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Supplements and foods that may DECREASE testosterone
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RE: Supplements and foods that may DECREASE testosterone
(06-05-2017 11:21 AM)swuglyfe Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 01:04 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  Hey anyone notice after taking CDG and DIM that their piss is a very rusty colour?

Just making sure we're using Occam's razor here, you're sure it has nothing to do with dehydration? I've been taking these supplements for so long I don't remember what color my piss was right after starting, but these days it just varies by hydration level like usual.

Its probably because of the shit ton of supps I'm also taking.

Multi
Vit D
Vit C
CDG
DIM
ZMA
Calcium

Also how much DIM and CDG do you guys take a day? Stuff is expensive.
06-06-2017 03:30 PM
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RE: Supplements and foods that may DECREASE testosterone
(05-19-2017 10:05 AM)whenthesunhits Wrote:  I use all-natural personal care products when I can, but avoid tea tree oil and lavender as ingredients. They are anti-androgenic and estrogenic (check out the study below). Especially for toothpaste, something going inside your mouth will absorb to a much greater degree than things that only touch your skin.

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa064725

The study showing tea tree and lavender oil to be estrogenic was done ten years ago and poorly constructed. They didn't control for where the oils themselves came from (manufacturer, container, etc.), for one.

It seems a lot more likely, based on what I can find, that it was contaminants in the oil (like the things discussed in this thread) causing those results and not the oil itself.

This article summarizes/links to a lot of the arguments and studies that dispute the findings.

http://www.aromatichealth.ca/blog/?p=240
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07-26-2017 01:52 AM
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RE: Supplements and foods that may DECREASE testosterone
(06-06-2017 03:30 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  
(06-05-2017 11:21 AM)swuglyfe Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 01:04 PM)CaptainChardonnay Wrote:  Hey anyone notice after taking CDG and DIM that their piss is a very rusty colour?

Just making sure we're using Occam's razor here, you're sure it has nothing to do with dehydration? I've been taking these supplements for so long I don't remember what color my piss was right after starting, but these days it just varies by hydration level like usual.

Its probably because of the shit ton of supps I'm also taking.

Multi
Vit D
Vit C
CDG
DIM
ZMA
Calcium

Also how much DIM and CDG do you guys take a day? Stuff is expensive.

It's mostly the Vitamin B in the Multi which coloring the piss "rusty".

But it is usually better to have a slight oversupply of all vitamin B groups than a lack. Your heart and long-term health will thank you for that. Our need of all vitamin B kinds is way higher than the RDAs. Some of the RDAs are at 1-2 mg, while orthomolecular doctors estimate them to be at 10-40mg depending on age, general health, current day need etc. That is why I simply take a multi with 50mg for most of the B group and be done with it.

Some multis have 25mg on average and that is fine too.
07-26-2017 01:59 AM
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RE: Supplements and foods that may DECREASE testosterone
How about taking supplements that help in boosting testosterone levels?
07-30-2017 06:26 PM
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(05-17-2017 02:27 PM)Roosh Wrote:  When it comes to maintaining healthy testosterone, there are four areas to focus on:

1. Things that INCREASE testosterone
2. Things that DECREASE testosterone
3. Things that INCREASE estrogenic effects
4. Things that DECREASE estrogenic effects

Most of us here are probably focused on the first area, neglecting the other three.

For six months, I have been adding flax seed to my home-baked bread. Turns out that flax is a stronger phytoestrogen than soy, though a different type. Phytoestrogens seem to confer a lot of health benefits, especially to the cardiovascular system, but it is still classified as an endocrine disruptor that mimics the activity of estrogen (though does not increase estrogen levels directly). The image I have of a man who consumes a lot of phytoestrogens is a Japanese man who eats mostly vegetables and lives to 100, though is not my ideal of masculinity.

I also have been drinking beer more lately, which has phytoestrogens in the hops.

Cruciferous vegetables, such as broccoli, kale, and brussel sprouts, have phytochemicals that block estrogen production. In addition, I have read that fish oil supplementation may have a negative outcome for testosterone.

There isn't a lot of data on what individual foods do to testosterone levels, so you may have to experiment on your own.

When it comes to increasing testosterone, one overlooked strategy may be to simply avoid consuming phytoestrogens while consuming estrogen-blocking foods.

Maintaining a healthy diet without micronutrient or macronutrient deficiencies is probably most important, because having any deficiency will kill T levels.

The two other main things that will crash your testosterone harder and faster than anything: Estrogen and cortisol.

My short advice:

1) Avoid Polyunsaturated fats – introduce more saturated fats to improve the ratio and take vitamin E when eating at a restaurant high in PUFA.
2) Avoid Soy products
3) Avoid Parabens/Phthalates, filter your water, and use natural shampoos and soaps...
4) don't put your body through extremely harsh periods of fasting along with bouts of exercise

Anti-cortisol/anti-estrogen supplements: 1) Niacinamide (B3), 2) the Fat solubles (D/K/E/A), 3) magnesium, 4) taurine, 5) Zinc, 6) red light therapy, 7) Caffeine, and 8) Glycine (from collagen).
10-29-2018 10:47 PM
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RE: Supplements and foods that may DECREASE testosterone
Has anyone researched into how much of an effect these deodorants, shampoo's, soaps, cologne's, etc... actually have on T-levels? I've always been really paranoid about this and thus don't use shampoo and only use Arm and Hammer baking soda deodorant. I've always wanted to use cologne, but if it harms T-levels, its not worth it to me. I've even heard that milk lowers t-levels. I would've thought milk of all things would raise them due to the cows being injected with growth hormone. It seems that everything in the modern world has a negative effect on testosterone. You'd think that women would have even less testosterone and thus be more feminine.

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11-28-2018 03:06 PM
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heavy deadlifts give a huge T boost.

In addition, I stick to avoiding bodily chemicals. As I got from one of Roosh's articles, baking soda is a superior deodorant and does not have harmful chemical effects.

One thing I started doing was replacing my soap with Dawn dish soap. Being the clean freak that I am, I noticed that all regular bar soaps I tried left a film on my shower. There is no doubt that film is on your body too. Dawn not only removes this film but leaves none of its own. I feel much cleaner, and like the fact, I am not walking around with a film of soap scum on my body.

Yes, Its bro science, but it makes sense to me. If its safe enough for eating surfaces, its safe enough for skin.
12-02-2018 12:14 PM
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