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Woman cleared of murder after stabbing abusive boyfriend to death......."abusive"?
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Woman cleared of murder after stabbing abusive boyfriend to death......."abusive"?
From Metro in the UK

http://metro.co.uk/2017/04/27/woman-clea...h-6601895/

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A woman who stabbed her abusive partner to death with a kitchen knife in a champagne-fuelled frenzy has been cleared of his murder.

Elizabeth Hart-Browne, 27, declared ‘I have just killed the man I love’ after plunging a large kitchen knife into Stephen Rayner’s neck at their flat in Acton last September.

She denied murdering her boyfriend of six years saying she believed he was going to kill her as he had threatened to do in the past.

She has told jurors during a six-week trial that he would turn into Britain’s ‘most violent’ prisoner Charles Bronson, during attacks on her.

An Old Bailey jury deliberated for 15 hours to find the mother-of-two not guilty of murder.

A court heard how the jeweller launched the attack after returning to their flat from a party with her children sleeping just yards away.

She then staggered outside and collapsed in a pool of blood before phoning the police.

Prosecutors had claimed she could not control her emotions towards Mr Rayner and was driven by ‘paranoid jealousy’ fuelled by him using Tinder to have affairs.

Jurors heard how she had stabbed her partner twice before but still acquitted the defendant.

The mother claimed she had picked up the knife during a violent struggle and ‘forgot’ she was holding it when the blows were struck.

The couple had a history of abuse and Mr Rayner was ordered by a court to complete a domestic abuse programme after an attack outside a nightclub in 2012.

The mother told a jury she had even taken out life insurance in 2015 in the belief her partner would kill her.

But Rayner told friends that he had once had to wrestle a knife off Hart-Browne and on another occasion she had slashed his right arm.

The defendant has been held in custody since the night of the stabbing. She will now be hoping to be reunited with her children when she is released from prison.

She denied murder.
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So the way I see it, girl goes out partying, gets blind drunk, comes home, stabs boyfriend to death with kitchen knife, walks free.

No evidence of "abuse" of any kind by the fella put forward by prosecution, just "her feelings", at least he was at home looking after the kids...

This is insane.
04-27-2017 04:05 PM
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RE: Woman cleared of murder after stabbing abusive boyfriend to death......."abus...
Follow the wisdom of the ancients: Don't stick your dick in crazy.

"I'd hate myself if I had that kind of attitude, if I were that weak." - Arnold
04-28-2017 01:31 AM
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They got lucky with jury selection. These cases are hard to decipher without watching the entire trial.
04-28-2017 02:38 AM
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You have to be fucking kidding me. I remember reading this and saying she is guilty but here she is getting away with it.

Men need to stop keeping the violence from their other halfs on the down low because someday she might just plunge a large blade into you.
04-28-2017 03:17 AM
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This is bullshit, but at the same time I highly doubt we've lost a MENSA member here.
04-28-2017 03:28 AM
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I'm not even surprised, this is the UK we talking about. It's beyond cucked.
04-28-2017 03:50 AM
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RE: Woman cleared of murder after stabbing abusive boyfriend to death......."abus...
More details here:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/...arded-bit/

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west...c-12722260

Both poorly written, hard to sort out the "she said" from the objective fact, but the guy did have a court case from a prior domestic abuse with her and she took out a life insurance policy - on herself, she said she was afraid her kids would have nothing. If she took it out on him, would be different of course.

There was probably enough evidence to show this guy was a rage monkey in a relationship that was full of crazy.

The burden was on the prosecution to show she could not have had fear for her life justifying the use of deadly force. They couldn't do it.
04-28-2017 06:02 AM
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Sounds like both were equally shitty and both are to blame for staying with the other
04-28-2017 08:21 AM
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I am sure this article has been quoted before, but Dalrymple nailed these situations back in the nineties when he wrote of working in an emergency room as a doctor:

Tough Love

Quote:My patient was intelligent but badly educated, as only products of the British educational system can be after 11 years of compulsory school attendance. She thought the Second World War took place in the 1970s and could give me not a single correct historical date.

I asked her whether she thought a young and violent burglar would have proved much of a companion. She admitted that he wouldn't, but said that he was the type she liked; besides which—in slight contradiction—all boys were the same.

I warned her as graphically as I could that she was already well down the slippery slope leading to poverty and misery—that, as I knew from the experience of untold patients, she would soon have a succession of possessive, exploitative, and violent boyfriends, unless she changed her life. I told her that in the past few days, I had seen two women patients who had had their heads rammed down the lavatory, one who had had her head smashed through a window and her throat cut on the shards of glass, one who had had her arm, jaw, and skull broken, and one who had been suspended by her ankles from a tenth-floor window to the tune of, "Die, you bitch!"

"I can look after myself," said my 17-year-old.

"But men are stronger than women," I said. "When it comes to violence, they are at an advantage."

"That's a sexist thing to say," she replied.

A girl who had absorbed nothing at school had nevertheless absorbed the shibboleths of political correctness in general and of feminism in particular.

"But it's a plain, straightforward, and inescapable fact," I said.

"It's sexist," she reiterated firmly.


Quote:A stubborn refusal to face inconvenient facts, no matter how obvious, now pervades our attitude toward relations between the sexes. An ideological filter of wishful thinking strains out anything we'd prefer not to acknowledge about these eternally difficult and contested relations, with predictably disastrous results.

I meet with this refusal everywhere, even among the nursing staff of my ward. Intelligent and capable, as decent and dedicated a group of people as I know, they seem, in the matter of judging the character of men, utterly, almost willfully, incompetent.

Quote:. . . it isn't altogether surprising that I can now tell at a glance—with a fair degree of accuracy—that a man is violent toward his significant other. (It doesn't follow, of course, that I can tell when a man isn't violent toward her.) In truth, the clues are not particularly subtle. A closely shaven head with many scars on the scalp from collisions with broken bottles or glasses; a broken nose; blue tattoos on the hands, arms, and neck, relaying messages of love, hate, and challenge; but above all, a facial expression of concentrated malignity, outraged egotism, and feral suspiciousness—all these give the game away. Indeed, I no longer analyze the clues and deduce a conclusion: a man's propensity to violence is as immediately legible in his face and bearing as any other strongly marked character trait.


All the more surprising is it to me, therefore, that the nurses perceive things differently. They do not see a man's violence in his face, his gestures, his deportment, and his bodily adornments, even though they have the same experience of the patients as I. They hear the same stories, they see the same signs, but they do not make the same judgments. What's more, they seem never to learn; for experience—like chance, in the famous dictum of Louis Pasteur—favors only the mind prepared. And when I guess at a glance that a man is an inveterate wife beater (I use the term "wife" loosely), they are appalled at the harshness of my judgment, even when it proves right once more.

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04-28-2017 01:35 PM
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RE: Woman cleared of murder after stabbing abusive boyfriend to death......."abusive"?
I once represented a woman accused of stabbing (minor wound) her boyfriend. She was hot! Tall, brown, nice face, body. Ancestry was Trinidad Indian. Some relationship drama, can't remember what. Her and the boyfriend had got into it before with police involvement.
She could give usual life details, did not think she was particularly odd at arraignment.

Thing was, she showed up with her social worker at the pretrial hearing. Social worker because she was officially mentally retarded. Whether it was a SSDI scam, I don't know. But she and boyfriend definitely prone to retarded crazy fighting.

Can't remember exactly how it turned out, I think reduction to simple assault and battery and deferred adjudication with probation "programs."
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