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(12-20-2018 07:12 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(12-17-2018 03:53 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Interesting this one.

I, too, absolutely can't stand rap. Not sure about restriction measures though...but he does raise a good point.

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This is an attempt to control free speech.

There is very little drugs and sex in Russian rap. It is much more intellectual then western rap. I risk getting hated but the truth is that it is because - it is sung by a different race of peoples. I listen to it and I know. Russian rap may appear degenerate only to old babuskas who support Putin. For any western conservative - Russian rap would appear very red pill and even virtuous compared to much more degenerate pop. Pop is owned by sluts both in west and in Russia. But rap is owned by men and for men and Russian rap is much more smarter then western.

Russian rap however - like any non-mainstream art of course - is strictly anti-authoritarian.

I am currently disappointed in Putin. He seems to have been given up. At the start of his reign he did many commendable red pill things, saved Russian children from molestation by western homos, made sports cool again and made drinking and smoking uncool again.

Lately he is just holding to power with increased authoritarianism, making no advances in conservatism and doing nothing about spread of Islam.

His tactic to keep Russian Muslims at peace is to bribe them by giving huge grants to Chechen and other Muslim regions. It will work for the time of Putin's reign but his successors will have to deal with much stronger Muslim 5th column.

Can you give some examples of Russian rap? Just curious to see a few songs.

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(12-20-2018 02:36 PM)fiasco360 Wrote:  Can you give some examples of Russian rap? Just curious to see a few songs.

Oxxxymiron the current king of Russian rap, you cannot think about Russian rep wihout mentioning this guy:





All of his songs are know for their high level of smart referances to various intellectual stuf like philosophy, literature and similar.









In Russia the real popularity of a rapper is decided by rap battles who are often even more popular then their songs. Here is the only battle Oxxymiron ever lost and is very popular, both rappers are big stars of non-PC culture:





If you want to hear him in English here he is battling an English speaking rapper and in my opinion winning:



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A few other songs from various guys I like:



















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Now there are some russian rappers who might be accused of singing about alcohol, crime and similar bad stuff, most notoriously this guy in the videos below. But he is a clown and everyone with an ounce of intelect understands that and doesn't take him seriously. Basicly in Russia if you sing dumb songs without philosophical underlay about stupid n***a topics like crime and drugs and alcohol then you are a clown.

The worst thing Putin could do is take guys like this seriously and take any measures, it would really discredit the government and turn clowns into rebels.











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12-20-2018 03:12 PM
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(12-19-2018 12:12 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  
(12-17-2018 06:51 PM)911 Wrote:  Those countries have been part of Greater Russia for centuries, and they also have large Russian Christian populations. It's vital for Russia to keep a strong influence over and good relations with their satellite countries in central Asia. Not the same situation in western Europe where there are no organic/historic ties predating modern colonial empires.

Putin gets the fact that pop music has been deliberately weaponized to demoralize and destroy societies. None are more dangerous and potent as rap, which dumbs down people and turns women into sexually degenerate hoes, it's like the fentanyl of degenerate musical genres. If you're interested in that subject I could provide links to serious red pill academic research on this subject.

It seems like the rulers of Russia and China are really looking out for the welfare of their people, these countries are run by former cadres of the communist system and have a deep understanding of the weaponization of culture as a powerful tool for subversion. In the West, leaders are either completely complicit with the globo-homo agenda, or they're dumb NPC neoliberal dupes who are oblivious to the destructive power of cultural subversion.

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I need a bit of time to gather the research, will start a new thread later this winter on the weaponization of pop music as a tool for cultural subversion, the players behind this, and the neuro-psychological aspects involved.

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Please note that if Putin would really care about morailty then he would forbid import of western rap and pop in the first place, that is from where the degradation comes.

Russian rap - as shown by songs I posted above - is very different - emphasis is on masculinity, honor, introspection and protest against corruption. Russian rap singed by non-mainstream (but very popular)artists is really a net positive influence on young people of Russia nowadays.

Now Russian mainstream pop however (known as "естрада" in Russia) is singed by prominent state approved stars and has become really decadent and shitty, promoting cheap hedonism and is dominated by flamboyant homosexuals like Filip Kirkorov, Maxim Galkin and Nikolay Baskov. Sadly Putin doesn't talk about banning or limiting that.

This is the shitty decadent russian pop singed by the aging state approved superstars, trying to be relevant and edgy, this is the stuff that should really be banned:











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Appreciate the posts mage. I'll check it out.

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A Russian YouTuber asks other Russians what they think of the USA. Pretty interesting.



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(12-27-2018 11:26 PM)beta_plus Wrote:  A Russian YouTuber asks other Russians what they think of the USA. Pretty interesting.




Cool video, good snapshot of the Russian culture and you can see the high regard they have for the USA. Despite telling them to fuck off, most would all move there in a heartbeat.

Two things I found especially interesting were:

1) The chick who virtue signals about gays while the dude is against it. It shows women are the gateway to that degeneracy gaining ground in Russia.

2) Why do Russians think everyone else imagines the Russian stereotype to be a drunk bear playing a balalaika? I've heard this all over Russia, but nobody has that stereotype. Vodka-chugging tough guy men and hot gold-diggers are the common stereotypes. But drunk bear playing a balalaika? No. Nobody even knows what a balalaika is.

Not sure if Putin thread is the best place for this.
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WB, WB, WB, WB, WB.

Now, back to all things Putin

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(12-20-2018 03:46 PM)Mage Wrote:  Please note that if Putin would really care about morailty then he would forbid import of western rap and pop in the first place, that is from where the degradation comes.

Is it not the case that banning something makes it more attractive? Putin is perhaps smart to leave it alone. With the superior themes already endemic in Russian rap I'm not seeing how there is an influence problem that needs fixing. Are Russians actually listening to Western junk music? Do they understand English lyrics? Perhaps they just ogle at the depravity in the videos?
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(01-01-2019 01:35 PM)rotekz Wrote:  
(12-20-2018 03:46 PM)Mage Wrote:  Please note that if Putin would really care about morailty then he would forbid import of western rap and pop in the first place, that is from where the degradation comes.

Is it not the case that banning something makes it more attractive? Putin is perhaps smart to leave it alone. With the superior themes already endemic in Russian rap I'm not seeing how there is an influence problem that needs fixing. Are Russians actually listening to Western junk music? Do they understand English lyrics? Perhaps they just ogle at the depravity in the videos?

You are trying to pull a strawman here arn't you? Why?

I am not advocating banning everything. There was a discussion on possible ban/restriction on Russian rap on accusations of it being immoral and I argumented that if something is immoral and could be banned for that reason it would be western pop/rap not Russian rap. I am not advocating banning anything actually, just pointing out the false premise for considering the ban/restriction.

Of course Russians understand English lyrics. The whole world understands English lyrics. You don't need high levels of English to understand "She is such a fucking whore. I love it." and "I am a sick fuck, I like a quick fuck" It's not Shakespeare. But that song teaches any kid with 4th grade English proficiency that loving whores for who they are is cool and a quick fuck is one of the priorities in life if you wanna be cool.
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Forget it Mage. It was not a straw man and you are acting way too heavy to be worth my time.
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Can’t beat Cossack folk songs. Give me that over Ariana grande any day.
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Spoken like a man. Here goes :





Also wtf youtube !?
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