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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
(04-12-2017 04:05 PM)Zona Wrote:  
(04-11-2017 08:45 PM)The Beast1 Wrote:  People on this site rag about Los Angeles and how terrible and fake it is. In my experience, people here have been astoundingly friendly. I'm married, but women have been very receptive to me. When I was here last, my experience was roughly the same. I never understood the fakeness claim and I think people who make this claim are projecting something. People are always friendly to me even though I may not see them again.

To each their own. Fly out and spend a week or two and see what it is like.

Personally, weather is probably the most important aspect of a city and Miami has it in spades.

Friendly =/= genuine. It's true that people are friendly in LA, but those friendly people often tend to be flaky and insincere. It can be very difficult to forge deeper connections with people, even if they're superficially pleasant. They might be laid back and nice to your face, but that doesn't mean that they actually like you and, in my experience, a lot of those "nice" people won't hesitate to shit on you behind your back. To that end, I totally get where the perception of fakeness comes from regarding LA because I've experienced it as well.

I hear this argument all the time and it confuses me greatly. The opposite of Los Angeles culture would be New England's where you immediately know where everyone stands with you because they're all assholes to your face until they decide to know you deeply.

I don't know about you, but i'm not needy nor do I need to spend my time around others to validate myself and who I am. I prefer a friendly , "Hey bud, how's the day going?" "Good! How about you?" "Excellent! Keep on enjoying the weather!" and just leave it at that. I have enough of my own problems to deal with and have no desire to want to dig deeper into someone else's life.

I don't have a desire to know people beyond the superficial nor do I expect them to like me and vice versa. The only person that really knows me deeply is my wife and I expect to keep it that way.

Quote:a lot of those "nice" people won't hesitate to shit on you behind your back.

Don't most people do this? I've talked shit about my friends behind their backs and i've heard shit they say about me behind my back. It's not that big a deal if you're secure in who you are and where you fall in the world.
04-12-2017 07:06 PM
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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
Tax avoidance shouldn't be a TOP priority, but if you consider that you'll potentially be working for another 20-25 years, consider what that means for a $150k yearly income. In NY, I assume you've been paying 7% so in FL or TX, you're looking at an extra $10 each year. Sure, sales tax, real estate tax, etc. can bite into this saving, but these are all things you have much more control over.

I don't need to tell you how stashing away an extra $6-8k (conservative) would do for you over that period of time.

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04-12-2017 07:26 PM
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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
(04-12-2017 07:26 PM)JohnKreese Wrote:  Tax avoidance shouldn't be a TOP priority, but if you consider that you'll potentially be working for another 20-25 years, consider what that means for a $150k yearly income. In NY, I assume you've been paying 7% so in FL or TX, you're looking at an extra $10 each year. Sure, sales tax, real estate tax, etc. can bite into this saving, but these are all things you have much more control over.

I don't need to tell you how stashing away an extra $6-8k (conservative) would do for you over that period of time.

The no state income tax bit is definitely a major reason I am strongly considering Miami. It is a tough call!
04-13-2017 07:18 PM
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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
I'd say you're at the right age to leave NYC. Unless you're rich/famous, the cons of NYC begin to outweigh the positives in your 30s.

Any metro smaller than a few million will seem claustrophobic after living in NYC. Unless you had a wife and kids, I'd say go for a bigger city with some of the amenities of NYC but without the rat race and bad weather.

I'm currently based in Dallas. Moved here a few years ago and I think it fits all your requirements. The city isn't a tourist hotspot but it does a lot of things well and has a great economy. Women here are generally friendlier and hotter than most inland cities and winters are a breeze.

I'd also vouch for Phoenix. Spent a week out there last year for a conference and was impressed. If you're into urban living downtown PHX is on the comeback and Scottdale/Tempe have potential.

Feel free to drop me a private msg if you want more info on Dallas.
04-13-2017 08:12 PM
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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
Agree with Alpone. I go to Miami a couple times a year, so by no means an expert. Head down there in late May/early June and see how you like that humidity.

Give me the dry heat and a god fearing conservative state such as AZ any day of the week. I know a guy who was a journeyman minor leaguer, let's say calling Scottsdale a party town is an understatement.
04-13-2017 09:00 PM
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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
Get out of new York. Too many people packed in a small area. Shitty winter weather.

I'd pick Miami. Sun is lotion for the soul.
04-14-2017 11:59 AM
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The humidity in Florida is so bad that there are months where during the day you want to stay in air conditioning (night is better), but that can't be any worse than Phoenix or Houston.

Golf is plentiful in Florida, but more so in the lesser cities like Jax, Orlando, etc. Fewer courses in Miami. But you have boating, etc.

Cost of living in Miami is high, and quality job opportunities are low. Generally the other cities in Florida are a better deal in that you have the same or better job opportunities but lower cost of living, mainly real estate. Real estate in South Florida is crazy high, especially relative to job opportunities. If you have something lined up where you are making more than most, then it may make sense. But I would definitely check out Dallas, Houston, Phoenix, and Atlanta.
04-15-2017 08:38 AM
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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
Why no consideration to Puerto Rico?

Completely serious here. That place is amazing and with some research you can get some awesome tax benefits out of it. You'll find and meet some incredibly friendly people, yet they are sincere and "deep" in their friendships. Quality of life there is incredible and there are PLENTY of women who are very wife-able and gf-able. Sex ratio is heavily skewed female with none of the homosexual degeneracy you find in NYC.

Please PM me to discuss specifics. It's worth considering at the very least.
04-18-2017 12:18 PM
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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
(04-15-2017 08:38 AM)Hypno Wrote:  The humidity in Florida is so bad that there are months where during the day you want to stay in air conditioning (night is better), but that can't be any worse than Phoenix...

The issue in Phoenix is that it's a dry heat. Two things about this:

1) It doesn't feel bad, you aren't sweating. You can go swimming in the relatively cool pre-dawn (and install a pool chiller if you really want to feel like a baller), wash up, stay out of the sun for the day, and go out to enjoy the nightlife at sundown without getting to the bar looking you just got dragged through a car wash. (There's no daylight savings time, so sunset is relatively early in the summer.)

2) It doesn't feel bad, you aren't sweating. You won't realize when you're in very serious trouble. People are in the news getting emergency airlifted off trails all summer, usually with a follow-up story a few hours later about how they are now deceased. The easy solution is to not try to go mountain biking in July, but some otherwise intelligent people are absolutely determined to die.

Hidey-ho, RVFerinos!
04-18-2017 12:36 PM
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RE: Relocating out of NYC at 39
(04-18-2017 12:18 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  Why no consideration to Puerto Rico?

Completely serious here. That place is amazing and with some research you can get some awesome tax benefits out of it. You'll find and meet some incredibly friendly people, yet they are sincere and "deep" in their friendships. Quality of life there is incredible and there are PLENTY of women who are very wife-able and gf-able. Sex ratio is heavily skewed female with none of the homosexual degeneracy you find in NYC.

Please PM me to discuss specifics. It's worth considering at the very least.

Oh, I definitely looked into it. I have a friend who used to have a solid $1.5MM a year business in San Juan, staff of 10 and a fulltime secretary. Had to shut the business down, and ended up taking a job with the Federal Government in North Carolina. The problem is my job is heavily oriented towards mortgage loan financing, and the economy there is just so bad not much of it is going on locally.

I love Puerto Rico for all the reasons you mentioned. If I had a lot of cash and a location independent job, I would definitely consider it. It's so cheap right now for such a quality of life.
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