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They should try India. They're Indians!!! These wankers are no different to virtue signalling whites flying to Africa to adopt a kid when there's plenty of white orphans. There's a billion Indian's out there. Pretty sure you can find one Indian orphan to adopt.

Instead, you want a white kid because you're pre-selecting for motives outside of being a parent, and if you're pre-selecting for motives outside of being a parent, it means you're already a bad parent. These kids are orphans. If you want to give them the best possible chance of growing up without problems, you make sure they have the best environment possible. Pretty sure a white kid with Indian parents isn't the best environment possible...

But these two don't give a fuck. They want a white kid because... What was their reason again? I thought they said they didn't care about color? So why are they suing? Why not just go adopt an Indian kid. Because they want a fashion accessory, that's why - and now they're trying to manipulate the British legal system to get what they want. Fuck these guys. If I was PM, I'd deport them for being cunts. Don't care how long they've lived in the UK.
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(10-19-2017 05:44 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  No foreign group has any "right" to be in a foreign country.

The end.

The Native Americans in the US agree with you..
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(10-19-2017 05:30 PM)911 Wrote:  As long as they don't blow up passenger jets, or go on shooting rampages in colleges.

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It would be nice also if they tried to integrate. Other than the Hassidic Jewish community, I can't think of any other ethnic group that is as clannish.

Why are you comparing UK Indians with Canadian Indians? They're very different. Should we stereotype all white people because of the IRA or the Columbine massacre?

A lot of the Indians in Canada are backwards Sikh village Punjabis - not all Indians are the same.

Why are you showing a picture of a lunatic mass shooter with a knife that is incorrectly labelled as ceremonial? A ceremonial knife is a kirpan.
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(10-19-2017 05:30 PM)911 Wrote:  As long as they don't blow up passenger jets, or go on shooting rampages in colleges.

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It would be nice also if they tried to integrate. Other than the Hassidic Jewish community, I can't think of any other ethnic group that is as clannish.

Seriously fake news:

Quote:It concluded that a "cascading series of errors" by the government of Canada, the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), and the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) had allowed the terrorist attack to take place.[4]

Never heard about the attack, but if you have secret services all over it, then it was most likely a false flag attack.

Sikhs are fine and they integrate well enough. They don't have sex grooming gangs -
they fight those gangs - and they rather are concerned making money.

Yes - they are extremely clannish, but you can live with them in your community. Also - they will fight for their new homecountry with absolute loyalty.

The couple above should have been given the kid - best take it away from a lesbian/transgender/fucked-up couple.
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Not to mention, sikths handle muslims well. IIRC, a big part of Sikth culture involves rejecting Islam via warfare.

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(10-20-2017 01:26 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Why are you comparing UK Indians with Canadian Indians?

A lot of the Indians in Canada are backwards Sikh village Punjabis - not all Indians are the same.

I guess you have never been to Southall.
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(10-19-2017 09:14 PM)ManAbout Wrote:  
(10-19-2017 05:44 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  No foreign group has any "right" to be in a foreign country.

The end.

The Native Americans in the US agree with you..

A good example to be wary of large number of foreigners coming to your lands.

However, it is not clear who lived in the Americas first, it might have been white Europeans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solutrean_hypothesis
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(10-20-2017 10:00 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  
(10-20-2017 01:26 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Why are you comparing UK Indians with Canadian Indians?

A lot of the Indians in Canada are backwards Sikh village Punjabis - not all Indians are the same.

I guess you have never been to Southall.

I have, many times. I'm a village Punjabi background myself, but the ones in Canada are on another level of backwardness. They tend to not mix with outsiders, whereas in the UK many Punjabis go to pubs and clubs and mix with everyone.
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(10-22-2017 09:59 PM)WalterBlack Wrote:  
(10-20-2017 10:00 AM)ManAbout Wrote:  
(10-20-2017 01:26 AM)WalterBlack Wrote:  Why are you comparing UK Indians with Canadian Indians?

A lot of the Indians in Canada are backwards Sikh village Punjabis - not all Indians are the same.

I guess you have never been to Southall.

I have, many times. I'm a village Punjabi background myself, but the ones in Canada are on another level of backwardness. They tend to not mix with outsiders, whereas in the UK many Punjabis go to pubs and clubs and mix with everyone.

Don't know what you're talking about. The Sikhs here in Canada also go to pubs and clubs and mix with everyone. The sexual predation is real, even though the chode-boys among them may be unaware of it. Trying to separate UK Sikhs from Canadian Sikhs is unfounded. No matter where you go, Sikh Temple is the site of riots and fights with knives and baseball bats. They handle Muslims well, but that doesn't make them good citizens. The Chinese here complain about the special privileges the Sikhs have carved out for themselves.
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(10-19-2017 01:15 PM)TheMost Wrote:  
(10-19-2017 01:03 PM)scotian Wrote:  My experience with Sikhs in Canada at work and in the community (Edmonton) has been positive; their communities are clean, well kept and non-ghetto. I’ve never seen a Sikh beggar, prostitute or been harrassed by a dude in a turban but I didn’t grow up around them and my interactions with them are limited. I think like most immigrant communities from Asia, the FOBs can be rude but most of their kids seem pretty cool to me.

Come to Surrey. It is constant low level war. Any white who they perceive as lower than middle class status, they treat like shit. If they perceive a white as high status, they will treat you very nice, and you won't see the crooked shit. I've watched them lying their face off to government officials with no fear at all. If you are a male, they'll either bully you and drive you off, or be very nice and warm and welcoming to you while they defraud you in some way. And they won't let you see what they're up to with the white wimminz and teenage girls. Even so, thanks to the red pill I know what I'm looking at when I stumble across it from time to time. And the kids who grow up in Canada seem much more rude and arrogant than the FOB. The FOB seem to have more humility, maybe the language barrier keeps them quiet and limits them to their own community. I've gone through phases of life where I've presented as high status, and also as low status. So I've experienced both sides of things.

This is a really good post. I've been friends, even very close family friends with numerous Indians. They HAVE tended to be very charming, and atleast early on pretty loyal. But you are absolutely right, there is a pattern of befriending those who can be useful to them Judges, lawyers, prominent white community members, cops etc. And an appalling attitude towards whites they perceive as "lower caste" eg shopworkers, administrators, work subordinates. To them fraud is just a laugh, a bit of a game. Yet I see VERY few actually convicted (much like the Muslim paedo gangs) - the Establishment won't admit the truth because they know how big the backlash will be!

I remember as a student, I worked in a call centre. And the wealthy Asians were appalling (as were some wealthy whites) but openly far worse than the whites. One Asian "boasted" to me "you are a minion, an idiot, I am a DOCTOR". So I gave the cunt a volley of what Tommy Robinson would like to say, but doesn't.

The problem today is that immigrant groups are such a large proportion of the population, they see no need to integrate or even try with whites. My high school was largely white, so Asians mixed. But my university had cliques according to race. Ironically my cirle was very red pill and we'd express ourselves in a forthright un-"PC" way. Yet we were the only group that would allow outsiders. Infact it was the ONLY multi race group.

I've tried doing business with various ethnic groups, but today in many cities things are becoming very divided according to class and racial group. I've seen a lot of antiwhite fraud and crime from Muslim cliques and Indian cliques. Yet these groups are FAR less like to cheat their own racial/family networks. So I have to think "do I want an extra (unnecessary) layer of risk?" When I see all this "Muslim business council" and "London Indian business club" stuff cropping up, I really start to wonder where its going. (yea as if we don't know...!)

I actually feel sad for the Asians who ARE/seem nice people and don't try and ram the "pc" shite down people's throats or side with Asian cliques while ignoring British.

Everyone talks about the Muslim problem, but there are other ethnic groups causing problems in Britain too.
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(10-23-2017 07:23 AM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  This is a really good post. I've been friends, even very close family friends with numerous Indians. They HAVE tended to be very charming, and atleast early on pretty loyal. But you are absolutely right, there is a pattern of befriending those who can be useful to them Judges, lawyers, prominent white community members, cops etc. And an appalling attitude towards whites they perceive as "lower caste" eg shopworkers, administrators, work subordinates. To them fraud is just a laugh, a bit of a game. Yet I see VERY few actually convicted (much like the Muslim paedo gangs) - the Establishment won't admit the truth because they know how big the backlash will be!

I remember as a student, I worked in a call centre. And the wealthy Asians were appalling (as were some wealthy whites) but openly far worse than the whites. One Asian "boasted" to me "you are a minion, an idiot, I am a DOCTOR". So I gave the cunt a volley of what Tommy Robinson would like to say, but doesn't.

The problem today is that immigrant groups are such a large proportion of the population, they see no need to integrate or even try with whites. My high school was largely white, so Asians mixed. But my university had cliques according to race. Ironically my cirle was very red pill and we'd express ourselves in a forthright un-"PC" way. Yet we were the only group that would allow outsiders. Infact it was the ONLY multi race group.

I've tried doing business with various ethnic groups, but today in many cities things are becoming very divided according to class and racial group. I've seen a lot of antiwhite fraud and crime from Muslim cliques and Indian cliques. Yet these groups are FAR less like to cheat their own racial/family networks. So I have to think "do I want an extra (unnecessary) layer of risk?" When I see all this "Muslim business council" and "London Indian business club" stuff cropping up, I really start to wonder where its going. (yea as if we don't know...!)

I actually feel sad for the Asians who ARE/seem nice people and don't try and ram the "pc" shite down people's throats or side with Asian cliques while ignoring British.

Everyone talks about the Muslim problem, but there are other ethnic groups causing problems in Britain too.

From my personal experience for Indians depends on culture that a person has grown up. Many 1st generation Indian that live in the US or UK as a child that did not have significant Indian community present will act more "White" compare to those with strong Indian backgrounds. As the said person does not have similar ethnic group around to reinforce culture norms of their home country.

Problem with recent influx lot of recent immigrants in Anglosphere are bring their backward thinking from home the US/UK and enable by the large community of immigrants in their new countries. They slowly destroy the identity and values communities they live in as show other idiots it okay to practice the same shit as back home.

This environment is going to create lot of ABCD: American(British) Born Confused Desi. The the culture clash of two cultures as group of people are brought up with mix match of values. The only hope is their parents are smart enough to teach the good values of both culture. Group of people that do not belong anywhere by the end of the day.
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(10-23-2017 07:23 AM)BelyyTigr Wrote:  
(10-19-2017 01:15 PM)TheMost Wrote:  
(10-19-2017 01:03 PM)scotian Wrote:  My experience with Sikhs in Canada at work and in the community (Edmonton) has been positive; their communities are clean, well kept and non-ghetto. I’ve never seen a Sikh beggar, prostitute or been harrassed by a dude in a turban but I didn’t grow up around them and my interactions with them are limited. I think like most immigrant communities from Asia, the FOBs can be rude but most of their kids seem pretty cool to me.

Come to Surrey. It is constant low level war. Any white who they perceive as lower than middle class status, they treat like shit. If they perceive a white as high status, they will treat you very nice, and you won't see the crooked shit. I've watched them lying their face off to government officials with no fear at all. If you are a male, they'll either bully you and drive you off, or be very nice and warm and welcoming to you while they defraud you in some way. And they won't let you see what they're up to with the white wimminz and teenage girls. Even so, thanks to the red pill I know what I'm looking at when I stumble across it from time to time. And the kids who grow up in Canada seem much more rude and arrogant than the FOB. The FOB seem to have more humility, maybe the language barrier keeps them quiet and limits them to their own community. I've gone through phases of life where I've presented as high status, and also as low status. So I've experienced both sides of things.

This is a really good post. I've been friends, even very close family friends with numerous Indians. They HAVE tended to be very charming, and atleast early on pretty loyal. But you are absolutely right, there is a pattern of befriending those who can be useful to them Judges, lawyers, prominent white community members, cops etc. And an appalling attitude towards whites they perceive as "lower caste" eg shopworkers, administrators, work subordinates. To them fraud is just a laugh, a bit of a game. Yet I see VERY few actually convicted (much like the Muslim paedo gangs) - the Establishment won't admit the truth because they know how big the backlash will be!

I remember as a student, I worked in a call centre. And the wealthy Asians were appalling (as were some wealthy whites) but openly far worse than the whites. One Asian "boasted" to me "you are a minion, an idiot, I am a DOCTOR". So I gave the cunt a volley of what Tommy Robinson would like to say, but doesn't.

The problem today is that immigrant groups are such a large proportion of the population, they see no need to integrate or even try with whites. My high school was largely white, so Asians mixed. But my university had cliques according to race. Ironically my cirle was very red pill and we'd express ourselves in a forthright un-"PC" way. Yet we were the only group that would allow outsiders. Infact it was the ONLY multi race group.

I've tried doing business with various ethnic groups, but today in many cities things are becoming very divided according to class and racial group. I've seen a lot of antiwhite fraud and crime from Muslim cliques and Indian cliques. Yet these groups are FAR less like to cheat their own racial/family networks. So I have to think "do I want an extra (unnecessary) layer of risk?" When I see all this "Muslim business council" and "London Indian business club" stuff cropping up, I really start to wonder where its going. (yea as if we don't know...!)

I actually feel sad for the Asians who ARE/seem nice people and don't try and ram the "pc" shite down people's throats or side with Asian cliques while ignoring British.

Everyone talks about the Muslim problem, but there are other ethnic groups causing problems in Britain too.

The problems arise when there is a critical mass of one community, as in when there are hundreds of thousands of immigrants from the same narrow ethnic/national/religious community in one urban enclave, and when that community is inherently more insular (it's more the case for Sikhs than for other Indians). You have less of that dynamic with South Asians in the US (even in places like NJ or Houston where their numbers are high), where Indians integrate well, than you do in Canada or the UK, where that dynamic is more like Mexicans in LA, or to a lesser extent Cubans in Miami, it's the dynamic of an immigrant community carving out a parallel society from its host country.

With that critical mass you have political and economic power, which pushes elected officials to cuck and pander.

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British-born Sikh couple banned by council from adopting due to Indian heritage because 'only white children were available' win £120,000 in landmark discrimination case

Quote:A Sikh couple have today been awarded nearly £120,000 [USD $150k] in damages after they were rejected by the local adoption service because of their Indian background.

Sandeep and Reena Mander sued The Royal Borough of Windsor and Maidenhead council in a landmark case after they were turned away from Adopt Berkshire three years ago.

The couple, who were awarded the damages at Oxford County Court after a four day hearing last month, were told their chances would be improved if they looked to adopt in India or Pakistan.

Mr and Mrs Mander, who are aged in their 30s, from Maidenhead, Berkshire, sued the council for discrimination and their case has been backed by the Equality and Human Rights Commission.

The hearing heard how when Mr Mander stated they were both born and raised in Britain but their parents were born in India, he was told that they were unlikely to be approved as potential adopters due to their 'Indian background', because only white children were available in Berkshire and the surrounding area.

The couple, who were described as 'high earners' and earn a number of properties including their five bedroom home, had undergone seven unsuccessful IVF treatments. They have since adopted a child from the United States.

Judge Clarke awarded the couple general damages of £29,454.42 each and special damages totalling £60,013.43 for the cost of adopting a child overseas.

After the ruling Mr and Mrs Mander said: 'This decision ensures that no matter what race, religion or colour you are, you should be treated equally and assessed for adoption in the same way as any other prospective adopter.'

Judge Melissa Clarke said in her ruling: 'I find that the defendants directly discriminated against Mr and Mrs Mander on the grounds of race.'

The judge also made a declaration that the council 'directly discriminated' against the couple in the provision of adoption services on the grounds of race.


But she rejected the Manders' claim that they had also suffered discrimination under Article 12 of the European Convention of Human Rights and the right to 'found a family'.

In her judgment, Judge Clarke said: 'I consider that there is clear evidence that Mr and Mrs Mander, who I have found expressed willingness to consider a child of any ethnicity, received less favourable treatment than would a comparable couple of a different ethnicity.

'All of this discloses, in my judgment, what the unknown social worker stated in the very first phone call with Mr Mander, namely that Adopt Berkshire operated a policy of placing adoptive children with parents who come from the 'same background', namely race.

'I am satisfied that race was the criterion by which the unknown social worker decided not to book an initial visit with Mr and Mrs Mander because the defendants have not satisfied me that there was any other criterion applied by that unknown social worker.

'All the evidence points to Adopt Berkshire's refusal to progress Mr and Mrs Mander being made on the assumption that it would not be in a putative child's best interest to be matched with prospective adopters who did not share their race.

'This assumption was a stereotype which gave race a disproportionate importance as a factor regarding the welfare of children and it was a move away from such stereotypes and reduce the delays caused by attempts to achieve a perfect or near ethnic match between adoptive parents and adoptive children that Michael Gove, as Secretary of State for Education, introduced the 2011 Action Plan and 2013 amendments to the 2002 Act.'

After the ruling Mr Mander, and his wife, who was born in Leamington Spa, Warwickshire, added: 'We believe our experience with Adopt Berkshire was not just an isolated event.

'When we went through the Intercountry adoption process we came across many couples who had similar experiences.

'Let us be clear, a child's welfare is the most important thing when looking for any prospective adopter.

'However matching cultural values and beliefs is just one of many areas that should be assessed when looking at the suitability of adopters to ensure that child's welfare.

'It should never be the overriding factor to stop you even being considered, which is what happened to us.

'And certainly, cultural values and beliefs should never be assumed based on an ethnic tick-box, as was our experience.

'We felt there needed to be a change. This is what this case has all been about for us, to ensure discrimination like this doesn't happen to others wishing to do this wonderful thing called adoption.

'And today's landmark ruling will ensure this doesn't happen again.'

A council spokesman said: 'We are very disappointed by the judgement in this case, which we will now take time to consider in full.

'We have reviewed our policies to ensure they are fit for purpose and are confident that we do not exclude prospective adopters on the grounds of ethnicity.

'Finally, we always put the best interests of the children at the heart of any adoption decisions and are committed to best practice in our provision of adoption services.'
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