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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
(05-24-2017 07:39 AM)Suits Wrote:  Below average people don't feel pathetic and inferior.

They simply blame their inabilities and failings on unfavorable circumstances that don't allow their genius to bear fruit.

Sometimes, in the case of my dad's side of the family, the government cracks down on you because the masses decided to have a populist revolt.

My dad and grandfather ended up doing very well as far as being respected for their intellectual prowess in their professional fields, but the wealth was gone.

That's why I am so focused on learning programming languages. I am 100% convinced if I can unlock the power of programming, connect that to emergent technologies, while building a cookie-cutter business to build capital, I can ride a wave back into the upper echelons of society.
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Fair enough.

Muslims can keep their culture and sharia law in states right?
Foreigners in U.S don't have to learn English right?



(06-01-2017 01:12 AM)Fortis Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 08:43 AM)Suits Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 07:38 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  When you go to a certain country, you go there to live like one of them.

Really? Is this some sort of objective truth that I've never heard before?

(05-20-2017 07:38 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  (can you imagine someone saying 'hell no I won't live like americans' when they come here?)

Yes, I can.

If you lived like a true Chinese person you'd end up poorer than a Chinese person. Could you imagine beating your wife in public, misusing Chinese public funds and all that other shit the locals get away with that we'd go to Jail for 203243423 years for?

I came to China to make money, bang sloots and have fun, not pretend to be Chinese.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
(06-02-2017 06:09 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 01:12 AM)Fortis Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 08:43 AM)Suits Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 07:38 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  When you go to a certain country, you go there to live like one of them.

Really? Is this some sort of objective truth that I've never heard before?

(05-20-2017 07:38 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  (can you imagine someone saying 'hell no I won't live like americans' when they come here?)

Yes, I can.

If you lived like a true Chinese person you'd end up poorer than a Chinese person. Could you imagine beating your wife in public, misusing Chinese public funds and all that other shit the locals get away with that we'd go to Jail for 203243423 years for?

I came to China to make money, bang sloots and have fun, not pretend to be Chinese.

Fair enough.

Muslims can keep their culture and sharia law in states right?

Yes, they can and do keep their culture. And yes, they may live their lives based on Sharia if they wish and often do, provided that they do not break any local laws in the process.

(06-02-2017 06:09 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  Foreigners in U.S don't have to learn English right?

No, they do not have to learn English and they often do not.


Regarding living like the locals, I live in China and have a lot of experience obvious how the locals live.

Since you want me to live like the locals, please confirm that you'd like me to engage in all of the following activities.
  • Spit loudly and routinely in public.
  • Urinate in plain sight in public whenever I feel like it.
  • Drive over pedestrians I've struck with my car a few extra times to make sure they are dead.
  • Litter constantly and without emotion or thought.
  • Run red lights with my car.
  • Pull over on the expressway in the emergency lane to let my kid take a dump on the ground.
  • Drive illegally in the emergency lane on the highway.
  • Have a complete fear of strangers.
  • Get into car accidents to avoid losing face by way of yielding to another car.
  • Cheat on exams as often as possible.
  • Only get into fights when the other dude is outnumbered and doesn't stand a chance.
  • Throw a public tantrum whenever I lose face.
  • Wait for my parents to find a solid 4 for me to marry and procreate with.
  • Live in a lousy apartment and spend all my money on a black Audi instead.
  • Honk at pedestrians to get out of my way even when I don't have the right of way.
  • Bribe school administrators to get my student a seat in the front row of the classroom.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
(06-02-2017 08:26 AM)Suits Wrote:  [*]Drive over pedestrians I've struck with my car a few extra times to make sure they are dead.

Jesus, does this really happen?
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(06-02-2017 09:45 AM)churros Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 08:26 AM)Suits Wrote:  [*]Drive over pedestrians I've struck with my car a few extra times to make sure they are dead.

Jesus, does this really happen?

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_p...ina_s.html
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(06-02-2017 08:26 AM)Suits Wrote:  Regarding living like the locals, I live in China and have a lot of experience obvious how the locals live.

Since you want me to live like the locals, please confirm that you'd like me to engage in all of the following activities.
  • Spit loudly and routinely in public.
  • Urinate in plain sight in public whenever I feel like it.
  • Drive over pedestrians I've struck with my car a few extra times to make sure they are dead.
  • Litter constantly and without emotion or thought.
  • Run red lights with my car.
  • Pull over on the expressway in the emergency lane to let my kid take a dump on the ground.
  • Drive illegally in the emergency lane on the highway.
  • Have a complete fear of strangers.
  • Get into car accidents to avoid losing face by way of yielding to another car.
  • Cheat on exams as often as possible.
  • Only get into fights when the other dude is outnumbered and doesn't stand a chance.
  • Throw a public tantrum whenever I lose face.
  • Wait for my parents to find a solid 4 for me to marry and procreate with.
  • Live in a lousy apartment and spend all my money on a black Audi instead.
  • Honk at pedestrians to get out of my way even when I don't have the right of way.
  • Bribe school administrators to get my student a seat in the front row of the classroom.

You just reminded me of all the high points of living in Asia, and that even in Canada here we were fortunate enough to have an import sharing their local culture of public inside urination with us:

http://www.straight.com/news/417596/cult...pping-mall

I'm not sure how this thread can be remotely serious. Although I'm happier with a Canadian passport than I would be with a US one, you're foolish not to think being born in the US automatically puts you in the luckiest 10% worldwide.

OK, you can bang girls easier and live cheaper and not have to worry about PC bullshit abroad. Great. Is it worth it to deal with the death by a thousand short sighted annoying cuts with a culture that save for your money, really doesn't want you there? Where starving to death and polio is still reality for some people? Dealing with people non-stop who never think more than 30s into the future and often times act dreadfully against their own interests (and yours) because they're too blind and stupid to see how a situation plays out?

In the book vegabonding there's a great line. It talks about the benefit of seeing other cultures and all that, but that it isn't always shared on all sides. It then goes on to mention aborigines in Oz, who feel basically once people have bought stuff and they have your money, they'd prefer you to just go away instead of having a "nice cultural exchange".

Perhaps I'm a bit of a cynic, but a lot of these places only put up with you because you have money they can relieve you of. When you start to attract poorer foreigners (Thailand), they go out of their way to make it difficult for you to stay. No matter what you'll never be looked at as an equal. I have Indo friends born there, raised in Canada, and speak native English alongside Indonesian, and are better educated and richer. Even they aren't looked at the same by locals, so what hope do you have to integrate as an equal? Even if you adopt all items on Suits's list and suspend any semblance of logical thought?

While western first world countries have their problems, thankfully stable food supplies, power and water availability, being routinely robbed and extorted by police, and risk of revolution aren't on the list. To trade that for a passing accommodation in the third world as long as your money lasts is retarded.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
Generally, if you intend to "live" in Asia you have to realize that you can never be one of them. They don't want you to be one of them. That isn't to say that they are racist or anything, but China does not have a strong history fo allowing outsiders to have political clout. You can live very comfortably here if you don't rock the boat or act like an idiot, and if you know that you can rest easy.

If the Chinese extended citizenship to too many foreigners, they'd have to allow these people some sort of political clout. No one in their right mind would agree to live in a country and raise kids if they have 0 political/financial control of their situation.

In China, that is what you have to look forward to. You have almost 0 recourse on anything bad that happens to you here. You pretty much can't own property either without being afraid of it being snatched away by local crooks or a predatory local government that starts seeing too many non-Chinese faces doing well.

Now, you can hedge against it by making sure you make good money here, but do not delude yourselves into thinking you can truly be Chinese. To them, you are always Laowai and they are always Chinese. It's just how the culture works. Us Vs Them.

The other way to hedge against this is to marry into a strong Chinese family (join a Warcraft 3 Clan) and let them be the face of any public thing that you do.

This works for some guys, but if you think you're gonna show up here and "do things the Chinese way" you're gonna be in for some serious salt.

All that said, I really enjoy living here, but I graded my expectations from the start and I stay in my lane: sloots and making money.

I will be checking my PMs weekly, so you can catch me there. I will not be posting.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
(05-19-2017 01:39 AM)BrewDog Wrote:  [quote='GlobalMan' pid='1574071' dateline='1495171992']
The United States is a "piece of shit".

Who has the highest corporate tax rate in the world? Hint: It's not Colombia.

Where can I walk down the street with a beer? Hint: It ain't the USA. They'll lock you in a cage.

Where can I buy pharmacy drugs without a prescription? What if I want contact lenses or a shot of testosterone or just a blue pill or two? That can happen in Colombia. It won't in America. I order my contact lenses from the UK and Canada because I can't fucking get them here without spending over $100 at the eye doctor EVERY TIME I NEED THEM.

I can play partypoker.com in Colombia. Not in the US.

You watch the video above and then tell me why America is the greatest. Please, enlighten us all. What makes America great? Why do you think you have freedom?

Come to Guadalajara Mexico, where the balance between Colombia and USA seems about right. Though I never been to Colombia, this is still a Latin country with tropical regions. Not the hottest/easiest girls but good enough, plus prescription-less drugs, contacts, etc. are easy to get. There's a large expat community in Chapala, Jalisco (retirees) if you wish to be in that ambient or the 3rd largest city in the country, Guadalajara, is an hour away from there. Tropical Puerto Vallarta is 3 hours away from Guadalajara though the locals are somewhat private (tourist workers are genuinely friendly towards tourists). The big city is modern with Costco's and over 6 large malls, Imax Theaters (nicest Sears you will never see in the US), museums, arts and world famous Mariachi to your heart content! There's some nice Victorian like homes in the Plaza del Sol neighborhood (reminds me of any suburban US) or you can opt for "safe" gated communities available all over the place at a much reduced rate (rent or buy) compared to the US. Not sure about corporate tax rates in Mexico but seems good since there are a lot outsourcing here. Any questions will be glad to clarify.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
I am not Chinese (just saying to let you know I am not trying to defend China)

It looks like you hate a lot about China. Then why are you there??? are they giving you a job you can't find in your country or something? or girls treat you better than your home country?

Who told you to learn bad sides within that culture?

When we talk about 'sharing cultures', it's not about sharing trash kinds.(even kids know that)

I simply said if you live in a foreign country, you should learn their cultures.

It's like someone asks me if I lived enough in states to learn about American culture and I reply with 'Im not interested in talking like white trash, smoking cracks, buying stupid shits I don't even need, becoming obese, driving a big car like their ego, ignoring geography, ignoring other languages etc'
(Just like any other countries, there are bad sides. Obviously I am only interested in positive ones. If I hate too much, then instead of bitching, I should leave. Who wants to see an adult bitching about 'yeah I hate this and that. Fuck that and fuck this' when he has a freedom to leave?)
I am sure I will appear as Happy person not Bitter person eh?

Anyways, good luck. Looks like you are having fun there.




(06-02-2017 08:26 AM)Suits Wrote:  
(06-02-2017 06:09 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  
(06-01-2017 01:12 AM)Fortis Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 08:43 AM)Suits Wrote:  
(05-20-2017 07:38 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  When you go to a certain country, you go there to live like one of them.

Really? Is this some sort of objective truth that I've never heard before?

(05-20-2017 07:38 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  (can you imagine someone saying 'hell no I won't live like americans' when they come here?)

Yes, I can.

If you lived like a true Chinese person you'd end up poorer than a Chinese person. Could you imagine beating your wife in public, misusing Chinese public funds and all that other shit the locals get away with that we'd go to Jail for 203243423 years for?

I came to China to make money, bang sloots and have fun, not pretend to be Chinese.

Fair enough.

Muslims can keep their culture and sharia law in states right?

Yes, they can and do keep their culture. And yes, they may live their lives based on Sharia if they wish and often do, provided that they do not break any local laws in the process.

(06-02-2017 06:09 AM)Sebastian Wrote:  Foreigners in U.S don't have to learn English right?

No, they do not have to learn English and they often do not.


Regarding living like the locals, I live in China and have a lot of experience obvious how the locals live.

Since you want me to live like the locals, please confirm that you'd like me to engage in all of the following activities.
  • Spit loudly and routinely in public.
  • Urinate in plain sight in public whenever I feel like it.
  • Drive over pedestrians I've struck with my car a few extra times to make sure they are dead.
  • Litter constantly and without emotion or thought.
  • Run red lights with my car.
  • Pull over on the expressway in the emergency lane to let my kid take a dump on the ground.
  • Drive illegally in the emergency lane on the highway.
  • Have a complete fear of strangers.
  • Get into car accidents to avoid losing face by way of yielding to another car.
  • Cheat on exams as often as possible.
  • Only get into fights when the other dude is outnumbered and doesn't stand a chance.
  • Throw a public tantrum whenever I lose face.
  • Wait for my parents to find a solid 4 for me to marry and procreate with.
  • Live in a lousy apartment and spend all my money on a black Audi instead.
  • Honk at pedestrians to get out of my way even when I don't have the right of way.
  • Bribe school administrators to get my student a seat in the front row of the classroom.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
(05-19-2017 02:10 PM)Sherman Wrote:  When I lived in the Netherlands, I had over a month of vacation every year. That extra time was more important to me than the extra convenience of living in the US. In the US there are people living rich in material goods, but suffering in social poverty, in one of the most isolating countries on earth. If someone is socially isolated, he may be better of finding a friendlier country. If one's core values includes comfort, than the US is probably better.

Sounds like California, where the state seems to be it's own country withing a country. Isolated to international news, everyone has a car and no one mingles/walks on the streets.
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It frankly sounds like the Chinese have it right and still remember a few things that Western nations have apparently forgotten.

That their territory and their culture are sacrosanct and that foreigners are not welcome to arrive and demand special treatment, or indeed have any expectation other than to find the exit if they feel hard done by.

Their house, their rules. I wish we were a little more like that.

Aside, Suits' breakdown of the barbaric behaviour that regularly occurs over there puts a perceived decline of the West into some measure of perspective. Even at our worst we still have a way to fall before we reach that level of inhumanity, which might be better termed unWesternly behaviour.
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Sebastian, I will respond later with a more details response, but I want to thank you for taking the time to type up your last post.

You've taken the time to not only express opinions, but actually explain your reasoning behind them.

This is how people have a discussion.

I will respond in detail when I have 30 minutes to do so properly.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
(06-02-2017 10:53 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  I am not Chinese (just saying to let you know I am not trying to defend China)

It looks like you hate a lot about China. Then why are you there??? are they giving you a job you can't find in your country or something? or girls treat you better than your home country?

Who told you to learn bad sides within that culture?

When we talk about 'sharing cultures', it's not about sharing trash kinds.(even kids know that)




Huh

I'm not even sure what you mean by the above. If you live in a place for a while you start to notice the bad things, that's called being a conscious human being. Pretending that the people around you are total angels is called being a sucker who will eventually get his ticket punched.

I'm not saying you should shit on the place that you live as an Immigrant, but to pretend that America, China, Japan, Korea, Thailand, Ukraine, Colombia, Philipines, Mexico, or any of the places we like to frequent are the lands of milk and honey is, quite frankly, bullshit. No place is perfect and if the locals don't want their shit to be known they should stop doing it.

I could probably list 100 great things about living in China, but I would also temper that list with 100 things I don't like. Is that called being a hater? No, it's called being a conscious person who gives a shit about the advice he gives out.

I could easily be a shill and say "China is the best place on earth for black men," but 2-3 dudes would show up, note the discrepancies and call me out and they should rightfully do that.

For a while, dudes were acting like there were 0 problems in Russia for foreign men, but many men have noted that it isn't all peaches and cream. These are men who have lived there, worked there, married there and have real skin in the game. They're not haters.

You cannot give one-sided portrayal of a country and turn around and say that you know that country very well.

Truth be told, I love hearing criticisms of my great nation because it means an actual human is talking to me instead of some milquetoast who is too afraid to hurt people's feelings.

Suits came to China, started up a service, provides value, speaks Chinese and has performed all the requisite actions necessary to fit in, insofar as a foreigner can fit in.

I'm not really sure why you're getting all salty when he is actually someone who essentially has learned a lot about Chinese culture, provides value in the country but has valid criticisms of the way the people live and interact with others. Fuck, even other Chinese people have grievances with the things suits have listed, but you act as though he is somehow ungrateful and bad for noticing these things?

I know you said you're not Chinese, but the way you react to criticism of Asian cultures really has me wondering if you might not have some hidden Chinese programming going on. "You have insulted the chinese people! You should apologize to Xi Jin Ping!!!!"

lol

I will be checking my PMs weekly, so you can catch me there. I will not be posting.
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This is purely as a third person observer, but I am getting the sense that part of Suits' hostility towards Chinese culture has less to do with anything inherently wrong or backwards about Chinese and more towards the broader society itself.

Reading Suits' posts reminds me of Debito Arudou where he went into Japan with the hope of being accepted by mainstream society after learning the language and adopting some of the culture, only to be shoved to the periphery in perpetuity due to being ethnically different from the majority.

I may be wrong, but I couldn't help but pick up on the parallels between the tone and content of what Suits was saying and the case of Debito Arudou.
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Suits is nothing like Debito Arudou, who was a pushy faggot who tried to become a Japanese person without having the slightest idea of what a Japanese person actually IS. I have no idea how you live in Japan long enough to get permanent residency and still somehow think Debito Arudou is an actual name that you can call yourself. (It's hard to express how ridiculous a name like that is if you don't speak Japanese. Maybe imagine a Japanese guy named Tarou Tanaka giving himself an English name of Cowboy McTitsmaster, because hey, Americans are all about cowboys and tits, right?) The few times I've had the misfortune to read his Japanese writing, I've been struck by how atrocious it is. It bears no relationship to the way Japanese people actually talk or write, and follows slavishly to the most formal styles of writing imaginable. Every single word he writes drips with "I am a better Japanese person than you, the actual Japanese, and therefore you must do what I tell you!" (Dude is a huge SJW too, which doesn't help.)

I don't know if Suits' observations are true, because I've never been to China and have no intention of going, but they certainly ring true to me, and he's definitely nothing like that fag Arudou.
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(06-03-2017 02:23 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Suits is nothing like Debito Arudou, who was a pushy faggot who tried to become a Japanese person without having the slightest idea of what a Japanese person actually IS.

I don't know if Suits' observations are true, because I've never been to China and have no intention of going, but they certainly ring true to me, and he's definitely nothing like that fag Arudou.

I am not saying that there is a 1 to 1 relationship between Suits and Debito.

What I am saying though is if you look at the hostility as an outside observer living outside of East Asia, the hostility that Suits and Debito exhibit look the same on the surface and appears to have the same underlying motivations even if they are completely different people.

Obviously they are totally different people. Debito has transformed into a frothing at the mouth SJW, while Suits is working towards becoming an entrepreneur. Still the reason why both of them feel frustration towards East Asian culture could be for the same reasons.
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Suits IS an entrepreneur.
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(06-03-2017 03:17 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  Suits IS an entrepreneur.

I thought you had to have sales to be an entrepreneur or do you just make up rules on the fly?
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(06-03-2017 03:11 PM)All or Nothing Wrote:  What I am saying though is if you look at the hostility as an outside observer living outside of East Asia, the hostility that Suits and Debito exhibit look the same on the surface and appears to have the same underlying motivations even if they are completely different people.

Obviously they are totally different people. Debito has transformed into a frothing at the mouth SJW, while Suits is working towards becoming an entrepreneur. Still the reason why both of them feel frustration towards East Asian culture could be for the same reasons.

I don't see them as similar at all. Debito's fundamental complaint is that he wants to be Japanese, and those mean Japanese won't accept him because they're just so xenophobic and terrible. Why won't they understand how awesome he is, and let him belong to their cool club of Japanese people?

Suits' complaints seem to be that many of the locals in China behave like animals. I've heard his complaints echoed by many actual Chinese people, which leads me to believe that he's probably seen everything he says he's seen.

The two are nothing alike at all.
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(06-03-2017 03:28 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  
(06-03-2017 03:11 PM)All or Nothing Wrote:  What I am saying though is if you look at the hostility as an outside observer living outside of East Asia, the hostility that Suits and Debito exhibit look the same on the surface and appears to have the same underlying motivations even if they are completely different people.

Obviously they are totally different people. Debito has transformed into a frothing at the mouth SJW, while Suits is working towards becoming an entrepreneur. Still the reason why both of them feel frustration towards East Asian culture could be for the same reasons.

I don't see them as similar at all. Debito's fundamental complaint is that he wants to be Japanese, and those mean Japanese won't accept him because they're just so xenophobic and terrible. Why won't they understand how awesome he is, and let him belong to their cool club of Japanese people?

Suits' complaints seem to be that many of the locals in China behave like animals. I've heard his complaints echoed by many actual Chinese people, which leads me to believe that he's probably seen everything he says he's seen.

The two are nothing alike at all.

Yeah, I could be wrong. I guess I was trying to take a crack at understanding the underlying issue.

I have not been to parts of the world that would not be considered "Western", so I was trying to put Suits complaints into a context I could understand better as an outsider to the frustrations that he is facing.

Also, Suits I wish you the best of luck in China and I know you will do well at entrepreneurship given that you are smart hardworking guy.
06-03-2017 03:53 PM
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
Yeah, Debito is a uniquely weird character, and it's kind of hard to get a handle on the way in which he's weird unless you have a decent grasp of Japanese society.

The way I view Suit's complaints is this: there are certain things about a society, any society, which suck. But if you grow up in that society, you just kind of accept them as "the way things are", and you don't really think about them. For example, in the US, we think it's normal to have to drive to the store to buy what we need. I drove to my local grocery store this morning to get some dish soap, for instance. You might've gone too. I bet you didn't give it a second thought.

Driving to the store as opposed to walking is insanely unhealthy.

If you spend 20 minutes walking to the store, 20 minutes walking around the store, and 20 minutes coming back, you'll burn in the realm of 100 calories. Throw in all the other little things you drive to (your commute, for instance, or that time you had to go to the doctor's office) and you're looking at in the realm of 3500 calories a month or more. That's a pound of fat coming off, every month, just by living your life.

One of the biggest reasons Americans are so unhealthy and obese is that we drive everywhere instead of walking. But have you ever given a second thought to this? Have you ever said, "Man I hate driving everywhere. I wish I got to walk." If so, you're in the minority. 99% of Americans don't think this way.

But if someone were to move from Asia to the US, and live the exact same lifestyle they lived back home, eating the same foods, working the same job, going to the gym the same amount, they'd find themselves putting on a ton of weight. They'd probably say to themselves "Man, I miss walking everywhere. That was so good for my diet."

In the same way, there's stuff about China that sucks (Callousness, rampant cheating, etc.), but when you grow up with it as a part of life, you're inured to it. That's just how things are. But if you move in as a foreigner, all this stuff is new and shocking to you. You find it annoying and unpleasant in a way that someone who lived there all their life is won't. This isn't to say that the things Suits is describing don't bother Chinese people (No one likes to see people shitting on the side of the road), but they bother him worse than they would someone who spent their whole life in Beijing, just like a Chinese immigrant who moved here might find the pounds they were gaining now that they had to drive to work instead of walk infuriating.

That's my take on it, and it's definitely something to think about if you're seriously thinking about moving abroad.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
(06-03-2017 04:37 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  That's my take on it, and it's definitely something to think about if you're seriously thinking about moving abroad.

Thank you for clearing things up for me. I guess I was trying to seek out some kind of deeper meaning to the frustrations, when it is just conflicting lifestyles. Also, I will keep this discussion in mind if I ever plan to travel abroad to wildly different cultures.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
Go for it OP I feel you will learn from living life and the wisdom it brings. The only thing I would say to do is to realize the power grids are garbage things are not as realible here. If I were you I would move on from marriage once you are settled down in and she did everything leave her and get pussy.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
(06-03-2017 02:23 PM)SamuelBRoberts Wrote:  Suits is nothing like Debito Arudou, who was a pushy faggot who tried to become a Japanese person without having the slightest idea of what a Japanese person actually IS. I have no idea how you live in Japan long enough to get permanent residency and still somehow think Debito Arudou is an actual name that you can call yourself. (It's hard to express how ridiculous a name like that is if you don't speak Japanese. Maybe imagine a Japanese guy named Tarou Tanaka giving himself an English name of Cowboy McTitsmaster, because hey, Americans are all about cowboys and tits, right?) The few times I've had the misfortune to read his Japanese writing, I've been struck by how atrocious it is. It bears no relationship to the way Japanese people actually talk or write, and follows slavishly to the most formal styles of writing imaginable. Every single word he writes drips with "I am a better Japanese person than you, the actual Japanese, and therefore you must do what I tell you!" (Dude is a huge SJW too, which doesn't help.)

I don't know if Suits' observations are true, because I've never been to China and have no intention of going, but they certainly ring true to me, and he's definitely nothing like that fag Arudou.

The scenes he was making sound incredibly un-Japanese (and un-cool in general). So much so his wife divorced him shortly afterwards.
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RE: Are there any reasons NOT to expatriate from the U.S.?
I didnt get salty. I simply said you should learn some cultures if you want to live there and he listed things he hates like i really offended him.

Go outside, meet some people and start bitching (for discussion?) like that. They will either abandon you or they will join you because they are in the same situation (hate the life but cant get out of there)

Btw i apologize not saying clearly. I think I shouldve said 'you should learn Good parts of the culture' (for those who didnt get it)
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