased so much in recent years that many guys are going to be fucked whatever they undertake, so don't hate on them for wanting to go to a part of the world - call it "Third World" if you like - where the SMP has a semlance of balance to it and where the deck isn't completely stacked against them.

Also, ask yourself: Why do pick-up coaches invariably take jaunts to locations in central/eastern Europe, rather tour the cities in their own Western nations? If even guys seasoned in the crimson arts feel it's not worth the ROI, then this principle must surely apply even more so in the case of guys of average-to-lower SMV.
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
(05-26-2019 05:56 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  
(05-23-2019 01:23 AM)copperwire Wrote:  
(06-11-2016 10:35 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I think a better question is: why does the Netherlands get overlooked?

So many tall, blonde beauties everywhere. I remember reading that the two countries with a disproportionate number of supermodels per capita are Brazil and the Netherlands.

(05-02-2016 07:08 PM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  I think the reason Germany gets overlooked by the pickup community is because western men have been conditioned by the media to go for a certain style of woman which is more in tune with what is found in Eastern Europe or Russia. That is, slender, feminine, big breasted. I like it that German women have deeper voices, broader shoulders and reasonably big asses.. Not sure if I'm the only one who prefers women less feminine and girly. I think the English speaking world doesn't really understand the place or its people and is slightly intimidated by it after the war.

Pink elephant in the room.

Guys who have to travel to get laid have low/below average SMV generally. Therefore, they're going to travel to countries and regions where they are relatively high SMV because they're from a 1st world country. Therefore, SE Asia, Central and South America will be popular. If Europe, then poorer Eastern European countries not northern or western.

1st world countries with conventionally hot European women will be avoided because this segment of guys can't compete (they couldn't compete in their own home 1st world country; why would they bother with the hassle and expense of traveling or moving to another 1st world country only to get rejected systematically all over again).

The hatred of white/European women is real. It's just rationalizing the reality of their inability to compete.

Agree, but since the hypergamy rocket shot up into the stratosphere with the launch of social media apps over 5 years ago, most guys can't make the grade with decent-looking women in Western countries.

But how can we now it? It's impossible to pool data to draw conclusions regarding sexual activity frequency across society by some sparse observations and anecdotal evidence - not least due to geographic, age, and social strata differences. Polled data suggest there is less sex, on average, going on (I didn't read the surveys or research papers regarding the studies, so don't know the methodology but assume the scientists' integrity and objectivity). Here's the article: Why Millennials Are Having Less Sex.
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
This article is Nonsense. 18 war olds nowadays are heavier sluts than 14 years Ago when I was 18
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
Every kind of game works in Germany. I have a medium SMV and struggle a lot due to my height. Nevertheless it is possible to meet girls with every kind of game. But you really need to do a lot of approaches because you are rather her type or completely not. My best experiences are in that order: 1. Direct Daygame for hottest girls - If she is single / is not dating or fucking someone else 2. Night Game for mediocre chicks but open to quick sex 3. Online for some hot which are often mentally completely fucked up 4. Social Circle for mediocre girls

Nothing to add that the overall personalitys are boring and cold. Especially the hotter she is the more cold she is. And getting a girl in the 7+ scale is really pain in the ass if you don't fall into their type as Kirdisel described it perfectly

Fortunately there are many foreigners in the big cities
05-26-2019 03:12 PM
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
(05-26-2019 02:48 PM)Naughty_Boy Wrote:  This article is Nonsense. 18 war olds nowadays are heavier sluts than 14 years Ago when I was 18

The article isn't nonsense. There are some 18 year olds who are promiscuous, but many are excluded from the sexual world. Also cause men are getting worse and worse at socializing. Why do you think there are more and more PUA companies stacking cash?
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
Appreciate the banter here fellas.

In spite of what’s going on with Roosh’s new rules I am leaving the forum and will be no longer contributing my intel.

I have long been planning to leave Germany anyway and am starting to turn my business in that direction in the coming weeks.

I have NO idea when I’ll leave but it does look like the next step for me is going to be NL.

NL mostly due to business and partly because of the women.

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05-27-2019 12:12 AM
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
Are German girls known for having big butts?

*puts on list*
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
Germans are the sloppiest dressed women I have every seen, even beating American. They got aroused if their guy buys them a pair of Jack Wolfskin waterproof trousers
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
(05-27-2019 07:28 AM)BasketBounce Wrote:  Are German girls known for having big butts?

*puts on list*

You are going to the right place for big butts. Dutch girls are more gifted in that area than German women.

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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
(05-27-2019 08:06 AM)BangBoy123 Wrote:  Germans are the sloppiest dressed women I have every seen, even beating American.

They got aroused if their guy buys them a pair of Jack Wolfskin waterproof trousers

Laugh

Ain't that the truth!
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
(05-26-2019 05:56 AM)Feldeinsamkeit Wrote:  
(05-23-2019 01:23 AM)copperwire Wrote:  
(06-11-2016 10:35 AM)Pokerbaby Wrote:  I think a better question is: why does the Netherlands get overlooked?

So many tall, blonde beauties everywhere. I remember reading that the two countries with a disproportionate number of supermodels per capita are Brazil and the Netherlands.

(05-02-2016 07:08 PM)Stadtaffe Wrote:  I think the reason Germany gets overlooked by the pickup community is because western men have been conditioned by the media to go for a certain style of woman which is more in tune with what is found in Eastern Europe or Russia. That is, slender, feminine, big breasted. I like it that German women have deeper voices, broader shoulders and reasonably big asses.. Not sure if I'm the only one who prefers women less feminine and girly. I think the English speaking world doesn't really understand the place or its people and is slightly intimidated by it after the war.

Pink elephant in the room.

Guys who have to travel to get laid have low/below average SMV generally. Therefore, they're going to travel to countries and regions where they are relatively high SMV because they're from a 1st world country. Therefore, SE Asia, Central and South America will be popular. If Europe, then poorer Eastern European countries not northern or western.

1st world countries with conventionally hot European women will be avoided because this segment of guys can't compete (they couldn't compete in their own home 1st world country; why would they bother with the hassle and expense of traveling or moving to another 1st world country only to get rejected systematically all over again).

The hatred of white/European women is real. It's just rationalizing the reality of their inability to compete.

Agree, but since the hypergamy rocket shot up into the stratosphere with the launch of social media apps over 5 years ago, most guys can't make the grade with decent-looking women in Western countries. To turn around and just say to these guys, "It's just sour grapes you can't bang hotties like me - you're a loser" is to fail to see the red elephant in the room: hypergamy unchained and on steroids, thrashing about in the china shop causing societal mayhem.

If a guy doesn't make the cut, what's he to do after he's looks-maxed and all? I have no time for a guy who just makes excuses without undertaking any serious effort towards self-improvement, but that's not what we're really talking about here. In countries such as the UK, the minimum looks bar has increased so much in recent years that many guys are going to be fucked whatever they undertake, so don't hate on them for wanting to go to a part of the world - call it "Third World" if you like - where the SMP has a semlance of balance to it and where the deck isn't completely stacked against them.

Also, ask yourself: Why do pick-up coaches invariably take jaunts to locations in central/eastern Europe, rather tour the cities in their own Western nations? If even guys seasoned in the crimson arts feel it's not worth the ROI, then this principle must surely apply even more so in the case of guys of average-to-lower SMV.

I'm not hating on the guys. I'm pointing out that they are hating on hot German women. They are delusional. Look at how idiotic the comments are: it's clearly compensatory behavior due to their lack of success.

This leads me to suspect that they don't find foreign women attractive at all: it's just rationalizing because they have to settle.

I doubt foreign women in SE Asian or E Europe are as traditional as some of these guys like to believe. There's little doubt they are spending out of their ass and are getting milked until there's nothing left. Traveling thousands of miles to get bilked is a non starter for me.
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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
(05-26-2019 01:50 AM)Fogg Wrote:  What I find interesting is that no one in this thread seems to talk about daygame. It is either "tinder sucks if you are not a model" or "can't pull in clubs if you are not a model" which is both kind of true.
But honestly, how is that not true for most western countries?

Isn't that exactly the reason why people started daygame in the west? To game hotter girls, that do not do online dating or night clubs, without even having to worry about competition.

Because in some countries, such as… let me think for a sec... OH YES such as Germany or Spain, crazy feminists are in power. Check news of other countries before you make the mistake of your life expecting to "have some latin fun": https://www.elmundo.es/espana/2019/06/23...b4698.html

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RE: Why does Germany get overlooked?
It seems that's what everyone says about Europe in general. It seems like Europe is a completely female dominated sexual market. This is why my interest in that area of the world is decreasing everyday I come on this forum.
06-23-2019 06:16 PM
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