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I hope everything's still going smoothly! How has the Dianabol impacted our lab work and exams over the long term? Have your doses changed?

(05-14-2017 01:10 AM)Fortis Wrote:  Under the tutelage of two guys who have been on TRT and anabolics for 10+ years, I started with 150mg once a week through an insulin pin and 20mg of Dianabol 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. The Dianabol isn’t necessary but I enjoy bodybuilding so the low dosage is sort of a perma-cruise. The gains come on steadily and my body seems to have undergone a major recomposition. 


I’m not suggesting that to anyone, I just want to be honest about what I have been doing with my body as I write this. 



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(09-14-2017 09:05 PM)Kwisatz Wrote:  I hope everything's still going smoothly! How has the Dianabol impacted our lab work and exams over the long term? Have your doses changed?

(05-14-2017 01:10 AM)Fortis Wrote:  Under the tutelage of two guys who have been on TRT and anabolics for 10+ years, I started with 150mg once a week through an insulin pin and 20mg of Dianabol 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. The Dianabol isn’t necessary but I enjoy bodybuilding so the low dosage is sort of a perma-cruise. The gains come on steadily and my body seems to have undergone a major recomposition. 


I’m not suggesting that to anyone, I just want to be honest about what I have been doing with my body as I write this. 


Dbol seems to be fine. My liver values come in completely normal. Nothing looks weird since my last lab test 1 month ago.

I don't fuck with a good thing. I am not going for massive strength goals and I find that 20mg of dianabol + Test U/E, proper sleep, diet and training is more than enough. I was sick for the past week so I dropped dbol and training. I will be resuming the gym fully recuperated tomorrow.

I've measured a little low on weight lately but I imagine that has more to do with dehydration and lack of eating from sickness more than anything.

I am considering adding some HCG to the mix to hedge against depleting sperm count, but I find that my sex drive and everything is fine.

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For those trying to keep their sperm counts up, what are you using and how much? I see HCG in the mix. What has your doctor recommended? I've been on T-cream for a year now and it has helped with energy and building some muscles, a positive for sure. That being said, since being on TRT, my balls have shrunk. I haven't done a sperm count check, but it is a concern as I want to be a father once married. What are the best methods for protecting your balls to keep your future swimmers in healthy shape? I'm about to see the doctor in a few weeks, just want to have my questions prepped.

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I haven't gone on HCG yet and I don't see a doctor for this stuff. Perhaps some of the other men can help you with this question.

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HCG and clomid are the tried and true, but they have side effects too.

Clomid isn't a drug you'd want to take long term, it's just rather shit for you.

I'd reccomend either freezing your sperm or getting your old lady pregnant, and then go ahead and do TRT without taking two more drugs that you don't need.
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(09-15-2017 11:41 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I've been on T-cream for a year now and it has helped with energy and building some muscles, a positive for sure. That being said, since being on TRT, my balls have shrunk. I haven't done a sperm count check, but it is a concern as I want to be a father once married.

JMK, can you please be a bit more specific with the pros of T-cream you have enjoyed over the past year? How do you know it is the cream that responsible?

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(09-15-2017 11:41 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  I've been on T-cream for a year now and it has helped with energy and building some muscles, a positive for sure. That being said, since being on TRT, my balls have shrunk. I haven't done a sperm count check, but it is a concern as I want to be a father once married.

JMK, can you please be a bit more specific with the pros of T-cream you have enjoyed over the past year? How do you know it is the cream that responsible?

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Glad to help.

Pros:

+ Increased muscle mass with similar effort put forth in the gym. Pre-TRT cream I was looking at T-levels around 220, very low! The TRT cream has boosted those numbers to almost quadruple that amount.

+ Less mental fog. When T-levels were low, I felt you do jacking off to porn. Fuzzy and losing your edge. Lack of motivation. Mild depression, even. Once the T-levels were back up, I felt more willing to take on challenges and also call out B.S. when I see it. I lost some meekness that was holding me back from accomplishing better things in life.

+ Better sleep with better T-levels. When you have more energy in the gym, you can push harder, get in a great workout and sleep better as a result.

The only real con was my balls going down in size by about 30-40% in volume. As testicles are irregularly shaped, it is hard to tell the exact amount, I'm just guessing. That being said, I'm more concerned about possible sperm count reduction, as I'm in wife search mode and want to have kids soon. I'm 34 years old.

I'm 100% positive it is the cream causing the ball shrinkage, because whenever you add T produced from outside of your body, your body shuts down a lot of what remaining production you have left. It is a compensating effect. As I didn't have a sperm test done before going on TRT, I can't easily compare before and after for how virile I am.

That being said, I want to protect whatever sperm production is still intact to have children soon. The benefits of TRT have been great, but I also want to make sure I don't reduce or kill off the chance of having my own kids.

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(Today 02:49 AM)John Michael Kane Wrote:  That being said, I want to protect whatever sperm production is still intact to have children soon. The benefits of TRT have been great, but I also want to make sure I don't reduce or kill off the chance of having my own kids.

Two things.

1. While you are on TRT, you should also inject HCG to keep your balls going while shutdown on exogenous testosterone.

2. When you are ready to have kids, you will want to stop TRT and take Nolvadex (taxomifen) for 1-2 months to jumpstart your HPTA cycle, which tells your testes to start producing more sperm again. Fertility doctors usually prescribe clomid for that, but clomid has estrogenic side effects like mood swings, low libido, etc you don't want. Nolvadex does the same thing as clomid does, except without the sides.

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Thanks for the heads up CS. That's what I'm looking into doing. I have a doctor's appointment soon to discuss all of the above. Time for regular bloodwork to go over everything and I'll report back.

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