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How much does the Russian state security and intelligence communities monitor its own citizens? I assumed they are monitored (electronically) as much as Americans are.
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Probably a lot, but at least they arrest them for logical stuff like uncovering corruption rather than insane stuff like not being a fan of Bruce Jenner.

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(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)AManLikePutin Wrote:  Episodes 1-3 are available on YouTube now (I missed tonight's episode which was apparently mostly about US election, will find link tomorrow)

Episode 1: Talk mostly about collapse of USSR, Cold War, Yeltsin era and Putin's rise to power + infamous 2007 Munich speech that made him the enemy of the globalist West.






Episode 2: Talk of nukes, NATO, Anti-Missile system, Gays, Nuclear family, Islam in Russia, Ethnic Russians birthrate, Opposition, and Snowden






Episode 3: Mostly internal politics. Ukraine and Crimean conflict, Syrian war, Defense system and capabilities and near Donald Cook disaster in Black Sea (2014)










Amazing interviews and excellent questions.
I really like how the interviews are partly filmed "on the go" in different settings and while they are walking/moving.
Oliver Stone used this interview technique sucessfully when he asked questions to the (now deceased) leader of Cuba, Fidel Castro, in the same way back in the year 2002 in his film Comandante and in 2003 in his follow-up film Looking for Fidel.


They most in your face alpha moments are in Part 2 where Putin gets in his hockey gear to play a game on ice (minute 15:32) and the one where Putin is driving his own car through Moscow while Olive Stone asks him questions about Edward Snowden...(minute 35:50).



and...by the way:

Here is part 4



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The man would have certainly earned Machiavelli's respect that's for sure.
Regardless of whether he is on individual moral lens as a statesman he has proven to be more than able and maintaining a dignity many of his contemporaries could only dream of...

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This might be interesting. Oliver Stone doc coming about Putin.

Liberals are attacking Oliver Stone for being too friendly to Putin.





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(06-16-2017 06:06 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  This might be interesting. Oliver Stone doc coming about Putin.

Liberals are attacking Oliver Stone for being too friendly to Putin.





I've watched the first two. Putin is my man.

When the Putin motorcade is driving around, Putin is driving his own car. He plays hockey, he does judo. There's nothing shocking so far about the interview, its just obvious Putin will kick your ass.

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This one is great, he absolutely wipes the floor with her and the audience just laughs and laughs in her face.

Seeing Modi trying (and failing) to keep a straight face is great too. The entire world is starting to laugh at the American media.

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This one is great, he absolutely wipes the floor with her and the audience just laughs and laughs in her face.

Seeing Modi trying (and failing) to keep a straight face is great too. The entire world is starting to laugh at the American media.

Shitlording levels overwhelming!

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You can see a puddle forming under Kelly's seat. She wants to get banged out by Putin. Banana
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I like how he mentions that he has read the classified report on Russian hacking (at least it seemed so). Laugh

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Probably the most charismatic and controversial leader of 21st century, Putin is an archetype of manhood that we need in this pussified world. You can disagree with his policies and methods but Russia is a huge clusterfuck than can only be governed through strength and consolidation of power. I am sure many books will be written about this man and his colossal role in modern history. Unfortunately, there won't be another Putin and there won't be another Trump after they are gone.

Putin didn't rise to power in the nineties. He has always been part of the power. He is the dark cardinal of Russian politics that has always been present at the decision table.

Putin, the tourist with a camera, as an undercover KGB agent asking Reagan provocative questions.

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Putin watching over Gorbachev.

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Putin with the Godfather of Russian Mafia, Aslan Usoyan aka Ded Hasan.

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Rap about Putin.





This man, like Trump, has a plan that he has been working on all his life. If Russia were an industrialized country like Germany and Japan, Western sanctions would have crippled its economy a long time ago. Their underdeveloped economy and harsh history help them cope with hardships like no other nation. The only way white race can survive is through the peace between USA and Russia. Until then, whites are going to commit a suicide on a daily basis.
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(06-21-2017 02:07 AM)speculator Wrote:  Putin, the tourist with a camera, as an undercover KGB agent asking Reagan provocative questions.

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It's never been confirmed if that is actually Putin.



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He shakes out his drenched coat at minute 1:24



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Worth reposting:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/uncat...t-bankers/

Quote:What I do know is there appears to have been a plot to take over Russia and that came from sources directly in Russia at the time. My case began September 13th, 1999 and Safra was killed December 3rd. Within a week the government moved to put me in contempt and stop my request for a Speedy Trial. It came out in court that bullets were left in my mailbox to warn me to shut up. But I was in the public spot light so they created a contempt and through me in to suspend everything.

Safra was linked with Boris Abramovich Berezovsky and allegedly Vladimir Aleksandrovich Gusinsky, the media tycoon. As the plot was laid out by Russian sources, Yeltsin was convinced to take $7 billion from the IMF funds to refurbish the Kremlin – a staggering amount of money. The funds were wired to a largely unknown company in Switzerland. The wire was steered through Bank of New York and as soon as it was made, Safra had his bank run to the Feds and report that Bank of New York had just conducted a money laundering event. The Feds ran in wide-eyed and of course announced their action to the world before thoroughly investigating the allegations of Safra. I had a personal meeting with Dov Schlien president of Republic National Bank in March 1999 where he asked me to invest $10 billion offering a letter of credit guarantee. I sent an email to Tokyo explaining the offer to our office there.
It was at this time that THE CONSPIRATORS threatened Yeltsin with exposure of his theft of $7 billion on the world stage. The demand was to appoint Berezovsky as the new President of Russia and for Yeltsin to step down and not run in 2000. Yeltsin, realizing he was set up, turned to Putin who nobody had heard of. As the story goes, Putin promised to take care of everything if Yeltsin appointed him instead, Yeltsin resigned on December 31, 1999, after Safra was killed on December 3rd in Monaco. The Presidential elections were held in Russia on the 26th of March 2000 formally electing Putin.


That's one reason they hate Putin. He single-handedly thwarted their plan to bring Russia under control and killed one of the real behind the scenes masterminds of in retaliation for their attempts to take over Russia.

The hatred of Putin runs very deep for good reason. For the last 17 years a huge number of their machinations have been stopped by Putin who is a far more capable player at the game of "thrones".

All from someone who by their view isn't even supposed to be there.
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What I notice with Putin in the Oliver Stone interviews, is Putin works very hard to be a serious man. This is completely opposite American politics, where easy going politicians are preferred. Putin is almost German in his serious approach. Extremely controlled person. He also takes every opportunity to point out "different opinions", again and again and again, which is aimed at the average Westerner who has a simple understanding of power. I think the interview does a good job of showing Russian national character, where it is the same as the west and were it differs. Overall I would say Putin comes out of it in a positive light if a little boring.
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(06-22-2017 04:42 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  What I notice with Putin in the Oliver Stone interviews, is Putin works very hard to be a serious man. This is completely opposite American politics, where easy going politicians are preferred. Putin is almost German in his serious approach. Extremely controlled person. He also takes every opportunity to point out "different opinions", again and again and again, which is aimed at the average Westerner who has a simple understanding of power. I think the interview does a good job of showing Russian national character, where it is the same as the west and were it differs. Overall I would say Putin comes out of it in a positive light if a little boring.

Its pretty funny when Oliver Stone gives him the dvd box, but the disc itself is still in the player. Putin shows the empty box and says " Typical American gift!"

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I recently checked out Oliver Stone's 4 Part Putin Interviews, and found them pretty interesting. Vladmir comes across as a pretty astute, and knowledgeable man.

Does anyone know of any good/positive Putin documentaries that are available online?

I found one titled, "The President" that was released in 2016 and was able to watch it under my Amazon Prime membership. It gave Putin a fair shake, and wasn't just a hit piece, but the majority of the other Putin documentaries available seem to be unsurprisingly negative judging on the reviews.
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(06-22-2017 10:55 AM)Mercenary Wrote:  Like a Boss...






The only place Megyn Kelly won't follow.


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(06-26-2017 12:55 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  The only place Megyn Kelly won't follow.

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Wrong. That's not rain, it's Megyn squirting while fantasizing about Putin.

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Very interesting article about increasing rate of ethnic Russians in the population....Very recent. (Maps are provided in the link).

http://www.unz.com/akarlin/russia-more-russian/

Quote:Countless photos showing zillions of Muslims filling up Moskvabad’s streets. More gleeful shitposts from /pol/ to svidomy forums about imminent Russabia.

But you don’t have to be a particularly big fan of open borders with Central Asia to be able to look at statistics.

In a series of recent posts, Russian blogger Ivan Vladimirov tallied the percentage of newborn ethnic Russians relative to the percentage of Russians as a whole per region.

This is a solid approach, because while counting immigrants is hard – estimates of illegal migrants in Russia vary all over the place – doing so for newborns is far easier. Ultimately the vast majority of births happen in hospitals, and it is difficult to imagine a vast Uzbek/Tajik underground baby boom taking place, not least because of the banal fact that the vast majority of Gastarbeiters are males.

Anyhow, bearing in mind that newborns today reflect society in 30-50 years’ time, the figures are actually quite encouraging (from an assimilationist perspective).

Here is another set of maps from blogger n_avdeev.

The first one shows the percentage of ethnic Russians by region:

The second shows the percentage of ethnic Russians younger than 5 years by region (note that green numbers represent an increase, and red numbers a decrease, relative to the total percentage of ethnic Russians):

You can actually see the majority Russian areas getting even more Russian. This even includes Moscow and Saint-Petersburg, despite them being Gastarbeiter magnets.

The Chuvash, Udmurts, Karels, Komi, Mari, and Mordva are steadily becoming Russians. The Republic of Karelia, once a separate Soviet Socialist republic from 1940-1956, has gone from being 57% Russian in 1926 to 82% by 2010 (and 94% amongst infants), while the comically named Jewish autonomous oblast has seen its Jews decline from 16% of the population in 1939 to 1% by 2010, and becoming 93% Russian overall (98% amongst infants).

Unsurprisingly, the Ukrainians and Belorussians are becoming Russians at an even faster pace, as are as the few remaining Jews and Germans.

Only the Tatars and Bashkirs are holding their own in their ethnic republics, though outside them, they too are dissolving into Russiandom.

However, in regions already mostly populated by highly fertile, underdeveloped, and lower IQ ethnic minorities, such as the North Caucasus (esp. “DICh”, i.e. Dagestan, Ingushetia, Chechnya) and some Siberian regions such as Tyva and the Sakha Republic, the share of ethnic Russians is falling, often at a precipitous rate.

If Russia has an equivalent to US states like Arizona and Texas, where the original White American stock is steadily being outpaced by demographic expansionism from more virile southern ethnicities, it is Stavropol krai (81% total vs. 77% infants), Astrakhan oblast (67% vs. 64%), and the Altai republic (57% vs. 51%).

However, these are literally the only major exceptions to a pattern where ethnic Russians are stable or increasing in the parts of the country where they already constitute a solid majority. In this sense, Russia is far better off not just relative to the US, where non-Hispanic Whites now total 62% of the population and account for less than 50% of new births since 2011, but also many West European countries that have gone from being ~99% to 85%-90% White in the space of just a couple of generations (see Mark Yuray’s map to the right).

Since ethnic Russians don’t have particularly high fertility rates (though they are not significantly lower than those of non-DICh and Mongoloid Siberian minorities), the primary vehicle through which Russianizationization occurs must happen on account of differential rates of intermarriage with Russians (in such marriages, children typically adopt the dominant Russian culture).

Another blogger, Oleg Lisovsky, has compiled figures on intermarriage for both men and women.

Around 70% of Ukrainians and Belorussians marry Russians, so assimilation there is particularly fast, considering also the barely indistinguishable nature of those cultures.

These figures are considerably lower amongst the Christian Caucasian (Armenians, Georgians) and Finno-Ugric (20%-50%) nationalities, and extremely low amongst the Tyvans and DICh peoples (<5%).

On the basis of this data, Vladimirov also compiled a map of the intermarriage coefficient for Russia’s regions. Unfortunately, the scale is not specified, but one can make out the general pattern:

High levels of intermarriage in the regions where there are substantial ethnic minorities amongst large Russian majorities;
Moderate levels of intermarriage in regions with near homogenous Russian populations and predominant ethnic minorities;
Extremely low levels of intermarriage in DICh (who barely even intermarry amongst themselves).

One notes that this applies even to small population groups within DICh, such as the Laks, of whom there are 161,000 in Dagestan and 179,000 in Russia according to the 2010 census. Male Laks marry female Laks 85% of the time and ethnic Russians 5% of the time (my grandfather is a very rare case); female Laks marry male Laks 88% of the time and ethnic Russians a mere 1.2% of the time.

Three are three main lessons to take away from this:

(1) Russia is simply not undergoing population replacement/displacement on the American or West European model. There is, to be sure, considerable… métissage, but it is primarily happening between genetically and psychometrically similar peoples – and in many cases, this is something that has been happening for centuries anyway (e.g. north Russians are basically admixed Slavs and Finno-Ugrics anyway).

(2) The DICh regions are a lost cause in terms of assimilation, but in all fairness, they probably always were. They are very distinct from the rest of Russia, and understandably so, since like Central Asia, they were only annexed in the middle of the 19th century. They are also absurdly ethnocentric in terms of marriage and reproduction.

During the course of the next century, it seems inevitable that Russians will fade away from the other ethnic minority Caucasian republics, such as Karachaevo-Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria, and North Ossetia, as well as Kalmykia and Tyva.

The only places in the North Caucasus where a demographic “struggle” of sorts is occuring with respect to traditional Russian majority regions are Stavropol krai and Astrakhan oblast, but even there, the scale of the problem is decidedly smaller than in America’s borderlands with Mexico’s or Western Europe’s inner cities.

(3) The system of ethno-republics, apart from feeding corrupt regional oligarchies, also seems to act as a break on assimilation. The prime historical example is of course the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic, which foistered a Ukrainian identity upon Malorussians within its territories – including Novorossiya, where they were essentially just settlers – whereas the Malorussians of the Russian Kuban have almost all became Russians since the 1920s by dint of being in the RSFSR. However, as the demographic statistics above make it clear, the same trends are playing out, to some extent, even within the Russian Federation proper.

This is why most Russian nationalists have tended to dislike federalism and ethnic minority republics, and urge a return to the imperial system of guberniyas.
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Putin must be on TRT.
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I thought that the whole Russian ties thing was a liberal fabrication, but now I am not so sure, it appears that Putin has some links to Russia. Not just that, but he has been linked to the Kremlin.

Maxine was right all along!

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