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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
I think if Mayweather trained for MMA then based on the mindset he'd beat Conner, since he never lost his composure while Conner had set himself up to lose with the excuse that boxing's not a 'real fight'.

I doubt he'll ever do it, but if the two of them would have a rematch under MMA rules it would put things to rest.
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(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:38 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:32 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:24 AM)Mage Wrote:  True, but in real life you have no breaks and most fights don't last longer then a minute. That is why a sumo wrestler would beat up a marathon runner any time.

This isn't sumo.

It's boxing bro.

Even then MMA has rounds too.

I am not talking about boxing bro. I am talking who is a better fighter bro . I don't care about who is a better boxer bro. Boxing is a show and fighting is a a potentially unavoidable part of life bro. Mayweather proved that he is a better boxer, but I am talking about Mcgregor still being a better fighter bro.

It's a shame they could not find a way to fight under some rules that are halfway between MMA and boxing to really test themselves. Bro.

You dont know what you are talking about .

Pro fighting is based on rules.

K1, PRIDE , UFC, Dream, Muay Thai, etc

He signed up for this as if he is better than the rules. He lost. He needs to take his lumps. Some sports are better at certain things.

I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.

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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
Traveller Kai. You know Conor would kill Floyd in an actual fight. And by actual we mean one on one with no weapons and no guards. If Conor took Floyd's wallet, do you think Floyd can do anything to get it back from him? You call yourself a martial arts expert...but are you seriously saying (correct me if I'm wrong) that the man that fights with one fight discipline is superior than the man that can fight in multiple fighting disciplines? It's one thing to appreciate Floyd as a superior boxer, that I can understand. But in terms of who's a real martial artist its Conor not Floyd. That's where the whole argument of who actually wins in a "real fight". Not this nonsense of weapons or whatever, you can break the semantics all you want but you know what the opposing side is saying when they say a "real fight".
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Very smart fight from mayweather.

He didn't get baited into any rash moves that could have cost him, didn't worry about ending it early to make a point. He bided his time, stayed cool as a cucumber and walked away with a TKO win and an unprecedented 50-0 record to his name.

Compare his level of professionalism to MMA "champions" Aldo and Alvarez who got suckered into getting KO'd, and you can see MMA still has a fair way to go before its producing fighters of that calibre.
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(08-27-2017 12:59 AM)raveking Wrote:  Traveller Kai. You know Conor would kill Floyd in an actual fight. And by actual we mean one on one with no weapons and no guards. If Conor took Floyd's wallet, do you think Floyd can do anything to get it back from him? You call yourself a martial arts expert...but are you seriously saying (correct me if I'm wrong) that the man that fights with one fight discipline is superior than the man that can fight in multiple fighting disciplines? It's one thing to appreciate Floyd as a superior boxer, that I can understand. But in terms of who's a real martial artist its Conor not Floyd. That's where the whole argument of who actually wins in a "real fight". Not this nonsense of weapons or whatever, you can break the semantics all you want but you know what the opposing side is saying when they say a "real fight".

And here we have an example of someone who hasn't been reading the discusion
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(08-27-2017 12:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:38 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:32 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  This isn't sumo.

It's boxing bro.

Even then MMA has rounds too.

I am not talking about boxing bro. I am talking who is a better fighter bro . I don't care about who is a better boxer bro. Boxing is a show and fighting is a a potentially unavoidable part of life bro. Mayweather proved that he is a better boxer, but I am talking about Mcgregor still being a better fighter bro.

It's a shame they could not find a way to fight under some rules that are halfway between MMA and boxing to really test themselves. Bro.

You dont know what you are talking about .

Pro fighting is based on rules.

K1, PRIDE , UFC, Dream, Muay Thai, etc

He signed up for this as if he is better than the rules. He lost. He needs to take his lumps. Some sports are better at certain things.

I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.
I never said he's not great; he just needs to quit falling back on the "I lost because I was forced to play by boxing rules" cop out when he accepted those rules.
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(08-27-2017 12:40 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  What did you expect? European sword fighting? Stop thinking like a fan.

I'd actually watch that.

(08-27-2017 12:48 AM)Mage Wrote:  And yes. European sword fighting or any other fighting competition under rules where no one of them is used to those rules would be a better way to test who is a better fighter and who's style is more adaptive.

I think Mage is on to something, it would be a interesting concept to take a bunch of guys from different fighting styles and disciplines and have them train for awhile in a complete different thing, like European sword fighting or whatever else that could be fun, and see which would come out on top. I'd be interested in watching that.
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(08-27-2017 12:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:38 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:32 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:26 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  This isn't sumo.

It's boxing bro.

Even then MMA has rounds too.

I am not talking about boxing bro. I am talking who is a better fighter bro . I don't care about who is a better boxer bro. Boxing is a show and fighting is a a potentially unavoidable part of life bro. Mayweather proved that he is a better boxer, but I am talking about Mcgregor still being a better fighter bro.

It's a shame they could not find a way to fight under some rules that are halfway between MMA and boxing to really test themselves. Bro.

You dont know what you are talking about .

Pro fighting is based on rules.

K1, PRIDE , UFC, Dream, Muay Thai, etc

He signed up for this as if he is better than the rules. He lost. He needs to take his lumps. Some sports are better at certain things.

I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.

Stop accusing me of implying some stupid points I am not.

Obviously both of these guys are great fighters.

But in real life you can encounter every type of attack - punches, kicks, grips, knives, guns, and much more. The more different things you know how to use or defend against the better. In real life you will have no referee coming to your aid if someone pulls out an attack/weapon you are not used to.

I repeat - I absolutely don't care about sports. I am only interested in fighting sports as far as they can be transferred to practical combat skills. Hitting backside of your opponents head when there is such an opening is very practical.
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(08-27-2017 01:00 AM)king bast Wrote:  Very smart fight from mayweather.

He didn't get baited into any rash moves that could have cost him, didn't worry about ending it early to make a point. He bided his time, stayed cool as a cucumber and walked away with a TKO win and an unprecedented 50-0 record to his name.

Compare his level of professionalism to MMA "champions" Aldo and Alvarez who got suckered into getting KO'd, and you can see MMA still has a fair way to go before its producing fighters boxers of that calibre.

Fixed that for you.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
(08-27-2017 12:49 AM)ProGambler Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:03 AM)BigTony Wrote:  They both made big money. There were no losers tonight.

1) Idiots that bet on/travelled for McGregor
2) Paulie

Traveling to watch the fight is fine but actually putting money on McGregor? Who were those fools?

(08-27-2017 12:50 AM)EDantes Wrote:  I think if Mayweather trained for MMA then based on the mindset he'd beat Conner, since he never lost his composure while Conner had set himself up to lose with the excuse that boxing's not a 'real fight'.

Let's not get carried away, Mayweather is in a different world in regards of boxing skills, that's obvious, but so is McGregor in regards to MMA. Even if Floyd trained like a maniac he wouldn't beat Connor, and that's fine, they're both better than the other at their own respective disciplines and no amount or training or will would change that.
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(08-27-2017 01:07 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:38 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:32 AM)Mage Wrote:  I am not talking about boxing bro. I am talking who is a better fighter bro . I don't care about who is a better boxer bro. Boxing is a show and fighting is a a potentially unavoidable part of life bro. Mayweather proved that he is a better boxer, but I am talking about Mcgregor still being a better fighter bro.

It's a shame they could not find a way to fight under some rules that are halfway between MMA and boxing to really test themselves. Bro.

You dont know what you are talking about .

Pro fighting is based on rules.

K1, PRIDE , UFC, Dream, Muay Thai, etc

He signed up for this as if he is better than the rules. He lost. He needs to take his lumps. Some sports are better at certain things.

I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.

Stop accusing me of implying some stupid points I am not.

Obviously both of these guys are great fighters.

But in real life you can encounter every type of attack - punches, kicks, grips, knives, guns, and much more. The more different things you know how to use or defend against the better. In real life you will have no referee coming to your aid if someone pulls out an attack/weapon you are not used to.

I repeat - I absolutely don't care about sports. I am only interested in fighting sports as far as they can be transferred to practical combat skills. Hitting backside of your opponents head when there is such an opening is very practical.

Then don't watch boxing. Shit. Stop watching UFC
Non of those things are real combat enough for you.

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(08-27-2017 01:04 AM)Teutatis Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:40 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  What did you expect? European sword fighting? Stop thinking like a fan.

I'd actually watch that.

(08-27-2017 12:48 AM)Mage Wrote:  And yes. European sword fighting or any other fighting competition under rules where no one of them is used to those rules would be a better way to test who is a better fighter and who's style is more adaptive.

I think Mage is on to something, it would be a interesting concept to take a bunch of guys from different fighting styles and disciplines and have them train for awhile in a complete different thing, like European sword fighting or whatever else that could be fun, and see which would come out on top. I'd be interested in watching that.

Get on YouTube.

FRANCE vs Netherlands or similar. Full armor and sword fighting.

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(08-27-2017 01:11 AM)Teutatis Wrote:  Let's not get carried away, Mayweather is in a different world in regards of boxing skills, that's obvious, but so is McGregor in regards to MMA. Even if Floyd trained like a maniac he wouldn't beat Connor, and that's fine, they're both better than the other at their own respective disciplines and no amount or training or will would change that.

That is right.

I would also like to develop this thought further.

Even if someone is better at some sport then another guy he can still lose if he acts overconfident and chooses the wrong strategy.

Therefore - Mayweather did not win by default. He quite possibly would have lost if he abandoned any strategic thought and attacked McGregor with full force in round one. Damn he would even lose to a sumo wrestler if he would take that to absurd levels and would attack straight on and never retreat.

So stop saying he toyed with MCGregor and allowed him to get as far as he did. The time he defeated McGregor is determined by the power/endurance ratio between these fighters and their disciplines.

Similarly if they both fought under MMA rules and McGregor would chose a stupid strategy he would still lose. Probably a stupid thing for McGregor to do under these rules would be not to rush Mayweather and not to bring him down to ground and into some chokehold ASAP. But the thing is they are both world class fighters and would chose best strategies they have.
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A lot of hamstering going on after the great white hope got TKO'd by thr black man with 'bitch wrists.' lol

Connor has a garbage gastank and is not in the same league as JJ, DC or Mayweather, sorry.

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(08-27-2017 01:16 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:07 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:38 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  You dont know what you are talking about .

Pro fighting is based on rules.

K1, PRIDE , UFC, Dream, Muay Thai, etc

He signed up for this as if he is better than the rules. He lost. He needs to take his lumps. Some sports are better at certain things.

I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.

Stop accusing me of implying some stupid points I am not.

Obviously both of these guys are great fighters.

But in real life you can encounter every type of attack - punches, kicks, grips, knives, guns, and much more. The more different things you know how to use or defend against the better. In real life you will have no referee coming to your aid if someone pulls out an attack/weapon you are not used to.

I repeat - I absolutely don't care about sports. I am only interested in fighting sports as far as they can be transferred to practical combat skills. Hitting backside of your opponents head when there is such an opening is very practical.

Then don't watch boxing. Shit. Stop watching UFC
Non of those things are real combat enough for you.

That I will definitely do! That boxing undercard put me to sleep...so lame and boring!
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(08-27-2017 01:24 AM)Mage Wrote:  That is right.

I would also like to develop this thought further.

Even if someone is better at some sport then another guy he can still lose if he acts overconfident and chooses the wrong strategy.

Therefore - Mayweather did not win by default. He quite possibly would have lost if he abandoned any strategic thought and attacked McGregor with full force in round one. Damn he would even lose to a sumo wrestler if he would take that to absurd levels and would attack straight on and never retreat.

So stop saying he toyed with MCGregor and allowed him to get as far as he did. The time he defeated McGregor is determined by the power/endurance ratio between these fighters and their disciplines.

Similarly if they both fought under MMA rules and McGregor would chose a stupid strategy he would still lose. Probably a stupid thing for McGregor to do under these rules would be not to rush Mayweather and not to bring him down to ground and into some chokehold ASAP. But the thing is they are both world class fighters and would chose best strategies they have.

The only reason Mayweather won was due to him being able to see. Real fighters fight blindfolded. Am I rite, bro?
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(08-27-2017 01:26 AM)raveking Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:16 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:07 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.

Stop accusing me of implying some stupid points I am not.

Obviously both of these guys are great fighters.

But in real life you can encounter every type of attack - punches, kicks, grips, knives, guns, and much more. The more different things you know how to use or defend against the better. In real life you will have no referee coming to your aid if someone pulls out an attack/weapon you are not used to.

I repeat - I absolutely don't care about sports. I am only interested in fighting sports as far as they can be transferred to practical combat skills. Hitting backside of your opponents head when there is such an opening is very practical.

Then don't watch boxing. Shit. Stop watching UFC
Non of those things are real combat enough for you.

That I will definitely do! That boxing undercard put me to sleep...so lame and boring!

At least you are honest.

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(08-27-2017 01:25 AM)Fortis Wrote:  A lot of hamstering going on after the great white hope got TKO'd by thr black man with 'bitch wrists.' lol

Connor has a garbage gastank and is not in the same league as JJ, DC or Mayweather, sorry.

The best part of the fight is when all the idiots who were screaming at the TV's for Mcgregor and trying to trash talk Mayweather (through the TV) thinking they were tough shit watch their hero lose to Mayweather like we all knew would happen.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
I also won't diss Connor himself, but for what it's worth, I'll just say that I don't trust UFC lately and suspect that they have a tendency of overhyping their fighters to generate revenue, given how much of a joke Ronda Roussey turned out to be.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
(08-27-2017 01:16 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:07 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:38 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  You dont know what you are talking about .

Pro fighting is based on rules.

K1, PRIDE , UFC, Dream, Muay Thai, etc

He signed up for this as if he is better than the rules. He lost. He needs to take his lumps. Some sports are better at certain things.

I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.

Stop accusing me of implying some stupid points I am not.

Obviously both of these guys are great fighters.

But in real life you can encounter every type of attack - punches, kicks, grips, knives, guns, and much more. The more different things you know how to use or defend against the better. In real life you will have no referee coming to your aid if someone pulls out an attack/weapon you are not used to.

I repeat - I absolutely don't care about sports. I am only interested in fighting sports as far as they can be transferred to practical combat skills. Hitting backside of your opponents head when there is such an opening is very practical.

Then don't watch boxing. Shit. Stop watching UFC
Non of those things are real combat enough for you.

You really don't get it right?

I cannot believe a repped forum member is acting that dumb. Are you drunk or trolling?

Nobody said sword-fighting is more realistic then unarmed fighting. I would say in modern times one is more likely to get involved into unarmed fighting then swordfighting.

I am talking about being competent in as many fighting forms as realistically possible.

What is so hard to understand about that?
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(08-27-2017 01:27 AM)worldwidetraveler Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:24 AM)Mage Wrote:  That is right.

I would also like to develop this thought further.

Even if someone is better at some sport then another guy he can still lose if he acts overconfident and chooses the wrong strategy.

Therefore - Mayweather did not win by default. He quite possibly would have lost if he abandoned any strategic thought and attacked McGregor with full force in round one. Damn he would even lose to a sumo wrestler if he would take that to absurd levels and would attack straight on and never retreat.

So stop saying he toyed with MCGregor and allowed him to get as far as he did. The time he defeated McGregor is determined by the power/endurance ratio between these fighters and their disciplines.

Similarly if they both fought under MMA rules and McGregor would chose a stupid strategy he would still lose. Probably a stupid thing for McGregor to do under these rules would be not to rush Mayweather and not to bring him down to ground and into some chokehold ASAP. But the thing is they are both world class fighters and would chose best strategies they have.

The only reason Mayweather won was due to him being able to see. Real fighters fight blindfolded. Am I rite, bro?

No. bro. You are being wrong on purpose.
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(08-27-2017 01:30 AM)Mage Wrote:  You really don't get it right?

I cannot believe a repped forum member is acting that dumb. Are you drunk or trolling?

Nobody said sword-fighting is more realistic then unarmed fighting. I would say in modern times one is more likely to get involved into unarmed fighting then swordfighting.

I am talking about being competent in as many fighting forms as realistically possible.

What is so hard to understand about that?

You're more likely to get into a fight where one person has a weapon these days. TK isn't the one acting dumb.
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(08-27-2017 01:29 AM)cascadecombo Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:25 AM)Fortis Wrote:  A lot of hamstering going on after the great white hope got TKO'd by thr black man with 'bitch wrists.' lol

Connor has a garbage gastank and is not in the same league as JJ, DC or Mayweather, sorry.

The best part of the fight is when all the idiots who were screaming at the TV's for Mcgregor and trying to trash talk Mayweather (through the TV) thinking they were tough shit watch their hero lose to Mayweather like we all knew would happen.

I think most people who rooted for McGregor knew he has little chance to win.
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(08-27-2017 01:30 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:16 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:07 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.

Stop accusing me of implying some stupid points I am not.

Obviously both of these guys are great fighters.

But in real life you can encounter every type of attack - punches, kicks, grips, knives, guns, and much more. The more different things you know how to use or defend against the better. In real life you will have no referee coming to your aid if someone pulls out an attack/weapon you are not used to.

I repeat - I absolutely don't care about sports. I am only interested in fighting sports as far as they can be transferred to practical combat skills. Hitting backside of your opponents head when there is such an opening is very practical.

Then don't watch boxing. Shit. Stop watching UFC
Non of those things are real combat enough for you.

You really don't get it right?

I cannot believe a repped forum member is acting that dumb. Are you drunk or trolling?

Nobody said sword-fighting is more realistic then unarmed fighting. I would say in modern times one is more likely to get involved into unarmed fighting then swordfighting.

I am talking about being competent in as many fighting forms as realistically possible.

What is so hard to understand about that?

Probably the part where, judging from how you express yourself, more than likely have next to no actual experience in fighting much less martial arts.

Are way off topic in this thread about Floyd and Connor.

And are oblivious in general.
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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
(08-27-2017 01:30 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:16 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 01:07 AM)Mage Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:51 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 12:44 AM)Mage Wrote:  I know what i am talking about, but you cannot understand it.

I am not looking at it from a sports perspective. I am not interested in sports. I am interested in fighting. I am making a point that no sport reflects perfectly who is a better fighter, because a sport - any sport is not like a real fighting. Still some sports are undeniably closer to real fighting then others. Boxing is closer to real unarmed fighting then balroom dancing and MMA is closer to real unarmed fighting then boxing.

Ok so I could kill mayweather and Connor in a knife fight. So fucking what.

Knives are not part of the rules. Does that make them bad fighters or not Great?

No.

Stop trying to find reasons and rationale for why Connor or mayweather is not not great.

I trained guys how to knife fight that did two tours in Fallujah. Most of those guys would kill both fighters barehanded. Does that take away from their skill? No. Under the same rules my guys would lose.

Stop accusing me of implying some stupid points I am not.

Obviously both of these guys are great fighters.

But in real life you can encounter every type of attack - punches, kicks, grips, knives, guns, and much more. The more different things you know how to use or defend against the better. In real life you will have no referee coming to your aid if someone pulls out an attack/weapon you are not used to.

I repeat - I absolutely don't care about sports. I am only interested in fighting sports as far as they can be transferred to practical combat skills. Hitting backside of your opponents head when there is such an opening is very practical.

Then don't watch boxing. Shit. Stop watching UFC
Non of those things are real combat enough for you.

You really don't get it right?

I cannot believe a repped forum member is acting that dumb. Are you drunk or trolling?

Nobody said sword-fighting is more realistic then unarmed fighting. I would say in modern times one is more likely to get involved into unarmed fighting then swordfighting.

I am talking about being competent in as many fighting forms as realistically possible.

What is so hard to understand about that?

I'm pretty sure Traveler Kai is a Conor hater or a troll...for someone whose supposed to be a "martial arts expert" he's pretty closed minded. Just to piss him off more, I'll just say that boxing is a safe space for slap fighters that don't want any business of a shin bone nailing them across the head. Its hilarious he's saying "muh boxing cardio" but can't even simply acknowledge that having multiple disciplines is better than having just one.
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