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Red Pill Moments?
I don't know if I should post this here or other category of topic, but I want to see if anyone can spill some of their biggest red pill moments.
After reading Sam M's story on "Is she cheating?" thread, I am pretty sure everybody here has some story to tell...
I think many members here would benefit tremendously from hearing these stories to kill rest of my betaness and simpness.

I will start.
This was 2 years ago when my lay count was close to zero and I was into game, but was like one year in, I just got over approach anxiety and stuff. I am in school and doing great in class, busy AF, not gaming, not approaching, not really thinking about girls.

I joined this consulting organization and was extremely busy with school.
I got close to this one chick from the organization, I didn’t really think of anything, but now I realized that I have missed tons of signs from her and she has interested in me. She would ask for my pen because she forgot to bring one, she sat next to me, she would ask how my weekend was, etc…trying to get my attention.

This girl was hot, but I didn't really think of anything. This girl I would rate her 7.5/10 or 8/10 asks me out on a classical concert date, we go out and I don't make any moves during the date, which I didn't even know that it was a date, I thought she was just trying to hang out with me.
(Yeah, dumb AF.)

Then she texts me one night at like 1AM and that she has something to tell me.
Lol. Let’s call her J.

I knew what was up at this point FINALLY. (yeah, pretty dumb, there were a lot of signs like her asking me out, she asking for my help on various occasions, she was dressed to kill whenever she hang out with me, touch me, etc.)
So I show up to her dorm, there is like a sofa and lounge in the hallway.
She directly manifests her interests towards me. J told me, “Hey. Ben. I really like you a lot.”
I am quite surprised, but was kinda expected, we fuck and we start dating very soon, like couple dates later. (Yeap. Big mistake, but I was a naive, innocent blue pilled guy.)

I mean, she was involved with school, international Chinese student with 3.7+ GPA with Accounting and Finance double major and looks are 7.5+, what can go wrong? I thought that I would be dumb AF if I didn't date her.

Turns out, she wasn't really having it with me since I barely text her and my game isn't really tight. I just ignored 100% of her shit-tests and I didn't even know there were shit-tests since I was TOO BUSY with school. When you are on your purpose, busting your ass because you go to a top business school in the nation, you LITERALLY don’t give a fuck about a hot chick cuz you know you can get another one after you graduate and get a sick job that pays you $$$.
None of them really hit me at all, I now realize that she has shit-tested me like every hour for the next month.

She finally breaks up with me, which I just ignore also.
My replies were, "Sorry to hear that, I wish you the best"
Then she kinda realized that IDGAF and tries to confirm the situation.
I was too busy for dramas. I could sense that she wanted the “drama.”
J told me, "Yeah. It's so sad."
I then text her, "Take care."
Then she texts, "I am sorry that this happened."
I ten text her. Yeah, bye."
Then she again says, "You know I think she shouldn't have happened." or anything along those lines next few days on multiple occasions, which doesn’t fucking makes sense and I thought was irrelevant. Yeah, my responses were like 3~7 hours later too.
I wasn't gaming her at all, I was just being myself and acting how I feel...

I finally realized that she is just shit-testing me again by "fake breaking up.", I guess she thought that I was those beta Asians who will cry and start to pay attention to her when she does this…but I felt like, if she was unsatisfied with her relationship she can talk with me and try to work on it like adults…and thought that by testing a guy, I felt super disrespected.
She wasn’t respecting me, my time and my minimum attention towards her.
My thinking process was that if she really loved me and wanted me to become successful, then she will reduce her desire of attention from me and also work on herself too.
I know it sounds cliché, but we have talked about how we were both business majors at top school and we can become power couples like Bill Gates & Melinda Gates, Jay –Z & Beyonce…

One day (2 weeks after the breakup), I see her in public (a study room) and try to talk to her for the last time.
I am like, "Hey, what's up? Let's just talk for a little bit. Just 5 minutes, then I need to go study. I don't think we ended it on a good note."
She then says, "Don't touch me." with a super bitchy tonality. Super surprising, never seen her like this. I persist and it was a no go.
So then I am about to step outside, she then steps outside and makes a phone call. Now I am fucking intrigued. Who the fuck is she calling?
They are talking in Chinese together and I don't understand a thing.

Is it her ex-boyfriend...? She told me that they broke up 1 year ago.

She then packs her shit. A guy comes to the study room.
He just ignores me, but he is way skinnier than me and shorter than me with glasses and fucked up skin on his face, looks like a typical Asian nerd. I am almost 6 feet and weigh almost 200 pounds, so I am not intimidated by him at all, I just found this situation funny at that time.
I am like, “What the fuck? She can just talk to me and we can solve this issues, I was about to leave, she doesn’t need to bring her ex-boyfriend…Lol.” (I guess it was one of those things that girls do when they try to make you jealous or something. Haha)
They step out together from the room, I try to ask his name, "Hey. I am B, what's your name? Who are you?" He ignores me and just escorts her out. They are walking out together. Lol.

At this point, I am like, “What the F is going on? Are they together now? Then why didn’t she tell me about this? It would have been okay if she just told me that she wanted to get back with her ex-boyfriend. I want to know the ‘truth’.” (I am blunt motherfucker and a truth seeker.)
My mind is spinning and I realized that it’s now or never. If they walk out from me, this is probably my last time seeing J and she is going to block me on every social media and I will not get the answer. For the sake of getting more reference experiences and improving my ‘game”, I am going to stop them and ask them.

Then I follow them for like 30 seconds or so? To the outside of the building, to the other street.
I tap the guy’s shoulder once again and ask him. “Hey, who are you? Seriously?” as I step infront of them and block their way.
Then he says, “I am her ex-boyfriend and her current boyfriend. J told me everything what happened between you too. We got back after you broke up with her.”
He can’t even look me in the eyes, he is shaking his hands, he is fidgeting, he is scared, I can tell.
Me: “The fuck are you talking about? She broke up with me and I let her.”
Him: …. (doesn’t say anything. It seems like he doesn’t really give a F at this point and been chasing J for the past couple months…)
Me: (What a beta motherfucker I thought to myself…. Does he really think that after all this chaos and ruckus he can be with her? Doesn’t he know better that she is also using him? Doesn’t he know that if he takes her back now, he is also not respecting himself?, Wait, he just doesn’t give a fuck huh...I guess he just wants her back...)

I am confused AF. “What? You guys are together?” (I am confused at this point. At this point I can’t really trust her and everything that she said to this ex-boyfriend/current boyfriend lol the stories can be manipulated and changed so that she looks like an angel. I am starting to realize that she is playing around both of us. This girl, J is just using him as an emotional tampon and they will not be together after this.)
Then, I dip. I say “fuck this.” It was too much for me at that time. It crashed my reality and everything made sense.

However, I didn’t get it. Why would a girl just breakup with me and not try to “fix the relationship?” after she asked me out, told me she likes me and asked me out to become her bf?
Why would she lie to me that she broke up with her boyfriend 1 year ago when it has been 3 months? Nothing made sense at the point. (Everything makes sense now and I realize that she is just an emotional bitch.)
Last thing I heard from them couple months after this story was that they are not together anymore and she has fallen into depression and everybody in the consulting organization found out what happened and she was super insecure about it.

She did say that she was seeing some psychologists when she was my gf temporarily…
At least I won and got the lay.

Any thoughts on my story or sharing your own would really be appreciated.

"Chase a check, never chase a bitch."
- Future

"Don't let yourself get attached to anything you are not willing to walk out on in 30 seconds flat if you feel the heat around the corner."
- Heat

"That's the difference between you and me. You wanna lose small, I wanna win big."
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2017 06:25 AM by bgbusiness.)
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RE: Red Pill Moments?
I'm sure this fable has been used many times to describe female nature, but it's worth repeating:

Quote:The Scorpion and the Frog

A scorpion and a frog meet on the bank of a stream and the
scorpion asks the frog to carry him across on its back. The
frog asks, "How do I know you won't sting me?" The scorpion
says, "Because if I do, I will die too."

The frog is satisfied, and they set out, but in midstream,
the scorpion stings the frog. The frog feels the onset of
paralysis and starts to sink, knowing they both will drown,
but has just enough time to gasp "Why?"

Replies the scorpion: "Its my nature..."

This story is profound because the scorpion and the frog are seemingly having an unusually honest discussion. There seems to be no game-playing going on and they're broaching the topic of who they are and what their motivations are head on.

That is the disconnect you can get into when you try to develop true intimacy with women. They can simultaneously confide in you and even admit to some dirty red-pill truths, how much they self-sabotage relationships and what not, and then go ahead and self-sabotage her relationship...with YOU! She will not limit the use of her snares to the unaware.

The mistake on the frog's part is thinking that he can sort of talk the scorpion out of the behavior by identifying it and putting it on the table, similar to what a therapist might do. And I've tried to do that sort of thing with women and failed. It's been a self-styled purple-pill approach before there was a term for it.

With any addictive or patterned beahvior, identifying it is not enough to stop it. A chronic smoker or drinker can break through denial, admit they have a problem, and yet still continue. It's just the way it works.

You can never let your guard down and just keep honing your bullshit meter.
(This post was last modified: 10-22-2017 08:53 AM by questor70.)
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RE: Red Pill Moments?

"Once you've gotten the lay you have won."- Mufasa

"You Miss 100% of the shots you don't take"- Wayne Gretzky
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RE: Red Pill Moments?
The biggest combined red pill and red flag moment:

"I sold all stocks and went all cash months ago, just in case." - Kurt Eichenwald, 8 Nov 2016
World Stocks Have Underperformed The US By The Most Since The Financial Crisis - 1 Sep 2018
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