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(11-05-2017 07:29 PM)ivansirko Wrote:  
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(11-05-2017 06:34 PM)Jetset Wrote:  Together We Rise is a foster kids/adoption thing. He was also a teacher's aid for a bible school for kids 4-through-6.

Court-martial and dishonorable discharge from the Air Force in 2014, but his LinkedIn still says he lives by the core values of the Air Force, and has a number of basic spelling and grammatical mistakes.

Given the weird look on his face, I'm getting a "mildly 'tarded pedo" vibe from this guy.

Question for people who know more about this than I do: doesn't a court-martial and dishonorable discharge imply that he was a convicted felon and should not have been able to pass a background check for that gun?

Dishonorable discharge people are not legally able to own firearms like felons.

Thats a good catch...meaning the idiots who are calling for gun control arent self-aware enough to know we already have it.

This is more than just gun control issue. This could be either political or a vindictive atheist. Possibly both.

They need to find out how he bought that gun on the black market but at the end of the day that does nothing to stop anti Christian or anti Conservative people from killing others. Armed people at church has been a hot issue the last few years. This is going to make it worse.

Part of the decline samseau and others talk about includes the hunting of Christians at some point, perhaps now is the beginning of this. If they cannot out vote the silent majority perhaps they will kill us instead.

Pardon errors on phone.

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(11-05-2017 07:35 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:29 PM)ivansirko Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:26 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 06:34 PM)Jetset Wrote:  Together We Rise is a foster kids/adoption thing. He was also a teacher's aid for a bible school for kids 4-through-6.

Court-martial and dishonorable discharge from the Air Force in 2014, but his LinkedIn still says he lives by the core values of the Air Force, and has a number of basic spelling and grammatical mistakes.

Given the weird look on his face, I'm getting a "mildly 'tarded pedo" vibe from this guy.

Question for people who know more about this than I do: doesn't a court-martial and dishonorable discharge imply that he was a convicted felon and should not have been able to pass a background check for that gun?

Dishonorable discharge people are not legally able to own firearms like felons.

Thats a good catch...meaning the idiots who are calling for gun control arent self-aware enough to know we already have it.

This is more than just gun control issue. This could be either political or a vindictive atheist. Possibly both.

They need to find out how he bought that gun on the black market but at the end of the day that does nothing to stop anti Christian or anti Conservative people from killing others. Armed people at church has been a hot issue the last few years. This is going to make it worse.

Part of the decline samseau and others talk about includes the hunting of Christians at some point, perhaps now is the beginning of this. If they cannot out vote the silent majority perhaps they will kill us instead.

Pardon errors on phone.

Sticking with only the gun control issue, he could have bought the gun from a gun show right? They don't do any kind of background check.
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Yes, a dishonorable discharge is usually akin to a felony. That’s why the question is asked on federal and state gun applications, and why they ask on employment applications usually in the same area where they ask about felony convictions. The FBI should have had a file on the idiot, and he probably shouldn’t have been permitted to buy the rifle.
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(11-05-2017 07:38 PM)Repo Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:35 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:29 PM)ivansirko Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:26 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 06:34 PM)Jetset Wrote:  Together We Rise is a foster kids/adoption thing. He was also a teacher's aid for a bible school for kids 4-through-6.

Court-martial and dishonorable discharge from the Air Force in 2014, but his LinkedIn still says he lives by the core values of the Air Force, and has a number of basic spelling and grammatical mistakes.

Given the weird look on his face, I'm getting a "mildly 'tarded pedo" vibe from this guy.

Question for people who know more about this than I do: doesn't a court-martial and dishonorable discharge imply that he was a convicted felon and should not have been able to pass a background check for that gun?

Dishonorable discharge people are not legally able to own firearms like felons.

Thats a good catch...meaning the idiots who are calling for gun control arent self-aware enough to know we already have it.

This is more than just gun control issue. This could be either political or a vindictive atheist. Possibly both.

They need to find out how he bought that gun on the black market but at the end of the day that does nothing to stop anti Christian or anti Conservative people from killing others. Armed people at church has been a hot issue the last few years. This is going to make it worse.

Part of the decline samseau and others talk about includes the hunting of Christians at some point, perhaps now is the beginning of this. If they cannot out vote the silent majority perhaps they will kill us instead.

Pardon errors on phone.

Sticking with only the gun control issue, he could have bought the gun from a gun show right? They don't do any kind of background check.

No.

Quote:Despite what some may say, there is no such thing as a “gun show loophole.” Sales through FFL dealers and private transactions at a gun show function exactly the same as they would outside of a gun show. Everyone still has to comply with all federal, state, and local laws without exception. Gun control advocates who push for “closing the gun show loophole” are actually proposing to ban private sales entirely. This means expanding background checks to any sale or trade of a firearm, in some cases even involving gifts or temporarily borrowing a firearm. Could you imagine going to an FFL dealer to run a background check every time you wanted to borrow your brother’s rifle for deer season?

https://www.nrablog.com/articles/2016/3/...gun-shows/

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(11-05-2017 07:38 PM)Repo Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:35 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:29 PM)ivansirko Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:26 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 06:34 PM)Jetset Wrote:  Together We Rise is a foster kids/adoption thing. He was also a teacher's aid for a bible school for kids 4-through-6.

Court-martial and dishonorable discharge from the Air Force in 2014, but his LinkedIn still says he lives by the core values of the Air Force, and has a number of basic spelling and grammatical mistakes.

Given the weird look on his face, I'm getting a "mildly 'tarded pedo" vibe from this guy.

Question for people who know more about this than I do: doesn't a court-martial and dishonorable discharge imply that he was a convicted felon and should not have been able to pass a background check for that gun?

Dishonorable discharge people are not legally able to own firearms like felons.

Thats a good catch...meaning the idiots who are calling for gun control arent self-aware enough to know we already have it.

This is more than just gun control issue. This could be either political or a vindictive atheist. Possibly both.

They need to find out how he bought that gun on the black market but at the end of the day that does nothing to stop anti Christian or anti Conservative people from killing others. Armed people at church has been a hot issue the last few years. This is going to make it worse.

Part of the decline samseau and others talk about includes the hunting of Christians at some point, perhaps now is the beginning of this. If they cannot out vote the silent majority perhaps they will kill us instead.

Pardon errors on phone.

Sticking with only the gun control issue, he could have bought the gun from a gun show right? They don't do any kind of background check.

For that gun, I doubt it Repo. I could be wrong though. If he did, that loophole would be closed with the quickness. There are black market sellers for those so I would not advise we overlook that. There are cabals of white dudes with felonies that sell stuff like this out of basements and trucks. That's where your skinheads and biker gang members buy their gear from typically. Arizona has a big problem with that for example.

His gun might be full auto which means he likely didn't get it at a show.

He may have bought lowers from a shady seller as well and gotten the AR from somewhere else.

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(11-05-2017 07:42 PM)YoungBlade Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:38 PM)Repo Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:35 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:29 PM)ivansirko Wrote:  
(11-05-2017 07:26 PM)TravelerKai Wrote:  Dishonorable discharge people are not legally able to own firearms like felons.

Thats a good catch...meaning the idiots who are calling for gun control arent self-aware enough to know we already have it.

This is more than just gun control issue. This could be either political or a vindictive atheist. Possibly both.

They need to find out how he bought that gun on the black market but at the end of the day that does nothing to stop anti Christian or anti Conservative people from killing others. Armed people at church has been a hot issue the last few years. This is going to make it worse.

Part of the decline samseau and others talk about includes the hunting of Christians at some point, perhaps now is the beginning of this. If they cannot out vote the silent majority perhaps they will kill us instead.

Pardon errors on phone.

Sticking with only the gun control issue, he could have bought the gun from a gun show right? They don't do any kind of background check.

No.

Quote:Despite what some may say, there is no such thing as a “gun show loophole.” Sales through FFL dealers and private transactions at a gun show function exactly the same as they would outside of a gun show. Everyone still has to comply with all federal, state, and local laws without exception. Gun control advocates who push for “closing the gun show loophole” are actually proposing to ban private sales entirely. This means expanding background checks to any sale or trade of a firearm, in some cases even involving gifts or temporarily borrowing a firearm. Could you imagine going to an FFL dealer to run a background check every time you wanted to borrow your brother’s rifle for deer season?

https://www.nrablog.com/articles/2016/3/...gun-shows/

Last time me and some buddies bought one at a show we had to do the paperwork. It's faster because we have CCW but we still had to fill out the top portion.

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A couple other pics/screenshots:

http://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kell...ial-media/

[Image: devin-patrick-kelley-linkedin.jpg?qualit...;amp;w=605]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/devon-patri...ch-latest/

[Image: 171105-devin-patrick-kelley.jpg]

I'm certain there's something "up"/"slow" about this guy. It's not going to turn out that he's a skilled operator.

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(11-05-2017 08:02 PM)Jetset Wrote:  I'm certain there's something "slow" about this guy.

Are you sure he's not just Irish?
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Heavy.com is reporting that his wife is from the town and her mom attended the church.

I think this was most likely a personal attack.
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(11-05-2017 07:38 PM)Repo Wrote:  Sticking with only the gun control issue, he could have bought the gun from a gun show right? They don't do any kind of background check.

YoungBlade got it; Crowder did a piece on it a while back.

*edit* TK also covered it pretty well

The long and short of it is, while there may (or may not) be shady deals going on in the parking lot behind the gun show (which could take place basically anywhere), the gun show vendors have nothing to gain and everything to lose by trying to shortcut the background check process.



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This looks like a jihadi beard. New convert?
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Why was he dishonorably discharged? I don't think that prohibits you from purchasing a gun, an old friend of mine was dishonorably discharged, but that was because he partied too much and just fucked around in the AF.

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(11-05-2017 08:02 PM)Jetset Wrote:  A couple other pics/screenshots:

http://heavy.com/news/2017/11/devin-kell...ial-media/

[Image: devin-patrick-kelley-linkedin.jpg?qualit...;amp;w=605]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/devon-patri...ch-latest/

[Image: 171105-devin-patrick-kelley.jpg]

I'm certain there's something "up"/"slow" about this guy. It's not going to turn out that he's a skilled operator.

What's up with that beard? Is it time we enforce a shaving policy? Let's start with Cr33pin and Roosh!

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(11-05-2017 08:29 PM)spokepoker Wrote:  Why was he dishonorably discharged? I don't think that prohibits you from purchasing a gun, an old friend of mine was dishonorably discharged, but that was because he partied too much and just fucked around in the AF.

According to Wikipedia congress signed a law in 1968 barring dishonorable discharged vets from gun ownership.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_discharge

Edit: also your friend isn't telling you the whole story.

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I see, I stand corrected. Yeah you're probably right about him not saying what happened. Excuse my ignorance.

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The gun was probably bought through private sale since you dont need to fill out any paper work for texas.
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(11-05-2017 08:02 PM)Jetset Wrote:  I'm certain there's something "up"/"slow" about this guy. It's not going to turn out that he's a skilled operator.

I agree. Looks like someone who loses a couple of digits trying to retrieve their favorite hat from underneath a running riding mower.
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According to the link from YossariansRight

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He was married in 2014 to her who looks thinner than him from this myspace angle picture. Not clear if he was still married. If that's the case the motive isn't incel rage.
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The noncriminal fuck ups get what’s called “other than honorable” discharge. Meaning they’re kicking you out for being a piece of shit.
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(11-05-2017 08:27 PM)kbell Wrote:  This looks like a jihadi beard. New convert?

If you've been through the mid-south, you know that beard is standard-issue for all slow, overweight young men.

Seems he already went through one wife that didn't last long. First marriage 2011, second marriage 2014.

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(11-05-2017 06:34 PM)Jetset Wrote:  Together We Rise is a foster kids/adoption thing. He was also a teacher's aid for a bible school for kids 4-through-6.

Court-martial and dishonorable discharge from the Air Force in 2014, but his LinkedIn still says he lives by the core values of the Air Force, and has a number of basic spelling and grammatical mistakes.

Given the weird look on his face, I'm getting a "mildly 'tarded pedo" vibe from this guy.

Question for people who know more about this than I do: doesn't a court-martial and dishonorable discharge imply that he was a convicted felon and should not have been able to pass a background check for that gun?

Dishonorable discharge people are not legally able to own firearms like felons.

Thats a good catch...meaning the idiots who are calling for gun control arent self-aware enough to know we already have it.

This is more than just gun control issue. This could be either political or a vindictive atheist. Possibly both.

They need to find out how he bought that gun on the black market but at the end of the day that does nothing to stop anti Christian or anti Conservative people from killing others. Armed people at church has been a hot issue the last few years. This is going to make it worse.

Part of the decline samseau and others talk about includes the hunting of Christians at some point, perhaps now is the beginning of this. If they cannot out vote the silent majority perhaps they will kill us instead.

Pardon errors on phone.

Sticking with only the gun control issue, he could have bought the gun from a gun show right? They don't do any kind of background check.

Fake news. Gun shows do background checks.

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(11-05-2017 09:12 PM)porscheguy Wrote:  The noncriminal fuck ups get what’s called “other than honorable” discharge. Meaning they’re kicking you out for being a piece of shit.
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Maybe that's what he got.

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