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RE: Where are all the 8s – An open question
(05-28-2017 12:46 AM)Travesty Wrote:  
(05-27-2017 10:00 PM)Jagnum Wrote:  Distant Light has some posts, but I don’t think anyone’s written a book about this.

Some guy that was an English black guy moved to L.A. and did the Distant Light thing. Wrote a book named the Social Circle Blueprint or something close to that.

This guy's game was the same as Distant Light's. Be a light hearted fun guy loving life and hang out where high status people hang out.

This guy hung out at L.A. trendy hotel lobby bars.

When I say hang out that means 5-7 nights a week you are out on the scene. There is definitely a time investment and you have to love being in and around the scene. The only way to just check in and out when you want is as always $ or fame.

Distant Light is a good-looking cool black Hipster with party vibe in NYC and having Game. He found a niche by crashing high-end parties and clubs and getting the girls.

99% of men won't be able to replicate his success, but the few who will may be able to eek out a lifestyle out of it, though it is far more effective if you are also rich.

As for Christian McQueen - he has been in the club scene and knows his way around, but he also approaches constantly during the day. That is also not such a big surprise for a charismatic good-looking guy with Game who found a specific niche for himself.

There are also the grinders like Nick Krauser who learned Game the hard way and approached thousands mostly in Eastern European/FSU locations honing their Game. There are certainly more 8s there, but getting them is a Master level endeavor and in a way a niche as well, though requiring far less cash, just time, skill and determination. Also the conversion rate of banging 1 girl out of 20 approaches is not so bad - I would not call this spam-approaching.
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RE: Where are all the 8s – An open question
(05-26-2017 05:09 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  Here's one:

https://www.instagram.com/annelisejr/?hl=en

She looks to be a slightly above average, very late's 30's or early 40's woman, who takes glamour shots and has underwent some cosmetic procedures. At best, after photoshopping she would be an 8 on paper (literally in print only). Real life, in person, maybe a 6 and a half.
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RE: Where are all the 8s – An open question
To be honest, if you are asking such question, you probably are not the person who can keep up with those.
Its like a guy asking where rich/upper class people are. Maybe he became successful overnight and dont know where to go?
05-28-2017 01:10 PM
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^ You sound like a Euro pansy with that gay backhand talk.

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You sound like a 3rd world country lover.
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You can't replicate another man's life or copy the value he provides. It has to be YOU.

Identify what you're good at and determine a way to turn it in to value that other people can benefit from. Or take the harder route, which is developing a business or product that people will give you money for. Understand that this is HARD stuff and requires CREATIVITY. I wish I had better advice but there is none. If you are completely lost, try new things every single day until you find a system or idea that works.

For example - OP, if you have the balls to cold approach a beautiful chick at the mall and be even quasi-succesful, realize more than 99% of guys cannot do this. I'd guess you do not have much fear of rejection and have the social skills to make new connections for yourself or create introductions between others. I don't even know you, but that's a start.

How can YOU use these talents in YOUR day-to-day to advance your life and social circle? You tell me.
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RE: Where are all the 8s – An open question
(05-28-2017 04:26 PM)Sebastian Wrote:  You sound like a 3rd world country lover.

Wow, you sure showed him. tard

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More and more if I continue to post on the forum it will be to stress how guys should look deeper into the problem they already know --- that being a cold player with notches is as vapid as the hoes, ultimately. I get it, I get it, time goes by and yes you wanna bang that 8 again if you can. But isn't the reality, where all this eventually leads, isn't it obvious once you've seen everyone's posts here and their knowledge? I think even most have gleaned this from Roosh, who knows where it all should lead: lock down the quality woman that compliments you and leads to better things for you, her, your culture and society. Even if the society is fucked, still try.

That said, if you are lucky to get an 8 to do that with you, great --- but we know the external factors make that SO hard for them and us. Deep down all of us are striving for that properly raised 7 that's just super pleasant to be around all the time, you want to be around her, she still passes the boner test, and she's with you through thick and thin.

Here is to hoping we all can find that.
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RE: Where are all the 8s – An open question
(05-27-2017 09:22 PM)Eugenics Wrote:  G manifesto is on some real shit and I believe he's been vetted by several members.

It's been debated before, but ftr, he made 10k posts here and refused to meet anybody. I recall one exchange towards the end of his stay where Elmech asked him to simply take a pic of his closet to prove he owned all these high end threads and he completely evaded it.

On a personal note, the few alleged interactions with women I read from him reminded me of the silly "cool guy" act I thought would get me laid when I was a raw beginner - and usually just got me an eyeroll and a cold shoulder. Not a character to emulate, IMO.

McQueen and Distant Light know their shit though, although I wouldn't let McQueen hold my wallet from what's been written about him.
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Thanks for the explanation Gorgiass.



I have always suspected that G Manifesto is fake. I mean, how can you work out (without dying) when you drank tons of alcohol (and slept a few hours only) the day before?


I have tried to run his ''suit game'' before, when I was still new, and the only type of women I have managed to attract were older ones (25+) or gold diggers. Even when I toned it down, nothing changed, to be honest.


I do not know about much about CMC and Distant Light, but I'll check their posts. Hopefully, I can learn something from them Smile

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My mistake I totally thought a few people must have met G manifesto from his huge post count and community interaction.

I used to enjoy his posts a lot but I don't run big baller game so I never tried any of it.
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(05-26-2017 12:23 AM)Jagnum Wrote:  The question is where do you find these women?

Well, I think the first thing is that you have to live in a large metropolitan area that has at least one large university in the area.

Then, it just comes down to identifying where all of the young people tend to live inside of that metro area. Generally, this will be near the university. After that it comes down to finding out the specific sandwich places, coffee shops, and bars that the hot girls like to congregate.

I have noticed that hot girls generally like to congregate at specific sandwich places, coffee shops, and bars over other ones. It seems to almost be like some sort of status competition.
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(05-26-2017 05:09 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  Here's one:

https://www.instagram.com/annelisejr/?hl=en

Hideous pretending to be hot. look at the video of her; https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh40-jvHwdq/
Look at her cheeks, lips, botoxed forehead, insect eyebrows, fake teeth, fake tits, fillers everywhere so fake and her voice. She is skinny fat. yuk.
So gross. Hate women like this. In person she would be abhorrent.

Not to insult the poster- look at her # of followers, people think she is hot. I just like natural women.

The other posters are correct- you need money, you need to be at the top end of the income scale to have any kind of relationship with western 9s and 10s.
Lots of moneyed sons of wealthy parents out there for them to choose from.
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They are all on Instagram and tinder. 8's and above have little incentive to go out when they can just post scantily clad pictures of themselves online and get unfathomable amounts of attention. One particular girl I was banging who was an 8(probably more like a 7.5) left her phone unlocked and unattended with me when she went to use the bathroom. Me being the curious guy that I am looked through it quickly. No kidding; her Instagram inbox had about 40 unopened messages and she had further 22 unread on imessage. When you can get that kind of attention from the comfort of your own home there is really no need to go out. the vast majority of 8's and above have figured this out. Which is why clubs/bars are saturated with 5's-6's since these women cannot rely as heavily on social media/dating apps to get their attention fix.
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(10-02-2018 02:05 PM)JonVonstroke Wrote:  They are all on Instagram and tinder.

They make themselves 'available' to everyone on Instagram and tinder.
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I consistently meet and get the numbers of 8s and up.

Here is my small piece of advice, noting I'm not a game expert, I would say in quite good at meeting and introducing.

I find my single 8s through social circle. Plain and simple. Any quality girl is rarely going out to the club or bar without a guy who will buy her drinks. Being a city is a huge plus and being in high value places. I meet alot of girls at my law school. High class clubs are another good place, again beware because many will be taken at the club.
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The OP clearly has never set foot in Miami or LA. You can swing a cat blindfolded on South Beach and you're guaranteed to hit an 8
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(10-02-2018 01:11 PM)wp960 Wrote:  
(05-26-2017 05:09 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  Here's one:

https://www.instagram.com/annelisejr/?hl=en

Hideous pretending to be hot. look at the video of her; https://www.instagram.com/p/Bh40-jvHwdq/
Look at her cheeks, lips, botoxed forehead, insect eyebrows, fake teeth, fake tits, fillers everywhere so fake and her voice. She is skinny fat. yuk.
So gross. Hate women like this. In person she would be abhorrent.

Not to insult the poster- look at her # of followers, people think she is hot. I just like natural women.

The other posters are correct- you need money, you need to be at the top end of the income scale to have any kind of relationship with western 9s and 10s.
Lots of moneyed sons of wealthy parents out there for them to choose from.

Good luck convincing her she's not hot cause she's had enhancements. You're fighting a losing battle with that one bub.
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(10-02-2018 02:05 PM)Jefferson Wrote:  True beauty now resides in Korea

Those Asians really dollop on the slap though. Many are just a white/beige mask. They really don't do well once it comes off. They look very boyish and the structure of their face can be very peculiar.

I would go for Russia. There are plenty of good looking girls with no to low makeup on accounts of the slinkiness and not using makeup encourages naturally better skin.

Given the level to which female beauty levels have been pushed, it's very hard to push past a 7.5 without makeup. The now 100,000s? of working girls on Instagram are professionals at looking hot. We've not had that before. Go back and look at the old playgirls:

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The muscle tone would barely get them 10,000 followers now.

A few trips to Dubai and they can have a full make over surgery. Joan Rivers has pushed the prices down.

Then they have diets, supplements, 2-3 hour workouts, endless facials and regular visits to the non-invasive lipo clinic to laser down to 10-12% BF.

All this has jaded us as to what an 8 is. You're not going to see many in comparison. I'd prefer it if women stopped wearing makeup, we'd reduce our expectations and we'd know what we we're getting.

I met this guy from a wealthy Indian family and he told me a girl he know hooked up with a Westerner. Within a month they were engaged. Then one day the groom-to-be wakes up and finds a strange woman in his apartment. It was his wife to be, without makeup. The wedding never happened.

For settling down I'm looking for a 7.5 without makeup. Give her a pumice stone, a cucmber mask and some tweezers and she can work on her actually natural beauty and not spend $1,000 on obscuring her natural beauty with pore-wrecking face masks.

As for the distribution. As per OKCupid data:

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Guys: 5% of girls are an 8
Girls: 1% of guys are an 8

The golden ratio: 80:20.

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The real problem with Asians is not make-up. It's the teeth. Because their lower jaws are narrower their teeth don't have enough space and often grow crooked or seem too large for the petite face.

Make-up does make a huge difference and can turn a 7 into an 8, but you can not make a new face with make-up. If she looks like a dog make-up will not turn her into an 8. If she looks like an 8 with make-up she most likely has an attractive face. Unless a Hollywood special effects person got to work.

I agree though, Russians are probably the second most beautiful women around. A beautiful Korean is something else though, that porcelain skin, slender build, sultry eyes and girlish look, oh mama...
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(10-02-2018 02:42 PM)quaker13 Wrote:  The OP clearly has never set foot in Miami or LA. You can swing a cat blindfolded on South Beach and you're guaranteed to hit an 8

Exactly, go out like...anywhere in SoBe or NYC and you'll see dozens of 8s daytime or night.
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(05-26-2017 10:37 AM)Banna Wrote:  I'd rather have a 7 - 7.5 that can be taken down that's into me and loves sex than some high maintenance 8 or 9 I'll have to follow to the end of the earth.

THIS
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(05-26-2017 02:08 PM)Eddie Winslow Wrote:  
(05-26-2017 10:49 AM)C-Note Wrote:  8s and 9s often congregate around wealth, power, and status. So, think of events, organizations, and places that are related to that community, and that's where you will find a lot of them. Also, any place women go to help them leverage their looks to promote themselves, like model photographers, upscale beauty salons, fitness clubs, etc.

That being said - college is indeed the great equalizer. Everyone eats at the same dining hall, takes the same exams, and goes to the same parties. 19 year old girls are insecure and still haven't fully realized the value of their beauty. Being part of a cool frat and providing free jungle juice is all you need to tap into the highest quality your school has to offer.

Wanted to add that this is far from the truth, if anything, I would argue it is the toughest to get an 8 or above in college than probably at any other time in your life.

Cool frat?

Good luck with that. Most top houses vet carefully for a lot of factors, often out of your control, when deciding who to give a bid to. At my school, they checked to see where you grew up high school wise and if you went to high school in the nice part of town. Then add to that your parents' salary to see if it is even worth having you around.

I think college is by far the most overhyped thing in game discussions, it is a mirage for most men even if they are handsome with game. Social circles are extremely tight to where sleeping around with anyone outside of them is social suicide to most girls.
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"I want a 6 or 7 that's nice and not a 9 that's high maintance"

That is so fucking bullshit. Stop having limiting beliefs. There are plenty of 8-9's that are fucking awesome girls. I'd bet there are a higher percentage of 8-9's that are cool and nice than 6-7's simply because of this bullshit. 6's are hit on more than 9's because dudes in general are pussies. They have much higher bitch shields and for the most part think they're much hotter than they are.

Become a 7-10, and find an 8-10. Stop limiting your mindset.

Pro tip: Go to small college towns in the US. Lots of super cute white girls that have no idea how hot they are, and you get a bonus for being someone not from bumfuck nowhere.
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