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RE: London
(09-18-2018 10:15 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 10:11 AM)thedarkknight Wrote:  
(09-18-2018 10:06 AM)weallbang5s Wrote:  Someone mentioned that Eastern European girls are the biggest gold diggers in London. Rubbish. Biggest gold diggers in London are the black women, 'born and raised in London,' as they claim. Avoid like the plague.

But bro, a black gold digger in London is like using a broom to fill a pool. It’s completely unfit for the purpose because who wants black chicks in London?

TDK

They do have value, mate. It's London after all, full of Middle Eastern sexually frustrated men, where even 2s have value.

Do you really think color matters, when there are so many thirsty betas in this city that never have sex?
Do you seriously believe men in London bang often? Then, you don't know where you live.

Edit: a friend from Eastern Europe called me yesterday. He had been in London for 2,5 years and did not get laid. He got a threesome by accident after 2.5 years of jerking off. Black women are not popular, right?

Well eastern european men would have the hardest time.
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Just discovered this thread. I can contribute to the thread with recommendations of some upscale clubs, nightclubs, restaurants and lounges in London. Especially useful for those running a baller game or targeting at models. Quality of chicks is way higher comparing to ordinary places but you must beware of gold diggers though. You may need a membership/invitation for some of these places but it doesn't seem that tough to obtain in comparison with some other posh London lounges and clubs.

Cipriani, Nobu, Zuma, Bagatelle, Annabel's, Socialista, Mamounia, Loulou's, Tramp, Maddox, BEAT, Toy RoOm, Scandal, Cuckoo

Did I miss something?
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RE: London
How are Savile Row custom tailor prices these days?
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RE: London
I have just returned to London (SE Londoner born and raised) after 2 years. I must admit it has gone downhill in this time. I used to get a few IOI's on a daily basis just walking around Central London. Now almost nothing. Tinder is really bad now as well, I used to get a few matches a day. Now maybe 1 or 2 a week if I'm lucky. Not to mention the number of fatties that seemed to have infested it of late.

What the hell happened while I was away?

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(02-01-2019 10:58 AM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  I have just returned to London (SE Londoner born and raised) after 2 years. I must admit it has gone downhill in this time. I used to get a few IOI's on a daily basis just walking around Central London. Now almost nothing. Tinder is really bad now as well, I used to get a few matches a day. Now maybe 1 or 2 a week if I'm lucky. Not to mention the number of fatties that seemed to have infested it of late.

What the hell happened while I was away?

It's never really been that good. London has been shit for years for Tinder and dating life generally. I am banging on average 25-30 girls a year but still find it shit compared to many other cities. Self entitlement, shit weather and the more recent proliferiation of instagram and prostitution ("mutually beneficial") amongst young girls is making things even worse.

The average young man in London no doubt struggles for years getting laid. Like most big cities the top 1% bang more and more, while the rest of the population are masterbating themselves to sleep following every night out.

If you know what you are doing fantastic (although still has progressed adversely). But most men are absolutely fucked and will take years of social and body conditioning to get them acceptable to the opposite sex's modern standards.
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Yeah. I guess it's always been bad, I just didn't really notice before because I had never really been anywhere else! I spent the last 2 years living in Japan, which was so much better, although I did spend a while in a LTR.

I went to the Philippines for the first time just 2 weeks before returning to London. I do not need to add to what has already been discussed ad nauseam on here before about that country. All I can say is I'm going back as soon as possible and for much longer this time...

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(02-01-2019 11:37 AM)Vincent Chase Wrote:  I am banging on average 25-30 girls a year

That's still bloody impressive though mate!

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02-01-2019 12:57 PM
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RE: London
(02-01-2019 10:58 AM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  What the hell happened while I was away?
You were away and fell out of the London game, it's an intense game with insane highs and even worst lows but with this comes a revolving door of pussy that's not difficult to obtain.

It's not London, it's you.
02-01-2019 01:04 PM
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(02-01-2019 01:04 PM)Bikal Wrote:  You were away and fell out of the London game
I 100% agree, it happens so quickly as well.

(02-01-2019 01:04 PM)Bikal Wrote:  It's not London, it's you.
You know my time in Asia definitely changed me, and my game. But I have to say, the game suited to the E & SE Asian markets i.e. mostly World Game suits my personality so much better than the cocky, aloof guy game that is necessary here.

I'm just going to use the next few months to improve my inner game, I'm hitting the gym 4x a week, I'm going to take some dance classes etc. That way I will be in the right frame of mind for my joyous return to SE Asia later this year.

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RE: London
The London dating marketplace LOL

When you go to other countries where the market is more favourable for men and women are by default feminine and respectful of men its almost impossible to go to back to taking London women seriously.

Yes you can find your niche/strategies and yes we keep a few chics on deck as were young and good looking, but as the old school black taxi drivers say 'the game is dead, son' even though they still go out there and work, still money to make/still pussy to slay.

So just like them i still deal with life on a day to day basis and get on with it, but just like they're setting up there 2nd chapter in tenerife, im setting up my second chapter in a pussy paradise.

2018 i actually got some nice ones but its just not worth the squeeze overall, im off to Ethiopia in March so will have a bit of fun then work hard and keep working the plan.

10% of the 8+ good, are actually good girls and not complete social media whores, these girls get wifed up and our of the game.
the other 90% of the 8+ chics can basically create a contest due to extreme level of attention, where you have to be either a 9 out of 10 guy, or a rich guy or a guy with high social status, or all 3. The 8s and 9s dont sleep around unless you fit these requirements, you can go on a few dates then you dont make the cut. Instagram has cemented this as they can filter very well now, global platform, there are 6s with 20,000 followers.

there is a sweet spot of 6-7 with good figures and humble that wont expect too much (wont expect a relationship) and are not gassed. Thats what i aim for here. Low maintenance.

There is not a high percent of women over a 7 in London either. Its low.

There are countries where the majority of the population are actually attractive and the minority are unattractive, in london the majority of people are unattractive.

Dont waste your time and money pursing the 8s and 9s when you could be building a business and creating a real legacy.

I smash the 8s and 9s on my travels. I keep it real if your smashing 7s, 8s and 9s regularly in London your either extremely good looking which makes you an outlier or your social status is very high, promoter etc. The games dead son
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RE: London
london dating market is like the london property market, overpriced/ no value.

You will be surprised at what £200k buys you in house in latin america (a mansion)
and you will be suprised at what your game/physique/looks gets you in latin america, sexual access to a unlimited supply of 7s, 8s and 9s thats what we want ultimately. Dont buy into the relationship trap.

and please none of that latin americans are just in it for the money crap. There all gold diggers.
90% of attractive women that you meet in these exclusive london night clubs are exactly the same after what they can get, ive seen middle aged men cry going through divorce and losing it all.
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I used to frequent Novikov bar, in Mayfair. Its a restaurant upstairs, and a bar downstairs.

We used to go to the restaurant with my wing around 20:00 or so to avoid face control at the door (face control begins later in the night) then we'd walk to the club after like its nobody's business.

Its 'high-end' (in London parlance this means expensive + gold diggers galore) but quality/atmosphere was quite above average.

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Best decision I took during my time in London was to leave that wretched place. In my opinion its the worst city to live in if you're red pill.
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(02-06-2019 10:03 AM)the.king Wrote:  I used to frequent Novikov bar, in Mayfair. Its a restaurant upstairs, and a bar downstairs.

I went to Novikov bar last week took a girl out and banged her at the end of the night. I just found it to be another pretentious bar nothing special about it. Maybe it gets better later in the night no idea but I just got bored there even with a girl. Went around to one or two "clubs" in soho, where girls were mostly horrible, guys were trying to start fights (some ugly bald guy literally just came up to me at the bar and pushed me out of the way, not the first time it's happened, I just left it as you never know if these guys are carrying knives while the girl told him to go fuck himself) while there were men on the dancefloor kissing and bumming each other. Then it was an expensive taxi home in the snow. Reminded me again of why I barely go out to those sort of places in London. Yeah I pulled a girl back and she left the next day, but was it worthy of my time (150-200 notches later)? No it wasn't. No wonder the whole city is materbating.
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RE: London
Couldn't agree more with the last few posts...

I only realised how tough and messed up the London dating market is when I started to travel. I find it tough to get regular bangs in London... although tinder has yielded some results but it isn't good enough for the hours I spent on it. I'm slowly getting into daygaming which has had some mixed results.

London is just a place to make money for me and I make sure I go on at least 5 holidays a year. With the way it's going, I'm pretty sure I'll marry a woman from another country lol

I can't stress how important travelling is for guys. If you lift, have a decent income, speak well you'd kill it in a lot of countries around the world. It also helps if you have a received pronunciation accent abroad from my experience.
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RE: London
those hot mixed race girls do you see in libertine, trap etc with the stinky attitude because shes mixed and knows every guy wants her. go to Dominican Republic they grow them on TREES (but their sweet), ive been to the D.R many many times and they actually look way better and there everywhere, where as here there a rare commodity. there sweet, feminine, with no attitude. its a culture shock. you can literally have 1 for every day of the year. it will blow your mind if you like the halle berry, Rosa acosta, hip hop video chic look. I dont even bother with hot mixed race girls in London anymore. Ive had girls with that rosa costa look in the D.R, in the UK those same girls would have 250k followers on IG and there reserved for US rappers (yes your competing with US/UK rappers like it or not) and a few top guys in London. Out there you can have her.

case in point Jay de Pie rce previous booty call of trey songz and justin beiber, good luck with your chances of smashing. Find her in brazil or dominican republic and she would be just another attractive girl in a sea of attractive girls

Na kita John son-
Slept with Michael B Jordan, an african footballer, a whole host of celebs. You will have zero chance unless your a millionaire.
You can work in Asda go on holiday to the Dominican Republic and can find someone of equal level (albeit with a bit of searching)

The list goes on and on, girls that are reserved for millionaires in London, Miami, LA,NYC, Dubai can be had in Punta Cana, Santo Domingo, Santiago, Medellin, Cali, Cartagena, Rio, Sao Paulo etc etc for pennys on the dollar. With no loss in quality


Be smart, travel.

Colombia- ill be going end of summer, those hot latina brunettes apparently grow on trees out there meant to be WAY better then the dominican. and its a huge country.

Brazil- will check out in 2020, Huge country so loads to explore

for hot white girls - i dont know which country is best, probably eastern europe, outside of my expertise tbh

Other countries that are potential pussy paradises to explore:
Morocco (there are some gorgeous Moroccan british girls in London (and france for that matter), guess what that same DNA you will find in Morocco, dont think there exclusive to London, or they got that beauty when there parents landed at heathrow airport for the first time), there gonna be there too.
Gambia/Ghana/Kenya/tanzania etc,- i need to find a pussy paradise for dark skin girls so will have to do some investigating
Cape Verde- suppose to be the next best thing for those who like the dominican/mixed look. Portuguese mixed with african, on my list.
Ethiopia/Eritrea- some of the most gorgeous women in the world, when a ethiopian(habesha) woman is fine, shes on another level of fine. In their natural setting they are femine, shy, submissive none of that flakiness that they get when they come to London.

"I only realised how tough and messed up the London dating market is when I started to travel. "-khallidkcl

Thats exactly what it is, you realise the treadmill is set to incline, once you go where men are actually valued. Feminism and social media has ruined everything.

Also another thing which i mentioned about a year ago but i had more detractors a year ago, but slowly i think people are beginning to realise

a lot of the london 7s, 8s,9s are prostituting themselfs, there taking cum to the face and getting fucked out and having arrangements or transactional relationships with wealthy, nigerians, russians, arabs etc, so dating you is bad for their business/waste of time.

The same way we regular guys go to brazil, D.R, thailand and run through those chics, rich men/celebs run through the london girls.
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I would love nothing more but to leave. However my career requires that I stay a bit longer. It’s a very difficult dating environment and the culture here is totally out of whack. A lot of good men that I know of have left or are in the process of leaving.
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Ahhh I just moved here and this is very relatable, even if I get an IOI from a girl at a club or a bar, once she adds me on Instagram it's all over Sad.

It sucks because I used to have a gf in London who was about an 8 and didn't use social media (e.g wife material). But she ended up dumping me.

I am not sure if I should travel the US or visit some of the countries you guys have mentioned (Ghana, Philippines etc). I'm Australian but have a British accent so I am hoping that I can find some girls to cheer me up.
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(02-07-2019 07:24 AM)Cman Wrote:  I am not sure if I should travel the US or visit some of the countries you guys have mentioned (Ghana, Philippines etc).

If it was me I would definitely pick the third world over the US (I mean I already did Big Grin). I've never been there, but reading other threads on here about the country, it seems the US is none too different from the UK when it comes to the dating market.

I am also trying to start remote freelancing on Upwork at the moment, although it's tough because half of India seems to apply to every job I go for! If I can make it work though, I would only be spending a few months of every year back here.

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(02-07-2019 08:10 AM)Unkown_Killa Wrote:  
(02-07-2019 07:24 AM)Cman Wrote:  I am not sure if I should travel the US or visit some of the countries you guys have mentioned (Ghana, Philippines etc).

If it was me I would definitely pick the third world over the US (I mean I already did Big Grin). I've never been there, but reading other threads on here about the country, it seems the US is none too different from the UK when it comes to the dating market.

True I have heard it is similar but apparently still leagues ahead of London if your are British or Australian. I also thought if I did the US I would try and visit some college towns and head up the west coast. My goal isn't just to nail girls but to meet some beauties who might be interested in me ?
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Wow, what am I reading, are you lot a bunch of sissies or what?

London is highly competitive, just like NYC, its only competitor. You all talk about Asia and EE like it's the answer, it's your downfall as it just shows that your SMV is low, I frequent Russia and other EE countries as I prefer the look not the ease but I never forget the hustle that's required in London as while I'm well off, I'm not a billionaire nor am I a millionaire.

As I can't compete on the ultra rich levels, I put effort into my appearance, my psychical attributes, my ability to dominate and crush the opposition, men are hunters, if you take the easy way (especially if you're banking on white god factor), then you're not worthy of the opportunities London has to offer.

London isn't actually that hard, I get many matches a week on Tinder, Bumble and Hinge, I can easily set up a date a night and I have the occasional fuck without effort, the amount of tourists that pass through looking for a quick fling is unreal, I don't day game as much as I'd like due to work but when I do, I get solid leads (with a few flakes) and I love night game, watch the poor saps pay out £££ and fail while I just do my thing and score.

Bottom line is that if you focus on the easy life in Asia, EE and SA, you'll never do well in London or anywhere where there is true competition, utilise the fight or flight response and fight for what you want!
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Bilal, I am assuming you are quite good looking, and are quite used to the London scene?

My problem at the moment is I'm not the best looking guy, and I definitely was punching above my weight with my last girlfriend. Because she dumped me I've just been struggling to pick myself up and expect to meet another girl like her. This is all Sissie talk I agree.

The only reason I would prefer somewhere easy is just at the moment I am very sensitive to rejection.

I used to do quite well when I was young, had hit about 40 girls before I was 22, but the game was different then, I was going to house parties and it was alot easier.

I'm assuming your advice is stick it out, build myself and focus heavily on physical appearance? Do you have any other tips more specific to the London scene? I have never been good at tinder, and I feel it's just depressing in London.
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Dont take my complaints of London to mean my SMV is low or the other guys SMV is low for that matter the two do not go hand in hand, as i did mention i do have options.

Numbers, dates, tinder matches are fluff it means nothing. im talking about girls that are on your rotation. 8s and 9s do not even use tinder or bumble mate, and they definitely dont take it seriously. most 8s or 9s would not be seen dead on the app.

My rotation right now consists.
Eritrean 7.5 , Jamaican British 6.5, Nigerian British 6.5, Caribbean British 6,
All these girls are im smashing and all are sucking the skin of my dick. all are submissive.
and i have some outer girls caribbean 7 and a few more that im not smashing but we talk and stay connected.

Getting 6s and 6.5s are no problem, i can go out and get these with not too much effort and they can be replaced.
but 7s and 8s, 9s are way harder. When i refer to the market im talking about the ability to find 7s, 7.5s, 8s and smash them, and keep smashing for a decent period of time, 3-6 months, and then if they leave you have the ability to replace them quickly. I could lose my team tomorrow and it might take me a while to put it back together maybe 6 months or a year.

90% of the 7s, 8s and 9s are not submissive unless you a certain type of guy and that bar is very high

A few questions i had for you-

These girls your smashing what are they out of 10.
and are you honesty smashing 7s and 8s and there sticking around?
What age range are you?
Have you travelled to south america before?
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one thing i should mention is im not white (im black) so no white go factor if that exists in london. and i dont go for white girls, so our experience will definitely be different, i imagine there is varying degrees of difficulty for each race and each race of girls will like different characteristics.

For example in the white community its blindingly obvious that beta males have girlfriends and are often coupled up.
in the black community alpha males get all the chics and beta males get zero pussy, which is also a reason why there is a lot of single parents in the black community. They will have kids with the leader/alpha of a group a lot of times and the alpha has a lot of options and doesnt settle, and will have kids with different women, not saying other races dont do it but its more prevalent in black communities, race and dating are a lot more linked then people realise. There almost the same thing. Then the cycle repeats inter generationally
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(02-07-2019 09:36 AM)Bikal Wrote:  Wow, what am I reading, are you lot a bunch of sissies or what?

London is highly competitive, just like NYC, its only competitor. You all talk about Asia and EE like it's the answer, it's your downfall as it just shows that your SMV is low, I frequent Russia and other EE countries as I prefer the look not the ease but I never forget the hustle that's required in London as while I'm well off, I'm not a billionaire nor am I a millionaire.

As I can't compete on the ultra rich levels, I put effort into my appearance, my psychical attributes, my ability to dominate and crush the opposition, men are hunters, if you take the easy way (especially if you're banking on white god factor), then you're not worthy of the opportunities London has to offer.

London isn't actually that hard, I get many matches a week on Tinder, Bumble and Hinge, I can easily set up a date a night and I have the occasional fuck without effort, the amount of tourists that pass through looking for a quick fling is unreal, I don't day game as much as I'd like due to work but when I do, I get solid leads (with a few flakes) and I love night game, watch the poor saps pay out £££ and fail while I just do my thing and score.

Bottom line is that if you focus on the easy life in Asia, EE and SA, you'll never do well in London or anywhere where there is true competition, utilise the fight or flight response and fight for what you want!

Seeing as you've been to Russia and EE, when are you dropping your a data sheet? Could you also drop a detailed London data sheet and gaming advice since you seem like an expert.

Looking forward to hearing from you.
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RE: London
Giama, I get where you are coming from I really do. I mainly go out in London and Birmingham, and top tier mixed race girls, with natural hair, and slim thick, are the type I go for and have been the hardest type of girls for me to get to the extent that they make getting black, white, or Asian girls seem like easy mode compared. I know it's true that we often have to compete with footballers and other top level guys to get them, but I think your estimation of how in demand they are is both accurate on the one hand in that many know their value in the scene and they're highly sought after (especially in more black circles), but you're also overestimating it by assuming it applies to all mixed race girls of that kind of caliber. It really doesn't and if you just keep hammering away at them you can get some real gems that don't know their value.

Regarding race, from what I see most of the top tier mixed girls are with either black men or other mixed men. I'm white and I'd say I start out from a disadvantage in that I'm not most of their type. But then I suppose I have an advantage when it comes to those mixed girls that are open to white men, or that like white men, because white men don't put them on as high of a pedestal so there's less competition, plus most white men get weird with them because of their race whereas I can move in both circles and treat them like they're normal.
02-07-2019 03:06 PM
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