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Quote:Neo-paganism is not a threat because... it doesn't even exist in anything approaching numbers.

There are 2 million Rodnovery in Eastern Europe and the numbers are rising steadily. In addition you have finno-ugric lines of tradition like the people of Mari El. Then you have Romuva in the Baltics. And the Kalash People, who also have an unbroken line of tradition. Furthermore, Stephen McNallen did a good job resurfacing the nordic religion of the blood.

This is neither an argument for or against any "neopaganism vs christianity". It's just nice to know. Maybe the West is synonymous with Christianity. Maybe the West is a cadaver and Christianity is not the solution to it, but the very blueprint for egalitarian ideologies. Anyways, any of the logical, rational reasons, why Christianity is superior are not sufficient for me to start believing in it. That case may be different for anyone else. It doesn't work for me. Also I think the future lies not in the West as in western countries, but in eastern European countries - countries that actually defend European Identity, and I am sure will survive because they haven't been bombarded by cultural bolshevism. Those countries have a rise in popularity of both traditionalist Paganism and traditionalist Christianity - isn't that strange! Maybe religion is not the most important value we have, but race and culture are. The West, at the other hand, is full of people I don't necessarily want to be associated with or support - regardless if "neopagan" or "christian", or even "white" or "german". I suspect my future will be on my homestead in Siberia, with my Russian wife and 10 kids. Leaving the degenerate cesspools to Antifa, SJWs and Immigrants. Leaving them to their well earned and inevitable deaths by their own hands.

The West is dead, long live the West. Paradoxically, in the East. Interesting times we live in.
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(09-28-2017 05:44 PM)reciproke Wrote:  
Quote:Neo-paganism is not a threat because... it doesn't even exist in anything approaching numbers.

There are 2 million Rodnovery in Eastern Europe and the numbers are rising steadily. In addition you have finno-ugric lines of tradition like the people of Mari El. Then you have Romuva in the Baltics. And the Kalash People, who also have an unbroken line of tradition. Furthermore, Stephen McNallen did a good job resurfacing the nordic religion of the blood.

This is neither an argument for or against any "neopaganism vs christianity". It's just nice to know. Maybe the West is synonymous with Christianity. Maybe the West is a cadaver and Christianity is not the solution to it, but the very blueprint for egalitarian ideologies. Anyways, any of the logical, rational reasons, why Christianity is superior are not sufficient for me to start believing in it. That case may be different for anyone else. It doesn't work for me. Also I think the future lies not in the West as in western countries, but in eastern European countries - countries that actually defend European Identity, and I am sure will survive because they haven't been bombarded by cultural bolshevism. Those countries have a rise in popularity of both traditionalist Paganism and traditionalist Christianity - isn't that strange! Maybe religion is not the most important value we have, but race and culture are. The West, at the other hand, is full of people I don't necessarily want to be associated with or support - regardless if "neopagan" or "christian", or even "white" or "german". I suspect my future will be on my homestead in Siberia, with my Russian wife and 10 kids. Leaving the degenerate cesspools to Antifa, SJWs and Immigrants. Leaving them to their well earned and inevitable deaths by their own hands.

The West is dead, long live the West. Paradoxically, in the East. Interesting times we live in.

Northern Europe is far more pagan in its values than Southern Europe.

Havamal perfectly describes the attitudes of most Scandinavians and Brits for example, not the Bible.

Protestant work ethic?

More like Pagan work ethic:

http://www.returnofkings.com/76064/21-qu...-lifestyle

Quote:Wake early

if you want

another man’s life or land.

No lamb

for the lazy wolf.

No battles won in bed.

Quote:The lame rides a horse

the maimed drives the herd

the deaf is brave in battle.

A man is better

blind than burried.

A dead man is deft at nothing.

Quote:A man should know

how many logs

stubs and strips of bark

to collect in the summer

to keep in stock

wood for his winter fires.

The scepticism towards wealth:

Quote:Become not

a beggar

to the money you make.

What’s saved for a friend

a foe may take

Good plans often go awry.

Quote:Load no man

with lavish gifts.

Small presents often win great praise.

With a loaf cut

and a cup shared

I found fellowship.

Christians and socialists both try to take credit for these attitudes found in Germanic people, when these have been the essence of Northern European values for thousands of years.

It's why the split with the catholic church was unavoidable. It is a Mediteranean church, not Northern European.
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Are what we see in Sweden and other Scandinavian countries in current times what you would consider the essence of Northern European values? How closely does the modern Swedish guy with his scarf and the Muslim guy living in his guest room resemble what's described in the Havamal?
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Quote:Christians and socialists both try to take credit for these attitudes found in Germanic people, when these have been the essence of Northern European values for thousands of years.

Simply false, Germans were extremely barbaric before Christianity. Incest, family feuds, and brutality (take what you want by force) were the norm before the Germanic tribes migrated into the decaying Roman empire.

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(09-29-2017 07:08 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
Quote:Christians and socialists both try to take credit for these attitudes found in Germanic people, when these have been the essence of Northern European values for thousands of years.

Simply false, Germans were extremely barbaric before Christianity. Incest, family feuds, and brutality (take what you want by force) were the norm before the Germanic tribes migrated into the decaying Roman empire.


We hear that Christianity is responsible for a great reduction in incest as the Catholic church banned cousin marriages. I'm curious as to why the Habsburgs took no notice and in one case even married an uncle to niece. This ultimately wiped out their line though sterility from genetic defects. As royalty did they consider themselves above the Catholic laws?
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(09-29-2017 07:19 AM)rotekz Wrote:  
(09-29-2017 07:08 AM)Samseau Wrote:  
Quote:Christians and socialists both try to take credit for these attitudes found in Germanic people, when these have been the essence of Northern European values for thousands of years.

Simply false, Germans were extremely barbaric before Christianity. Incest, family feuds, and brutality (take what you want by force) were the norm before the Germanic tribes migrated into the decaying Roman empire.


We hear that Christianity is responsible for a great reduction in incest as the Catholic church banned cousin marriages. I'm curious as to why the Habsburgs took no notice and in one case even married an uncle to niece. This ultimately wiped out their line though sterility from genetic defects. As royalty did they consider themselves above the Catholic laws?

I'm sure the Hapsburgs sounded much like a lot of the AntiChristians you see on this forum and elsewhere:

That they knew better, that Christianity was superstition, that it promoted weakness, that it was "foreign," etc.

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And yet, here you are, doing exactly that. While I think that discussion is interesting, don't lose track of the fact that the most pressing questions of our time are first and foremost not theological, but demographical. Would you prefer to live in a "ethnically enriched" environment, where everyone adheres to one single world view, or an ethnically homogenous environment, where people have varying ideas about spirituality and life? The answer always needs to be the latter.
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(09-29-2017 07:46 AM)reciproke Wrote:  And yet, here you are, doing exactly that. While I think that discussion is interesting, don't lose track of the fact that the most pressing questions of our time are first and foremost not theological, but demographical. Would you prefer to live in a "ethnically enriched" environment, where everyone adheres to one single world view, or an ethnically homogenous environment, where people have varying ideas about spirituality and life? The answer always needs to be the latter.

I'd prefer neither, both are doomed. But then again, who are you talking to? Who is here, doing exactly what?

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Christianity is part of Europe and so is paganism.

It's absurd to think you can remove a people's pagan traditions, that's cultural-marxism.
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(09-29-2017 11:15 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Christianity is part of Europe and so is paganism.

It's absurd to think you can remove a people's pagan traditions, that's cultural-marxism.

Paganism hasn't been part of Europe ever since Europe was civilized. This happened 1000-2000 years ago. Reading and writing, science and logos became ensconced in European culture, which is fundamentally Helleno-Christian.

The Germans were hunter-gatherers who were civilized by the Benedictine monks in the 7th century. There wasa network of 27,000 monasteries across western Europe. The Benedicitnes introduced the pagan northerners to agriculture and the written word, nd not just theology but also the science, wisdom and philosophy of the ancient Grecco-Romans. As importantly, they taught the tribes what were then cutting edge skills and craftsmanship: masonry, agriculture, engineering (civil, irrigation/agrarian, metallurgy. This was the foundation of German craftsmanship and work ethic.

Quote:Besides praying and working out their salvation and preaching the gospel, what else did monks pursue in those monasteries? The practical arts, agriculture were two of their most significant enterprises. They literally saved agriculture in Europe. They taught the folks how to cultivate the land, especially in Germany where they converted the wilderness into a cultivated country. Manual labor was intrinsic part of their rule which proclaimed “ora et labora” (pray and work). In England they owned one fifth of all its cultivable land. The monks would introduce crops, industries and production methods with which the people were not yet familiar: the rearing and breeding of cattle, horses, the brewing of beer, the raising of bees and fruits. The corn trade in Sweden was established by the monks, in Parma it was cheese making, in Ireland salmon fisheries, and in many places vineyards.

From the monasteries of Saint Laurent and Saint Martin the monks redirected the waters of St. Gervais and Belleville to Paris. They taught people irrigation on the plains of Lombardy which has always been some of the richest and most productive in Europe. They constructed technologically sophisticated water-powered systems at monasteries which were hundred of miles away from each other. The monasteries themselves were the most economically effective units that had ever existed in Europe. Water-power was used to crush wheat, sieving flour, making cloth, and tanning. Not even the Roman world had adopted mechanization for industrial use to such an extent.

The monks were also known for their skills in metallurgy. In the 13th century they became the leading iron producers in the Champagne region of France. They quarried marble, did glass-work, forged metal plates, mined salt. They were skilful clock-makers. One such clock installed in Magdeburg around 996 AD is the first ever. Another sits in excellent condition in London’s science museum. They also made astronomical clocks. One such was at the Benedictine Abbey of Saint Alban; it was designed by Abbot Richard of Wallingford. In short, monastic know-how pervaded Europe thus preventing a complete reverting to barbarism.

...

It was the monk’s commitment to reading, writing, and education which ensured the survival of Western civilization after the fall of the Roman Empire and the invasions of the Barbarians.They laid the foundations for European universities and became the bridge between antiquity and modernity. Admittedly this is a mere cursory survey of a vast subject but hopefully it renders the idea.
http://metanexus.net/essay/medieval-mona...vilization

This is the real foundation of the German character, and the German work ethic. German and Belgian beer, still to this day the finest in the world, with the same methods. The Swiss/German clocks, Parmesan cheese, great stone buildings: all those great attributes of European culture have come from the Church.

Without those, Scandinavian and German tribes would be not much different from the Laps or the African Masai, backwards hunter-gatherer cultures with a very limited use of the written language, agriculture or technology (limited to woodworking), and pagan beliefs. If you're a hunter gatherer society like most of sub-saharan Africa, you don't need a work ethic, you just need hunting skills and martial skills to fight off nearby tribes. Before Christianity, the Germans and northern Europeans weren't much different then from tribal societies in other parts of the world.





E Michael Jones on development politics in Africa, South America, and the influence of the missionaries.
From the 1:00:00 mark, Jones lays out how the Benedictines defines the German work ethic (I'd recommend listening to the whole video, it provides a great insight on key issues in development in the third world).



The other big issue with your post Brah is that you are casually bringing out cultural marxism while ignoring the spiritual dimension of cultural marxism, and that of the oligarchs. It is rooted in kabbalism, and fundamentally opposed to Christianity. It's a blend of pagan middle eastern beliefs (ancient Egypt, Babylon, Canaan) and European paganism. Sacrifices, blood rituals, fertility gods worship, sun-moon-star and weather god worship, those are all shared by European pagans and the masonic oligarch pagans alike.

Horned pagan god, baphomet, Rothschild party
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Human sacrifice in northern Europe, child and adults, and oligarch mock sacrifice ceremony (little doubt about the real thing being done behind closed doors):

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[Image: rothschildparty3.jpg]

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As well, a lot of the European pagan mantra was imported from the Middle East and Africa. "Paris" for example derives from Par-isii, or vessel of Isis. It was a city dedicated to the worship of the Egyptian goddess Isis, a cult which was imported from Africa/Mideast through Phoenician traders. Many other pagan European deities have roots further south/east.

Bottom line, European pagan practices are pretty close to the religious inclinations of the oligarchs, so their recent growth (and that of eastern religions in the West) is part of their plan to undermine their archenemy, Christianity.

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(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  The Germans were hunter-gatherers who were civilized by the Benedictine monks in the 7th century. There wasa network of 27,000 monasteries across western Europe. The Benedicitnes introduced the pagan northerners to agriculture and the written word, nd not just theology but also the science, wisdom and philosophy of the ancient Grecco-Romans. As importantly, they taught the tribes what were then cutting edge skills and craftsmanship: masonry, agriculture, engineering (civil, irrigation/agrarian, metallurgy. This was the foundation of German craftsmanship and work ethic.

Dude, you went completely of the deep end here. This is way below your usual level.

(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  The Germans were hunter-gatherers

Agriculture arrived in Northern Europe 5000 years ago.

(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  masonry

They built with wood because it was abundant. As do they today.

[Image: 1024px-S%C3%B8re_Harildstad_n%C3%B8rdre_...6934101320]

17th century wood house.

(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  agriculture

Farming was fully accepted more than 5000 bc in Northern Europe.

Unless you want to tell me that hunter-gatherers made this in 1500bc:

[Image: 02755138.jpeg]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trundholm_sun_chariot

(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  engineering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulfberht_swords

Quote:The original Ulfberht sword type dates to the 9th or 10th century, but swords with the Ulfberht inscription continued to be made at least until the end of the Viking Age in the 11th century.


You can be against paganism as much as you like but it is patently false that Christians brought what you claim to Northern Europe.
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(10-02-2017 03:57 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  The Germans were hunter-gatherers who were civilized by the Benedictine monks in the 7th century. There wasa network of 27,000 monasteries across western Europe. The Benedicitnes introduced the pagan northerners to agriculture and the written word, nd not just theology but also the science, wisdom and philosophy of the ancient Grecco-Romans. As importantly, they taught the tribes what were then cutting edge skills and craftsmanship: masonry, agriculture, engineering (civil, irrigation/agrarian, metallurgy. This was the foundation of German craftsmanship and work ethic.

Dude, you went completely of the deep end here. This is way below your usual level.

(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  The Germans were hunter-gatherers

Agriculture arrived in Northern Europe 5000 years ago.

(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  masonry

They built with wood because it was abundant. As do they today.

[Image: 1024px-S%C3%B8re_Harildstad_n%C3%B8rdre_...6934101320]

17th century wood house.

Wood was abundant in Germany and France too, but people there were living in buildings like these, because they've mastered civil engineering and masonry, through the preservation and advancement of Roman architectural science by the Church:

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[Image: Durham_Cathedral._Interior+photo+by+Oliver+Bonjoch.jpg]

While the Vikings up north were still living into wooden huts that were similar to what the Gauls and Franks had in their primitive pre-Christian stage.

The only noteworthy endemic Viking technologically was the drakkar, which was well-suited for upstream raids. That's about it. No books, no libraries, no science until they adopted the Church like the rest of Europe.

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(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  agriculture

Farming was fully accepted more than 5000 bc in Northern Europe.

Unless you want to tell me that hunter-gatherers made this in 1500bc:

[Image: 02755138.jpeg]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trundholm_sun_chariot

That's a Bronze Age artifact, a small religious toy made out of bronze. The Norse people were the last people to adopt the Bronze age, nearly 2,000 years after it arrived in Southern Europe. This artifact represented their view of astronomy: that the sun god brought the sun out every day on a chariot. If they were left alone like the Sami tribes further north, they would probably have still believed in that kind of mythology centuries later, with thunder-gods, fertility goddesses and sun gods, while Christian astronomers were paving the way for Renaissance astronomers like Copernicus and Kepler, which came out from the Christian university and monastery system.

Rudimentary farming was introduced to Northern Europe by farmers from Southern Europe and the Middle East.

http://sciencenordic.com/how-agriculture...candinavia

What the Benedictine monks brought were advanced forms of agricultural technology (breeding methods and strains like corn, irrigation, rotation, processing/mills etc).

Quote:
(10-01-2017 09:33 PM)911 Wrote:  engineering

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulfberht_swords

Quote:The original Ulfberht sword type dates to the 9th or 10th century, but swords with the Ulfberht inscription continued to be made at least until the end of the Viking Age in the 11th century.


You can be against paganism as much as you like but it is patently false that Christians brought what you claim to Northern Europe.
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The Ulfbert sword was recognizable by its signature lettering/logo, which is bordered by two crosses.

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Quote:NARRATOR: So what can this name tell us about who made these swords?

The fact that Ulfberhts appear over a 200-year period means they couldn't have been produced by a single craftsman. But the name seems to be Frankish, from a medieval empire that included France and Germany. And the signature holds an important clue.

JON ANDERS RISVAAG: There's actually a small cross in front of the name, and ordinary people would not put a cross in front of their name.

NARRATOR: During the Middle Ages, the Roman Catholic Church dominated the Frankish empire and more. A frequent enemy of the pagan Vikings, the church was a major arms producer and arms dealer.

FREDRIK CHARPENTIER LJUNGQVIST: A Greek cross before a signature was only used by bishops and abbots, and so the signature tells us that it was either a bishop's name or an abbot's name, or maybe even the name of a monastery.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/ancient/sec...sword.html
(see transcript)

So you're telling me that the finest example of Scandinavian metallurgy was developed by a Christian metalcraft outfit in Germay, thanks for buttressing my case that monasteries created the foundation of European advanced technology.

My position is not based on a LARPy "we waz vikangs" view of history, it is based on basic, real historical observations.

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Bro, the Christians didn't bring any technology with them from that pit in the ground called Jerusalem.

The tech and art was from Rome. Christians simply peddled it to others.

That aside, I've never denied that Christianity had a unifying and domesticating effect on Northern Europe. Probably for the better long term.

Why does it matter though?

Most of the 3rd world are Christians and they're as poor and uncivilized as ever. Clearly Christianity doesn't bring wealth and prosperity alone.
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(10-02-2017 09:23 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Bro, the Christians didn't bring any technology with them from that pit in the ground called Jerusalem.

The tech and art was from Rome. Christians simply peddled it to others.

That aside, I've never denied that Christianity had a unifying and domesticating effect on Northern Europe. Probably for the better long term.

Why does it matter though?

Most of the 3rd world are Christians and they're as poor and uncivilized as ever. Clearly Christianity doesn't bring wealth and prosperity alone.

The Barbarian hordes destroyed Rome, Christian orders picked up the pieces, preserved and build on this heritage, also drawing from Constantinople and Andalusia, essentially saving western civilization.

The third world issue was very well-addressed by E. Michael Jones in the video I've posted above (reposted below). Christian missionaries were very successful in places like Paraguay, where back in the 17th/18th centuries they taught the Guarani natives self-sustaining crafts, work ethic, protecting them from slavery and foreign exploitation. They provided them with western education in their own native language, transcribing it. The Guarani language became a lingua franca through most of South America, which was a huge advance for the region.

Jones documents how the process fell apart in sub-Saharan Africa, where the infrastructure fell apart during decolonization:




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I wouldn't mind splitting the discussion, since it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

911, I see that you more or less agree with the fact that most technology came originally from pagan Greece and Rome. Their weren't spiritually or ethnically that different from other European cultures, even technologically more backwards ones. They had the same gods and similar rites. Most differences were due to geography and environments - keep in mind that Russia was a long time technologically and architecturally backwards, as well. At the same time they had a strong orthodox religion. Things that simply don't coexist according to your logic. Even today you find villages where people live like in the middle ages. Equating that with non european savages is some cheap sophistry.

Also equating jewish Kabbalah with European rites is sophistry of the cheapest kind and has solid grounds in reality. That human sacrifice thing is far from being the way you describe it. You cherrypick your sources to the Ulfberht sword, but fail to mention the scarce sources regarding human sacrifice. Also you equate celtic and germanic cults without mentioning it... what ethnicity are you yourself, by the way? You seem to have a certain bias.

Kepler and Kopernikus were alive in a period that is called Rennaissance for a good reason - it was the Rebirth of antique and thus pagan knowledge. The theory of agriculture through monks is venturesome... to say the least. Yes, monks basically preserved a lot of scripture that would have been lost otherwise. Yes, they made it possible to study ancient literature. Were they the saviours of the European cultures? Maybe. What about the monks that actively burned literature? What about the edited stories to fit their religious agenda? You just cherrypick certain events in history because they fit your desired outcome. Disrespecting your(?) ancestors by calling them savages is exactly what cultural bolshevists and globalists want. They want you to believe that your ancestors lived in mud huts like animals, in opposite to the enlightened, egalitarian and mixed masses of people from the cities. You are activily peddling propaganda of the rootless cosmopolitans you wanted to argue against. The "civilized" cities were cesspools of degeneracy and decadence, and degeneracy and decadence is one of the reasons why Rome fell. Centuries earlier, it was Tacitus' Germania that reminded Romans that they lost their way - at the same time they viewed the Greeks as meek and effeminate. All empires work in a similar way when they reach their end of the cycle. It's the same development we see today in the western world.
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911, the Sunchariot was not made of bronze, but gold.

It's an advanced piece of metallurgy for something that old.

In many ways - and this is generally accepted - the Nordic bronze age was more advanced than the iron age, because the trade in bronze through Europe opened up cultural connections. On the other hand, the iron age meant weapons could be produced by local ore which led to a breakdown in old trading routes.

Christianity re-established the old north/south trading routes after the Roman empire fell. THAT is the biggest achievement. Remember that most Germanics converted only because it was a necessity to trade, not unlike like how you need to bow to the jews today.

Jews are not European pagans, so your comparison with Rothschilds is way off mark. Jews worship Baal and the arch-semittic god of child sacrifice Moloch.

And as you no doubt are aware, it was commonly believed among antrophologists that jews were simply the remains of Phoenicians after Rome desecrated and destroyed their evil cult in Cartago.

In any case, I feel perfectly comfortable to agree to disagree, as long as you Christians don't go all "everyone must bow their head to Judeo-Christianity" which seems to be the main thing now.



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^^^That is beautiful. There is a twitter account European Beauty that highlights a lot of this. I cannot comprehend how people listening to this would prefer the call of a muezzin.


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The media is keeping this event in the headlines. The courts issued a warrant against Deandre Harris for felony unlawful wounding. He is the dindunuffin that the media claimed was "lynched" by "nazis" while walking to astronaut school during the riots. The picture of is bleeding head was sent far and wide with claims he was beat for no apparent reason and was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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Turns out the guy that he beat into the ground came forward. Here is the WP article trying to claim the court is trying to protect nazis or some shit.


Here is a good video that shows incident in question.





It is ironic how whenever the left tries to hold up some beacon of "injustice" it turns to ash in their hands. Whether its this guy or any BLM shooting ever covered they sure can pick the losers.

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What's the deal with guys right and left of Spencer wearing the 80's power pad female business jackets?

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http://www.nbc29.com/story/36694324/prel...10-26-2017

Preliminary Report Blames Charlottesville for Civil Unrest from Unite the Right Rally


Sad that the only place I saw this reported from was Chateau Heartiste linking to the Daily Stormer.

Quote:RICHMOND, Va. (WVIR) -
A preliminary action report is blaming Charlottesville for the civil unrest that occurred in the city on August 12.

The preliminary report [pdf] was presented to the Governor’s Civil Unrest Task Force in Richmond Thursday, October 26. The task force is comprised of first responders from around Virginia, elected officials, but no one from Charlottesville.

According to the report, city leaders did not take recommendations ahead of white activist Jason Kessler’s Unite the Right rally. Additionally, the report said Charlottesville had an inadequate permit process. The city was taken to court after it tried to make changes to Kessler's permit just a few days before the rally.

International Chiefs of Police Director Jim W. Baker says we are seeing a new era of protests that involve weapons, shields and a desire to cause harm. He said Charlottesville leaders knew this before protesters and counterprotesters clashed in and around Emancipation Park. Baker said the park was too small, noting that authorities tried to have it moved to McIntire Park, and the city was warned about extreme violence, including a potential car attack. Police have charged James Alex Fields with second-degree murder, hit-and-run, and multiple counts of malicious wounding after he apparently drove into a crowd in the area of 4th Street.

The city absolutely deserves the blame, the videos clearly show the UTR people being pushed into the antifa. Basically promoting lawlessness and conflict, there is no other way to spin it.

Boston had a similar rally (free speech rally) with tons of antifa showed up, and the mayor made sure to keep the two groups separated with the cops. Result? Zero casualties other than a few minor scuffles.

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