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(08-27-2017 05:33 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  It's good to see that the boxing promoters still got the skills to make a great spectacle out of nothing. These boxing cats know the game. They even make the levelheaded RVF'ers debate intensely and buy into their multiple angles of attack (white/black, america/europe, mma/boxing).

This fight never had any competitive relevance and yet both just got paid "fuck you money". Hundreds of millions. Most people have to beg their boss for a $100 raise.

We're in the age of peak soy and still the mano a mano slugfest continues to be the biggest show on earth.

Respect these huckster promoters. They know exactly the primal marketing triggers that work. I think it's great, respect to both fighters and fuck the haters.

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For all the criticism of McGregor's shit talking, this fight never would have happened if he didn't have his charisma and hadn't been running his mouth as he does. Hell, Mayweather's probably secretly thanking him for the easiest and biggest paycheck he's ever had.

And yeah, fine effort but Mayweather has it sussed. Let him punch himself out and save your energy to go into top gear when the time is right.

Also great how a causal discussion about a fist fight escalates to full blown nuclear war between members in the space of a few pages. I love this place!
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(08-27-2017 06:07 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  For all the criticism of McGregor's shit talking, this fight never would have happened if he didn't have his charisma and hadn't been running his mouth as he does. Hell, Mayweather's probably secretly thanking him for the easiest and biggest paycheck he's ever had.

And yeah, fine effort but Mayweather has it sussed. Let him punch himself out and save your energy to go into top gear when the time is right.

Also great how a causal discussion about a fist fight escalates to full blown nuclear war between members in the space of a few pages. I love this place!

There was nothing better to discuss. The thread was better than the fight.

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(08-27-2017 06:15 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 06:07 PM)Matsufubu Wrote:  For all the criticism of McGregor's shit talking, this fight never would have happened if he didn't have his charisma and hadn't been running his mouth as he does. Hell, Mayweather's probably secretly thanking him for the easiest and biggest paycheck he's ever had.

And yeah, fine effort but Mayweather has it sussed. Let him punch himself out and save your energy to go into top gear when the time is right.

Also great how a causal discussion about a fist fight escalates to full blown nuclear war between members in the space of a few pages. I love this place!

There was nothing better to discuss. The thread was better than the fight.
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(08-27-2017 01:16 PM)kosko Wrote:  Floyd looked like shit though overall. No reason to let amateur level boxer even hang around with you. Floyd started his effort in the 4/5th round but still had to let it drag on for 10 rounds. Any younger more practical boxer would of our Conor on his ass in 3 rounds max.

Overall, Floyd got exposed as a slow old man. He wont come back because any hungry younger boxer would best him. U just think it's more telling Conor was even able to hang around. I get the "strategy" but this was literally Lebron James playing one-on-one with a high level College recruit. I'm sure the recruit could score a few times but Lebron would dismantle him quickly.

He had to sell it, bro. We would have felt pissed (I watched the fight at a friend's place who had PPV'd it) if he knocked out McGregor prematurely. After the fight, Floyd apologised for the Pacquiao fight (as we all knew he spent that fight running and ducking). Basically, I felt satisfied from the event but I would have been delighted to see McGregor on the canvas.

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(08-27-2017 05:26 PM)Repo Wrote:  Is one year training even enough for an MMA fighter to build up the stamina needed for a full boxing fight? Ignoring all other aspects.

Starting from a couch potato? No. Starting from the best MMA fighter in the world who already trains every day? I would have said yes, but it's clearly a no.

Is 2 years of retirement enough time to lose the stamina needed to beat the best MMA fighter in the world? No.

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. Did Conor simply underestimate the amount of cardio he would need, or was there just not enough training time for him to obtain the necessary level of cardio?

He only trained for this fight for what, a year? MMA fighters don't need the crazy stamina that boxers have built up over a lifetime of fighting. Kai, what is your opinion?
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Didn't watch the fight, was out walking with my wife past a few Irish pubs. They were so dead quiet so I knew immediately the Big Mouth lost.

I have not seen Mayweather walk forward like that, shrug off weak shots and land punches almost at will on someone, since he made his pro debut against low level opponents.

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"Great. Now we need 2 more sequels and a fourth one, in which Mayweather is killed by a Russian boxer and McGregor must avenge him."

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(08-27-2017 09:55 PM)Paracelsus Wrote:  Gold from the Return of Kings Disqus comments:

"Great. Now we need 2 more sequels and a fourth one, in which Mayweather is killed by a Russian boxer and McGregor must avenge him."

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(08-27-2017 07:52 PM)Repo Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 05:29 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 05:26 PM)Repo Wrote:  Is one year training even enough for an MMA fighter to build up the stamina needed for a full boxing fight? Ignoring all other aspects.

Starting from a couch potato? No. Starting from the best MMA fighter in the world who already trains every day? I would have said yes, but it's clearly a no.

Is 2 years of retirement enough time to lose the stamina needed to beat the best MMA fighter in the world? No.

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. Did Conor simply underestimate the amount of cardio he would need, or was there just not enough training time for him to obtain the necessary level of cardio?

He only trained for this fight for what, a year? MMA fighters don't need the crazy stamina that boxers have built up over a lifetime of fighting. Kai, what is your opinion?

different kinds of stamina. a grappler would easily outlast a boxer on the ground while the grappler would have numb arms after a few rounds of boxing. both would have amazing cardio in their own sports.
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Man I remember getting laughed at on Sherdog when I was saying this fight is happening for sure... there was wayyyyy too much money to be made to NOT make this fight. Conor received 10X the highest guaranteed purse of his career... while Floyd will get another 100Mil check that he won't cash... All is Good! I'm even sure these mofos will become friends for that matter! Both love the $$$
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What about the Floyd and Ronda Rousey fight?

All you gotta do is ask them questions and listen to what they have to say and shit.
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  1. Floyd Mayweather - $600 Million
  2. George Foreman - $300 Million
  3. Manny Pacquiao - $250 million
  4. Oscar De La Hoya - $200 Million
  5. Lennox Lewis - $140 Million
  6. Sugar Ray Leonard - $120 Million
  7. Conor McGregor - $100 Million
  8. Vitali Klitschko - $65 Million
  9. Muhammad Ali - $50 Million
  10. Marvin Hagler - $45 Million

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(08-27-2017 07:52 PM)Repo Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 05:29 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 05:26 PM)Repo Wrote:  Is one year training even enough for an MMA fighter to build up the stamina needed for a full boxing fight? Ignoring all other aspects.

Starting from a couch potato? No. Starting from the best MMA fighter in the world who already trains every day? I would have said yes, but it's clearly a no.

Is 2 years of retirement enough time to lose the stamina needed to beat the best MMA fighter in the world? No.

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. Did Conor simply underestimate the amount of cardio he would need, or was there just not enough training time for him to obtain the necessary level of cardio?

He only trained for this fight for what, a year? MMA fighters don't need the crazy stamina that boxers have built up over a lifetime of fighting. Kai, what is your opinion?

MMA does not need crazy stamina levels because not everyone in the ranks of the UFC roster can run that long to begin with. One of the reasons Jon Jones or GSP were so great is because they had 2 or 3 times the gas of everyone else in their division. The Diaz brothers have great tanks too but again, they were/are boxers and train with Freddie Roach.

GSP trains with the Canadian Olympic wrestling team sometimes during his camps. You have to have insane cardio to do something like that, but hey that's one of the reason GSP is so great in MMA.

More younger guys are in better shape than in years past. There are no more Tank Abbott like guys or anyone that sloppy in MMA these days.

Anyway, in pro boxing and amateur levels too, rounds can be as low as 4 to 10 for the less experienced fighters and the new up and comers. Boxing matches in the low levels are almost never 12 rounds. That shit is for headliners, some mid-level guys and big names. Connor was sort of disrespecting boxing a little bit by coming in there and not having even enough for a legit 10 rounds worth of cardio, but eh it was supposed to be a circus anyway.

To get an idea how much cardio pro boxers at the top have, look at the top NBA players right now. Pull any of the top 20 players right now and that is the kind of cardio we are talking about. Pro soccer players ditto. No elite MMA fighter I can think of (160lbs+ at least) has a gas tank like Kevin Durant or Steph Curry, but plenty pro boxers do, especially Floyd.

If I recall correctly, Floyd loves playing full court basketball on the side for fun.

Another thing is that MMA fighters have more muscle than boxers do, due to the nature of the sport and our training. Our shoulders are bigger, traps, forearms, hams, glutes, etc. The larger your muscles are, the more and the faster the available oxygen gets consumed. Boxers are crazy lean like basketball players.

If anyone thinks I am shitting on MMA fighter's cardio, if it means anything to you, most football players pro or college cannot hang with MMA guys cardio wise. We usually have alot more than your average football player. I personally have had to lift enough linebackers, linemen, and other skill position guys off the mat because they are just too spent. Wide receivers usually do alot better.

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(08-27-2017 10:29 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 07:52 PM)Repo Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 05:29 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 05:26 PM)Repo Wrote:  Is one year training even enough for an MMA fighter to build up the stamina needed for a full boxing fight? Ignoring all other aspects.

Starting from a couch potato? No. Starting from the best MMA fighter in the world who already trains every day? I would have said yes, but it's clearly a no.

Is 2 years of retirement enough time to lose the stamina needed to beat the best MMA fighter in the world? No.

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. Did Conor simply underestimate the amount of cardio he would need, or was there just not enough training time for him to obtain the necessary level of cardio?

He only trained for this fight for what, a year? MMA fighters don't need the crazy stamina that boxers have built up over a lifetime of fighting. Kai, what is your opinion?

different kinds of stamina. a grappler would easily outlast a boxer on the ground while the grappler would have numb arms after a few rounds of boxing. both would have amazing cardio in their own sports.

It's not so much the stamina in my view, it is the necessary level of comfort to be truly relaxed in that environment, and that takes a long time to build. I haven't boxed seriously in years, but on the odd occasion I go spar, I can easily go 5 or 6 rounds just by keeping generally fit - this is because I boxed for long enough to be extremely relaxed in the ring.

By contrast, I've been doing BJJ for 5 months now, and I still gas relatively quickly, because I'm still inefficient in my movements, and rely more on strength etc.

Stamina can be built fairly quickly. The kind of relaxed mastery that stops you gassing takes a much longer time to build. McGregor got tired because he was tense, and hasn't mastered stand up fighting.
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^ Good point on "relaxed mastery." Conor remarked that he thought the most annoying thing about Floyd was how calm he was. Conor could not get into his head. Once that bell was rung Floyd went full zen.

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(08-28-2017 10:06 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 10:29 PM)cascadecombo Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 07:52 PM)Repo Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 05:29 PM)Captainstabbin Wrote:  
(08-27-2017 05:26 PM)Repo Wrote:  Is one year training even enough for an MMA fighter to build up the stamina needed for a full boxing fight? Ignoring all other aspects.

Starting from a couch potato? No. Starting from the best MMA fighter in the world who already trains every day? I would have said yes, but it's clearly a no.

Is 2 years of retirement enough time to lose the stamina needed to beat the best MMA fighter in the world? No.

Yeah, thats what I'm thinking. Did Conor simply underestimate the amount of cardio he would need, or was there just not enough training time for him to obtain the necessary level of cardio?

He only trained for this fight for what, a year? MMA fighters don't need the crazy stamina that boxers have built up over a lifetime of fighting. Kai, what is your opinion?

different kinds of stamina. a grappler would easily outlast a boxer on the ground while the grappler would have numb arms after a few rounds of boxing. both would have amazing cardio in their own sports.

It's not so much the stamina in my view, it is the necessary level of comfort to be truly relaxed in that environment, and that takes a long time to build. I haven't boxed seriously in years, but on the odd occasion I go spar, I can easily go 5 or 6 rounds just by keeping generally fit - this is because I boxed for long enough to be extremely relaxed in the ring.

By contrast, I've been doing BJJ for 5 months now, and I still gas relatively quickly, because I'm still inefficient in my movements, and rely more on strength etc.

Stamina can be built fairly quickly. The kind of relaxed mastery that stops you gassing takes a much longer time to build. McGregor got tired because he was tense, and hasn't mastered stand up fighting.

Great points.

I brought up before somewhere, that with BJJ, if you train your fingers, wrists, etc. with kettlebells and other things, you can peel a guy's hands off your gi with just a couple fingers.

Little stuff like this, is just more experience and mastery. You can save a shitload of energy doing little stuff like this instead of using your entire arm and half your body to pull a guy's grip off you. Some vets do little stuff like shrugging a shoulder out of the gi jacket and turn it into a sudden arm submission on a guy who thought he was winning because he had a death grip on me and was on top. Just give them that black belt wink. Wink

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I expected as much - it was a great match to me - everyone got what they wanted.

I don't understand how anyone could've bet on Conor winning this.

I'd of bet him standing his ground at least 6 rounds.

One of my buddies bet money on Connor KO'ing Mayweather in the 6th which was laughable.

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Still 49 - 0.

That wasn't a boxing match, that was an exhibition.

Connor isn't a boxer, that was as real a fight as the Undertaker fighting Mankind in WWE.

The only loser in that fight are the people that spend $100 on the PPV.

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RE: Floyd Mayweather vs Conor McGregor is August 26th 2017
I've been in Ireland for the last few weeks. It's amazing but the media coverage of Conor has been overwhelmingly negative. There is definitely a class divide in terms of those who support and hate him, the working class love him and the middle class hate him. The idea that he is the pride of Ireland or that the whole country is behind him is certainly not true, lots of Irish were delighted to see him lose.

Personally, as somebody firmly in the pro McGreggor camp, I was very disappointed in Conor, I thought he would do something different or come with some preparation but it looks like he just went through a regular camp and came completely unprepared, Floyd just let his gas tank run out and then picked Conor off. It was an embarrassing display and McGreggor basically robbed his loyal fan base for a big pay off.
08-28-2017 12:18 PM
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