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American Woman Faces 20 Years in Zambabwean Prison for Insulting Dictator
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An American woman charged with subversion in Zimbabwe for allegedly insulting the country’s president will remain in police custody this weekend after making her first court appearance Saturday.

Martha O’Donovan, 25, a graduate of New York University, has been accused of calling President Robert Mugabe, 93, a “sick man” in a Twitter post that included a photo illustration of Mugabe with a catheter. O’Donovan denied the allegations, calling them “baseless and malicious.”

O’Donovan’s lawyer, Rose Hanzi, told the court that a subversion charge was illegal because police did not inform the woman of it when she was taken from her home in the capital, Harare, on Friday morning.

The court disagreed and ruled that O’Donovan will remain in custody over the weekend. Hanzi said on Monday they will approach the High Court for bail.

O’Donovan made no statement in court and showed no emotion as the request was dismissed. She waved to a small crowd of supporters as she was escorted into a prison truck.

The American had been working with a local social media outlet Magamba TV, which described itself as producing “satirical comedy sensations.” She called herself a manager for Magamba TV and a “media activist.”

O’Donovan’s arrest was the first since Mugabe appointed a cybersecurity minister last month. Zimbabwe was shaken last year by the biggest anti-government protests in a decade. Frustration is growing in the once prosperous southern African nation as the economy collapses and the president, in power for more than 35 years, is already running for next year's elections.

Mugabe’s wife Grace was rumored to take over the presidency after the president, who has been rumored to be in declining health, resigns or dies. The first lady was not well-liked among the country’s citizens due to her lavish spending and fear of being criticized, The Guardian reported.

The group representing O'Donovan, Zimbabwe Lawyers for Human Rights says it has represented nearly 200 people charged for allegedly insulting Mugabe, the world's oldest head of state, in recent years.

"This arrest marks the start of a sinister new chapter in the Zimbabwean government's clampdown on freedom of speech, and the new battleground is social media," said Amnesty International's deputy regional director, Muleya Mwananyanda. The statement said Zimbabwe authorities tracked tweets to O'Donovan's IP address.

An American woman charged with subversion in Zimbabwe for allegedly insulting the president will remain in police custody this weekend after appearing in court for the first time.
American woman, 25, jailed for calling 93-year-old African dictator a 'sick man,' faces 20 years in prison

An American woman charged with subversion in Zimbabwe for allegedly insulting the president on Twitter has appeared in court.
American who allegedly called Zimbabwe president a 'sick man' on Twitter charged with subversion

Lawyers and a U.S. Embassy official say Zimbabwe police have arrested a United States citizen for allegedly insulting President Robert Mugabe on Twitter.
US citizen arrested in Zimbabwe, accused of insulting Mugabe

The head of the World Health Organization revoked his appointment of Zimbabwe's President Robert Mugabe as a "goodwill ambassador" on Sunday after the choice drew widespread outrage and criticism.
World Health Organization revokes appointment of Mugabe

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That's pretty much what I figured she looked like.

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(11-04-2017 02:26 PM)RIslander Wrote:  The American had been working with a local social media outlet Magamba TV, which described itself as producing “satirical comedy sensations.”

Hey, at least she's got her sense of humor. Undecided

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The problem with growing up in a society where you are made to believe you are a special snowflake ,that nothing can touch you and that you can get away with insulting and complaining falls flat when transplanted to the harsh realities of the third world.

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Talk about a harsh reality check. I don't belive in the pussy pass but that was excessive! There must be some moral to the story like don't go to oppressive countries?

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WB. Let's be honest here though, do you really think she's gonna be in prison 20 years? I'd be surprised if she got stuck in prison 20 days much less 20 years.
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That continent needs its own version of the French revolution. But I can relate, nothing good is ever easy.
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I love it.
She thinks she has free reign to insult people. As aforementioned the snowflakes from the west think they can insult people and other cultures without penalty.
Insulting versus criticizing with reason and logic are 2 different things.
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(11-04-2017 02:56 PM)rapaz12 Wrote:  snip Let's be honest here though, do you really think she's gonna be in prison 20 years? I'd be surprised if she got stuck in prison 20 days much less 20 years.

Yeah you're probably right, an official looking to get on Mugabe's good side will probably arrange her surreptitious murder like the N. Koreans did to Otto Wambier(not that I condone of that or her imprisonment).

Just like the girl you're erroneously thinking that every country has the same level of protected speech as the US. People have been killed for less than what she "did". This is same country where White farmers were/are beaten and killed for their land and the cops do/did nothing. (It's not just Zimbabwe: Saying the same about the King in Thailand would've landed her about 15 years.)

Unless the UN or the US says something there's a real chance she done for.


(11-04-2017 02:56 PM)rapaz12 Wrote:  WB

Wtf

Use spellcheck before you post...you missed the "N" between the W and B.

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Cant the American Navy Seal go and rescue her?

All you gotta do is ask them questions and listen to what they have to say and shit.
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Something tells me she isn't one of the best the US sends. Keep her there.
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(11-04-2017 04:32 PM)Chris Brown Wrote:  Cant the American Navy Seal go and rescue her?

Why should they?
You'd think she would have thought twice about publicly insulting the Supreme leader of a foreign nation with a particularly violent recent history and of which she is a civilian visitor with no diplomatic immunity .
What did she think would happen?

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(11-04-2017 04:32 PM)Chris Brown Wrote:  Cant the American Navy Seal go and rescue her?

Very unlikely. They don't have jurisdiction and it'll be a "very" expensive battle.

Do you think you'll be let go if you insult a Saudi Prince or King in Saudi Arabia? Do you think the US can really do something about it? At best, you'll get a reduced sentence because of your passport because the Saudis have good relations with the US.

But try that in Iran; and you'll get an extended sentence.

You should read warnings on your countries embassy before travelling. Things like Politics, Religion and controlled substances (drugs) vary from a country to another.
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(11-04-2017 02:56 PM)rapaz12 Wrote:  WB

Wtf

Use spellcheck before you post...you missed the "N" between the W and B.

https://www.facebook.com/martha.odonovan.39

Noope. No typos bro.
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She's got an anti-Mugabe video linked on her FB profile. Why are these activists so stupid they openly criticise dictators on social media?
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This shit brings a big smile to my face. Made my fucking day! Fat American, feminist libby snowflake just fucked with the wrong bull.
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Well hey, now she can make personal reparations for all that white privilege she'll have claimed we all enjoy.

How fucking dumb is she? A white woman goes to a country that's been killing and exiling white farmers specifically and decides to join up with a "satirical" (i.e. government-critical, i.e.e. just begging Mugabe to arrest one of the crew for speaking out so as to raise their profile) TV outfit? That's like wearing a Stars and Stripes T-shirt, going up to the Hidden City and pissing on a poster of Mao.

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When keeping it real goes wrong.

Some bitches learn the hard way that the soft values of the West are an aberration throughout the world, not an all encompassing standard that they can perpetually rely on.
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I was going to post the meme of the homeless black guy captioned "you gonna get raped", but that just felt racist.

So I went a different way with it:

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EDIT: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/11/ci...02912.html

Quote:Zimbabwe Republic Police "says Martha O'Donovan insulted Mugabe when she allegedly tweeted that 'We are being led by a selfish man and sick man'", ZLHR tweeted. The post shared by O'Donovan did not refer to Mugabe by name.

'we'?




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Reminds me of the American guy that tried to steal something in North Korea and was shipped back a veggie.

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(11-04-2017 02:35 PM)Beyond Borders Wrote:  
(11-04-2017 02:26 PM)RIslander Wrote:  The American had been working with a local social media outlet Magamba TV, which described itself as producing “satirical comedy sensations.”

Hey, at least she's got her sense of humor. Undecided

   

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Love this song.

Well some people live in a bubble. There are parts in the world where you get killed for a strange look, where they imprison you for stuff we call nonsense. Where people live that give a shit about you because they struggle to survive. Or where you are just a pawn for their political and idealogical agenda.
When I was in Brazil I got hosted in a place where also some social workers had be. Mostly German girls. It was total forbidden in their contract that they get involved into political demonstrations. This is some sort of Neo Colonialism. People from western countries go to "poor" places and try to lecture the local people how to do stuff. I got hold in custody for far less in Japan. Confused

The freedom we have here is not a common thing in 99 % of the world. And those jerks now try either to mess in those places or bring those people in masses here.

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At least she has got the balls to stand up to a ruthless dictactor. When I was in Zimbabwe I wouldnt dare criticise a man who has a 'degree in violence'.

All you gotta do is ask them questions and listen to what they have to say and shit.
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Balls or utter stupidity and habit of pissing on the name of the state back home and thinking the privilege extended worldwide?
Isn't it great that for all the things american can genuinely complain about,they can say that a president should be blown up without being paid a visit by the local Gestapo?

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