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A refined travel guide for Sydney.
Sydney Australia: I've seen a few Sydney guides, but for the most part they're a macro view of the city. When it comes to travelling, I know that time is an issue and with the geographical size of Sydney, you can get lost - So I've decided to write up a refined guide which trims the fat, and shows the best bang for your buck suburbs to stay in terms of nightlife, food and pussy.

I’ll get the obvious out of the way. Most of ya’ll think Sydney sucks right? I get it. It’s expensive, the women can have massive bitch shields, the media is pc central but despite this, I wouldn’t wanna live anywhere else. It’s been home all my life and I love it here. It doesn’t hurt that I know the place inside out, so I’ve made it work for me. With that said, this thread is for all those guys who visit Australia. Maybe you want to see the beaches. Maybe you want to see the outback. Well whatever your reason, you’ll undoubtedly stop in Sydney, and when you do, have a read of this because time and time again visitors come to Sydney, try to ‘pick-up’ and fail miserably. I’ll give you a big hint as to why: People head to the clubs, but the club scene is dead. In most cases, the big city nightclubs will just lead to an empty bank account and a night of Pornhub, but don’t worry. I’ll point ya'll in the right direction.

So first things first. You just bit the bullet and said ‘fuck it’, I’m going to Australia. Well that means you’re gonna need accommodation, and the best accommodation is your own place. If you have the cash, AirBnB is your best option, closely followed by Flatmate finder [Add a dot com dot au for the website].

From here, you’ll need to be smart with locations, and trust me when I say this: Your own apartment and a good location is 90% of the battle. Especially in Sydney which is spread out for miles. Now I’ve taken a screen shot of Sydney and numbered the two best bang for your buck areas to stay below:

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As a preface, Sydney game operates a lot like L.A, you should absolutely play the odds, and prioritise the girls in closest proximity to your place. As a traveller, this is an easy pre-qualifier. Now this isn’t to say you can’t swoop girls who live outside your suburb, but it keep in mind it does add a potential cock block later on in the night when she starts thinking about taxi fares.

So, the locations I have selected are IMO, the best places in Sydney to stay as a traveller. Why? Two reasons. 1.) They are densely populated with local pubs*. 2.) Social circle is far less of a factor. This means you’ll have an easier time meeting people and an easier time getting them back to your place “for a drink”.

Local pubs*: Why is this important? Because as stated, club game in Sydney is largely dead. We have lockout laws in the city, logistics problems regarding ‘taking a girl home’ [$50 cab fare anyone?] and the usual: Women go to clubs for free drinks. As a ‘pick-up’ location it started to die in the mid 2000s. Straight up, if you come to Sydney planning on hitting the clubs in the city, you’re on a fast track for failure. Girls at local pubs however, have a far lower bitch shield, are far easier to approach, and likely live within walking distance of your pad. Just keep in mind that the best nights to go out are Thursday, Fri and Sat – But I’ll throw out some options for the other days too. Don’t worry.

Now, onto the specific location [And just FYI, I have no affiliation to any restaurant, bar or establishment that I mention]:

Location #1:

Bondi Beach. Why Bondi? It’s the perfect local hub. The beach. The tourists, and the fact that for the most part, it’s still Australia. You won’t feel like you’ve stepped into Mosul like you do out west.

So you just touched down in Sydney. You got to your accommodation. You’ve already swiped the shit out of every girl on tinder before having a quick nap. Now you’re probably hungry right? Go here. Milky Lane Bondi. A quick google search will bring it up. It’s the single best joint in Bondi [Although the deep fried Mars Bar @ Bondi Surf Seafood’s is a must].

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Now you’ll probably note straight away that this food is unhealthy as fuck, so hot tip: Anytime Fitness, Fitness First, Snap and Plus fitness all offer free three-day gym trials. Say you’re new to Sydney, looking for a gym and boom: Three free days].

Now as far as other bars are concerned here are my recommendations:

The Beach Road Hotel. One of the biggest pubs in Bondi, The Beach Road Hotel has high foot traffic, a chill vibe and a decent amount of ‘beach babes’ and foreign travellers. Now if you’re talking to a girl and feel like you aren’t getting the bang that night, throw this out there: “You should come over for pre-drinks tomorrow”. In Australia, pre-drinks are universal. It’s where we buy a bunch of drinks from the bottle shop and get tipsy before heading to the bar. It saves a tonne of money, plus we’re alcoholics. As far as drinks are concerned, I always stock my fridge with some VB [A beer] for the guys and vodka, plus a soft drink and diet soft drink mixer for the girls. The other thing I’ll throw out there [And ya’ll probably know this already], but make sure you have the music banging, as well as a couple of fun drinking games ready to go – It’s fun, and fun gets the bang].

The Bucket List: This is great on a Saturday and Sunday. Especially from midday. In Australia we love something called a ‘Sunday Session’. As alcoholics, we quickly realised you can’t drink Sunday night and back up for work Monday morning so how do we solve this? We start drinking at midday and get home by about 8pm. Beautiful. For guys looking to pull, what better than a relaxed Sunday vibe, casually chatting to a girl. The bitch shield is just about invisible.

Bondi Bowling Club: In Australia, the worlds most boring sport has turned into a clever little way to eat, drink and socialise. Lawn bowls is basically the grass version of curling minus the broomstick. As a tourist, you have a foolproof way to meet friends and get pussy. How? Simple. You head to the bowling club on a Fri, Sat or Sun, walk up to a group of girls and say something like this: “Is this like ten pin bowling or what?”. The girls, desperate for a chance to teach you something will run through the intricacies of lawn balls and after two of the most boring minutes of your life are over, you introduce yourself and play.

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El Topo Basement: Technically this is in Bondi Junction which will be a fifteen-minute walk from your Bondi Beach pad, but it’s definitely worth a visit. Why? Mamacita’s. Mamacita’s everywhere [Check El Topo Basement Google images. You’ll see what I mean]. Every Brazilian and babe within a five-mile radius comes to this joint. It’s open late. 99% of the girls live local, and they’re cute. Real cute. If you want to pick-up here your best options are dancing or smoking. If you don’t smoke like me, you can chill out in the smoking area to ‘get some air’ [I get the irony but it’s an opener with follow up potential].

The Cock ‘N’ Bull: Within a stones throw of El Topo; I’d be remiss if I didn’t mention this place. The Cock ‘N’ Bull is the premier Irish pub in Sydney. Almost everyone will be British or Irish. The amount of fucks given are almost 0. Now, I’m just gonna come out and say it. It’s really hard not to get laid here. The only problem? It’s about 80% trolls, but as they say: Even lizards gotta eat. Keep this place in mind if you strike out.

The Golden Sheaf: This is in the wealthy suburb of Double Bay just by the harbor and a five-ten minute Uber from Bondi. Everything is a little bit nicer here. The girls are the silk panty type. It doubles as both a pub and a nightclub, and you’ll find most girls live in and around the area. Logistics won’t be a problem.

Coogee: Now this suburb is four beaches down from Bondi or a ten minute Uber. It’s probably the no.1 backpacker spot for the British. Personally, I wouldn’t venture here just to try one bar, but I would go for the day:

Spend the afternoon at the beach. Have a steak lunch at the Coogee Bay Hotel or Ocean’s Dining and Drinks, then at night head down to the Coogee Pavilion. There’s one big ‘but’ however. Many of the girls at the Coogee Pavilion are Instagram ho’s who would fly to Dubai and have an Arab sheik shit on their chest, so smoke and mirrors game is big. Focus on whatever it is that makes you high value. For example, if you’re an accountant, just say you’re in finance and leave it at that. In other words, hint at status but never elaborate. That will work well here.

That said:

You don’t need to spend money or go to a bar to pick up. Far from it. You’re at Bondi Beach! If you ask me though, I say the best bang for your buck beach is Bronte [The second beach down from Bondi].

Bronte is smaller, picturesque and full of hot girls. In fact, I would say hot girls are the majority here. Slim, tanned [And generally wealthy – Meaning they’re probably the type of girl to get their asshole bleached lol]. Now, a lot of you guys may not know beach etiquette but it’s important. Especially when you understand that the girls [And guys] have grown up with these rules, so the moment you break one, you’ll trigger a bitch shield immediately. So with that in mind:

Don’t stand over a girl to initiate a conversation while she’s tanning. Don’t put your towel down next to a girl if there’s plenty of open space. And don’t get caught staring at the titties [Trust me, they’re everywhere].

Now with that said, it’s not hard to initiate conversation. You can do it in the water. You can set up a volleyball net and ask girls to join. You can walk along the grass to approach and finally, your best option: Having a BBQ. Buy some steak, buy a six pack invite girls over for a drink.

From mid afternoon to sunset [Mainly Sat], you’ll see groups starting to have mini parties. Groups from Brazil, groups from Poland, groups from the UK. If you head down around this time, you can easily make friends. Most people in the groups are just friends of friends anyway.

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Oh and check out the Bronte rock pool at night. It’s free, well lit, and very cool. You can even bring a date if she’s down. Alternatively, you can come here bright and early. Jog over from Bondi, sweat out the alcohol and go for a dip. It’s a perfect hangover cure. Afterwards you can hit up one of the local café’s. Bronte Bello is my favourite. They have cute Brazilian waitresses and buckwheat pancakes. If you’re lucky you can probably get the digits of a sexy little booty babe.

On the topic of dates, if you do happen to snag one, I would use this as an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone. Obviously, there’s the basic tourist hot spots to check out, so I won’t go into those and at night, you probably can’t beat the old tapas/wine bar combo – But what I'll tell you, are some day-time options that won’t cost you a cent.

First and foremost: Coastal walks. Now if you’re a lazy cunt who doesn’t like exercise, you can skip this part lol. Based in the Eastern Suburbs of Sydney, you’ve got two main options. The Bondi to Coogee Coastal walk:

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Or the Rose Bay to Watson’s Bay coastal walk. The former is a picturesque walk across the cliff tops whilst the latter hikes through the bushland, past the harbor.

So how would I do it? First things first, Sunday is your money day. Most girls do some form of exercise on a Sunday morning, as do I. Burns a lot of calories, and keeps my fat low on a bulk. That said, I figure, why not add a girl to the mix. So I usually spam all my Tinder matches [And honestly, I use Tinder as an IDGAF app], with the line: “I’d love to get to know you better – You wanna do a coastal walk tomorrow?”. I might get maybe 10% say yes. Then I just select the pick of the litter and go from there. [Oh and hot tip, during the walk you’ll pass a little fish store called ‘Doyle’s’ at Watson’s Bay. It has the best Fish and Chips in Sydney].

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Another cool option for a date is Gordon’s Bay. Most tourists don’t know about this place but you’ll pass it on the Bondi to Coogee coastal walk. It’s a fantastic snorkelling spot where you can see Blue Groper fish, small sharks and a range of other fish.

Location #2:

In and around Surry Hills. Formerly a run down, rent controlled inner city neighbourhood in the 90’s, Surry Hills has become a trendy cosmopolitan hub [It’s also full of gays, but I’ll steer you clear of them]. The primary reason I’ve put Surry Hills as the second hub is due to it’s proximity to multiple bars, the city, and the awesome food.

So you just touched down in Sydney. You had a nap in your Surry Hills pad and you want to eat. Where to go? I can’t limit this to one option so I’m just gonna throw out a laundry list here [And to find them, a simple search of the name online followed by Surry Hills should suffice]:

Queenies: A Jamaican reggae restaurant built on top of a pub. You can’t go wrong with anything, but if you like spice, the Jerk Chicken is next level. For dessert there is only one option worth eating. The banoffee pie. It’s on par with pussy. Trust me.

Johnny Wong’s Dumpling Bar: Go on Wednesday. They do $1 dumplings. Some of the best dumpling’s in Sydney.

Bar Ume Surry Hills: Bar Ume to me is like White Castle to Harold and Kumar. Get me high and I’ll fuck Rosie O’Donnell just for a sniff of the Fish Katsu Burger. The only problem, you’ll be channelling Vince Vega when you see the price. “Fifteen dollars for a burger? It ain’t got not crack in it or nothin’?”. No. It does not have crack, but it's just as good.

Goro’s: Japanese food and drinks. They also have Karaoke, pool tables and arcade machines. Monday is your best bet with $1 gyoza.

The Dove and Olive: On Wednesday’s they do a $10 steak. When you travel there’s a tendency to eat shit, but you can’t go wrong with steak.

From here, where do you go to pick up girls? Look, in Surry Hills your options are pretty massive but I know travellers don’t normally have the luxury of time, so once again, here’s the best bang for your buck.

The Beresford Hotel: This multi-story story bar/nightclub is the largest in the area. Ground level houses an indoor and outdoor bar whilst upstairs is a large bar, dance floor and lounge area. Most girls head upstairs around midnight. Unlike Bondi, you’ll need a button shirt for this place.

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The Standard: The Standard is a cool little bar which has a four lane bowling alley inside. It’s a no brainer for breaking the ice and meeting new people.

Trill: A personal favourite of mine if you like Hip Hop music. Expect to see a higher proportion of Asian and black girls here. When you’re gaming, up your aggression levels a little. These girls listen to lyrics like:

“Bitches ain’t shit but hoes and tricks/ Lick on these nuts and suck the dick” – You can be a little more forward with your intentions. It’ll work more often than not.

World Bar and The Kings Cross Hotel: Located in King’s Cross, both these bars are close enough that you shouldn’t be cock blocked by location.

World Bar generally has a line, but should be your primary option if you head to King’s Cross. It has multiple dance floors and a smoking area. The King Cross Hotel is multiple levels with multiple music options. Pick your favourite and go to work. Once upon a time King’s Cross was an almost guaranteed bang, but with lockout laws the vibe has changed. I wouldn't prioritise it.

The CBD: Now before I tell ya’ll your best options, believe me when I say, the CBD is a trap if you don’t know what you’re doing, so with that in mind, here’s what I would do.

1.) Don’t make pussy the priority otherwise you’re setting yourself up for failure. Instead, focus on having a good time. Keep in mind lockout laws will be in effect, so you won’t be getting into bars after 1am. My solution? Start early.

If you’re here with friends, buy a six pack and head to the botanic gardens. You’ll have an awesome view of the harbor, a chill environment for day game and a little sun while you share some drinks and conversation.

If that doesn’t sound like your jam, check out Chinatown for some Yum Cha. Golden Unicorn is a reliable option [Although I would rank the Sydney Fish Market’s Yum Cha as the best in Sydney – The salt and pepper prawns are like heroin].

From here, I would pick out a place with a view to share a few drinks through to sunset. The Shelbourne Hotel is a good option. It has high foot traffic, and a lot of women looking to let their hair down after work, but the real beauty of this joint is a little place called Scary Canary up the road [But more on that in a moment].

My wild card for pre-drinks however is The Concourse Bar situated inside Wynyard Train Station. I used to come here with work mates during lunch. They have $5 beer, pool tables and topless waitresses. I figure, I could pre-drink at a normal bar, or I could pre-drink with bouncing titties walking round the room. They’re also friendly. I even managed to snag a number once. That said, ya’ll might be a little classier than me.

Now onto Scary Canary. First thing’s first. It’s the easiest bang in the CBD. The joint is 50% back packers, 50% locals. Best days are ‘Wet Wednesday’ where they pull out the foam machine and ‘Make Out Monday’. Speaks for itself right?

From here, as stated previously, you could check out Scary Canary but if you’re not too keen on backpackers, or you want something a little nicer, walk down to Darling Harbor. Your two best options are Cargo Bar and The Loft. Both bars are more or less the same deal. A cocktail lounge/dance floor with a view of the harbor. A word to the wise: Be very careful about the location of girls you talk to. The bars at Darling Harbor get a sizeable portion of their demographic from North of the Bridge. So pre-qualify.

Now with all that in mind, if I can give you one big piece of advice. Don’t go to a nightclub called ‘The Ivy”. No matter what anyone says, you’re wasting your time. You’ll pay a huge cover charge. You’ll wait in a long queue and for what? Bad music and an empty bank account.

With that said, if you have your heart set on shit music and a cover charge, head over to ‘The Star’ Casino. Why? Well their main nightclub, ‘Marquee’ is much like the Ivy, but you’ve also got gambling which makes everything more fun right? The other reason is a little bar called Rock Lily. Friday, Sat and Sun they have live music, usually performing Rock Songs from the 80’s, and while this isn’t my jam, the dolled up MILF’s looking for D are. So before you head upstairs to Marquee, pay Rock Lily a visit. And just a heads up, be a little more forward with the sexual innuendo. The MILF’s here love it.

What about day game? Surry Hills isn’t great but a short walk/bus to circular quay and you’ve found one of the best places in Sydney for day game. Darling Harbor likewise. If you do manage to pull and want a sure fire way to impress – here’s a cool tip to kick off your date: Blu Bar 36 at The Shangri-La Hotel. You’re basically buying an amazing sky rise view of the harbor for the price of a $10 drink.

Your other option is to kill two birds with one stone. A generic sightseeing choice, combined with a date. My two best recommendations are: Taronga Zoo. [Making sure you get a selfie with the giraffes for Tinder. Trust me, it's gold].

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Or my go to date which is as follows: I meet the girl at Circular Quay. Take the ferry to Manly wharf. Have some butterscotch schnapps at the Bavarian Bier Café [Directly outside the Wharf] before going on the Quarantine Station Ghost tour. This is historically where people were quarantined before entering Australia. Many died and are said to ‘haunt’ the grounds. It’s an easy way to escalate, and the Ferry, drinks and ghost tour are like three dates in one [And ya’ll know what happens on the third date]. With that said, the biggest reason I bring it up is because I enjoy it.

Another go to, just like with Bondi is the Manly coastal walk. This walk might just be the very best in Sydney combining the beach, the harbor and some incredible views. It’s also 10 kilometres so it can take a while. Now if your walk’s on a Saturday, at some point during the walk you’ll likely hear music pumping and you’ll wonder? WTF is that? Well this walk passes numerous ‘secret’ beaches on the harbor, and anchored just off the beach are numerous boats. What are they doing? Partying of course.

Now this is probably only feasible for guys coming as a crew, but I’ll put it out there just in case. For around $1500 you can get a decent party boat, packing around 20 people, to cruise round the harbor, docking at secret beaches for around 5 hours. With about ten guys you'll pay $150 each. Just add girls and you'll feel like a rockstar for a day.

The other option if you don't have a crew is the Island. It’s a ‘beach club’ floating in the middle of the harbor. The crowd is much like you would expect at the previously mentioned ‘Coogee Pavilion’. The obvious problem here is that you’re on an island so the bang is difficult. With that said, it’s a cool experience, and if you have a spare 45 bucks, it’s a great pre-drinking option.

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Other points of interest:

I haven’t touched on every Sydney suburb because a.) Sydney is huge and b.) Most visitors don’t have months to go everywhere. In anycase, what I have mentioned is covers most of your bases. If I was going to mentioned two more locations for food, women and nightlife however, they would be Manly and Newtown.

Manly operates much like Bondi. The big difference being that it’s North of the Bridge and slightly more ‘social circle’ orientated due to it’s isolated location. If you do venture across – The best joint is Hotel Steyne. You need standing room to pick-up and the big negatives with the popular alternatives in The Manly Wharf Hotel and Hugo’s is that floorspace sucks. Hotel Steyne however, has it in spades.

My close second would be Daniel San Beachside Dojo. It’s got a funky vibe, with the girls being a slightly less ‘basic’ version of what you’ll find at the ‘Coogee Pavilion’. Oh and the KFC [Korean Fried Chicken] is dope AF.

My third pick would be Papi Chulo, but mainly for the food. I would recommend it as a place to start the night rather than a place to stay. Regarding the menu, you can discard 90% of the options and just focus on the BBQ. Their smokehouse makes a mean meat platter.

Newtown:

Hipster central, aka fag heaven. This place isn't a must visit, but if you've seen all of the above and want a change of scenery, I'll point you in the right direction.

So first off, what's the upside of coming here? No lockout laws, good food and a big party hub for the university students who attend Sydney University a few blocks over. [Speaking of University, their main party location is ‘Manning Bar’. It’s worth checking their website to see what’s on – You can also check out ‘The Roundhouse’ on Facebook. This is the main party organiser for the University of NSW. The girls are far worse than Sydney University, but every now and then they’ll throw a good party. Both good options if you're comfortable gaming a room full of 20yr olds].

Now before I detail the bars, there are some places I would advise against. No.1) Kelly’s on King. It’s an Irish bar with a garbage crowd. Mostly fatty fat fats and cigarette smoke. It also smells.

Holey Moley. This is an 18-hole mini golf bar. While the concept is cool, the space is cramped, the air gets thick, and the stench of deep fried foods makes you nauseous. If you meet a girl, there’s a good chance she’ll ask you to check it out. Try and avoid it.

Unlike the other locations, Newtown can be hit and miss depending on the crowd, so you might have to bar hop depending on the vibe. Your best bets are as follows: The Marlborough Hotel, The Bank Hotel and Zanzibar, all located in close proximity on King Street, all ordered in terms of best odds to get the bang. Now, each of these places are a variation of the same. You won’t need to dress up. A simple t-shirt and jeans will suffice.

That about wraps it up. From my experience, many guys come here with a Vegas, New York or London mentality. They head out to the big city nightclubs, get shut down, and ultimately write off Sydney as an overpriced city with stuck up girls before heading off, maybe a little bitter for the experience. While I understand the thought process, I think it’s worth pointing out that a big reason for the failure, is a misunderstanding of how the city works. The club scene is largely dead and the logistics make things tough.

You just have to put yourself in the mind of a girl to begin to understand why club game in this city is a cruel mistress. They put on their make-up for an hour. They take a long cab ride to the city. They line up for 20+ minutes. They enter a crowded club with loud music. Get hit on a dozen times before you've made your opener, which, if successful has a very strong chance of going nowhere purely due to the fact that a long cab ride is ticking time bomb. It's doomed from the get go.

Contrast this with the local scene. Girls put on some natural make up. Meet some friends in a relaxed environment and either walk, or take a 5 minute cab to the bar. Guys hardly approach. They know they can walk home if need be. And the result is a bitch shield 10x lower. So when you come to Sydney, keep location in mind, understand that the club scene is a trap and you’ll find this place is no harder to pick-up than most places round the world, and as a guy who’s done considerable travel, that’s the honest truth. Peace.
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RE: A refined travel guide for Sydney.
As a person who is from Sydney I can say that although this datasheet is decent there are a few important exaggerations and omissions.

Firstly in regards to the cock n' bull pub yep its a shit-hole seedy place full of mediocre Irish and British backpackers however its definitely not easy to get laid there. I have been there 3 or 4 times and never had any luck. On weekend nights the place will often have very loud music (hard to talk) and also the Irish and British that come here tend to come in big mixed groups. Very few actual 2 or 3 sets to approach here even when its busy (and yes girls here still have bitch shields!)

The next exaggeration is that about bitch shields in the bar scene being 1/10 of that in the club scene. Sure, the club scene here is pointless and disastrous in fact and bars can be a little better (not enough to matter), but being 30% better than disastrous is still pretty bad if you ask me. In Sydney if you do not have looks in the top 10% approaching is basically a waste of time. Sure if you are lucky you might get laid from spam approaching but the ROI will be too low and it will not be worth it (unless you are very good looking).

Other than the above points the data sheet is pretty on point about logistics and places of interest in Sydney.

As a guy who has done considerable travel and who was born and raised in Sydney, Sydney is one of the hardest places in the world to pick up, don't let the O.P. make you think otherwise. Do not underestimate how hard it is here!
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RE: A refined travel guide for Sydney.
I really want to visit Australia but whenever I check flights, it shows that it's roughly around 22 hours. That's where I backpedal. I go crazy with 10 hour flight to New York, I don't know what I would do if I have to take a flight for 22 hours.

By the way, how are Italian men perceived in Sydney? Do we have a positive vibe among Australian girls or bad one?
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(10-24-2017 07:16 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  The next exaggeration is that about bitch shields in the bar scene being 1/10 of that in the club scene. Sure, the club scene here is pointless and disastrous in fact and bars can be a little better (not enough to matter), but being 30% better than disastrous is still pretty bad if you ask me. In Sydney if you do not have looks in the top 10% approaching is basically a waste of time. Sure if you are lucky you might get laid from spam approaching but the ROI will be too low and it will not be worth it (unless you are very good looking).

Other than the above points the data sheet is pretty on point about logistics and places of interest in Sydney.

As a guy who has done considerable travel and who was born and raised in Sydney, Sydney is one of the hardest places in the world to pick up, don't let the O.P. make you think otherwise. Do not underestimate how hard it is here!

Gotta disagree bud. Local bars are considerably easier to pick-up in Sydney than clubs. Not sure I could put a percentage on it, but it's night and day.

Regarding how hard it is, I hear this a lot, and I agree with OP. It's overplayed. I lived in Poland, a country praised on here for a number of years, and I would say objectively, it's harder to get laid than Australia (Which is a good thing btw).

Polish women are on average, more pleasant, have lower bitch shields, and are far more feminine but after you've started a conversation, getting the bang is no easier. In fact I would say it's harder. This is what you want in a woman, because sex should be hard.

In contrast Sydney is the opposite. Women might have higher bitch shields but it lasts about one to two shit tests and that's it. Once you past those, they'll happily put out on the same night far more than women from marriage material countries.

I agree with OP. I do think people do tend to get bitter. No disrespect, but with a name like 'Australia sucks' it kind of points towards that being the case.

There was a time where I thought Australia sucked too. In fact, I actually used to tell people, don't come because it's impossible to get laid but I was wrong. Over time you do figure this place out, and once you do, you realise it's actually one of the easier places in the world to get laid.
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(10-24-2017 07:16 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  As a person who is from Sydney I can say that although this datasheet is decent there are a few important exaggerations and omissions.

Firstly in regards to the cock n' bull pub yep its a shit-hole seedy place full of mediocre Irish and British backpackers however its definitely not easy to get laid there. I have been there 3 or 4 times and never had any luck.

You need to lower your standards mate. Fat girls need lovin' too. Banana
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(10-24-2017 07:34 AM)Rossi Wrote:  I really want to visit Australia but whenever I check flights, it shows that it's roughly around 22 hours. That's where I backpedal. I go crazy with 10 hour flight to New York, I don't know what I would do if I have to take a flight for 22 hours.

By the way, how are Italian men perceived in Sydney? Do we have a positive vibe among Australian girls or bad one?

Girls love Italian guys. French guys. Anyone with an accent. They've grown up on a diet of Hollywood movies with the 'European' man who sweeps them off their feet.

The problem though, is that all the Italian guys I've met who come here are too timid. I think the best way to put it is this: You know how girls throw out a bunch of shit tests just before you take them to bed? Well Australian girls throw out all their shit tests the moment you talk to them. After that, there's far less resistance than girls from other countries. My best advice is to weather the early storm, and make sure the approach is on point.
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(10-24-2017 07:16 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  As a guy who has done considerable travel and who was born and raised in Sydney, Sydney is one of the hardest places in the world to pick up, don't let the O.P. make you think otherwise. Do not underestimate how hard it is here!

lol....
You and your negative bullshit.

Sydney is a beautiful city with loads of quality women from all over the world.
Easy to pick up if you're young and good looking and like to party.

If you're 30 plus and not good looking or rich then yes it's impossible unless you like fatties.

By the way good stuff OP
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This quote from an Australian author about Sydney being called Emerald City has always stuck with me...something like "a place where people go to expecting their dreams to be fulfilled, but end up with superficial substitutes and broken dreams"

Anyway, Sydney is a tough place to get laid unless you are young, have model good looks or have loads of money. As OP said, Bondi and Manly are the best bets. Don't agree with going to Newtown...unless you like being hit on by men. Same applies for Paddington, Darlinghurst and those inner city suburbs.

Forget about going west (unless you like punching on with the beer drinking locals) or south west (Arabia) or lower north (mini China). Once you get away from the harbour and beaches it's suburban, just like many other big cities, but the public transport is bad and the taxis are very expensive.

For the over 30's you pretty much need social circle, or belong to a club etc. Online can work, but the quality will be low.

Now for my advice if you're wanting to visit Australia and want to get laid easily...go to Gold Coast in SE Queensland.
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Outstanding report on Sydney OP.

Aimed at the younger crowd. Be aware foreign swoopers, that the Aussie male competition you face is tall, jacked and naturally alpha.

If you have an exotic accent you will be at an advantage. Cash helps too, balling gets girls attention, but you are still going to need game to convert.

Good luck.
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How much would you budget for living in these places OP?
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(10-24-2017 07:51 AM)Guile Wrote:  You need to lower your standards mate. Fat girls need lovin' too. Banana

I'd rather stick it out and pull the fit ones when they go abroad and are far more loose.

(10-24-2017 07:34 AM)Rossi Wrote:  I really want to visit Australia but whenever I check flights, it shows that it's roughly around 22 hours. That's where I backpedal. I go crazy with 10 hour flight to New York, I don't know what I would do if I have to take a flight for 22 hours.

By the way, how are Italian men perceived in Sydney? Do we have a positive vibe among Australian girls or bad one?

I'm trying to get a secondment to the UK so I don't have to pay 1500 AUD for roughly 20 hour return flights to Europe, refine my club game and access a far greater variety of girls.
I'd take the above and the cloudy weather before skin cancer from excessive sun exposure which Australia is infamous for.

If you're a white or maybe a Pacific Islander bloke you won't be at any disadvantage.
If you want little Italy maybe go visit Leichhardt which isn't too far from the city.

(10-25-2017 06:43 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  How much would you budget for living in these places OP?

As a rough guide

Breakfast – Bacon and Eggs with Avocado/Tomato/Mushrooms – 10-15 AUD
Dinner – mid-range food – 25-35 AUD
Liquor – 1 shot of tequila – 5-8 AUD
Beer – Schooner – AUD 6-8 AUD
Cigarettes – I don't smoke but they ain't cheap like Europe
1 L Vodka – LiquorLand (Booze isn't sold in supermarkets in this state) – 40 AUD
Apples – 3-4 AUD per kg
Bananas – 2-3 AUD per kg
Milk – 1 AUD per litre
Frozen Vegetables – 1kg – 3 - 4 AUD per kg
Whole BBQ Chicken ready to eat – roughly 1kg – 10 AUD
Take away coffee (Cappucino, Flat White, Latte) – 3-5 AUD
Sunscreen – 500 mL – 8-10 AUD
Men's Haircut – A proper one – 30-40 AUD (10-15 AUD if you don't care about attention to detail or are a poor student)
Gym – Casual visit depending on where you go without membership – 12-15 AUD
Bus Trip (Opal pre-paid card) – Around 3 AUD from CBD to the eastern suburbs of Sydney one way and cheaper on weekends and off-peak

I don't do Imperial measurements.

Groceries are from our local chain stores called Woolworths and Coles but if you're willing to venture to North Sydney then you'll find the discount chain store called ALDI.

Rent ranges from 200 to 400 AUD a week depending on how close you are to the CBD.

You don't have to pay for public toilets here at shopping centres I got sick of finding loose Euro change just for the privilege of pissing in Europe.

Coffee here is actually at Europe level. Don't go to Starbucks unless you're an oblivious fob.

Sometimes a schooner of beer at Happy Hour on Fridays during 6PM at bars can go as low as 5 AUD.

* CBD = Central Business District, the centre of Sydney
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(10-25-2017 07:45 AM)JekyllAndHyde Wrote:  Breakfast – Bacon and Eggs with Avocado/Tomato/Mushrooms – 10-15 AUD
Dinner – mid-range food – 25-35 AUD
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Beer – Schooner – AUD 6-8 AUD

At the cafés and restaurants I've used to work at, you can easily pay double for the first two.

Laugh Laugh And it's been a few years since I've seen schooners for $6 (non-student/happy hour prices).

(10-25-2017 07:45 AM)JekyllAndHyde Wrote:  Coffee here is actually at Europe level. Don't go to Starbucks unless you're an oblivious fob.

Depends. It's leaps and bounds ahead of coffee in the USA, but as much as I'd defend Australian (especially Melbourne) coffee, I've had nicer brew at petrol stations and roadhouses in Italy and Poland.

And yes Starbucks is rightly looked down upon here. I can't remember the last time I saw a white person set foot in one.
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(10-25-2017 06:43 AM)Que enspastic Wrote:  How much would you budget for living in these places OP?

Dudes above gave a decent idea. That said, you can offset some of the costs of your accommodation with food and drinks.

For accommodation, the low end is around $600 a week on Airbnb and $350 per week on flatmate finder. You can go much lower with hostels but I mean, it'll make it tough to bring girls home. Overall you can easily get away with $650 a week [On a holiday, but it can also blow out to a grand + if you're drinking heavy at bars every night].

So food and drinks [All easy to find on a google search]. At Bondi Junction there is a building shopping plaza called Eastgate, and on the top floor is an Aldi. You'll be able to get a bottle of vodka for $28 and a case of beer for $22.

Across the road from Eastgate is a tunnel called 'Bronka Arcade'. If you go around 4pm you can pick up large 5 pack of pork bun dumplings for $4, and at the end of the tunnel are two Chinese takeaway joints. Both will be selling plastic containers of rice w/chicken or rice w/beef for $3 each. They're big meals. You can buy 4 or 5 and have microwavable meals ready to go for the next few days.

For good alcohol, you can check out Kemeny's. It's a large Jewish grocer on Bondi Rd, around half a mile up from the beach. They've easily got the best range of alcohol in Bondi but it's a little over priced.

Another hundred yards up from there is a little place called Ruski's deli. It's a Russian cured meats and baked goods store. From here you find a range of low cost breads for 2-$3. They also have cheap meats and 1kg bags of Polish pierogi for under $8.

On Bondi Beach, there is a little vietnamese bakery joint called 'Hong Ha'. These guys were originally in Mascot [Near the airport], and are famous for having the best Bahn Mi in Australia. When I was a teenager, the owners of Hong Ha Mascot actually had their daughter kidnapped for the ingredient to their special sauce, but they didn't give it up. Eventually she was returned, and the recipe stayed in the family.

Back in the day, it used to be $3 for a roll but now they're 'famous' you'll pay $8. If you want to save money though, there's Vietnamese bakery joints everywhere with rolls at around $5 a pop.

If you're in the city during the day, Hunter Connection [A bit tricky to find even with Google maps, so asking someone in the area will help], has some of the cheapest food in the city. You can get sushi, Asian rice/meat dishes, and fried foods for under $7.

If you head down the escalator to the ground floor however, walking towards Wynyard station, you'll find a little Vietnamese joint which is awesome. They serve a tomato rice, salad, fried egg and a pork chop for $6.

All this said, I know when I travel I'm lazy as fuck and usually just eat, drink and go wherever is most convenient which blows out the cost. The dudes above have given a pretty accurate guide as to general prices.
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(10-24-2017 07:59 AM)Guile Wrote:  Girls love Italian guys. French guys. Anyone with an accent. They've grown up on a diet of Hollywood movies with the 'European' man who sweeps them off their feet.

The problem though, is that all the Italian guys I've met who come here are too timid. I think the best way to put it is this: You know how girls throw out a bunch of shit tests just before you take them to bed? Well Australian girls throw out all their shit tests the moment you talk to them. After that, there's far less resistance than girls from other countries. My best advice is to weather the early storm, and make sure the approach is on point.

I didn't know Hollywood shows movie where we sweep them off of their feet mrgreen

I guess, there are not many Italians hit Australia yet because they would hit on every girl there but I always had on my mind that Aussie girls would be easy to bang, for some reason I just changed my mind after reading this topic.
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RE: A refined travel guide for Sydney.
(10-24-2017 07:16 AM)Australia Sucks Wrote:  As a person who is from Sydney I can say that although this datasheet is decent there are a few important exaggerations and omissions.

Firstly in regards to the cock n' bull pub yep its a shit-hole seedy place full of mediocre Irish and British backpackers however its definitely not easy to get laid there. I have been there 3 or 4 times and never had any luck. On weekend nights the place will often have very loud music (hard to talk) and also the Irish and British that come here tend to come in big mixed groups. Very few actual 2 or 3 sets to approach here even when its busy (and yes girls here still have bitch shields!)

The next exaggeration is that about bitch shields in the bar scene being 1/10 of that in the club scene. Sure, the club scene here is pointless and disastrous in fact and bars can be a little better (not enough to matter), but being 30% better than disastrous is still pretty bad if you ask me. In Sydney if you do not have looks in the top 10% approaching is basically a waste of time. Sure if you are lucky you might get laid from spam approaching but the ROI will be too low and it will not be worth it (unless you are very good looking).

Other than the above points the data sheet is pretty on point about logistics and places of interest in Sydney.

As a guy who has done considerable travel and who was born and raised in Sydney, Sydney is one of the hardest places in the world to pick up, don't let the O.P. make you think otherwise. Do not underestimate how hard it is here!


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Rossi, Aussie girls are easy to bang, if you aren’t picky and enjoy drinking. Anything 7.5+ is where you’re gonna really start to struggle as they’re so few and far between and have so many options.
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JekyllandHyde I'm not sure why you think rent in Sydney is $200 to $400 AUD per week. A decent fully furnished studio in a desirable part of Sydney goes for $350 to $450 AUD per week (can be more than $450 for new/high end accommodation) on a long-term rental contract (more expensive for short-term rental). Unless you are living in shared accommodation or living in a B-grade part of Sydney you are not going to get anything reasonable for $200 or $300 per week.
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(10-26-2017 08:30 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  The rules of game repudiation / game envy:

Blame the city.

Blame the country (your username.)

Blame the circumstances.

But never, ever blame or work on your self.

This is not in defense of Australia Sucks, but:

this idea that anyone who isn't seeing success in their own city/country is just a lamewad, needs to die.

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-65220.html

First line of the first post in that thread:

"it's really crazy to see how much location matters when picking up girls"

Continuous improvement is great and all, but at some point you have to start considering the ROI and adjust accordingly.

Pussy ain't for pussies...
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Great datasheet. I hope to visit Sydney soon and this information will be gold.

Australia Sucks, you have posted before that you're not a white guy, have you considered that could be a reason why you have different results in Australia than some others on here? Also you don't drink, and that is a huge part of the culture over there.
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Savage if for some reason you decide to come to Sydney I suggest you forget about the women here. Even if you manage to fuck one it won't have been worth the amount of effort and bullshit you had to go through to get the lay. If you live here and you are forced to deal with them fair enough but if you are just coming in as tourist no point ruining your holiday vibe and good time chasing the bitches in Sydney. That is just my opinion others are free to disagree.
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AS what is your background?..Sydney is a beach town with a huge drinking and drug culture, if you don't fit the stereotypical Aussie male ( IE tall, ripped, tattooed, surfs, is a tradie, get wasted every weekend, starts fights and has a a drug dealer on call 24/7) your chances of getting an Aussie girl 7+ is slim to none..that's just reality..( I'd say having a a dealer hookup would probably get you access to the best quality especially considering prices here.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/health/gl...wb2jd.html

For guys coming to Sydney unless you have those characteristics or connections your focus should be on foreign girls..there are plenty here and imo the hottest girls in the city with the best attitudes and femininity.

Also male competition in Sydney is as high as any city in the world. There is a reason you see those jacked Aussies guys with 6s everywhere you travel to, the women here are spoilt for choice, this can not be emphasized enough. Guys here have their shit together.

What has yet to be mentioned about Sydney is how much the CBD has changed over the years.. these days its basically like being in Asia..walking the streets in the CBD you are lucky to see a white person for every 5 FOB Asians..they basically own everything in the CBD and are the main cause of the housing crisis Sydney is now having....Ive dated a bunch of foreign girls here and one of the first things they always tell me is they are shocked with how many Asians are in the city.

Having travelled a far amount, for me Sydney is a great place to make $$, enjoy the weather and some foreign girls but when you factor in cost of living and overall quality of women the ROI here is among the worst places in the world.
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When I lived in Melbourne I had mates who dated fobs.

One living in a $1m apartment near the city her parents bought her while she studied. She spent $15,000 in a couple of months without realising, probably on bags. Absolutely oblivious in terms of money. Didn't matter.
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^^^ this is the norm in Sydney now. Rich Chinese families buying real estate, restaurants etc etc then sending their children over to "study" and look after their investments.
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How have other Aussie guys from interstate experienced it in Sydney?

Being as objective as possible, what does Sydney have going for it moreso than the other capitals?

I'm above average height — maybe avg. height at the more élite clubs; not jacked but getting there (it's evident that I've got a good body even with a shirt and jumper on), and speak with a slight Oxford accent (have successfully gamed girls before by pretending to be English).

I haven't found Sydney chicks much too different than other Australian girls (met some in Melbourne and when travelling). Not much more stuck up or anything. Fucked one at a festival in outback NSW some years ago, but it took until the midday after.
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^^^ this is the norm in Sydney now. Rich Chinese families buying real estate, restaurants etc etc then sending their children over to "study" and look after their investments.
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