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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
I wasn't talking about the actual facts of the situation, only about how it appears superficially.

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What Debeguiled says isn't too far off, actually. Andre Berto says that fighting Mayweather almost feels like you're fighting someone who is cheating because of how good he is. According to Berto, Mayweather's boxing IQ is insane. Mayweather is watching everything simultaneously: you, the clock, your breathing, your favorite arm. He is just hyper aware in a way that most boxers can't conceivably be. It's probably how the guy who got beaten at chess by the super computer felt.

To boil it down to a simple sentence, Mayweather is cartoonishly good. He's so good it looks ridiculous.

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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
Damn, odds are way shittier on the ground here in Vegas than online. -550 mayweather in MGM books, -500 at the superbook and a whopping -900 at south point.

Can any vegas locals recommend an independent book that might have more favorable mayweather odds? I drove in so even if it's off the beaten path, I'd be game.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
@booshala the best I could find according to oddsshark.com is the Wynn sportsbook at -475. But if your staying until next weekend I would place my bet then. In my experience McGregors people roll deep to watch him fight on fight weekend. Expect a lots of bets on Mcgregor as we get closer to the fight. Then the sportsbooks won't be able to artificially pump up their lines like they've been doing. The books are rooting hard for Floyd Mayweather they're just terrified of being sided.
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Thanks for the oddsshark tip. Only gonna be here till Monday so can't really see it out to the last minute. It could go either way, sharps tend to like betting at the last minute because they don't like to tie up money, and their bets are usually much bigger than normal bettors. Gonna try Wynn, Cosmo and the station casinos next.
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(08-19-2017 10:06 PM)booshala Wrote:  Thanks for the oddsshark tip. Only gonna be here till Monday so can't really see it out to the last minute. It could go either way, sharps tend to like betting at the last minute because they don't like to tie up money, and their bets are usually much bigger than normal bettors. Gonna try Wynn, Cosmo and the station casinos next.

I can see it both ways, so I'm getting ~50% of my money in now. If the sharps pile in, I can be happy I got Mayweather at -400. If McGregor sees a lot of inflow, then I'm doubling down.
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Good interview, Jeff Mayweather is keeping it real, he's not pretending Connor has any chance.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
The thing people seem to be missing is the deep history with Irelands 'bareknuckle' fighting. The doc on the Travelers is a must watch and sheds a bit of light on how tough those fuckers really. (IE: 70 yr olds in a straight up blood bath fight in a random field) It's easy to confuse boxing with fighting.

What we have on the 26th is masters from each camp (boxing / fighting). Should be entertaining
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
(08-19-2017 12:29 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  I wasn't talking about the actual facts of the situation, only about how it appears superficially.

I know man, I'm just riffing.
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(06-15-2017 09:24 PM)Soyouz Wrote:  This fight is a joke.

Some people say "McGregor has a puncher chance". Mayweather is a master of defense, and has a good chin (he took punches from real boxers and was never KOed).

Mayweather could fight McGregor after partying all night long with Charlie Sheen and would still win easily.

Prophetic. Floyd posted on Instagram that he plans to party every day in his strip club for the remaining week until bout:

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For those that do not know already, a Floyd party consists of him walking around saying what's up, throwing cash at the strippers, and him never drinking, never smoking, and never doing drugs. For him a party is technically a political rally where he is trying to get support or votes, and let others have a good time.

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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
(08-19-2017 11:52 AM)debeguiled Wrote:  Not knowing much about boxing, when I watch that video, what is striking is how much Mayweather looks like a scared cartoon character running away. It is almost like he is making fun of the masculine image of a boxer.

It looks like he is flinching, and spazzing out, not boxing really, just trying to get away from conflict, more like a running back than a lineman, and what is funny is that after a guy has missed him a bunch of times, you can see Mayweather make eye contact with them and shake his head as if to say:

Why bother? You will never hit me.

So, he does that a bunch of times, and then he starts counter punching guys as their fists fly by his head, and it plays out like a cartoon where the road runner doesn't just get away from the coyote, but pecks him to death.

I can only imagine how frustrating and emasculating it must be for his opponents to be beaten by someone like that.

Less like he is winning a match, and more like he has hacked the rules of boxing, and is being chased around the ring by real boxers who are pissed and can't do anything about it.

Very compelling.

Like Joe Calzaghe, before he fucked up his hands he wasn't like that, he was lethal. Imagine what this version of Floyd would do to McGregor—it would be a massacre.




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(08-21-2017 07:44 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  For those that do not know already, a Floyd party consists of him walking around saying what's up, throwing cash at the strippers, and him never drinking, never smoking, and never doing drugs. For him a party is technically a political rally where he is trying to get support or votes, and let others have a good time.

I've heard this as well, the guy is a Mormon when he's training: no booze, drugs, sex, etc. Also, several accounts of him running back from the club to his home have been documented. The "partying all week before the fight" is smoke and mirrors, and just another ploy from the Mayweather camp to get PPV buys up as well as make the betting line more favorable.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
I'm thinking of holding 50% to bet during the first few rounds, hoping that McGregor comes out swinging and the lines move in his favor so I can get Mayweather at positive numbers. Good idea?
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(08-21-2017 09:11 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  I'm thinking of holding 50% to bet during the first few rounds, hoping that McGregor comes out swinging and the lines move in his favor so I can get Mayweather at positive numbers. Good idea?

The 8 ounce gloves are a ploy by Floyd to draw Conor out and force him to be more aggressive. The more aggressive Conor is, the quicker Floyd will understand his movement/angles. It's not a good bet though. Conor will fight the same way he fights in MMA. At a long boxing range. The first two rounds will likely be quiet.

The betting odds are absolutely garbage everywhere. The best bet would be on Floyd if Conor drops him. With a standing 10 count, it would still be very likely for Floyd to win, even if he gets put on his ass. Unless you're a baller, every other bet would require a huge outlay to get a decent return.
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Quote:The betting odds are absolutely garbage everywhere. The best bet would be on Floyd if Conor drops him. With a standing 10 count, it would still be very likely for Floyd to win, even if he gets put on his ass. Unless you're a baller, every other bet would require a huge outlay to get a decent return.

Honestly, I couldn't be happier with the odds. ~30% return on a near sure thing? Sign me up.
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(08-21-2017 10:40 PM)Peregrine Wrote:  
Quote:The betting odds are absolutely garbage everywhere. The best bet would be on Floyd if Conor drops him. With a standing 10 count, it would still be very likely for Floyd to win, even if he gets put on his ass. Unless you're a baller, every other bet would require a huge outlay to get a decent return.

Honestly, I couldn't be happier with the odds. ~30% return on a near sure thing? Sign me up.

Floyd may very well end up winning comfortably, but there are a lot of variables far beyond your typical bet in this fight. It would take a lot of money to win a little, and it's just not worth the risk. There are far safer bets out there with far bigger returns.
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No there aren't. This is the best bet I've seen in 7 years as a pro.
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(08-22-2017 12:06 AM)ProGambler Wrote:  No there aren't. This is the best bet I've seen in 7 years as a pro.

Arrogance in betting is the best way to lose your money. A good bet has less assumptions about variables. To say this is a great bet, especially when you have to outlay a grand just to win $270, is making a lot of assumptions.

Floyd will probably win, but you can make $270 without a.) Making a bunch of assumptions on something with no precedent and b.) Risking such a large sum of money on said assumptions.
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(08-22-2017 12:24 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:06 AM)ProGambler Wrote:  No there aren't. This is the best bet I've seen in 7 years as a pro.

Arrogance in betting is the best way to lose your money. A good bet has less assumptions about variables. To say this is a great bet, especially when you have to outlay a grand just to win $270, is making a lot of assumptions.

Floyd will probably win, but you can make $270 without a.) Making a bunch of assumptions on something with no precedent and b.) Risking such a large sum of money on said assumptions.

It all comes down to the math. Floyd needs about an 82% chance of winning the fight for the bet to be profitable (-430 right now). If you think his chance is more than 82%, it's a good bet, if you think it's less, it's not.

I'm not a boxing fan but a lot of people have been talking as if Floyd has at least a 90% if not greater chance so I think it's probably the right bet and by a good margin.
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(08-22-2017 12:28 AM)rungoodinc Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:24 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:06 AM)ProGambler Wrote:  No there aren't. This is the best bet I've seen in 7 years as a pro.

Arrogance in betting is the best way to lose your money. A good bet has less assumptions about variables. To say this is a great bet, especially when you have to outlay a grand just to win $270, is making a lot of assumptions.

Floyd will probably win, but you can make $270 without a.) Making a bunch of assumptions on something with no precedent and b.) Risking such a large sum of money on said assumptions.

It all comes down to the math. Floyd needs about an 82% chance of winning the fight for the bet to be profitable (-430 right now). If you think his chance is more than 82%, it's a good bet, if you think it's less, it's not.

I'm not a boxing fan but a lot of people have been talking as if Floyd has at least a 90% if not greater chance so I think it's probably the right bet and by a good margin.

There's too many intangibles for my liking. The fight game is a funny thing. Floyd is almost 41. He's fighting for money. This will be just the second time he's been at a reach disadvantage [First was De La Hoya]. Conor will be the longest reach he's faced. He's giving up 11 years in age and 20lb's in weight.

On top of this, Conor is awkward, but more importantly, he's experienced. Much more so than the MSM have covered [Specifically because they don't understand MMA]. He has been boxing since he was 12. Six years longer than Jeff Horn who just beat Pacman. As an MMA fighter, he does pure boxing training almost every day.

Once again, Floyd should win, but we are assuming Conor is as inexperienced as the MSM say [Which is false], we are assuming Floyd is training to the same level as his past camps [Likely false], that Floyd is the same fighter he was 2 years ago [Likely false].

Further, there is no precedent. We can assume Conor's distance and style won't work in a boxing ring, but unlike every other boxing fight, there is zero to suggest this other than our own assumptions, and irrespective of how accurate they might be, it's still pure speculation.

In contrast, this weekend we have dozens of football [Rugby games] where we have over 20 weeks of form to work off, paying far higher than the 1.27 Floyd's paying to win. Outside of making the fight a little more entertaining, there is no reason to bet on it.
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(08-22-2017 12:24 AM)Rush87 Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:06 AM)ProGambler Wrote:  No there aren't. This is the best bet I've seen in 7 years as a pro.

Arrogance in betting is the best way to lose your money. A good bet has less assumptions about variables. To say this is a great bet, especially when you have to outlay a grand just to win $270, is making a lot of assumptions.

Floyd will probably win, but you can make $270 without a.) Making a bunch of assumptions on something with no precedent and b.) Risking such a large sum of money on said assumptions.

"A good bet has less assumptions about variables"? Gimme a break man: in one corner you have someone who's never boxed professionally and has lost three times in a sport where he's seen as the dominant fighter in his weight class... versus arguably the greatest technical boxer who's ever lived and is undefeated 49-0. And they're competing in the latter's sport. If someone is being arrogant and/or making assumptions, it's the guy who is convinced that Mcgregor has a "good chance" of knocking Mayweather out... which is the only scenario I can see Mcgregor winning.

Your inexperience and/or naivete about sports betting comes through in your post as well. Mayweather's true odds should be 95%+ and yet the lines are only reflecting his chances for victory at 75-80%. That spread is a huge margin of safety and negates just about any variable outside of something truly outlandish and completely inconceivable happening. I'm talking about "fan-guy landing in the ring and knocking mayweather down breaking his arm" type bullshit.

Finally, if you think $1000 is a large sum of money, you're right, you should probably leave the betting for the big boys. Sharps and experienced bettors are easily going to be putting 6 and 7 figure bets on Mayweather as this is a once in a decade sort of opportunity. 25% returns in one hour don't come around very often.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
I just put $100 on Mayweather at -335 on bet 365. Total unlikable guy but I'd rather put my money on my common sense.
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(08-11-2017 11:37 PM)raveking Wrote:  
They just got 1 million more PPVs. Here's Paulie lying about getting "knocked down" during sparring earlier this week. For those of you that don't know Paulie Malinaggi is a retired boxer and former IBF and WBA world champion.





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Am I the only one here who didn't see Conor land a single punch in that clip?

I saw him throw a lot, land nothing, and Paulie fall down while McGregor was pushing the back of his head.

That video doesn't impress me at all. Not to mention, that was a 5 second clip of him sparring a retired Malignaggi. You guys realize he's going to go 12 rounds with Mayweather, not 5 seconds with Paulie, right?

Paulie has been TKOd half a dozen times, Mayweather has never even touched the canvas.

If we were talking about Conor vs Cotto, Canelo, JMM, Pacman, Berto, etc. would any of you be giving him a chance?

I honestly believe Cotto, Canelo, Manny, Berto, etc. put McGregor in the hospital. Floyd very well may as well if he really turns up the heat and the referee doesn't step in.

I do want to say though, to whoever it was talking about Conor faking a downward elbow and then catching Mayweather with a lefthook, or whatever it was, you made my day. That is the best thing I've heard about this entire fight lol.

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I'm going to leave this here because it's basically what I was going to write anyways.

(08-13-2017 04:55 AM)Kieran Wrote:  Lol at boxing not being a combat sport. This thread is almost as frustrating as my facebook is.

McGregor will hardly put a glove on him and Floyd's power will be plenty, especially in smaller gloves, to get the job done early. But anyway let's just wait and see. And fuck technically perfect straight punches, it's about what can land (we could say almost no pro boxers have technically perfect hooks - I mean when do we ever see a perfect amateur weight shifting elbow up to 90 degrees hook in the pros (or the high level amateurs for that matter) - you don't; elbow stays down until it's turned over and most reach with it or it just doesn't land). Pacquiao probably had one of the best straight lefts I've ever seen for a southpaw that came so fast and out of nowhere that even guys like Marquez, who was one of the best at making adjustments I've ever seen, couldn't do a thing about it (and look what Floyd did to Pacquiao).

What people don't seem to get is that Floyd's speed and reflexes, as well as his experience, are absolute leaps and bounds ahead of anything McGregor has ever experienced. People talking about his power meaning that he has a chance have no idea either. It's irrelevant, and I don't think he even has good power compared to heavy hitters in boxing like a Randall Bailey, and who here thinks Randall Bailey would have a chance against Floyd? Come on now.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
Quote:"A good bet has less assumptions about variables"? Gimme a break man: in one corner you have someone who's never boxed professionally and has lost three times in a sport where he's seen as the dominant fighter in his weight class... versus arguably the greatest technical boxer who's ever lived and is undefeated 49-0. And they're competing in the latter's sport.

His losses in MMA have almost zero to do with his boxing fight. His most recent loss was to Nate Diaz. Nate is one of Andre Ward's main sparring partners and someone who has had many reputable boxing experts say he would be top ten at LHW [In boxing].

Quote:If someone is being arrogant and/or making assumptions, it's the guy who is convinced that Mcgregor has a "good chance" of knocking Mayweather out... which is the only scenario I can see Mcgregor winning.

There are very few people outside casuals saying Conor has a good chance of knocking out Floyd. In fact, all I hear is the opposite. "This is a joke". "Conor won't even land a punch". In fact, in this very thread, when I have stated Conor has less than a 1% chance, it still riles up boxing fans. Isn't that ridiculous? And this is the consensus. It's ignorance at it's finest.

Quote:Finally, if you think $1000 is a large sum of money, you're right, you should probably leave the betting for the big boys.

I'm sorry but this quote here is just pure faggotry. We're talking about forum members betting on a fight. There's nothing worse than 'big dicking' on the internet.

Of course if you're a baller with money to spend then there is easily enough reasoning to bet but if you're the average dude earning 50k, $1000 is a lot of money to outlay comparative to your wage.

My biggest issue with this entire fight is that if there is a solitary opinion outside 'Conor won't land a single punch' everyone gets their panties in a twist. It's ridiculous.
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