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Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia Datasheet July 2017
Ulaanbaatar, Mongolia July 2017


ABOUT ME

Korean-American. From California. Mid-to-late twenties. 5'11". 170 pounds. Athletic build.


DURATION OF STAY

2 Weeks


EXISTING INFORMATION

The hyperlinks below will be listed under chronological order, based on the OP's first post.

2009

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-702.h...t=mongolia:

2015

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-50552...t=mongolia:


ACCOMMODATION

Чагдаржавын гудамж (Chagdarjav Street): I don’t know the exact name of the apartment building I stayed in. This is the address that is provided in AirBnB. The location is great as it’s in the city center. It’s cozy, spacious and well decorated. The main issue I have is that it has the weakest cold-water pressure. The owners told me that the building is undergoing maintenance. As in, it barely has any cold or warm water pressure. If you move the nozzle to increase water pressure it becomes scorching hot. Essentially you only have super weak cold-water pressure or scalding hot water. Which makes taking a shower or using the sink very difficult. The Wi-Fi is slow most of the time and there’s no AC so you have to open the windows to cool the place down. During the summer months, the temperatures can become very hot.

Personally, I would choose to stay somewhere else. There’s many AirBnB options to choose from here. I would look for accommodation in the southern half of the city. Anywhere near Seoul Street, Shangri-La Mall or the National Sports Stadium is a good choice. As you will be near the clubs, bars and restaurants. Good news is that UB is not a big city. Everywhere you need to go is a 20-minute walk at most, or less than a 10-minute taxi ride.

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TRANSPORTATION

UB Cab | Regular Taxi | Random Cars

UB Cab: Uber does not exist here yet. But this app is the closest thing. The concept works the same, but you can only enter your pick-up location. It does not allow you to enter the drop-off location. You must verbally tell the driver where you want to go or show them the address on your phone when he arrives to pick you up. Also, you cannot connect your credit card, so cash payments are the only way. The app does not display the cost of the ride before the trip like Uber. I will explain at the end of this segment on how to figure out the price. The drivers of UB Cab are essentially taxi drivers that answer the ride requests. You will see a marked taxi cab come pick you up. Most of the drivers will either have very limited English or no English at all. There is a 1,000 Mongolian Tughrik (.50 cents USD) charge that’s added onto the fare when calling a cab from the app.

Regular Taxi: You can hail them from the street but they do not have a meter inside the car. I will explain at the end of this segment on how to figure out the price.

Random Cars: I used this method the most. Basically, you just stick your hand out on the road and eventually a random car will stop and pick you up. Most of the time it’s a Toyota Prius. Almost everyone in this city drives a Toyota Prius. I’ve never seen one city with so many of them. The drivers are normal people who work normal office jobs at times and they just feel like being a taxi and earning a little side money. It’s almost like Uber where people just drive as a side job. But they answer to no one and keep all the money. I’ve seen more of these cars than marked taxi cabs. I’ve never had a problem using this method and never once felt I was in danger. On average, their English skills are better than the full-time taxi drivers who drive the marked taxi cabs. Sometimes I had a husband and wife drive together. The husband would be driving and the wife sits in the front seat to keep him company.

Now this is the most important part. How much do you pay? This applies to all 3 methods (UB Cab, Regular Taxi, Random Cars). It’s easy really. You have 2 options.

First, if you’re with a local they will know how much to pay for the ride. Or they can negotiate with the driver. If you yourself try to negotiate with the driver you will always end up paying more. Once the driver hears you speak English they will label you as a tourist. Also, most of the drivers’ English skills are very poor to non-existent (except with the random cars, sometimes they speak good English. Not all the time but sometimes). So even if you try to negotiate they won’t understand you.

Second, a local taught me this rule and it’s worked very well for me. It’s called the 1 Kilometer Rule. For every one 1 Kilometer you travel, you pay 1,000 Mongolian Tughriks. So just pull up google maps and it will tell you how many kilometers your destination will be. If you’re in between just round up or round down. For example. If your destination is 2.2 KM’s away. You stick your hand out and wait for a random car to pull up. You get inside the car say nothing and don’t negotiate. Just get in, show the driver your destination or verbally say it if you know how to say it in Mongolian. When you arrive at your destination, you give them 2,000 Tughriks and get out. Most of the time they won’t complain or say anything. But, if they do. Just ignore them and get out and start walking away. Most likely they won’t chase you down. It’s not worth it for that little money. Also, it’s good to have exact change. Carry a bunch of 1,000 Tughrik notes as most of these drivers won’t have change.

WORD OF CAUTION: Never sit in the front seat unless you have your friends in the back seat with you. And of course, never pull out your wallet in front of the driver. My second day here I made this stupid avoidable mistake. I sat in the front seat of a regular taxi alone. When we reached my destination, I took my wallet out to pay the guy. He saw the money in my wallet and the dude just snatched my money out of my wallet. Now the driver is a 6’3 240-pound Mongolian guy. I don’t speak the language and I’m inside his taxi. Looking outside the window, I can see other taxi drivers hanging outside. It could be his buddies or maybe not, I don’t know. I told the driver to give me my money back, no surprise he said “no”. At that moment I had a choice, do I walk away or fight him inside his car. Given the fact that the driver is bigger than me, I don’t know if he has a weapon on him, I don’t speak the language and there were other taxi drivers outside. I chose to walk away. When outside of the car I reached into my pocket to get my phone to get a picture of the license plate. But as I did that he drove away super-fast, he knew what I was trying to do. I was pissed off but what else could I do. Even if I fought him and won, he could go to the police and claim that I refused to pay him and that I attacked him first blah blah blah. Fortunately, he only stole $60 USD worth of Tughriks, so it wasn’t that much. But still, I was pissed for the next few days. I went to the police and they checked the CCTV cameras and of course it was out of range and it was night time. They wrote a report and told me they will look into it. But my translator who was with me told me that she was getting upset with them because they acted like they didn’t care. They were trying to rush us out as soon as possible as well. I’m not surprised really, they get so many pick-pocket and other tourist problems that they just don’t care anymore.

Anyways, hopefully my story helps prevent something like this from happening to someone else. I’ve traveled to many countries and I should have known better. I just got comfortable with using Uber, Grab or any kind of credit-card paying ride sharing app. I never had to worry about carrying cash. I wasn’t paying attention and I paid the price for it ($60 USD to be exact) haha. Here in Mongolia, the best thing to do is to take your taxi money out before. Put it in a separate pocket away from your wallet and sit in the backseat directly behind the driver when you’re alone. Always be careful with these drivers, sometimes you’ll get some shady people. One time I had a driver with a giant Nazi Swastika tattooed on his shoulder. And yes, it was the real Swastika not the Buddhist symbol as those two can be easily mistaken. I can’t wait till the day Uber or any credit-card paying ride share app arrives here. Until then, stay safe.


ONLINE GAME

Tinder

Now onto a lighter note. Tinder is relatively new here and there’s not a lot of profiles compared to other capital cities of Asia. The population of Mongolia is 3 million with 1 million of that living in UB (Ulaanbaatar). But it’s still worth it to swipe because most of the girls on Tinder all speak good English. Some of these girls studied abroad in western countries or other parts of Asia. I’m curious to see how popular Tinder will be here a few years from now.


DAY GAME

Shangri-La Mall: Brand new mall. It has the only I-Max theatre in Mongolia. Lots of cute girls walking around here and the girls working in the stores are cute too.

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Seoul Street Night Market: They close this street on the weekends and it becomes a night market with lots of food and alcohol. It's only open during the summer months. Even though it’s during the night time it’s a good place to open girls because many of them pre-game here. Seoul street has many pubs, bars and the most popular club in the city is in here.


NIGHT GAME

There’s only two big clubs here and I only went to these two clubs. The locals tell me the other clubs aren’t worth visiting. As they’re empty or only old people go to them. But you never know, everyone has different opinions. There’s also many pubs and brewery’s here. I will only comment on the venues that I went to.


CLUBS:

ZU Club: In Seoul Street. For some reason, you can’t look this place up on google maps. I don’t know why. But its next to Tous Les Jours Bakery. If you google this bakery then you will see ZU right next to it. ZU Club is the newest biggest most popular club in town. Open Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. 20,000 Mongolian Tughrik cover charge everyday with no drink included. Plays all kinds of music. Good ratio of girls. Wednesday nights are lady’s night. Best time to arrive is 12:30am. Plays some Hip-Hop and Top 40. But lots of deep house and EDM.

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Mint Ulaanbaatar: In home plaza. Used to be the best club in town before ZU Club opened up. But it’s still good, and they’re supporters still consider them the #1. But the good thing about this place is that they’re open on the weekdays. The only day they’re closed is on Sundays. 25,000 Tughrik cover charge on Wednesday, Thursday and Saturday. 30,000 Tughrik cover charge on Fridays. Monday and Tuesday, I believe is free. Drinks are not included for all days. Even though ZU Club is the popular new kid in town. Mint still has crowded nights on weekends and they play more Hip-Hop and Top 40. I’ve been here once on a weekday, but that was during Naadam Festival (I will explain more about this later). Which is a Mongolian holiday where people get 1 full week off. I don’t know how the weekdays are when it’s not during Naadam holiday.

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BARS:

MB Beer Plus: Cool modern bar. Serves food and drinks at a decent price. Good date spot.

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Chinggis Brewery: Very Mongolian style bar. Affordable drinks and food. Gets hot inside due to lack of AC. Better to sit near the AC machine or downstairs. Nice date spot


Grand Khan Irish Pub: Popular bar with tourists, expats and locals. They have a nice outdoor terrace with a good view of the city. Good place for dates

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SIGHT SEEING

Mongolia is known for its beautiful nature. But there’s a few tourist spots around the city that’s worth visiting.

Chinggis Khan Statue: About 1 hour east of the city center of UB. It’s a huge statue of Genghis Khan (the locals call him Chinggis instead of Genghis). Worth a visit.

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Zaisan Monument: A monument on top of a hill that overlooks UB. It’s a cool monument in commemoration of Mongolia’s involvement in helping the Russians fight the Nazi’s in World War 2.

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Gandantegchinlen Monastery: Here you can find a massive golden statue of Buddha. They are building a giant temple next to this Monastery that should be cool when it’s complete.

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Chinggis Square: Formerly known as “Sukhbaatar Square”. Is a giant square in the city center. There’s a statue of Genghis Khan (much smaller than the main statue outside of the city but still cool to check out) and other famous Mongols. The square is used as a venue to host concerts, political gatherings and other local activities.

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MY EXPERIENCE

My first week in UB was during the Naadam Festival (I didn’t even know it was Naadam when I was planning my trip here). Which is like the Mongolian Olympics of some sort. It occurs every year in July. They have sporting events and it’s a huge celebration in the country. Everyone gets 1 full week off for holiday. So many Mongols go to the country side or go abroad for vacation. There’s pro’s and con’s to being in UB during Naadam.

PRO: There’s no traffic in the city. Seoul street is open every day including the weekdays. ZU Club is also open every day. Girls who are normally working on the weekdays are now out partying. But many of them are out of the country… Fear not though, as there were still a decent number of girls at the club.

CON: Everything is closed. Banks are closed so you have to go the “State Department Store” to get currency exchange done. Almost all the UNITEL and Mobicom stores are closed. These two companies are the two biggest cellphone networks in the country. So, you have to find that 1 store that’s open to get a local SIM card. Basic services like going to the barber shop or getting laundry done are all closed. Most importantly, many of the UB girls are out of town.

I noticed that on Tinder, there were more profiles available after the Naadam holiday was over because many of the girls were back in UB. Personally, I would rather be in UB before or after Naadam. As there’s more volume of girls in the city. But I still did okay during Naadam. I day gamed a lot, especially in the mall. I got this one girls number who works in one of the shops there. We hung out and banged the entire week of Naadam. After Naadam was over, Tinder started to become more resourceful. I met up with a few different girls. Eventually settling on this one girl who speaks fluent English and never says no to any sexual request. She’s cute and cooks me breakfast every day before she leaves for work.

Ideal Night Game Schedule:

Sunday: ZU and Mint are both closed so I don’t know

Monday - Tuesday: Mint

Wednesday: ZU or Mint. I'd try ZU first.

Thursday: Mint

Wednesday - Saturday: ZU or Mint


CONCLUSION

I’m impressed with the beauty of Mongolian girls. On average, they have good bodies with cute faces. They’re very feminine and they understand they’re place as a woman. They’re very sweet and are open-minded to sex. The average college educated Mongolian girl speaks good English. The past datasheets mention how aggressive the Mongolian men can be and how they don’t like foreigners getting with their woman. Since my ethnicity is Korean, I somewhat resemble the look of a local. I’ve had numerous Mongols tell me that they thought I was half Mongolian mixed with Japanese or Korean. So, I myself never had any aggression acted upon me.

Personally though, I’ve never seen Mongolian men acting aggressive or trying to fight foreigners of any kind who are with Mongolian girls. The locals tell me that as long as you stay in the city center you’ll be okay. But if you are in the outskirts of UB or in the “ghetto” parts of UB. You might run into some of that aggression, especially with the drunk Mongolian guys. I did see a fight in the dance floor of ZU one time, but that was between two drunk Mongolian guys.

The summer months here are really nice. Warm weather, no humidity, clear blue skies and not too much pollution. Many of the Mongolian students who study abroad come back home during summer break. The traffic can be a little hectic at times during rush hour, but nowhere in comparison to other Asian Capital cities. The city is small enough where you can walk everywhere and relax. But it’s just big enough where it’s not a small-town mentality and you can enjoy a decent night life.

Until next time, Peace!
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Awesome, thanks. Sounds like a cool city and I've always wanted to go. Do you think your ethnicity shielded you from aggression though? I've heard horror stories about white guys getting tons of aggro at night... but maybe its hyperbole.
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Lol at "seoul street"

Guessing the Korean business presence is pretty big there

Thanks for the datasheet - UB is on my list, nice to see a datasheet from someone with a similar background

Edit: is there any plus from being Korean? Like do girls watch k dramas etc

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OP could you resize the photos in your post? This looks like an awesome data sheet but its a bitch to read because the photos are way too big.

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RichieP Wrote:Do you think your ethnicity shielded you from aggression though? I've heard horror stories about white guys getting tons of aggro at night... but maybe its hyperbole

Maybe I don't know, it's hard to say. But during my entire time there I've never seen any problems with white guys during the night. I've met a few European white guys who live here and have Mongolian wives. They never told me about any problems. I feel like it's maybe over exaggerated. Like I said before, as long as you stay in the city center of UB I think you'll be fine. Once you venture out of the city you might face some aggression. I wouldn't worry to much to be honest.

whiteknightrises Wrote:is there any plus from being Korean? Like do girls watch k dramas etc

I don't think so. I feel like any guy who has style, game, decent looks and is in shape can do fine here. Regardless of race or ethnic background. Yes there's a big Korean business presence here. There's a Korean restaurant almost every block and there's a big Samsung office. I feel like girls of almost every East Asian country watch K drama haha.

scotian Wrote:OP could you resize the photos in your post? This looks like an awesome data sheet but its a bitch to read because the photos are way too big.

I'm past the point where I can make edits. But everything looks okay on my end...? Maybe next time ill use smaller photos. Sorry about that.
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Looking forward to being in Ulaanbaatar in November/December!
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Damn thats crazy that they set up shop even in Mongolia of all places

Anyway thanks for the info! Good stuff as always

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See any black dudes in Mongolia? How'd they make out?

Would knowing Russian give you a major advantage there?
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(07-25-2017 10:25 PM)Heart Break Kid Wrote:  See any black dudes in Mongolia? How'd they make out?
Would knowing Russian give you a major advantage there?

I had a thing with a Mongolian lady here in the US. She spoke fluent Russian and her English even had a Russian accent. She told me it was common for people to know Russian, but that there is an age divide. It's more common for women under 35 to speak English than Russian.

I've never been to Mongolia so I can't speak to the rest of it.

I can say that based on my 1 experience that Mongolian women seem less conservative on the topic of sex than other nearby countries.
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mcgooie Wrote:Looking forward to being in Ulaanbaatar in November/December!

Make sure to bring a coat haha

whiteknightrises Wrote:Damn thats crazy that they set up shop even in Mongolia of all places. Anyway thanks for the info! Good stuff as always

Ya man there's a decent amount of Korean people here. Some of them live here and all have Mongolian wives. Koreans are everywhere in Asia now a days haha. Korea is a small country, so i'm not surprised that they're all branching out else where. I'll be in Kazakhstan next week and there's a sizable Korean population there as well.

Heart Break Kid Wrote:See any black dudes in Mongolia? How'd they make out? Would knowing Russian give you a major advantage there?

I saw only 2 black guys during my entire time in Mongolia. I saw them at ZU club. One of them was trying to hit on some of the Mongolian girls but they would just walk away. But he was short, fat, dressed weird and was a bit old. Based on their accent I think they were Africans from Africa (maybe Nigeria). Maybe the reception could be different for African-Americans or Africans from western countries. But I feel like any guy regardless of race who has style, game, charisma, dress wells, goes to the gym etc... Can find a girl out there that will like them.

As far as Russian goes. I feel like most Mongolian people have a basic understanding of Russian. Some Mongolians I've met lived in Russia for a period of time and they speak it fluently. It definitely wouldn't hurt having Russian speaking skills here. But you'll do just fine with English. On average from my experience, the younger generation seem to have a stronger grasp of English compared to Russian.
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Great effort mate. I have a business opportunity to go there for a month. Not sure if I will take it but if I do, will definitely take this into consideration.
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Really cool and good effort. Never thought much about Mongolia until recently when I watched a documentary on the middle class in Ulaanbaatar. Probably wouldn't be able to make the trip in this few years but I would say in 4-5 years would definitely be going. Given the longevity of some threads here, hopefully this would still be updated and relevant by then haha.

Let me know if any of you need any translation work from English to Mandarin or Vice Versa.
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Zerdame Wrote:Really cool and good effort. Never thought much about Mongolia until recently when I watched a documentary on the middle class in Ulaanbaatar. Probably wouldn't be able to make the trip in this few years but I would say in 4-5 years would definitely be going. Given the longevity of some threads here, hopefully this would still be updated and relevant by then haha.

I doubt it but please post an update when you do arrive there haha
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