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RE: FBI file on MLK Reveals A Major Hypocrite, Adulterer, and Deviant
(11-04-2017 11:45 PM)Fresh Prince Wrote:  Samseau, were you bullied by a black kid when you were a kid?

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I've a lot of respect for the people of colour that post, guys like Atlanta Man ld happily man a trench with, great guys with a non victimhood outlook. And same for the OP, great mind, l enjoy his threads and posts a lot.

Much as l agree with the sentiment of Samseau, MLK was a fraud imo, and Jackie Kennedy despised the man, l hate that we consistently get sidetracked by race here of all places.

It always turns ugly, shows we still have a long way to go .
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(11-04-2017 12:19 PM)Samseau Wrote:  I've always heard rumors about MLK being a major hypocrite and devient, but I never had any proof to support such accusations. These FBI files are extremely damaging to the man's reputation. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the FBI's allegations are true, in fact, there is no real reason to doubt them considering MLK's early life had plenty of girlfriends. Dude was a player, and once he hit max fame the idea he indulged in all kinds of pussy does not seem unrealistic in the slightest.

Kinda hard to take any of his sermons seriously ever again, though. False prophet recognized.

MLK also copied a great deal of his I Have a Dream Speech from Archibald Carey, speaking at the RNC of 1952. https://soundcloud.com/wbez/archibald-ca...s-1952-gop
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(11-05-2017 12:22 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Or curl up with your girl and some Irish coffee in front of a fire.

Hey buddy the Irish had it just as bad. Even today with St. Paddy's Day. And here it is, why can't it just be coffee with booze?

Seriously though, a 23 page report and MLK is evil.

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Las Vegas Shooter = government lie

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MLK has orgies in Miami = gotta be true, the FBI said so

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This is a relevant thread, given that it ties into national holidays (MLK being the only American whose birthday is a national holiday). So let's take it a step further...

1.) MLK was a black man with impressive achievements; the United States should make his birthday a national holiday and his private life should not be relevant.

2.) George Washington and Abraham Lincoln were white men with impressive achievements; however, the United States should REMOVE their birthdays from the national holiday list and their private lives are VERY relevant (most notably, Washington being a slave owner in an era where many aristocrats were slave owners).

Could the anti-white animus be any more obvious? The rewriting of American history? It's lying right in front of our faces. You could throw a thousand red herrings at the topic, but the reality stays the same.

MLK was purposefully chosen for the National Holiday for one reason: his birthday would provide an annual reminder about the evil of the white racism. (((They))) could have easily chosen a black man of higher academic stature, like a Benjamin Banneker or a Booker T. Washington. Someone that would serve as an intellectual role model for millions of children, black and white. But instead, they chose a man that would, because of his particular struggle, continually remind Americans about white racism; it's the creation of turmoil, perpetuated at the Federal level. I know that wasn't King's plan (I respect him highly, for what it's worth). But this is not about MLK...it's about how the deep state can use him to their advantage.

Washington's birthday and Lincoln's birthday used to be well-celebreated; I remember them vividly from my childhood. But then, they were strategically replaced with the generic "President's Day." Yeah...because we all owe our freedoms to Millard Fillmore. What a scam of the highest order! The subterfuge is so clear...erase all the white heroes of American history and replace them with "divide-and-conquer" figures. The toppling of the confederate statues was just an extension of this. I wouldn't be surprised if in five years, these statues are replaced with a bust of Bella Abzug or Saul Alinsky.

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^Notice also how Columbus day has now been relegated to the dustbins. The sjws at a college nearby where I live have successfully had it removed as a holiday from the school calendar. There wasn't even a token resistance from the faculty.
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(11-05-2017 03:51 PM)Kona Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 12:22 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  Or curl up with your girl and some Irish coffee in front of a fire.

Hey buddy the Irish had it just as bad. Even today with St. Paddy's Day. And here it is, why can't it just be coffee with booze?

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(11-05-2017 04:20 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  ^Notice also how Columbus day has now been relegated to the dustbins. The sjws at a college nearby where I live have successfully had it removed as a holiday from the school calendar. There wasn't even a token resistance from the faculty.

We still have Columbus day bro, it's a national holiday.
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(11-05-2017 12:22 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  It's a beautiful crisp autumn afternoon.

You could go out and play some football in the park.

Or do a colored pencil sketch of the evanescent colors of fall leaves.

Or curl up with your girl and some Irish coffee in front of a fire.

Or discredit Martin Luther King.

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(11-05-2017 12:22 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  It's a beautiful crisp autumn afternoon.

You could go out and play some football in the park.

Or do a colored pencil sketch of the evanescent colors of fall leaves.

Or curl up with your girl and some Irish coffee in front of a fire.

Or discredit Martin Luther King.

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(11-05-2017 06:30 PM)Fortis Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 12:22 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  It's a beautiful crisp autumn afternoon.

You could go out and play some football in the park.

Or do a colored pencil sketch of the evanescent colors of fall leaves.

Or curl up with your girl and some Irish coffee in front of a fire.

Or discredit Martin Luther King.

I saw a circle of the great poets last night in my dreams.

In that circle, I saw Dante.

In that circle, I saw Shakespeare.

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And in that circle, i saw Debeguiled!

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(11-05-2017 09:04 AM)Buck Wild Wrote:  @ Razor Beast

Saying I'd rather be alive in 2017 as opposed to 1890 as a black man is not proof that "collectively and maybe culturally they don't value a traditional nuclear family and a strong community as much as white [people] do".

The point is that black people's problems in 2017 can--and I believe will--be overcome by us eventually. Black people's problems in 1890 could not be overcome by us because the deck was entirely stacked against us.

But I'm guessing you probably already understand this--I think you just got a little carried away with your post. Perhaps you typed a reply in advance of really digesting what I had said?

This is, without question, the best time to be alive as a black American male. My grandparents definitely thought so---and they absolutely valued the nuclear family (lifelong marriages until death parted them) and their grandparents were slaves in this country.

Just so you know.

You're right its not proof, but it shows the default response for a black man is a knee jerk response to automatically assume it was a declaration that you should once again be willing to submit to racism and discrimination, rather than to acknowledge he was referring to the widespread destruction of the nuclear family within those communities.

To be honest, no, I don't think these communities will ever fix themselves, because if they don't understand what the problem is in the first place they have no way of solving it. The minority, like you, understand, but unless you take action within your community nothing will change. I'll call it the "pluralistic ignorance" phenomenon as it relates to community organizing (Cialdini - Influence, p.99)

I think the biggest beef many have with the perpetual state of black outrage over historical civil rights issues is that many white people in the states come from dirt poor European immigrant families who didn't have a dollar to their name and lived in filth in ethnic ghettos in the early to mid 1900's. They got called ethnic slurs much like blacks did by the native population. Sure no one in their family tree was ever a slave, but the living conditions and quality of life were quite abysmal. I find it hard to believe that racism and discrimination (which was never engaged in by the ancestors of a large percentage of the modern day white population in the states I might add) is the only explanation for the continuing collective failure of these black communities. There should have been much more progress made in the last 40-50 years. Where is it? Samseau already explained the reason for the continuing failures.
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(11-05-2017 08:51 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  I got something for Sam on Monday for this thread. Stay tuned.
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(11-05-2017 04:09 PM)MajorStyles Wrote:  MLK was purposefully chosen for the National Holiday for one reason: his birthday would provide an annual reminder about the evil of the white racism. (((They))) could have easily chosen a black man of higher academic stature, like a Benjamin Banneker or a Booker T. Washington. Someone that would serve as an intellectual role model for millions of children, black and white. But instead, they chose a man that would, because of his particular struggle, continually remind Americans about white racism; it's the creation of turmoil, perpetuated at the Federal level. I know that wasn't King's plan (I respect him highly, for what it's worth). But this is not about MLK...it's about how the deep state can use him to their advantage.

Wow. Probably the reason (((they))) keep Jesus's birthday a holiday is to remind everyone that no matter who you are Jews can kill you just like they did him. Its an annual reminder.

I heard that they consolidated presidents day so as not to shorten the already shortest month with another federal holiday. Back when the holidays were both celebrated the usa wasn't so centered on monthly financial cycles and what not. That might not be conspiracy theoryish enough, so its probably knot true.

Presidents day is just another way to further persecute the white man. Sad.

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(11-05-2017 03:46 AM)Razor Beast Wrote:  Your response kind of embodies the whole point he was making. Not the fact that they would go back to being willing to tolerate discrimination. But rather the reason why black communities have made no progress in wake of the civil rights movement is because collectively and maybe culturally they don't value a traditional nuclear family and a strong community as much as white ones do. The individualistic attitude toward the community is why they fall into disrepair and are rife with violence, drugs, gangs, single parents, etc. Point is, if black people collectively took ownership and put intact families and development of children above all else, conditions would improve quite significantly, and in a generation or two the quality of the people living in these communities would be far higher. I expect you would see the standard of living go up and be on par with most white communities.

I don't know if you have ever lived in a predominantly white community, but the entire lives of the parents outside of work revolve around the children's schooling, activities, home life, and development. The parents literally don't live for themselves at all. They sacrifice all of their own needs, wants, and free time for their kids. This is pretty much across the board. And in families where the parents were absent, the kids got into drugs, were poor students, or built up a criminal record. Really no different than you'd see with young black men who grew up with no family support system right? It's just in the white community its not as common, which prevents it from dragging down the standard of living significantly like you'd see in black communities.

I doubt it's cultural because prior to the 1970's, black family structures were fairly strong. A strong family structure doesn't just collapse once you give its members basic human rights. It's very possible that the FBI had some role to play in the crack epidemic that gutted poor blacks, while they almost certainly did their best to destabilize groups like the Black Panthers who wanted to strengthen and educate black communities.

Racial IQ explanations also fall flat in the face of how successful African immigrants to the states are. Most of these immigrants come from Nigeria or Ghana (where most African Americans bear descent) and do fantastically well in the United States, making I believe the highest average income of any ethnic group.

(The Panthers by the way were very different from nutjobs like the Nation of Islam who believed that white people had been bred in spaceships by the black scientist Yakub. Funnily enough these guys did not get fucked with by the FBI.)

I also don't know about that last part. The vast majority of the white people I've met on the West Coast come from divorced families with fairly fucked up issues, most self harmed themselves through their teenage years, engaged in incredibly self-destructive and hedonistic behavior in college, and were clearly just not raised very well. I remember how I tried to hop the fence into a frat party with some white guys I met. The frat dudes saw us and told us to fuck off. I was like whatever, it's their party, but one of the white dudes started screaming about how the frat guys were faggots and how he didn't want to get into their party anyway. The dude sounded like he was on the verge of tears. I have a million stories like this.

The picture is a lot more complicated than "black people just decide not act civilized or have families", there are a lot of inexplicable shifts that happened in black culture and in American culture as a whole. I think Americans might have the worst family structures in history as a whole, this process has just affected some groups more than others.
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(11-05-2017 11:24 PM)Agastya Wrote:  I doubt it's cultural because prior to the 1970's, black family structures were fairly strong. A strong family structure doesn't just collapse once you give its members basic human rights. It's very possible that the FBI had some role to play in the crack epidemic that gutted poor blacks, while they almost certainly did their best to destabilize groups like the Black Panthers who wanted to strengthen and educate black communities.

(The Panthers by the way were very different from nutjobs like the Nation of Islam who believed that white people had been bred in spaceships by the black scientist Yakub. Funnily enough these guys did not get fucked with by the FBI.)

The Black Panthers and many of the groups they regularly associated with were domestic terrorists who killed police officers, bombed government buildings, plotted with foreign Communist groups during the height of the Cold War, etc.

For instance, Eldridge Cleaver, who was an early leader in the Black Panther movement, admitted in his memoir to being a serial rapist who targeted white women for political reasons. His book was published the same year he tried to ambush and kill a group of cops. Clearly a great role model.

Maybe the FBI had a problem with the Black Panthers because they were hijacking planes at gunpoint and flying them to Cuba and not because the FBI are big, bad racists with nothing better to do than keep black people down.

The above is just one of many airplane hijackings committed by Black Panthers and other radical leftist groups during that time period, by the way. Thank God the US no longer suffers from dozens of hijackings and hundreds of bombings a year because the FBI did their jobs.
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Martin Luther's legacy is built on his insight that true, lasting change must be built on inspiring people to live up to their ideals, not attacking, denigrating or humiliating them.

MLK was a child of the South. He grew up in Atlanta in a comfortable middle class home. When he went away to college in the North, he knew he didn't belong -- he was a Southerner, born and bred. So he returned to home, bringing the philosophical insights he gained in his schooling to challenge white Southerners. He drew on his Christian faith that he shared with the segregationalists to encourage them to live up to their lofty principles as fellow Christians. He knew that only by exhorting them to live up to those principles could he change the environment of the South. And he did.

While he is known as a liberal icon, his acceptance of human limitations and the importance of small groups like family put him at odds with mainstream liberal policies. He has a slightly unnatural but more welcome home with conservatives interested in family and Christian faith. Why so many conservatives continue to degrade him is beyond me. . .

These sorts of scurrilous character attacks are disgusting and not befitting of a man of such tremendous insight and spirit. We are blessed to have had such a great man in our history. I can only shake my head at such flagrant lies and conspiracy-theorizing about MLK.

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Once again, in french there is a saying for every days church attending women that never failed to validate itself:
"Folle de la messe, folle de la fesse" = "Crazy about church, crazy about ass".

People need to question more than twice those who keep advocating righteousness, church going, deviant lynching, tax paying or anything else and crusade about it, most of the time you'll find them secretly bathing in the same shit they kept fighting for years because they mostly trying to convince themselves, not others.

"You become what you fight"

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I say take the document dump with a grain of salt. The FBI at the time was a mess, and all this stuff was used as potential blackmail material. Given the history of King that I'm aware of, he was regularly harassed by federal agents, and if i'm not mistaken, they sometimes threatened him via anonymous phone calls and the mail. If some all powerful government agency puts a tremendous amount of resources in digging into your personal life they're going to find out things about you that are not flattering. Plus, who knows, maybe some of it's fabricated, or made with the intent to discredit.

Granted, the stuff about his extra-maritial affairs is not shocking. In fact, there's been credible stuff out there for quite a while about his interests in white women. Another commenter mentioned the "i have a dream speech", and of course there's his PhD dissertation, which scholars got a look at a number of years ago, and saw that it was plagiarized 30-40 percent verbatim. The university in question declined to rescind his PhD. Here's the info on that: http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/11/us/bos...-king.html
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RE: FBI file on MLK Reveals A Major Hypocrite, Adulterer, and Deviant
Quote:I've always heard rumors about MLK being a major hypocrite and devient, but I never had any proof to support such accusations. These FBI files are extremely damaging to the man's reputation. I wouldn't be surprised at all if the FBI's allegations are true, in fact, there is no real reason to doubt them considering MLK's early life had plenty of girlfriends. Dude was a player, and once he hit max fame the idea he indulged in all kinds of pussy does not seem unrealistic in the slightest.

Kinda hard to take any of his sermons seriously ever again, though. False prophet recognized.

A false prophet is someone who is subverting and perverting the word of God itself for profit, control, trickery, and deceptive activity. Benny Hinn qualifies, not MLK.

The FBI also has a poor credibility problem. A cross dressing faggot director that never even married a woman, that kept elaborate dossiers on all politicians in office like some messy female, as extortion material. The same overly emotional faggot that sent an Italian mob hitman (perhaps the worst in history, Roy DeMeo), to go to the South and kill Klansmen for abducting a white Jewish boy that was doing Civil Rights work.

So if he crossdress, send killers circumventing Federal law, everything he has on MLK should be believed without question?

Also last time I checked, MLK never addressed these allegations. Dead men cannot tell tales.

So here you are calling a man a liar for lies he never told, a hypocrite for hypocrisy that could be false and is not 100% proven, and then passing judgement on his character for it. Sounds subversive to me. What is your agenda?

Quote:Jefferson never claimed to be a man of God. Hypocrisy is a mortal sin that sends someone directly to hell. 50 years after MLK and Blacks vote on one side and Whites on the other. False prophet recognized.

"Ye shall know them by their fruits." No fruits from MLK. But plenty of fruits from men like Jefferson (a deist, not even a Christian), who produced the greatest and most powerful Christian country in history.

In fact, it is extremely doubtful Blacks today would even appreciate a man like MLK. His speeches are too wordy and complex compared to most Black speakers today. Examining the decline of Black America since MLK is actually rather depressing and sad. I'm not trying to be abrasive, but there are no fruits from MLK 50 years out. Compare that to your Jefferson example, 50 years out from 1776 and America had grown at least fivefold.

Hypocrisy is punishable by hell? What are you reading? The Old Testament only? You cannot be reading the New Testament with that bad take. No mortal man born on Earth was capable of living without sin, to fulfill the original covenant's requirements and God knew this so he sent his son Jesus to die as a sacrifice for our sins.

I also did not know that you have access to the Good Book either to know that MLK has indeed gone to hell. Samseau Style False Prophet Game Recognized!

Quote:This is a typical leftist tactic to conflate logic and argumentation with unrelated personal behaviors.

Like Trump and pussy grabbing. Doesn't mean we shouldn't have a border, yet to a liberal they're linked (even though they're not).

Yea he was a bad Baptist minister apparently but that doesn't invalidate his other arguments. I also don't believe anything from any government agency anymore but that's kind of unrelated as I'm sure some of their bullshit is true.

Exactly! Call this for what it is. Effeminate behavior. You tell your wife or a girlfriend to do something, but instead they bring up some mistake you may have made on some previous date, completely ignoring the constructive criticism you have just offered to them. This is exactly female behavior. It's a type of pouting when they are not getting their way with something.

Samseau you would not be getting called out had you just merely looked at these findings objectively. You come off as bitter and hurt as if he personally moved your cheese, or fucked your hoe. What's up with that?

(11-04-2017 10:27 PM)Samseau Wrote:  How was MLK any different than the many corrupt Popes and Bishops

Because he is NOT! Here is the deal man. One of the many reasons why Catholics and similar types of Christianity is wrong has a lot to do with them violating God's will and design for their lives, by not marrying a woman! All men are prone to carnal sins of the flesh. God said in the Old Testament that he thought Adam being alone was not good for his life. Only an arrogant man thinks he is above God's design for his life, by living like a monk abstaining from sexual activity.

What got Lucifer kicked out of heaven? Arrogance.

Here is the reality. There are no pure men, even in ministry. The older I have gotten, the more I see it. As I myself am getting the midlife crisis bug, it gets hard sometimes to keep oneself from doing stupid shit, chasing hoes, spending money poorly, etc. Job from the Bible and Elijah types are few far and inbetween. The vast majority of us will break.

Also, your views on premarital sex line up perfectly on why and how only men can do these things and it not destroy them like it would a woman. Concubines while not good are not damnation material. Plenty of men around the world have lifestyles like this and are fine. It isn't optimal if you want to be blessed and your family, but it is not an automatic curse either.

Let's talk about Baptist folks for a minute, just in general. Baptist people I will admit, drink too much, hoe up and down the road, go out to clubs and party too hard. They always in church on Sunday hollerin and struttin laps across the poolpit showing out, but the other days of the week, it's not kosher at all. While they still fulfill the requirements for salvation, none of the bad behavior helps them in life. They cut off their own blessings. In some ways King cursed his own family. None of his children have children. His legacy was cut at the end of his work. If no good deed goes unpunished, what do you think happens when you do bad things?

Growing up in the South, my family (extended on both sides) was split church wise. My mother's family was mostly Church of God In Christ (COGIC) which is the black version of Pentecostal. I'm sure you know what that is, but for those that do not, Pentecosts are almost as strict as Jehovah's Witnesses on discipline. They do not practice shunning, but women are not allowed to cut their hair, and must always wear dresses, makeup and piercings was banned, among other things. Other folks in the family were Baptist. You could always know who was who. Me personally I gravitated more towards the COGIC side, because I like those traditional views and I thought the unblemished women were prettier Tongue My brothers are definitely more Baptist than anything.

Today we have Non-Denominational and Evangelical Christians. Let's be real though. What is the difference between those and Baptists? Nothing. Those first two do not have the Southern Baptist Convention more or less. All three share the same bookstores and TV stuff. All 3 are horrible on discipline. It's pretty fast food and is full of feminism unfortunately. Reading Dalrock, you find that he is talking about these three Churches unless he specifies something else. Baptist came before the other two and MLK had no chance to pick. He grew up in their bad culture of doing things. Sure he has responsibilities for his actions, but the vast majority of blacks were Baptist because they were not exactly welcome in white churches. COGIC blacks were those that wanted the spirit filled experience but more structure. Even smaller amounts went the JW route. Even today they are a small minority.

The take away from all of this is that Christian black people, have to improve upon each new generation. Many Baptists are no longer that and learn more and do better generally speaking. My expert bible knowing grandfather (who was Baptist) used to beat my grandmother and was very cruel to her, but his son, as well as myself had to break that generational curse. My son should get alot closer to a saint than I did and I will continue to speak blessings over his life so that he may keep Godly favor and pass that down. I'm doing things my father did not know how to do spiritually. I resisted working in ministry but perhaps my son will do better than me and will at least volunteer and keep himself out of mess like I got into.

I think it is a poor idea for other Christians to pass judgement and look down upon "Baby Christians" and others with deep faults and condemn them without at least trying to understand where they are coming from. If people that want George Washington's statues taken down because he owned slaves, and we here know that is wrong because we should not be holding others from the past to today's standards like that, why do this to MLK? The fathers of our country and our own families were not saints and it is not fair to look down on them today with our Modern Arrogance as if we are better than them as men. If you are under 40, you especially needn't say anything ill of other older men. Walk some miles in their shoes first.

Let's look at this from another viewpoint now.

Your hero Trump, technically is not really qualified to be president, but God is still using him regardless of his many flaws to do HIS work. None of can know all of the Lord's plans, but when you see the results of his work, you know it is HIS work and not the work of the enemy.

Look at Kirk Franklin. I have seen personally many people after hearing this song come up at get salvation on the spot. Kirk has a huge porn problem and opened up about it years ago. He had gotten so bad he was trying to get his wife to watch it with him.




Watch the late great Rev. Paul Jones sing this amazingly powerful song that has blessed countless people, saved who knows how many people. Rev. Jones struggled with homosexuality at some point in his life (I'm not too sure on the details of exactly when), and not long after he made this song, he was killed by a homeless man he let into his house to help or something to that effect.




Donnie McClurkin is another great one. He was molested as a young man, and struggled with a gay identity, but is now a powerful force for God and wrote two of the best selling Gospel songs in decades.

These men are incredibly flawed by men's standards, like yours Sam. By God's standards, they are and including yourself are not even worthy of his love. Nevertheless God still loves them and you, and he will still USE them, even if they thought there were garbage, to lead more of his flock to him. He is using you as well.

Trump is our generation's wicked king Nebuchadnezzar. God is going to use him to do his will. No political science book could have predicted his rise with any real accuracy, but here he is due to God's will. MLK was a ENFJ Southern Baptist minister with alot of game/swag and flaws. Because both of them have the balls and the Silver Tongue to confront and do battle with the enemy, knowing damn well they have a disgusting closet behind them, God chose them to do the dirty work needed. You have to respect that stuff when you see it. Only God can take a man covered in filth and make him whole again. You said you would know them by their works before right? Well neither guy is Mohammad. He is a false prophet/anti-christ for a litany of reasons to list, but he did absolutely no good things outside of his blasphemies. That's how you can know the difference.

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RE: FBI file on MLK Reveals A Major Hypocrite, Adulterer, and Deviant
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RE: FBI file on MLK Reveals A Major Hypocrite, Adulterer, and Deviant
(11-06-2017 09:14 AM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Here is the reality. There are no pure men, even in ministry. The older I have gotten, the more I see it. As I myself am getting the midlife crisis bug, it gets hard sometimes to keep oneself from doing stupid shit, chasing hoes, spending money poorly, etc. Job from the Bible and Elijah types are few far and inbetween. The vast majority of us will break.

Great Point TK!

One of the things I started working towards was to be less judgmental. I have my bad days, but overall I think I am much better. A work in progress as they say.

It's easy to cast stones towards someone without walking in their shoes. Many like to think we would behave better even if we went through the trials and tribulations of our fellow man.

If I am going to be honest, I need to realize that I may not act better. In fact, I may act worst if I had to live someone's life. Keeping that in the back of my mind helps me judge less.

Make no mistake, some actions are not excusable and that isn't what I am talking about.

I don't believe judging others will bring you closer to God. I think it is the opposite and one of the reasons we are here is to learn not to judge. We are here to make mistakes and learn from those mistakes. To help each other learn and through that we grow spiritually.

MLK is probably not a saint. I haven't met anyone that was. His impact has left our society much better than if he had never existed.

The family and other issues that plague the black community is all of our problems. It isn't like other communities aren't suffering from the same issues. Go visit some of those blue collar states and you will see tons of white people hooked on drugs.

No jobs, nothing to do with their time and depression from feeling hopeless can lead to disaster for any person.

I like to think most people want to take care of their families and feel proud in doing so. Hopefully, we will get more jobs to give people the chance to be proud again.

Too much time, with nothing to lose, leads to bad actions. I don't think we will ever get back to the nuclear family but my hope is things will get better.
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RE: FBI file on MLK Reveals A Major Hypocrite, Adulterer, and Deviant
Completely agreed it's an excellent post besides the heavy Protestant rhetoric and a few points here and there. Implying Catholicism and by proxy Eastern Orthodoxy as heresies doesn't necessarily jive well with me.

But I'm no Christian so there's no dog of mine in this fight.

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