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(03-16-2017 07:44 PM)Nowak Wrote:  
(03-16-2017 06:23 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(03-16-2017 05:07 PM)911 Wrote:  He's not exactly of Indonesian stock though, his mother from a Jewish family established in Indonesia, His wife is Jewish too. He's lived in Israel, is funded by AIPAC insiders and has close ties with Israeli intelligence.

https://www.rt.com/news/369217-geert-wil...influence/

He was born and baptized a catholic no?

Still seems like a good guy even if jewish, perhaps just not really effective.

He's certainly not a conventional populist in Europe. His father hid from the Germans during WW2 and refused to enter the country even 40 years later. His wife is Indeed Jewish but Hungarian,so most likely identifies as a Maygyar before a Jew.

I feel bad for the man,he has many supporters but will be
the man who walks alone. His nation is too fallen to be saved.
The whole thing is really depressing.
If I was Geert, I'd move to Hungary with my wife
and retire in the countryside or make Aliya in Israel
and go into politics there.

You sure about that? Laugh

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At least unlike the snowflakes she has a good excuse for overeating - constant stress from their family being bombarded with death threats from tolerant moderate Muslims...

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Big news:

Formation between VVD, CDA, D66 and GroenLinks (GreenLeft) just failed on the migration issue.

GroenLinks is played out for now. VVD and CDA stand for stricter immigration. Now VVD, CDA and D66 have to look for another majority.
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So, what's going to happen now? Anyone have a clue?
05-17-2017 08:31 AM
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(05-17-2017 08:31 AM)Rossi Wrote:  So, what's going to happen now? Anyone have a clue?

Likely the next negotiations will be with the Christian Union. So treehuggers will be replaced by a christian party. They only have a very small majority if they will form a government though, only 76, so they are not too happy with that. This is because in the past years there have always been breakaways from a party, meaning you lose the majority.

But there was a debate today, and this is the only viable option at the moment.
05-17-2017 12:26 PM
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Christian Union is the more leftist Christian party.

Pvda, the labour party, is leftist of course but I prefer pvda or Christian union to groenlinks. The best would be pvda I think.
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Sill no coalition. First they tried with Treehuggers and then with Christian Union, that failed. They started talking 'informally' with Treehuggers again but it's blown off again. That's good news for now at least.
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This week I expect the new government to be there. VVD led coalition with CDA, D66 and CU.

On here probably seen as europhiles, but believe me it is much better to have VVD/CDA/D66/CU than to have a coalition of leftists. I have confidence that they can get some good things done.
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It's been half a year and there's still no government? WTF? Who's running the country all this time?

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(10-09-2017 04:13 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  It's been half a year and there's still no government? WTF? Who's running the country all this time?

The civil service.

The Netherlands isn't breaking new ground here. After the 2010 election in Belgium, it took a year and a half before a new government could be formed.

Read James Burnham's The Managerial Revolution. Ever since the 1930's, legislatures have been losing power to executives, corporations, and government bureaucracies like the NSA. That's why Congress is seemingly impotent in the face of the president's power in the U.S. (see: all the times Obama turkey-slapped the GOP even though they held the House and later the Senate).

Legislatures basically exist to rubber-stamp the decisions that the civil service (which is left-wing and seeks to increase its own power) has already made. The E.U. Parliament openly operates on this principle: elected MEPs can't propose new laws or repeal existing ones, only debate on laws that have already been decided by the bureaucracy. That's how the Netherlands can function without a government, and why a reformer like Geert Wilders would face an uphill battle even if they could win control of the government.

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(10-09-2017 04:13 AM)Handsome Creepy Eel Wrote:  It's been half a year and there's still no government? WTF? Who's running the country all this time?

The same cabinet as before, but without their majority in the parliament. It is called a demissionary cabinet. They can still run the country, but without the automatic majority support of the parliament.
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There it is! The King (in the middle, light blue) presents the new cabinet 'Rutte III'.
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I believe the woman in yellow is the new Minister of Defense. The latter was also a woman, who had to give up her position only a few weeks ago. because of mistakes in Mali. At least the new one is the daughter of a military man.

You can also see the strange expression of the prime minister, left of the King.

It is a cabinet of cuckservatives, as well as an even more europhile party (D66).

At least the left hates this cabinet, as socialism plays a marginal role in the new government.
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^No ethnic diversity in the government: a sea of White faces, so as to appease native voters' fears: "See, White people are still in charge of their native countries, all European politicians are White. So why the fear, White voters, if all government members are White? You won't be replaced, islamized or double-crossed by your own brothers, surely!?".

Like the socialist SJW French government, look at them: not one Black man within them, not one to be seen (same thing is noticeable in the National Assembly). Meanwhile, 20% of the population is now Afro-descendant, 30% among the young... But let's hide this fact by showing 100% of Christian (or occasionally Jewish) Whites in the government and on TV...
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Did it take 7 months to form a new government? This country is even more shithole than I thought it is.
10-30-2017 09:28 PM
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^^^ Over the past few days I have been re-watching WW2 in Color on Netflix and what shocks me the most is how masculine Europe used to be only less than a century ago. Nations had huge armies and large navies with massive warships. Compare that with today, especially when you repeatedly see glorified Kindergarten teachers being appointed as defense ministers.

This will all end in tears. Another 20 years of this shit and there won't be much left of what once was Europe. And unlike after WW2 the changes will be irreversible.

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I dunno, I just spent most of last week in Amsterdam. It is full of Muslims. They're driving just about every taxi, and they're all over the place. Just from that quick visit, I'd say the place is on track for Sweden style enrichment.
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(10-30-2017 09:28 PM)Rossi Wrote:  Did it take 7 months to form a new government? This country is even more shithole than I thought it is.

Where are you from?

I wouldn't see coalition forming taking 7 months as a sign of the Netherlands being a shithole (the Netherlands has plenty of other shitty aspects though).

Not taking into account political preferences. The Netherlands is not adrift or at a standstill while a coalition is being formed. It's the Netherlands, not Italy where parties completely oppose eachother, the political spectrum in the Netherlands is not that wide. On most topics the parties are different shades of grey (2 largest exceptions are EU becoming more like a nation state, and how to deal with "refugees" and immigrants).

While a a coalition is still being formed the current/present ministers stay in office and (mostly) continue whatever they've been doing the years before, unless parlaiment tells them to do something different (which happens if parliament has shifted) or when there is something new parlaiment will negotiate/debate/vote on something. Essentially it's a cabinet without an automatic majority, so they tend to run things based on common ground among the middle of the spectrum in parlaiment.
Some of the best decisions of the past 20 years have been while the cabinet had a minority coalition or a the cabinet had lost their coalition. Because parties come to agreement on 1 single (or maybe tied up to 1 more) point versus making a grand deal for 4 years on (almost) every topic.
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Meanwhile in NL:
There is a child party (related to Santa Clause) in the Netherlands called Sinterklaas. He has black 'painted' helpers, (Zwarte Piet) which is protested against by several action groups.

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Protesters against these action groups blocked their bus ride towards 'the sailing in of Sinterklaas' in the Northern town of Dokkum, Friesland (Frisia). The anti Zwarte Piet protesters were too late and their permit to protest in Dokkum was withdrawn by the local municipality.

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Oh for Piet's sake...

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