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(08-17-2017 01:00 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Hatreon just got banned from their hosting company today. The digital leftists are banning people left and right. The great summer purge is well underway.

Hatreon was always a cringe-making name to choose. It might have been funny to a small number of edgy memelords, but they would have been much more successful with a neutral name.

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I agree it was poor branding. Also asking to get sued. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb. We need smart people in tech on the Right.

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deleted - was already posted in the other thread, didn't see it, my bad.
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RE: Paypal's crackdown against red pill and alt right sites
Elon Musk bought back x.com from PayPal recently. 200% chance he starts a new payment processor if they start dumping enough businesses.
08-17-2017 07:04 PM
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RE: Paypal's crackdown against red pill and alt right sites
A neglected aspect is that non-altright free speech sites like gab are also getting it
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(08-17-2017 01:00 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Hatreon just got banned from their hosting company today. The digital leftists are banning people left and right.
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Nope, they're only banning "right".
08-18-2017 01:01 AM
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VICE Editorial Staff: "Damn it! We want the sole rights to modifying, erasing and archiving history!"

Who knew that "waybackmachine.org" was a Nazi site? You learn something new every day....

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(08-18-2017 05:05 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  [Image: y-ej1UR0oxxeq3sbFy5tWPeCsqz1GJt9fJMYUGG7...39d84d80e1]

Fortunately for these technically illiterate leftists (but I repeat myself), there are still Ctrl + C and Ctrl + V, as well as screenshots, and even if you disable that there are still cameras....

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(08-18-2017 05:05 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  [Image: y-ej1UR0oxxeq3sbFy5tWPeCsqz1GJt9fJMYUGG7...39d84d80e1]
Fuck!

No.

I said this back in the Gamergate days, and no-one listened.

By furiously-scanning these sites to be the first to respond to Clickbait, the Right is probably making up 80% of their traffic.

So, the Meme needs to be to IGNORE VICE.

1) Don't go there looking to get offended.

2) There's no more need to share whatever their latest fucktarded article is.

3) Understand that if someone doesn't know Vice (and Progressives) are toxic by now, one more article isn't going to convince them.

4) If someone you know shares Vice, explain why they shouldn't.

If Vice can't be commented upon or archived, then it no longer exists for us as a source of information, irritation or mockery.

Shrink their audience, and kill their advertising money.

NO MORE CLICKS.

Spread it.
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RE: Paypal's crackdown against red pill and alt right sites
I don't like the memory hole effect the lack of archiving on any site's articles causes. They don't want to be held accountable for the thing they say or get caught making mistakes.

Also they don't like that they are losing out on advertising money with the archive links, which means it is working.
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RE: Paypal's crackdown against red pill and alt right sites
What will occur if you drive a man to the wall, not able to work or spend his own money? They will have to pick:

a) curl up into a ball and be a mouse
b) lash out, fight and steal to live, or for pay back.

...but if he were the kind of man to choose (a) he would not be on the left's radar in any case.

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I thought it odd that the govt does not say any thing about this. But now I begin to see why.

A few days ago even TOR has this to say:


Right now they are oh so solid in their minds, but I see it as a small step for them to work to doxx these boys.

As long as govt keeps quiet, these slugs will do the work for them.

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HAHAHAHAHAHHA:


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Someone help me...

do people who work at Tor really believe that fake news racism is the worst thing in the world (more so than all of the other things spread on Tor, to the point where it even warrants a public statement and a gay cartoon)... or are they trying to suck up to the state?

Or are they just already totally compromised by the deep state?
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(08-18-2017 05:05 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  [Image: y-ej1UR0oxxeq3sbFy5tWPeCsqz1GJt9fJMYUGG7...39d84d80e1]
Fuck!

DAMN! That's a scene right out of Orwell's "1984".
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(08-18-2017 11:11 AM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  Someone help me...

do people who work at Tor really believe that fake news racism is the worst thing in the world (more so than all of the other things spread on Tor, to the point where it even warrants a public statement and a gay cartoon)... or are they trying to suck up to the state?

Or are they just already totally compromised by the deep state?


Unfortunately, it's all of the above. They literally can't do their job if people point out the inconvenient facts they've stated in the past...because their job isn't informing people, it's indoctrinating and controlling them. As Assange says, you're not getting news from these people, it's "weaponized information".
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RE: Paypal's crackdown against red pill and alt right sites
Only a few months ago, I remember a spirited debate as to whether or not Red Pillers should try to boycott Google/Amazon/Youtube etc... or at least shift away from their services and products, since they had such leftist views.

Many counterarguments were valid, citing sheer practicality as a reason not too. I can respect these views although I find the under-riding reasons a bit short sighted.

Many forcefully argued that "boycotting" was beta, and that it's a free market and they will continue to use the best service as along as it suits them well personally in that moment.

Well, look at where we've come.

If you are dependent on these sites, if you use Uber religiously, now not only are you funding companies hell bent on erasing the values that you hold dear, but now you are actively putting yourself at risk.

It will be only a matter of time before you will be "identified" as right winger, therefore a Nazi/WN whatever, and you will be suffer at the hands of these companies. They will simply search through your emails, whatsapp chats, browsing history etc with an algorythm, find out what views you hold, misrepresent them, and put you in a certain group. This group will then suffer in every aspect. Perhaps Uber may stop picking you if they know you're going to an RVF meetup, perhaps some kind of flag will be sent to your employer. Perhaps Amazon will be late or ignore your shipping requests.

It's already happening on YouTube and Paypal we all know. While Paypal was a bit surprising, as for youtube - owned by Google - what did we expect? What do we expect will happen next with your Amazon account?

I'm not saying I have the answers, and I certainly have a long way to go to get away from these ubiquitous tools, but I think the whole "boycotting is beta" crowd may have missed the larger picture.

Of course we all have necessities, and some of these companies have a monopoly so fierce it seems impossible to break. But even then, keep an eye out for alternatives. With every little bit of extra convenience you get by getting Chinese plastic crap dropped off at your door, you have made yourself more dependent on someone who will use that money you just gave them to ruin your culture.

If you can break free from that, and spend money in your immediate community, you build personal bonds that are much more difficult to break. It's very easy for a huge company to anonymously "disappear" you, without any consequences. Your neighborhood store will have a harder time looking you in the eye and saying "I know you personally as a good an honorable man, but I like, heard you were a sexist rapist on the internet lolzzz, so I won't sell you anything or buy from you anymore".

Again, I'm a long long way from being off these products, but I see clearly more than ever where I need to go.
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Paypal CEO (((Dan Schulman)))

No surprises that alternate viewpoints are being targeted
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(08-18-2017 01:07 PM)Robert High Hawk Wrote:  Only a few months ago, I remember a spirited debate as to whether or not Red Pillers should try to boycott Google/Amazon/Youtube etc... or at least shift away from their services and products, since they had such leftist views.

Many counterarguments were valid, citing sheer practicality as a reason not too. I can respect these views although I find the under-riding reasons a bit short sighted.

Many forcefully argued that "boycotting" was beta, and that it's a free market and they will continue to use the best service as along as it suits them well personally in that moment.

Well, look at where we've come.

If you are dependent on these sites, if you use Uber religiously, now not only are you funding companies hell bent on erasing the values that you hold dear, but now you are actively putting yourself at risk.

It will be only a matter of time before you will be "identified" as right winger, therefore a Nazi/WN whatever, and you will be suffer at the hands of these companies. They will simply search through your emails, whatsapp chats, browsing history etc with an algorythm, find out what views you hold, misrepresent them, and put you in a certain group. This group will then suffer in every aspect. Perhaps Uber may stop picking you if they know you're going to an RVF meetup, perhaps some kind of flag will be sent to your employer. Perhaps Amazon will be late or ignore your shipping requests.

It's already happening on YouTube and Paypal we all know. While Paypal was a bit surprising, as for youtube - owned by Google - what did we expect? What do we expect will happen next with your Amazon account?

I'm not saying I have the answers, and I certainly have a long way to go to get away from these ubiquitous tools, but I think the whole "boycotting is beta" crowd may have missed the larger picture.

Of course we all have necessities, and some of these companies have a monopoly so fierce it seems impossible to break. But even then, keep an eye out for alternatives. With every little bit of extra convenience you get by getting Chinese plastic crap dropped off at your door, you have made yourself more dependent on someone who will use that money you just gave them to ruin your culture.

If you can break free from that, and spend money in your immediate community, you build personal bonds that are much more difficult to break. It's very easy for a huge company to anonymously "disappear" you, without any consequences. Your neighborhood store will have a harder time looking you in the eye and saying "I know you personally as a good an honorable man, but I like, heard you were a sexist rapist on the internet lolzzz, so I won't sell you anything or buy from you anymore".

Again, I'm a long long way from being off these products, but I see clearly more than ever where I need to go.

Shit... this post has me thinking of RFID Chips in order to Mass control! Not Good! Whatever the plans of the Elites are, they clearly shifted into a Higher Gear! Which gear is it... that I don't know! The simultaneous ban of Luimarco from Instagram & Youtube is what made me suspicious. Then I found out here that a bunch or Right Wing Site suffered the same fate... then I knew What was Up!
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(08-18-2017 05:05 AM)Transsimian Wrote:  [Image: y-ej1UR0oxxeq3sbFy5tWPeCsqz1GJt9fJMYUGG7...39d84d80e1]
Fuck!

Screengrab, One-click Screenshot or any number of different browser extensions can save the full page as an image and automatically upload them to whatever image host you want. What a bunch of idiots.
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This isn't corporate but related, the guy carrying the Swastika flag at UTR? Possibility that he works for the fbi. Posting here because of how it relates to this campaign: you get saddled with an image to justify letting you be censored.
Also goes to show why quality control was sorely lacking at UTR. Wouldn't be surprised if Kessler was a fed
So we have a grand partnership between public and private
https://mobile.twitter.com/RickyVaughn_I...1255670785
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(08-17-2017 01:18 AM)RawGod Wrote:  
(08-17-2017 01:00 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Hatreon just got banned from their hosting company today. The digital leftists are banning people left and right. The great summer purge is well underway.

Hatreon was always a cringe-making name to choose. It might have been funny to a small number of edgy memelords, but they would have been much more successful with a neutral name.

When you want to make these new companies you have to call them Anti-Hatreon, or Gay Men's Investment Fund or National Institute for Radical Tolerance and Inclusion or something along those lines. It's an obvious troll job but the branding won't draw too much attention.
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A start up is helping out Dailystormer apparently.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017...a-startup/

I know a white knight metaphor would be misplaced here, and it's too soon to say.
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(08-19-2017 06:25 PM)Eskhander Wrote:  This isn't corporate but related, the guy carrying the Swastika flag at UTR? Possibility that he works for the fbi. Posting here because of how it relates to this campaign: you get saddled with an image to justify letting you be censored.
Also goes to show why quality control was sorely lacking at UTR. Wouldn't be surprised if Kessler was a fed
So we have a grand partnership between public and private
https://mobile.twitter.com/RickyVaughn_I...1255670785

Kessler was an Occupy follower, a former CNN employee and an Obama supporter until 8 months ago. Highly likely he's some kind of Fed or spook.
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(08-19-2017 07:28 PM)Bill Brasky Wrote:  
(08-17-2017 01:18 AM)RawGod Wrote:  
(08-17-2017 01:00 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  Hatreon just got banned from their hosting company today. The digital leftists are banning people left and right. The great summer purge is well underway.

Hatreon was always a cringe-making name to choose. It might have been funny to a small number of edgy memelords, but they would have been much more successful with a neutral name.

When you want to make these new companies you have to call them Anti-Hatreon, or Gay Men's Investment Fund or National Institute for Radical Tolerance and Inclusion or something along those lines. It's an obvious troll job but the branding won't draw too much attention.

Anti-Hatreon is actually an accurate title.
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