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edit: Football analysis, moving it to the other thread, delete.
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Viral tweet shared by the Renegade of Funk - black software engineer living in Japan:

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^^^^ Most of those guys, if not all, were born in France, therefore they are French players. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

The coach will put the best players he thinks will give his team a chance to win, regardless of race.
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(07-07-2018 07:18 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  Blacks and mixed raced(mostly white-Asian in the general populn) people are just 3 and 5% of Britain's population respectively, but a huge part of the England team. And sadly, this will be used against black people too. The unscrupulous will say "oh black people are genetically gifted at football, but not so gifted for office jobs".

I made a misquote. It was 3% blacks in the popln and 2% "mixed" race - 2/3rds of those would be Asian. Bearing in mind the England team is now majority black or mixed race, something VERY weird is going on.

(07-07-2018 08:40 PM)911 Wrote:  
(07-07-2018 07:18 PM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  A while back I'd have been delighted at England reaching the semifinals. But TBH I just feel very flat about it.
Partly because Russia got knocked out. Also because I feel football and England in particular has become some giant Neo Liberal Globalist propaganda exercise.

Now I've got friends even family who are of African descent. And many of my favourite players are black. And I'm really against racial supremacy type bullshit. But if black people and mixed race people are a tiny part of Britain's popln, why are so few England players white, compared to what theb statistical probability would be? My view is that its all like some giant grooming exercise ie mega mass immigration propaganda on us. We see the same with the disgusting promotion of tranny and homo-ishness to kids at matches. And promoting dykelike "women's football" as "normal".

Blacks and mixed raced(mostly white-Asian in the general populn) people are just 3 and 5% of Britain's population respectively, but a huge part of the England team. And sadly, this will be used against black people too. The unscrupulous will say "oh black people are genetically gifted at football, but not so gifted for office jobs".
Which is ofcourse utter nonsense.

I'm massively against much of the huge over-immigration we've seen into Britain. For various reasons, I just feel the England thing is being used as a bread and circuses type thing by the Liberal Globalist gang. And I mean that for various reasons, only some of which I've mentioned here. So after cheering the win in a slightly subdued way I'm kind of scratching my head a bit now.

PS that Sodomites "Pride" flag makes my skin crawl. I hope Russia arrests the perpetrators.
PPS I kind of feel we're being told "we're all united as England" is a bit of a lie. We're divided by culture, geography, beliefs, social class, morals, national identity, race, politics and more. How much does a fundamentalist Muslim British passport holder (in a mono-ethnic area in Halifax) have in common with an indigeneous Brit from Newcastle? Very likely less than an Irish, Aussie or Dutch guy!

The proportion of black/mixed race youth is probably higher than 3%-5%, and you have a demographic that is many times more motivated to break into pro soccer than the general population. I'm OK with teams like England or France having more Blacks as long as they're domestic (born/raised at home).

On the use of the promotion of homosexuality as a cultural weapon by the oligarchs against the population, this is a very sharp short take by E. Michael Jones that might help you understand the deeper social dynamics and agenda:





https://youtu.be/d-OXt5NWcRs

Yes the number of black and mixed among young people is higher.
But even at secondary school age, on a pro rata basis, you would only statistically expect 5.8% of England players to be black.5 % of sec school kids are classed as "mixed race", acc to the Dept for Education's own stats.

(07-07-2018 11:34 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Bellytygr - In the last World Cup, England finished last in the group stage.
England didn't even win a game, they loss two games and tied with Costa Rica.
They only managed to score 2 goals in the whole tournament, imagine being a fan and travelling all the way to Brazil for that performance.
That was considered the last tournament for the "golden" generation. Nothing was golden about their performance.
Rooney, Gerrard, Lampard and Terry were the main players on that team, four years on and none of them are playing in the premier league.

Fast forward to this World Cup, they have a chance of getting into a World Cup final. Do you really think anyone in England, cares about how many "darkies" are on the team.

England hasn't won a tournament of even gotten to a final, since 1966. They didn't qualify for the World Cup in 74, 78 and 94.
Half of these countries playing today, didn't have a team in 74.
Scotland qualified in 74 and 78, England didn't.
Even Zaire was in the tournament. Do you know what Zaire is called today?

So my point is that those England teams would have been all white. Yet, they couldn't make a World Cup with much inferior opposition.

To answer your question, no they cannot field an all white team.
The team that they have today consists of all English born players, except Sterling. He is crap and I wish they would start Rashford.

All this race, sjw, globalization and conspiracy talk makes some of you guys look retarded.

Sit back, relax and enjoy the beautiful game.

The last W Cup team was equally black and white. And it was utter shite.

The objection of people black and white is that football is no longer football. Its become an SJW propaganda tool. (On pitch matters are in the other thread).

We're saying that white people, like black people, shouldn't be the victims of "racism". But some people here are suggesting that is "racist" against blacks. Wow, this thread is turning like a Clinton supporters rally!

And one person here (I can't find the post) claimed it was because white people can't be bothered to be professional footballers these days!!

Well its funny how ALL the British superstars in recent times were white. Bale, Kane, Rooney, Gerrard, Owen, Shearer (I won't say Beckham), Rush etc. The nearest black player was Barnes(once my favourite player), who was fat and lazy as fuck, sadly. Ferdinand, Ince, A Cole, fantastic players but not superstars.

If we had so called "equal opportunity" it'd be one black player, one/two Asians, the rest "British British". But that doesn't fit the libtard globalists agenda does it!

My uncle is black and he said to me "yeah that's right, black people can be anything they want in the Establishment's eyes, provided he's a footballer, rapper, entertainer or criminal". His view was that football was actually harming integration because the stereotypes of "all blacks are great footballers" would be mirrored with "whites are better in office jobs".

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This is my view of whats happened. The Establishment wanted to groom football fans. Because footie has traditionally been the voice of the working man. Just look at Football Lads United today. It started with sports"science" ie quackery which takes its orders from the SJW fringe at our universities. They'd peddle the myth that whites (yeah
like Ronaldo, Bale, Mess, Suarez) were physically inferior.So they said more blacks needed to be selected early on. Local authorities, the Blair govt (and Conservatives), SJW/Neo Lib Globalist media and some owners joined in. By making the nation teams look like 90s Benetton ads, it was a way of selling their vision. Much more immigrant based - meaning cheap labour for the global PLCs. And votes for the "liberals" who'd taken over Labour AND Conservative Party in chunks.

So how did they get clubs doing this?Well local authorities were in on the agenda very early. Clubs are in poorish areas usually. Authorities could help with planning regs, cheap or even free land for stadia and more (Man City even got a virtuall free stadium from their council!)
. The deal was that clubs would locate training and selection operations where they were tapping into immigrant areas/mixed areas, not the areas their matching going fans actually lived! This tended to be inner cities etc.

National govt was in on it too. Favourable tax regimes for foreign stars and the taxation of clubs, support in promoting the EPL abroad are just some of the devices. I know a former chairman who discussed this with me. There's numerous owners of PL clubs who are card carrying members of the "Liberal Globalist" gang. There's hardly any British owners, so the "internationalism" of English football is ofcourse something they'd embrace. Likewise the globalist corporations like Coca Cola, Standard Chartered, McDonalds who often make stipulations in their investments which are designed for global and globalist exposure. Ofcourse, sell Coca Cola in Africa by having an African in England wear it on his shirt!

We're even seeing the next step with the plan to have refugees(real or otherwise) playing in the Prem Lge. Academies, training clubs, scouting etc will be focussed on them. Yet huge chunks of Britain (outside the inner cities) have no help or interest from football club's development officers. That's a main reason why white Brits are so underrepresented in English football.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/foot...87940.html


http://farenet.org/campaigns/refugees-fo...-database/

https://www.worldvision.com.au/global-is...e-football

I wonder what will be next? "Transsexual" women as compulsory quota? Compulsory mixed sex teams? Tranny men? We're already seeing rainbow armbands.

We're not against black, Chinese, or Eskimo players in England or whatever teams. We just want proper representation.

All people want is fair play. For black players and white. And infinitely less of the SJW bullshit.
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It's sad that you get so worked up on something that's initially destined to be so simple.

There is no freaking anti-white conspiracy. Dear Lord, just relax and enjoy it. The white (or black or anything) players not selected were just not good enough.


The mere fact that we don't care is assumed by you to be jewish/muslim conspiration, SJW tactics, or something "not right". "Everyone who does not agree with me is a SJW". So what,by the way? Being a SJW does not mean being a piece of shit. Nor means manoeuvering for the destruction of white race. There is no pressure about "reducing white people". The only angle of attack that would be remotely relevant is the starisation of football (which transcends race). That's another debate.

I bet neither of you has even set foot on a stadium for years. NOBODY cares about the alt/right conspiration thories. You are not entitled to ask for any "fair representation". Nor are Rudebwoy, me, Strikeback or anyone. If you want to whiten the team, make kids more talented than the current squads.

This reminds me of people who always link everything to hypergamy or feminism stuff even in presence of people who are a happy couple /married, and just wanted to spend a good time with you. It's like a reflex. Something just unavoidable.


It's as silly as a newbie who just discovered game, and see every single conversation with a woman as a process of seduction. You just come off as uncalibrated and weird. And as bizarre as a robot.

Just imagine this thread and the other ones are small talk about football. That we are hanging out in a bar and just want to sing songs, thrashtalk a bit the rival teams and see impressive/combative/tactical/kick and rush football. Can you?

Reserve race concerns for topics more suited such as marriage or even welfare. And stop seeing SJW in everything.

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(07-09-2018 06:54 AM)mikado Wrote:  It's sad that you get so worked up on something that's initially destined to be so simple.

There is no freaking anti-white conspiracy. Dear Lord, just relax and enjoy it. The white (or black or anything) players not selected were just not good enough.


The mere fact that we don't care is assumed by you to be jewish/muslim conspiration, SJW tactics, or something "not right". "Everyone who does not agree with me is a SJW". So what,by the way? Being a SJW does not mean being a piece of shit. Nor means manoeuvering for the destruction of white race. There is no pressure about "reducing white people". The only angle of attack that would be remotely relevant is the starisation of football (which transcends race). That's another debate.

I bet neither of you has even set foot on a stadium for years. The state is not taking your money to fund anything football/related. Get it? NOBODY cares about the alt/right conspiration theories.
This reminds me of people who always link everything to hypergamy or feminism stuff even in presence of people who are a happy couple /married, and just wanted to spend a good time with you. It's like a reflex. Something just unavoidable.


It's as silly as a newbie who just discovered game, and see every single conversation with a woman as a process of seduction. You just come off as uncalibrated and weird. And as bizarre as a robot.

Just imagine this thread and the other ones are small talk about football. That we are hanging out in a bar and just want to sing songs, thrashtalk a bit the rival teams and see impressive/combative/tactical/kick and rush football. Can you?

Reserve race concerns for topics more suited such as marriage or even welfare. And stop seeing SJW in everything.

But you're Senegalese - ofcourse u'd say that : D
Over 75% of England team aged men are white, only about 7% are black/black mixed. Yet the team is less than 50% white. I had a PL chairman tell me that quotas were heavily suggested to them in the training of players.

Sadio Mane and Mo Salah are my favourite players for my club. I'm delighted they are ahead of some of the rubbishey English players we've had over the years (Stewart Downing, Jay Spearing etc). But when huge majorities white kids are being ignored by academies and clubs because... they're white, then things really have to change. Anyway, I'm outta this thread : )

PS as an African how would you feel if you took your little kids to a match and the club had 12 x sixyear old kids carrying a giant rainbow flag round the pitch. And the flag read "Support Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex and Queer"? Then you maea post criticising it on Twitter/Facebook (non abusive) and then you get banned from Twitter/FB! Some clubs even threaten to ban/did ban their own season ticket holding fans for criticising SJWism on social media!

Sadly football IS politics nowadays.

PPS I only replied to your edited post. I'm not "right wing". I'm actually a Socialist (modern type not cloth cap bullshit). BTW I'm a season ticket holder, have been for many years. Having known club chairmen, I probably know more about English football than you, yes? : ) Fair play for all races? Not an unreasonable ask, surely?
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I like that this thread turned into a political/race thread.

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(07-09-2018 07:26 AM)Fortis Wrote:  I like that this thread turned into a political/race thread.

There's a Soccer Only thread a few spots above.
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^ And that thread is now over 50 pages long with this thread having a years headstart over it. Seems to me most people just want to talk football. Fuck politics, race, and all assorted bullshit. Just football. Christ, if you are so wound up in a football thread, how the hell do you run game on the women in your life?
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Gotta love it. All you guys who are struggling to root for their home country's team because there's too many black guys on the team, what a pathetic joke. England is on the cusp of getting to their first World Cup final since the 60s and you guys are whining about how it's not a team filled with white guys who did it, so it doesn't really count. Even beloved Russia had a Brazilian on their team since, oh I don't know, maybe teams want to win and don't care about the race make up of their teams (oh wait he was a white Brazilian so I guess that makes it better). You guys whine so much about race and end up being so miserable, unable to enjoy even the simplest of pleasures. I love ice hockey, it's my favorite sport by far but you don't see me crying about how there aren't enough brown and black guys playing the sport, I could care less. Nowadays, there's no topic on this forum that you WRTs won't infect with your negativity. Sad.
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(07-09-2018 02:25 PM)El Padrone Wrote:  ^ And that thread is now over 50 pages long with this thread having a years headstart over it. Seems to me most people just want to talk football. Fuck politics, race, and all assorted bullshit. Just football. Christ, if you are so wound up in a football thread, how the hell do you run game on the women in your life?

They don't run game. That's the point.

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But you're Senegalese - ofcourse u'd say that : D
Over 75% of England team aged men are white, only about 7% are black/black mixed. Yet the team is less than 50% white. I had a PL chairman tell me that quotas were heavily suggested to them in the training of players.

Sadio Mane and Mo Salah are my favourite players for my club. I'm delighted they are ahead of some of the rubbishey English players we've had over the years (Stewart Downing, Jay Spearing etc). But when huge majorities white kids are being ignored by academies and clubs because... they're white, then things really have to change. Anyway, I'm outta this thread : )

PS as an African how would you feel if you took your little kids to a match and the club had 12 x sixyear old kids carrying a giant rainbow flag round the pitch. And the flag read "Support Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex and Queer"? Then you maea post criticising it on Twitter/Facebook (non abusive) and then you get banned from Twitter/FB! Some clubs even threaten to ban/did ban their own season ticket holding fans for criticising SJWism on social media!

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Bullshit

Could it be that they aren't good enough.
I mean it is not like black athletes dominate most sports.

Last year the under 17s won the World Cup for England. Looks like 8 or 9 black boys on the team.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/liv...final-live

Out of the four teams left in the tournament, 3 are obviously diverse. So I am sure you will be cheering for Croatia.

As you can see the World Cup always favours European teams, it usually takes a super team from Latin America for them to hoist the cup. Which makes it more laughable when countries like Holland and Italy don't make the tournament, I guess beating malta, faroe islands, Andorra and Luxembourg is too much.

With the expansion, they are making sure teams like America have a better chance of making the tournament. Being the host country in 2026 will guarantee they are in the tournament.

Now for you racists, be racist. To me your just another internet troll, so own it.
Don't hide when you get called out or when someone show you up.

Don't act like a bitch and start blaming sjws, globalists and the tooth fairy.

Don't tell me about your black uncle or your mixed raced friend, that is typical racist talk. I am not impressed by that.
There is nothing wrong with liking your race, but all the other shit is lame as fuck. This is a game forum about self-improvement, this isn't a Nazi hate group.
Talk that shit on the political threads, not on a football thread.

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Seriously, enough with these white race trolls. Every fucking thread is being hijacked by these douchebag WRTs. You know what guys, I have news for you. You internet warriors ain't taking back shit from the Feminazis, the SJWs and the Leftists with your pathetic navel gazing and depressing negativity and endless posting. Like Bushido and El Padrone said, you guys aren't doing much of anything with your lives so you come on here and spend all day posting about complete and utter nonsense. If shit gets turned around in the West, it sure as hell won't be because of losers like you guys. At least Neubache finally had the sense to step away and actually focus on his family and his Latina wife (lol what a joke that is) after 8000 posts in 2 years (!). That is if he even has a family, who the hell knows what's real with that dude.

Zelcorpion I truly couldn't care less how many fucking reps you have, you're nothing but a troll at this point in time. It's because of you that this thread got completely destroyed and a new thread had to be created where guys could just talk football. I want to hear from real men, men who go out everyday and try and take a piece of the world for themselves be it with their chicks, their careers, their families, their friends and whatever else they want and need, not keyboard jockeys like Zelcorpion or Sloppy Seconds or whatever the hell you're calling yourself these days for the sake of attention whoring. This push back was long overdue and I'm glad it's finally happening. Idiot WRTs the whole bunch of you.
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(07-09-2018 09:24 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  Seriously, enough with these white race trolls. Every fucking thread is being hijacked by these douchebag WRTs. You know what guys, I have news for you. You internet warriors ain't taking back shit from the Feminazis, the SJWs and the Leftists with your pathetic navel gazing and depressing negativity and endless posting. Like Bushido and El Padrone said, you guys aren't doing much of anything with your lives so you come on here and spend all day posting about complete and utter nonsense. If shit gets turned around in the West, it sure as hell won't be because of losers like you guys. At least Neubache finally had the sense to step away and actually focus on his family and his Latina wife (lol what a joke that is) after 8000 posts in 2 years (!). That is if he even has a family, who the hell knows what's real with that dude.

Zelcorpion I truly couldn't care less how many fucking reps you have, you're nothing but a troll at this point in time. It's because of you that this thread got completely destroyed and a new thread had to be created where guys could just talk football. I want to hear from real men, men who go out everyday and try and take a piece of the world for themselves be it with their chicks, their careers, their families, their friends and whatever else they want and need, not keyboard jockeys like Zelcorpion or Sloppy Seconds or whatever the hell you're calling yourself these days for the sake of attention whoring. This push back was long overdue and I'm glad it's finally happening. Idiot WRTs the whole bunch of you.

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The problem with Zel's approach is that it is far too dogmatic to the point that it becomes almost irrational. He's a fairly bright guy who is generally pretty well informed on a range of subjects, but he's got a couple of blind spots.

I think it's OK to talk about race dynamics in this tournament, as long as you approach the subject from a rational perspective, so here's my attempt at that.


(07-09-2018 07:24 AM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  ...
Over 75% of England team aged men are white, only about 7% are black/black mixed. Yet the team is less than 50% white. I had a PL chairman tell me that quotas were heavily suggested to them in the training of players.

Sadio Mane and Mo Salah are my favourite players for my club. I'm delighted they are ahead of some of the rubbishey English players we've had over the years (Stewart Downing, Jay Spearing etc). But when huge majorities white kids are being ignored by academies and clubs because... they're white, then things really have to change. Anyway, I'm outta this thread : )

The poverty rate is much higher among Black kids/families, so the youth rising through the ranks are a lot more hungrier... Sometimes, literally so! Here's a great passage from the piece about Lukaku posted earlier:

Quote:...I was six years old, and I came home for lunch during our break at school. My mum had the same thing on the menu every single day: Bread and milk. When you’re a kid, you don’t even think about it. But I guess that’s what we could afford.

Then this one day I came home, and I walked into the kitchen, and I saw my mum at the refrigerator with the box of milk, like normal. But this time she was mixing something in with it. She was shaking it all up, you know? I didn’t understand what was going on. Then she brought my lunch over to me, and she was smiling like everything was cool. But I realized right away what was going on.

She was mixing water in with the milk. We didn’t have enough money to make it last the whole week. We were broke. Not just poor, but broke.

I knew we were struggling. But when she was mixing in water with the milk, I realized it was over, you know what I mean? This was our life.

...I didn’t say a word. I didn’t want her to stress. I just ate my lunch. But I swear to God, I made a promise to myself that day. It was like somebody snapped their fingers and woke me up. I knew exactly what I had to do, and what I was going to do.

I couldn’t see my mother living like that. Nah, nah, nah. I couldn’t have that.

People in football love to talk about mental strength. Well, I’m the strongest dude you’re ever going to meet. Because I remember sitting in the dark with my brother and my mom, saying our prayers, and thinking, believing, knowing it’s going to happen.

I kept my promise to myself for a while. But then some days I’d come home from school and find my mum crying. So I finally told her one day, “Mum, it’s gonna change. You’ll see. I’m going to play football for Anderlecht, and it’s going to happen soon. We’ll be good. You won’t have to worry anymore.”

I was six.


I think the dynamics that give Blacks a disproportionately higher representation in England or France are related to this fact. As well, there are proportionally more Black coaches, PE profs, trainers and former players than in the general population, their kids benefit from their parents' experience and professional input, they get groomed and motivated from an early age. That's kind of the background of Mbappé, his father is a former player and football coach, while his mother was a top-flight team handball player. His parents provided him with the kind of guidance and structure that allowed his talents to blossom to their full potential.

You see this pattern in US football with coaches and players' sons. It's also the same reason women's tennis has been monopolized by EE, they're hungrier than their western counterparts, and train harder. Conversely, it's also the reason why you have fewer French and Belgian riders dominating cycling than before, champions like Bernard Hinault had grown up in farms or rural settings where their parents had a hard life and a very solid work ethic, inculcating to their kids a high tolerance for suffering. That kind of disciplined hardass stoicism has been fading among the western European middle class.

Third, you do have a systematic issue with the focus and screening being made on the grounds of physicality vs. technique at the youth level. Kids from west African heritage tend to be bigger. This is a fact that Laurent Blanc has pointed out, and he's gotten a lot of flack over it.

So it's all these factors that contribute to the preponderance of players of African origin on the France, England and Belgium squads, rather than globalists pulling the strings.

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Guys - I shall bow out of the thread and take a break anyway.

Just one last comment - do you think that it's possible that I and a few others are not some rabid racists who hate black folk, but that we just have different opinions on a few issues? There are now black Youtubers like Jesse Lee Peterson, Tree of Logic or even the Renegade of Funk who are being called the same names. There are even more out there not commenting publicly - even if they are a minority among their group.

It's a version - just way more to the sane right - of the left calling everyone who supports Trump a racist. You know well enough that you are not racist for supporting Trump, but they honestly believe this. Is the black woman Tree of Logic or Jesse Lee Peterson racist?

I guess you made up your mind about me and that is as unchangeable as that of Hillary supporter. And no - I know that you are not SJW, you are infinitely more sane than the crazies on the left - and I am sure that most of you are cool dudes who are great to hang out with. But maybe - just maybe - could it be that you are not seeing the full picture on this one?

All the best nonetheless. No need to respond to this.
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(07-09-2018 08:20 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Don't act like a bitch and start blaming sjws, globalists and the tooth fairy.

I've covered this elsewhere on here before, when white people are dominating something, people like the guy you quoted have zero problem, and just put it down to"the natural order of things" / "white ppl are just better"

But when the boot is on the other foot, something strange must be happening / its a globalist jew conspiracy.

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(07-09-2018 09:24 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  Seriously, enough with these white race trolls. Every fucking thread is being hijacked by these douchebag WRTs. You know what guys, I have news for you. You internet warriors ain't taking back shit from the Feminazis, the SJWs and the Leftists with your pathetic navel gazing and depressing negativity and endless posting. Like Bushido and El Padrone said, you guys aren't doing much of anything with your lives so you come on here and spend all day posting about complete and utter nonsense. If shit gets turned around in the West, it sure as hell won't be because of losers like you guys. At least Neubache finally had the sense to step away and actually focus on his family and his Latina wife (lol what a joke that is) after 8000 posts in 2 years (!). That is if he even has a family, who the hell knows what's real with that dude.


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(07-09-2018 09:24 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  Zelcorpion I truly couldn't care less how many fucking reps you have, you're nothing but a troll at this point in time. It's because of you that this thread got completely destroyed and a new thread had to be created where guys could just talk football. I want to hear from real men, men who go out everyday and try and take a piece of the world for themselves be it with their chicks, their careers, their families, their friends and whatever else they want and need, not keyboard jockeys like Zelcorpion or Sloppy Seconds or whatever the hell you're calling yourself these days for the sake of attention whoring. This push back was long overdue and I'm glad it's finally happening.

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Getting "offended" and then mashing your paws against a keyboard is what feminists do. Instead we have the RVF white knights coming on here with their moral highroading, racking up those likes from their equally triggered peers.

Some advice from a man: If you don't like a thread, go to another one. If you don't like what someone is posting, there are Ignore & Report buttons for that.

(07-09-2018 09:24 PM)doc holliday Wrote:  Idiot WRTs the whole bunch of you.

You're guilty of what you accuse others of, however WRT did crack me up!

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I'm glad people are finally calling out these WRTs. They even make the fun threads about stupid shit a race issue. But the WRTs are right about one thing -- France sure does have a lot of brothers on their team.

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But you're Senegalese - ofcourse u'd say that : D
Over 75% of England team aged men are white, only about 7% are black/black mixed. Yet the team is less than 50% white. I had a PL chairman tell me that quotas were heavily suggested to them in the training of players.

Sadio Mane and Mo Salah are my favourite players for my club. I'm delighted they are ahead of some of the rubbishey English players we've had over the years (Stewart Downing, Jay Spearing etc). But when huge majorities white kids are being ignored by academies and clubs because... they're white, then things really have to change. Anyway, I'm outta this thread : )

PS as an African how would you feel if you took your little kids to a match and the club had 12 x sixyear old kids carrying a giant rainbow flag round the pitch. And the flag read "Support Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgender, Intersex and Queer"? Then you maea post criticising it on Twitter/Facebook (non abusive) and then you get banned from Twitter/FB! Some clubs even threaten to ban/did ban their own season ticket holding fans for criticising SJWism on social media!

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Bullshit

Could it be that they aren't good enough.
I mean it is not like black athletes dominate most sports.

Last year the under 17s won the World Cup for England. Looks like 8 or 9 black boys on the team.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/liv...final-live

Out of the four teams left in the tournament, 3 are obviously diverse. So I am sure you will be cheering for Croatia.

As you can see the World Cup always favours European teams, it usually takes a super team from Latin America for them to hoist the cup. Which makes it more laughable when countries like Holland and Italy don't make the tournament, I guess beating malta, faroe islands, Andorra and Luxembourg is too much.

With the expansion, they are making sure teams like America have a better chance of making the tournament. Being the host country in 2026 will guarantee they are in the tournament.

Now for you racists, be racist. To me your just another internet troll, so own it.
Don't hide when you get called out or when someone show you up.

Don't act like a bitch and start blaming sjws, globalists and the tooth fairy.

Don't tell me about your black uncle or your mixed raced friend, that is typical racist talk. I am not impressed by that.
There is nothing wrong with liking your race, but all the other shit is lame as fuck. This is a game forum about self-improvement, this isn't a Nazi hate group.
Talk that shit on the political threads, not on a football thread.

Yesterday, I spoke to a highly repped member who happens to be visiting my town. He is white and I will be going out of my way to take him out and show him a good time. I feel stupid even mentioning the fact that is white, I know he doesn't care that I am black.
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Firstly, why the fuck would I cheer for Croatia? I'm British.
Moving on, clearly you haven't read my post. I've EXPLAINED the divergence in expected and actual ethnicity. Just as I'm explained how SJWism IS a huge part of football today.

Saying "whites are lazy/aren't interested" and "whites aren't as good as blacks" is plain ridiculous. Lots of people would call it "racist"!
I've already listed how the very top players in British nations have tended to be indigeneous. Yes blacks dominate sprinting in England (most kids have no desire to be a sprinter!) Vast numbers of the fastest footballers are white, they're not like Jan Molby ... or post achilles John Barnes!

You mention the current England team vs previous ones. No one is saying England picked the wrong squad. German, Italian and Dutch teams etc are more "diverse" as its now called .. and now rubbish teams. So what? And S American teams always won in S America .. til last time. All this is irrelevant. I'm only focussing on who is trained in football and why, in European countries.

Nowadays kids are picked at 8 yrs of age. Some even 6 years of age. The old approach was that scouts would scour nationwide and choose players much later - Ian Wright, Les Ferdinand only became top flight players in their mid 25s. I knew a guy who became Britain's top scorer at 25 - his SECOND year as a pro player. (He was working in a gym before that!) Ofcourse these are exceptions but typically they'd start their top flight matches at 21 after a year or 2 in the reserves/ youth teams.
Nowadays you could be on the scrap heap at 12 or 14! Its fucking ridiculous, which is why West Ham (former hotbed of talent) even scrapped its academy for a while. Now you might wonder why I'm saying this. Well, if you remember I mentioned academies serving the areas the clubs are in. These ARE highly immigrant (1, 2, 3rd generation) with far less white kids. Clubs don't bother with kids far outside those areas. And the sports scientists (and other groups) keep yelling "sign up the black kids"! Some clubs even have a dozen academies worldwide - like Arsenal around Africa. So you get 14 yr old kids signed up and their families are dragged to England. Ofcourse they can become eligible to player for England at a later date. The problem is, if you're in N Wales, Lancashire or a poor white isolated new town etc etc etc , there's no academy near by. No competent academy even interested in you.

And even scouts don't bother much, because they've become academy coaches to the 8 yr olds. Now maybe you don't give a fuck about this if you're black. But the whole situation isn't gonna do a lot for integration if white kids miss out on the careers they could have had. Likewise with any talented Asian kids or whatever. Infact its liable to cause a huge amount of shit to happen, sadly.

I'm not sure who you were referring to as "racist". It was actually me who has a black uncle who's critical of whats gone on. And guess what else? I get people asking me if I'm mixed race or part black!
And unlike a few here, I don't go round saying any race is naturally rubbish or can't be bothered to succeed - in a job that's an absolute doss on millions a year, and dream for millions of England kids. They train 6hrs a week and have ONE match. I almost did that level of exercise at law school full time. And I wasn't some fanatic.


(07-09-2018 10:52 PM)911 Wrote:  The problem with Zel's approach is that it is far too dogmatic to the point that it becomes almost irrational. He's a fairly bright guy who is generally pretty well informed on a range of subjects, but he's got a couple of blind spots.

I think it's OK to talk about race dynamics in this tournament, as long as you approach the subject from a rational perspective, so here's my attempt at that.


(07-09-2018 07:24 AM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  ...
Over 75% of England team aged men are white, only about 7% are black/black mixed. Yet the team is less than 50% white. I had a PL chairman tell me that quotas were heavily suggested to them in the training of players.

Sadio Mane and Mo Salah are my favourite players for my club. I'm delighted they are ahead of some of the rubbishey English players we've had over the years (Stewart Downing, Jay Spearing etc). But when huge majorities white kids are being ignored by academies and clubs because... they're white, then things really have to change. Anyway, I'm outta this thread : )

The poverty rate is much higher among Black kids/families, so the youth rising through the ranks are a lot more hungrier... Sometimes, literally so! Here's a great passage from the piece about Lukaku posted earlier:

Quote:...I was six years old, and I came home for lunch during our break at school. My mum had the same thing on the menu every single day: Bread and milk. When you’re a kid, you don’t even think about it. But I guess that’s what we could afford.

Then this one day I came home, and I walked into the kitchen, and I saw my mum at the refrigerator with the box of milk, like normal. But this time she was mixing something in with it. She was shaking it all up, you know? I didn’t understand what was going on. Then she brought my lunch over to me, and she was smiling like everything was cool. But I realized right away what was going on.

She was mixing water in with the milk. We didn’t have enough money to make it last the whole week. We were broke. Not just poor, but broke.

I knew we were struggling. But when she was mixing in water with the milk, I realized it was over, you know what I mean? This was our life.

...I didn’t say a word. I didn’t want her to stress. I just ate my lunch. But I swear to God, I made a promise to myself that day. It was like somebody snapped their fingers and woke me up. I knew exactly what I had to do, and what I was going to do.

I couldn’t see my mother living like that. Nah, nah, nah. I couldn’t have that.

People in football love to talk about mental strength. Well, I’m the strongest dude you’re ever going to meet. Because I remember sitting in the dark with my brother and my mom, saying our prayers, and thinking, believing, knowing it’s going to happen.

I kept my promise to myself for a while. But then some days I’d come home from school and find my mum crying. So I finally told her one day, “Mum, it’s gonna change. You’ll see. I’m going to play football for Anderlecht, and it’s going to happen soon. We’ll be good. You won’t have to worry anymore.”

I was six.


I think the dynamics that give Blacks a disproportionately higher representation in England or France are related to this fact. As well, there are proportionally more Black coaches, PE profs, trainers and former players than in the general population, their kids benefit from their parents' experience and professional input, they get groomed and motivated from an early age. That's kind of the background of Mbappé, his father is a former player and football coach, while his mother was a top-flight team handball player. His parents provided him with the kind of guidance and structure that allowed his talents to blossom to their full potential.

You see this pattern in US football with coaches and players' sons. It's also the same reason women's tennis has been monopolized by EE, they're hungrier than their western counterparts, and train harder. Conversely, it's also the reason why you have fewer French and Belgian riders dominating cycling than before, champions like Bernard Hinault had grown up in farms or rural settings where their parents had a hard life and a very solid work ethic, inculcating to their kids a high tolerance for suffering. That kind of disciplined hardass stoicism has been fading among the western European middle class.

Third, you do have a systematic issue with the focus and screening being made on the grounds of physicality vs. technique at the youth level. Kids from west African heritage tend to be bigger. This is a fact that Laurent Blanc has pointed out, and he's gotten a lot of flack over it.

So it's all these factors that contribute to the preponderance of players of African origin on the France, England and Belgium squads, rather than globalists pulling the strings.

Lukaku's story all sounds a bit "media" for me. Why would he be any poorer than the whites? They don't get lower benefits than the whites. Mother gambled or whatever? I'm only really commenting on Britain. Yes blacks are on average poorer than whites. But did you know that according to ITV, Southern England blacks are more likely to go to university than whites in the North East! Because there are vastly more whites, there's also more poor ones. Some parts of the "white underclass" areas of Britain are horrific. Approaching 3rd world levels. Food banks, benefits slashed etc etc. There's no way the white kids "can't be bothered" or whatever. And on top of this, lots of top sportsmen, even in football, aren't from poor backgrounds. Some are even from rich ones!

It all comes down to an unholy alliance. Bullshit sport science which is discredited. SJWs in local+nat govt, media, commerce, ownership etc. And finally academies that only serve a tiny inner city mix of kids that don't reflect the wider population.

I'm pleased for all the players who are succeeding, regardless of their race. But things need to be sustainable, and equal opportunities for all races. So that there's a genuine merit based system put in place for aspiring kids.

Anyway, I'm out of this thread. My links give people an idea. People also might want to check out how "Gay Pride" as they call themselves hijacked English football too. Do people think I'm making up a conspiracy theory there? Or do they think all football clubs now like the idea of sucking fag dick?
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(07-09-2018 08:20 PM)rudebwoy Wrote:  Yesterday, I spoke to a highly repped member who happens to be visiting my town. He is white and I will be going out of my way to take him out and show him a good time. I feel stupid even mentioning the fact that is white, I know he doesn't care that I am black.

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If France wins the world cup how the fuck are they supposed to celebrate with such a diverse team?
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(07-10-2018 04:04 PM)Sidney Crosby Wrote:  If France wins the world cup how the fuck are they supposed to celebrate with such a diverse team?

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Here's a photo of England's team from their last major tournament semi-final (Euro 96)

[Image: england-euro-96-wembley_3476261.jpg?20160531103403]

There's something about that period in Britain which makes me really nostalgic:
  • Prime Minister John Major
  • Britpop (Blur)
  • Cool Britannia
  • Long summer nights in Surrey
  • Crap boy/girl bands
  • Concorde
  • Less PC/SJW culture and social media infestation
  • London commuters looking really nineties
  • Red London buses/post boxes
  • Gladiators
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(07-10-2018 08:22 PM)LeightonBlackstock Wrote:  Here's a photo of England's team from their last major tournament semi-final (Euro 96)

[Image: england-euro-96-wembley_3476261.jpg?20160531103403]

Wow. Players without sleeve tats and normal hairstyles. Seems like this was centuries ago, not 20 years.

Although I do think there has been major improvement in terms of uniform sizing Laugh
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