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Lima Data Sheet - November 2017
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Lima Data Sheet - November 2017
Hola, gents.

Recently, while perusing the RVF archives, I had a chance to check out the intel on Lima, my Latin-American home base. There I noticed two things: first, that the forum’s info on Peru’s City of Kings is scattered in lots of disparate places, and second, that much of it is out of date. With that as an excuse, I’ve prepared an up-to-the-moment data sheet that reflects the day and night game situation here the Peruvian capital as of November 2017.

Hopefully, it’ll stand y’all in good stead.

Meanwhile, should you find yourself wanting to know about my background, you can check out this thread: https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-59644.html.

Enjoy.


I. LIVING

When it comes to staying in Lima, you have two, and only two, options: Miraflores and Barranco. I know, I know, these are the most gringo-heavy spots in town, but as the few RVF members can attest who have dared to hole up in other districts, there’s a reason these areas are popular. Simply put, the logistics here are unparalleled. And this coming from a man who knows just about every part of the city.

Miraflores is the more obvious choice. Part seaside resort, part tourist mecca, it’s got everything you need to avoid feeling like you’re in a third-world country, should that be your priority. Gourmet supermarkets, restaurants, transportation hubs, and most importantly, easy walking access to plenty of good day- and night-game spots. You’ll feel like you never left civilization.

Barranco is more of a sleeper. Artsy and charming where Miraflores is overtly touristy, it has cheaper housing and, as you’ll see, perhaps even better nightlife. The only downside is a relative shortage of supermarkets—and shopping in general.

A few tips:

1. Taxis are unmetered in Peru. This means you have to negotiate to settle a price before getting in. A good rule of thumb is to offer about two thirds of what the driver asks, and then haggle from there.

2. Taxis from the airport cost 45-50 soles to Miraflores and 60 soles to Barranco. Don’t be conned.

3. Do not change money at the banks; the exchange rates are horrible. Instead, use the cambistas (money changers) who stand on many street corners in Miraflores. The best I’ve found are the ones in front of the Interbank at the intersection of Av. Ricardo Palma and Calle Alfonse Ugarte, and the ones on Av. Larco near the intersection with Calle Tarata.

4. Many U.S. banks have agreements that allow you to send money to yourself online and pick it up at a Peruvian partner bank. Look into it before you travel, as bank fees here are exorbitant.

5. Some cheapo hostels have a no-girls policy, and they can occasionally be dicks about enforcing it. Doormen can always be bribed, but in the end, it’s best to just spring for an Airbnb and avoid the whole problem.

6. Lima is generally safe. I’ve been to every neighborhood, even the sketchiest ones, and I’ve never had any trouble. Just remember you’re in a poor Latin American country, and take appropriate precautions.

7. You can get a local SIM card if you want, but everyone here communicates via Whatsapp, so it’s not really necessary.

8. Most Peruvians speak little or no English. You can get bangs without el español, but why not have all the tools you can in your toolkit?

9. Timing is crucial if you plan on gaming girls in Lima. The city has a strange rhythm, in which weather, holidays, and big soccer games can cause all normal activity to be interrupted. If you visit during one of the many long weekends, plan on finding most of the bars and discos either closed or deserted. A list of holidays can be found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_Peru. And don’t even think of gaming girls between December 15 and January 6. Christmastime is family time in Latin America.

10. Lima girls—attractive ones—are more difficult than you think. This means short stays of less than two weeks are not recommendable. Aim for a time span of at least a month, and pipeline, pipeline, pipeline.

11. Finally, the food here more than lives up to its rep as South America’s best. You all know how to use TripAdvisor, I know. But to help you branch out with Peru’s culinary richness, here’s a list of some personal favorite eateries, many of them unknown even to locals.

a. Don Fernando (General Garzón 1788, Jesús María): Northern Peruvian cuisine is, for my money, some of the best in the country. This inconspicuous huarique (hole in the wall) does it better than anyone.

b. La Lucha (Parque Kennedy, Miraflores): These are some of the tastiest sandwiches on the planet, and the fries are a revelation.

c. Siete Sopas (Arequipa 2394, Lince): This 24-hour joint is owned by the same people that run La Lucha, with top-notch Peruvian soups and sandwiches. There’s a reason why there’s almost always a line.

d. Punto Azul (San Martin 595, Miraflores): Seafood is a Peruvian forte, and this cebichería is the perfect introduction. Unlike most restaurants of this type, it’s open for dinner as well as lunch.

e. Aventuras Marinas (Manuel Bonilla 178, Miraflores): Peru is full of cheap menú restaurants that give you an appetizer, entrée, and drink for $3 or $4. This is one of the better ones.

f. Huancahuasi (Javier Prado Este 1405, San Borja): This place serves gourmet food from the sierra. Prices have crept up over the years, but the alpaca saltado and papa a la huancaina are incredible.

g. El Buen Sabor (Arenales 1598, Lince): This cheapo joint gives you massive portions of chicken fried rice, lomo saltado, steak and green spaghetti, whatever—all for about $6. Go during a soccer game for the full effect. Open 24 hours.

h. Jose and Juanita (Risso 490, Lince): This tiny cebichería has no tables; you have to eat at a counter on the wall. But the food is worth every bit of the inconvenience.

i. Panchita (Dos de Mayo 298, Miraflores): Gastón Acurio is Peru’s most famous chef, and this restaurant introduces you to his food without emptying your wallet. Try the suckling pork.

j. Chifa Unión (Unión 126, Barranco): Peru has its own variant of Chinese food, called chifa. It ranges from horrible to heavenly. This joint in Barranco is decidedly at the latter end of the spectrum.

k. Titi (Javier Prado Este 1212, San Isidro): Another chifa, much more upscale, and with even more exquisite food.

l. ÁmaZ (La Paz 1079, Miraflores): Jungle cuisine in Peru is underrated. This fusion joint has my nod as one of the best in South America. One RVF friend went three times in three days.

m. El Characato de Oro (Aviación 3101): Arequipa, Peru’s second city, disputes with the north the title of Peru’s best cuisine. If you can’t go to the city itself, this place offers a good sampling of what’s available.

n. Doña Julia (Huiracocha 1300, Jesús María): Anticuchos are grilled beef hearts. This four-story tower makes them better than anyone. Don’t knock ‘em till you try ‘em.

o. Pardo’s Chicken (Benavides 730, Miraflores): Peruvian rotisserie chicken is famous even in the States. This chain does it to perfection.

The above covers most of the important logistical info you need to know. Now for the task of meeting the ladies.


II. NIGHT GAME

A. MIRAFLORES

It pains me to say it, but night game in Lima’s most tourist-heavy district has seriously declined. Or if not declined, then at least shifted—to Chacarilla, Barranco, maybe other parts of the city. Howsoever, it’s a sad reality that several of the bars and discos that were once my go-to spots for pulling quality chicks are now no more. It’s enough to make a man nostalgic.

Probably the biggest blow for us RVFers was the closure of Gótica, the venerable LarcoMar institution, due to a fire back in November of 2016. When I first arrived in Peru several years ago, the level of talent there was staggering—better than anyplace else in the city. Alas, though, the great Miraflores pituca paradise is now gone. (Aura, a similar club for the rich 18-year-old set, closed back in 2015.)

Even sadder, for the few of you who might remember it, was the closure of OM, a bar-lounge just off Av. Larco on Calle San Martín. OM flew under the radar of many RVFers, but I must have pulled more girls in those crowded upstairs rooms than in any other joint in Lima. But heaven, they say, can’t wait, and nothing lasts forever.

What this means is that for night game in Miraflores, there aren’t many good options remaining. Here are the ones still worth a visit.

1. Ginza (Bellavista 241): Formerly Tumbao VIP, this disco is hit or miss. On a good night, you can find two- and three-sets of attractive chicks from all over the city. On a bad night, it’s deadsville. Age range: early to late 20s. The pricing is totally irrational: some nights it’s free, others they try to con you out of 50 soles. Don’t pay it.

2. Bizarro (Francisco de Paula Camino 220): Also hit or miss. This disco used to be a popular pituca (rich girl) hangout as well, but the same changes that have brought on an infestation of gringos—endless replays of Swedish House Mafia, free backpacker nights on Wednesdays—have also driven the hotter chicks to other party spots. It’s still worthwhile to peek in on Wednesdays after 1 a.m., as you might bump into the random hot girl. Don’t be surprised, though, if all you find are worn-out over-30 barflies and the occasional brichera. Age range: 25-35.

3. Calle de las Pizzas: Yes, I know that lamenting a drop-off in Calle de las Pizzas is like saying Hell itself has gone downhill. But incredibly, the motley mix of backpackers, 60-year-old “players” out to game hookers, and general riff-raff that is Pizza Street has found an even lower low to descend to, as swarms of Venezuelan pros ply their trade and poorly bathed drunks near-catatonic with pisco stumble into the wobbly tables, sending drinks crashing to the floor.

The deepest circle in this inferno is—you guessed it—Sabor Peruano, which has almost but not quite become a full-on hooker bar in recent months. I confess, though, I can’t help ducking in more than is healthy, if only as a kind of excruciating, slow-mo car-crash porn. (Believe it or not, I’ve actually picked up a few nice, normal girls here.) Age range: 20-God only knows.

Elsewhere on Pizza Street, Sabor Peruano’s sister club, Sabor VIP, has never quite recovered from a four-month closure earlier this year. The place is typically half empty, with most of the cute girls sitting at tables drinking beer with their beta orbiters. Age range: 20-35.

The other clubs on the street are mostly full of mixed sets who are there to dance with their friends. Detaching is possible, but difficult. If you dance salsa—I don’t—Son de Cuba has cute girls who are receptive to men with fancy footwork.

Meanwhile, the Old Pub, the English-style bar at the end of the street, continues to be…well, the Old Pub. Lots of clueless older gringos, lots of way-past-their-expiration date peruanas desperate to snag one.

And yes, that short round guy is still outside Sabor Peruano, waving the backpackers in.

4. Calle Berlin: This string of dive bars is where folks from all over Lima go to drink with friends. There are no good pickup spots here, but if you want to get a girl drunk on the cheap, you can’t go wrong with $3 beers and $6 mixed drinks. Meanwhile, Houlihan’s is a venerable Irish bar and meetup spot for RVF members, and at the end of the street is Ankara Lounge (Berlin 341), a new, free disco that sometimes has cute girls. Age range: 25-35.

5. Calle Manuel Bonilla: Located right at the Miraflores Óvalo, next to the Burger King, this side street is like a more upscale Calle Berlin, with several popular bars that attract decent-looking chicks. The problem is that the layouts of nearly all are less than optimal, making it hard to circulate. That said, Rouge Bar, Barbarian, and La Cachina (Manuel Bonilla 109, 108, and 116, respectively) are places I’ve had some luck. Age range: 20-30.

6. Eka Bar (Esperanza 375): This upstairs spot is a nice lounge setting to bring a girl for a date. On Thursday nights there’s also a language exchange for gringo groupies who want to feign interest in learning English while trolling for tail. Age range: 25-35.

7. Sukha (Dos de Mayo 694): If you have a social circle, you might be able to mix with the crowd at the bar in this shi-shi lounge. Unfortunately, most of the women—and there are some hotties among them—are hard to approach, owing to the layout. Added to which, most are accompanied by slobbery dudes who are only too glad to pay the elevated bar tabs the girls incur. Age range: 27-40.

If you’re feeling frustrated, Tequila Rock (Diez Canseco 146) still has some of the hottest putitas in town. Colombians, Venezuelans, all just a $10 cover charge away.

As you can tell from this summary, Miraflores has become decidedly mediocre. Frankly, on a Saturday, your best bet is to hit up other districts. Read on…


B. BARRANCO

In the not-too-distant past, I used to view Barranco as inferior to Miraflores for night game. No more. Nowadays the vaguely bohemian district just south of the Malecón has, all things considered, better options for meeting peruanitas. You might consider adjusting your lodging decisions accordingly.

Here, in roughly descending order, are your best bets for nocturnal socializing.

1. Frida (República de Panamá 220): The hotties that formerly flocked to Gótica have largely migrated to this huge warehouse, which has, frankly, the strongest talent I’ve ever seen in Lima. Every Saturday, multiple chicks in the 8+ range come bouncing in with their friends—making you wonder where they’ve been hiding all week.

Unfortunately, there’s also a flip side. The club deliberately cultivates an exclusive vibe—no Facebook page, secrecy about its address, etc. This means most of those hotties are firmly shielded by their social circles. Worse, some nights you can only get in by being on a list.

If you do make it past the multiple entry barriers, your best bet is to work the crowds on the outside patio. Age range: mid-20s.

2. Picas (Below Puente de los Suspiros): The upstairs part of this laid-back lounge is a good place to bring a chick on a date. Meanwhile, the tiny dance floor offers a selection of pitucas who are reasonably receptive to approaches. Age range: 25-35. The big negative here is inconsistency; some weekends, the joint is near dead.

3. El Dragón (Nicolás de Piérola 168): This place has one of the coolest vibes in Lima. Half neighborhood hangout, half hipster haunt, it’s full of laid-back chicas who are generally friendly and sociable. Quality is hit or miss, but hey, the atmosphere is so chill, you won’t care. Age range: 25-35. Go Wednesdays, and glad-handle the bouncer a little. He’ll frequently let you in for free.

4. Help (Catalino Miranda 158): This cavernous bunker is the best game in town on Thursdays, with a large, generally friendly crowd and no cover. Be prepared for lots of backpackers, though, and volumes that are ear-splitting. Age range: 18-late 20s.

5. Toro Retro Bar (Salaverry 143): This large-ish disco is underrated. Every time I’ve gone, I’ve seen talent that compares favorably with more upscale places. The problem, though, is that universal curse of night game in Latin America: social circles. Nearly everyone goes with their mixed group, with the dudes footing the bill. Worth a visit, regardless. Age range: 20-30.

6. Rústica (Plaza Municipal): I’m surprised this place hasn’t popped up on a previous data sheet. Most of the Rústica restaurants in Lima morph into discos on weekends; this one has a big dance floor with friendly, slightly older chicks. Quality is mediocre, but the drinks are cheap, and it’s easy to post up near the bar and pull a girl out onto the dance floor. Age range: 25-35.

7. Bulevar: Like Calle de las Pizzas in Miraflores, this is a pedestrian walkway with a string of essentially identical discos. Here, though, you won’t find any pros, and the vibe is almost high-schoolish, with lots of chicks just this side of legal. Flitting from club to club, arm in arm with their friends, they’re usually not too serious about hooking up. Age range: 18-25. If you do go, Bierhaus and Hypnosis generally have the best quality. For live music, La Noche, at the end of the row near the Metropolitano bus station, has a relaxed, bohemian crowd.

8. Sargento Pimienta (Bolognesi 757): On Tuesday nights, the salsa parties at this dance hall are the only game in town. The vibe is friendly and relaxed, but quality is generally uninspiring. Age range: 22-35.

9. Barranco Bar (Parque Butters): On Wednesdays and Sundays, when there’s no cover, this two-story club attracts chicas who are serious about salsa. On Saturdays, it becomes an expensive night gallery for the pituco crowd. Inconsistent, but I’ve met some very hot girls here. Age range: 26-40.

10. Ayahuasca (San Martín 130): This is one of the top lounges in Lima, though it’s not really a place for pick-up. Most of the guests are sitting on couches, and the few girls at the bar are usually older and unimpressive. As a date spot, though, it’s unbeatable. Age range: 30+.

All told, Barranco appears to have more and better options than Miraflores at this moment. And I’ve saved the best for last…


C. CHACARRILLA

Located at the corner of Av. Angamos and Av. Caminos del Inca, in the upscale district of San Borja, the refurbished Centro Comercial Caminos del Inca has become the new mecca for hot pitucas looking to party. In the lines to get in, you’re guaranteed to spot any number of very attractive women, all dressed to the nines as they snap selfies with their manchas (gangs of friends). A bit off the beaten path, but at present it has one of the highest concentrations of talent in the city. Taxis are 10 soles from Miraflores.

1. Mute (4th floor): This is the premier club in the complex, with scores of 7+ women every Saturday. The sheer size of the place guarantees you’ll find at least a couple girls who are receptive, and the vibe is surprisingly friendly given the exclusive image the management tries to cultivate.

The biggest problem is the bouncers. They’re totally arbitrary about who they let in, and the cover charge is whatever random number they decide to pull out of their ass. I’ve gotten in for free many nights; on others they’ve tried to make me pay 50, 100, or even 200 soles (“Everyone has to buy a bottle,” I was told). Arriving before 12 should make entry easier.

If they decide to be dicks, though, don’t worry. There’s no lack of other good places in the same complex.

2. Mia (3rd floor): This place is similar to Mute, but with a younger crowd. Age range: early-late 20s. I’ve met girls from all over Lima here, as the place’s image is less snooty than its upstairs neighbor.

3. Mama Batata (3rd floor): More relaxed atmosphere than the other two places, but with older and less attractive women. The bar area usually has overflow groups of chicks who couldn’t get into Mute or Mia. Age range: 27-40.

If these places don’t do it for you, just walk around to some of the smaller bar/lounges and see what appeals.


D. ELSEWHERE IN THE CITY

Most gringos stick to the three areas listed above because they’re safe. However, if you’re more adventurous, like me, and willing to venture out into sketchier parts of town, nearly every district in Lima has its bulevar where you can find discos and girls from the barrio. Generally, the quality is meh, but there are always a few gems to be dug up. Frequently the local guys will be so amazed to see a gringo in their ‘hood, they’ll gladly introduce you to their amigas.

In all honesty, some of the best nights I’ve had in Lima, I’ve had in joints like the following. And not once did I ever feel unsafe.

1. Club Vocé (Petit Thouars 2161, Lince): This two-story megadisco has a very cool vibe and, occasionally, some hot women. However, unless your salsa skills are strong, don’t go on one of the nights when they have a live show. Check the Facebook page beforehand.

2. Kapital Sur (Los Héroes 232, San Juan de Miraflores): This place is one of the top destinations for the south of Lima, with a largely working-class clientele. Quality is unpredictable, but it’s easy to talk to the hotter girls present. The waitresses are also cute.

3. Banana (Malecón Checa 145, Zárate in San Juan Lurigancho): This disco draws girls from all over San Juan de Lurigancho, Lima’s biggest district. Inevitably there are some hotties among them, but in my experience, the vibe is more closed-off and cliquish than in the previous two places.

This is just a sampling; remember that Lima has almost 10 million people. For more options, don’t hesitate to hit me up.


E. DAYGAME

Finally, if night game isn’t your thing, the following are some fertile hunting grounds for day approaches. Personally, day game isn’t my forte. But if you go indirect and have a good vibe, you can find plenty of good targets, depending on the time of day.

1. Parque Kennedy: This Miraflores mainstay needs no introduction. Abundant peruanitas, at all hours of the day and night. Try also walking up and down Av. Larco and Av. Diagonal after five, when folks are getting off work.

2. Malecón de Miraflores: On weekends, there’s no shortage of chicas walking or rollerblading along the pedestrian walkways of this grassy stretch leading from LarcoMar up the coast to the Miraflores lighthouse.

3. Jockey Plaza (Surco): This is Lima’s premier upscale shopping mall. I’ve picked up a few girls working in shops during the week, when the place is quiet. There are also hot chicks who stand around with clipboards, taking consumer surveys.

4. Plaza Municipal de Barranco: On weekends, this is a top hangout for mixed groups of university-aged students. Also of drug dealers, should you feel the urge.

5. Plaza San Miguel: The district of San Miguel has Lima’s highest concentration of middle-class people, and this mall is a gathering point after work and on weekends. There are frequently cute girls sitting around the central rotunda, as well as in a small park out back.

Once again, this has been an epic-length post, but hopefully it’s been useful for those of you who are new to the city. If you have questions, feel free to PM me.

Peace out...
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^ AxeMan. This is a great datasheet. +1 from me.
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Great post, thank you a lot for the info on the food. Making me wish i booked more days in Lima for my trip in December
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Great sheet. After some googling, it seems like the distance between the three spots you described are around a 15-20 minute drive. Would you recommend staying in Miraflores for the first world amenities and safety, then taking a cab out to the other areas just for the nightlife once a week? That seems doable.

What are you thoughts on that?
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Really helpful sheet, will definitely use while I'm here in Lima. +1 from me.
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San Isidro has always been considered slightly more wealthy than Miraflores. Either way, they border the other.

Just avoid Callao, unless you're wearing pink for the Sport Boys, then you'll be fine.
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Sorry about the links. Here are the correct addresses:

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-59644.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_Peru

And yes, staying in Miraflores and cabbing to the other areas is very doable.
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Your data sheet is so solid I don't need to even axe a question
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Spot on post. I can only add to it by offering advice for the older guys. Otherwise, spectacular post. Was my gospel.

I’ve just spent 2 weeks in Miraflores and I concur with everything you said about Calle de Pizza. It was pretty obviously loaded with pros. The old pub had a few non pros but like you said, they’re desperate to grab a gringo. I took a non pro to my apartment on the first night. She was just okay. 35 years old ex hottie. Obviously there to meet a white guy. I was tired and wanted some low hanging fruit. I actually told her my intent was to get her drunk and take advantage of her...I did. She blew up my phone for the next two weeks and it drove me nuts. Ran into her a few times...kept bugging me...thought we had something. I asked her if she remembered what I told her when we met... claimed she did... obviously not.

I’m around the 50 mark. Fit for my age. I’ve never been delusional about what kind of talent is within my reach so I knew damn well that the smoking hot ones that flirted with me were obviously pros. I had fun chatting with them, but I wanted a girlfriend. (Not knocking pay for play.)

Honestly, if you’re above 40... pipeline pipeline pipeline. If you don’t pipeline, you’ll likely be stuck with pros and/or bricheras exclusively. Especially if it’s a short trip. And if you can’t sit and chat in Spanish only for the entire evening, your odds of hooking up with non-pros drop precipitously. Face it, past a certain age, women are less and less likely to do bar hookups. So if you’re older, day gaming and pipelining are your best friends. Not going home with you that day, but getting dates with hotties that are 15-20 years younger is a piece of cake.

I saw many 40+ gringos making fools of themselves in the bars at night and I think I can help...

1. Pointing this out only because I saw a few of my peers go down in flames...Leave your ball caps, t-shirts and cargo shorts at home. Pack some big boy pants, hard soled shoes/boots and some collared shirts and act like you have a big boy job. Go clean shaven (or neatly trimmed beard). Notice how Peruvian men your age are dressed by day and dress accordingly. Not saying you need to dress pretentiously, just saying that you’re not an 80s/90s college student anymore. Peruvian women don’t want to date a friggin slob any more than American women do. In Peru, men wear t-shirts and cargo shorts because they’re poor. Peruanas are interested in men who have their shit together, NOT in overgrown immature college students.

Seriously ... you’ll be a laughing stock if you’re older and dress down like you are in the corner bar to watch the super bowl in Any Town USA. Both the Peruvians and your fellow gringos are having a laugh at your expense if you show up dressed as an extra on Wayne’s World. (Actually, this advice applies to every city in the world)

2. Spanish. Gotta get some. A whole new world opens up if you can communicate with her in her lengua materna. Not an absolute deal breaker but I honestly did not meet a single woman in a bar who spoke English at a conversational level. We are talking weekend nights during the height of tourist season. So, do something about your language skills.
3. Airbnb- or at least a private apartment. Any place other than a hotel or hostel. You’re more likely to pique interest if it appears you didn’t just show up in town for vacation. I guess you can act like you just arrived and that’s why you’re at the Marriott courtyard...but you need street cred in a short time. A hotel room says you’re leaving shortly.
4. Pipeline. Yes, been said but worth saying again...pipeline. The over 30 Peruana likely has kids and isn’t out on the town hunting for you to sweep her off her feet. She needs a babysitter for the night. Get women in the pipeline and schedule a different date every other night. Make sure you don’t book every night, you need to be able to pencil in any day game women or repeat dates.
5. Early dates. Right after they get off work. Meet for dinner and a couple drinks. Have your out so that you can bail if you have to. If she’s a troll and looks nothing like her pics... you’ve got an early meeting and need to get back to your room by 9. Ditch her and go bar hopping if you have to.
6. Barranco. I agree. Barranco was much better. For so many reasons. Main one is that you’ll meet actual Peruanas who aren’t bicheras and aren’t prostitutes. Very fun. Not many pros running around that I saw. Lots of good conversation there. No bar hook ups in barranco for me, but the quality of woman who wanted to chit chat and make out just for fun was very high. Really was a great time. I set up one date there. 32 year old Venezuelan lawyer. 5’7” DD with a smile to die for. A little extra weight but probably only weighed 140-145. Not bad for 5’7” She was a 3 nighter. First night met in barranco. Next night dinner in miraflores at fancy restaurant... made out with her. 3rd night she cooked for me in my apartment and we fucked all night long. She was an absolute sex machine. Still in touch with her. That’s about it. I’ll post more if I missed anything.
Overall, in 14 nights. Had 6 pipeline dates, 2 day game dates. I made out with at least 12 women while there. Sex with 6 different women-Including one pro from Tequila Rock and the woman from the old pub on the first night.

I could easily have had more sex with my pipeline girls but I didn’t have a good exit strategy worked out. They blew up my phone and friggin stalked me. Got busted walking down the street holding hands with one woman, by a woman I’d been with the night before.

Hindsight...here’s where I blew it... video chat. Video chat, video chat, video chat. Literally 100% of my pipeline girls were not as good looking as their still pictures. Some were heavier and some were photoshopped. (Duh. Yeah. I know) Although, almost all were still above my typical reach here. Ages of my dates varied. Youngest was 29- oldest 48ish.
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What a great post Axe.I have been to Lima 12 times over the years so that should tell everyone something.A single man's paradise.Have not been in 4 yrs though so your update is super helpful.I did hear Barranco Bar on Wed and Sun nights is very good.I have been to Ayahuasca--like u said a great place for a date.Picas is great.I went to Mama Batata when it was in Larcomar.Great place.Will definitely go to It at the new location in San Borja.I went to Banana Club on a Sun night before.Great place to. Just knowing how to dance little salsa and some Spanish is a huge plus obviously but not necessary. Have learned both to a decent degree after many years.I have been in Lima over Halloween a couple times and such fun has never been had.Will be going in late October 2018 for 10 nights. Best post ever Axe. Thank u KC .
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RE: Lima Data Sheet - November 2017
Not really, Peruvian men dress how they dress even if they have money because the culture sees skinny jeans or what's style in the rest of the world as being you know what.

I haven't been back in a few years, but I do hope it's modernized a bit.

Even for a US raised native Limeno, it can be hard to see how regressive the society is. I'm also liberal for the most part (not in the SJW sense lol) but Peru generally prides itself on being as conservative as possible for a western society.

I hope Gareca brings Pizzaro & Butron to the world cup, it would definitely help defy the stereotype.
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RE: Lima Data Sheet - November 2017
I just found out I got accepted for my exchange semester, so i will be spending the entire August until December in Lima! I want to say thanks for this data sheet and incredibly valuable information has been gained!
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I wanted to add I have stayed at the Lighthouse Peru In Miraflores 12 different times.Its really just a big house.3-4 levels with 6-8 different bedrooms.$30-$45 depending on the room.Very nice and always clean.5 minute bus ride or 15 minute walk to Parque Kennedy.Its great for short stays in Lima.For me, up to 5 nights was fine staying in the Lighthouse.They actually cooked breakfast in the am and have a big open patio to have drinks. I have not been to Lima in 4 yrs but going again this October.The times I stayed there it was never a problem bringing a girl back--which is often in Lima. AirBnb is better for longer stays of course.Im going for 10 nights over Halloween so will probably do 5 nights at the Lighthouse and 5 nights at whatever AirBnb apt.Hope this helps. Mad Dog.
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Unfortunately, it seems that Frida has been shut down by authorities http://larepublica.pe/reportero-ciudadan...n-barranco .

There is another large club in Barranco called Dali. However, there are no events lined up on their Facebook. Does someone have intel on this place?

Another the about the climate: Lima currently has almost perfect weather with temperatures ranging from 20-25°C. However, UV radiation levels are dangerously high. Yesterday I've got a major sunburn that doesn't correspond with sun exposure nor temperature. So, please don't forget to pack some sun blockers.
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(02-06-2018 01:47 PM)KCMOMAN Wrote:  Hindsight...here’s where I blew it... video chat. Video chat, video chat, video chat. Literally 100% of my pipeline girls were not as good looking as their still pictures. Some were heavier and some were photoshopped. (Duh. Yeah. I know) Although, almost all were still above my typical reach here. Ages of my dates varied. Youngest was 29- oldest 48ish.

Oh man, that happened to me in Chile recently. Girl online was smoking hot in her photos, said she wanted to make me lunch at her place. I arrived to find a total hog. She'd gained at least seventy pounds. I ate lunch (it was good, hogs can cook) and made polite conversation and eventually said good afternoon and went outside and almost cried with relief when I felt sunlight on my face again. I will ALWAYS video chat from now on.

Funny thing was, she had ASKED me if I wanted to video chat and I turned her down. My fault.
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(03-23-2018 12:14 PM)semibaron Wrote:  Unfortunately, it seems that Frida has been shut down by authorities http://larepublica.pe/reportero-ciudadan...n-barranco .

There is another large club in Barranco called Dali. However, there are no events lined up on their Facebook. Does someone have intel on this place?

Another the about the climate: Lima currently has almost perfect weather with temperatures ranging from 20-25°C. However, UV radiation levels are dangerously high. Yesterday I've got a major sunburn that doesn't correspond with sun exposure nor temperature. So, please don't forget to pack some sun blockers.

Because it's practically on the equator. The cloud cover "Nublina" most of the year, from being west of the Andes, protects from the sun though.
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RE: Lima Data Sheet - November 2017
As there are already a lot of information on Lima and it's still page 1, I will just add some information here.

Gym:
In Miraflores you have basically 2 options: Smartfit and BodyTech. BodyTech is a bit more expensive, but less crowded. The cool thing about SmartFit is their "plan black" subscription, which allows you to visit other gyms of the same chain in other countries. For example there are outlets in Brasil or Mexico.

Sim Card:
The operator is your BITEL has easily the best offer. For 30/50 soles you get the local SIM card + free minutes + 4.5gb/9gb of high speed internet without expiring date. Yes, if you don't need much data, you could go months with it without any recharge.

Night clubs:
As far as I can see, all the hot girls just go to three different clubs. That's it.
1. Lima Bar
2. Barranco Bar
3. Mute (and Mia in the same complex)
As OP has indicated earlier, bouncers can be dicks. I've recommended Mute to two non-Spanish speaking friends and they couldn't make it in. Yesterday I talked to a bunch of gringos in front Lima Bar who have been asked 150 soles to enter. The bouncer asked me the same, but let me in for free when I said in Spanish that they let me in for free two weeks earlier. Spanish might be the key?

Restaurants:
OPs list is already quite extensive, so I will add only one suggestion. If you feel really hungry, the Rustica at Plaza Barranco offers a fine all-you-can-eat buffet for 40 soles (50 at weekend) during lunchtime from 12:40 onwards. Ceviche, Lomo, Anticucho, everything included.

Public transportation:
The rapid bus system "Metropolitano" has lines dedicated to it and is quite cheap. From one end to the other, one ride will first you 2.5 soles. Buses however are usually so crowded that you want to take a taxi. Lunchtime is an exception.

Tap water:
This is a big one. Don't use it for anything, but washing your hands or taking a shower. Not even washing off your vegetables or brushing your teeth. You WILL get nasty diarea from it.

Other activities:
Around Ovalo Gutiérrez is a store called Virtual X. They offer the Ocolus Rift virtual reality experience. We went the with 3 people to play some multiplayer zombie shooter and it's quite cool. From Monday to Fridays they offer unlimited gaming for 50 soles.
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RE: Lima Data Sheet - November 2017
Not much to add, but I thought the Circuito Mágico de Agua was fun. Not too far from Miraflores really but you'll need to take a taxi. A good spot for a date even though any girl that lives in Lima has been there before. Walk around for an hour or so, run through the fountains together in the area where the kids play, grab some anticuchos outside the park to eat after. Can easily kill a couple hours here and the entrance fee I think is something like 4 soles.
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(04-08-2018 11:35 AM)semibaron Wrote:  Tap water:
This is a big one. Don't use it for anything, but washing your hands or taking a shower. Not even washing off your vegetables or brushing your teeth. You WILL get nasty diarea from it.

It's not that bad, on a short trip I would stick to using bottled water for everything yeah, but if you're going to be down here a while you're going to break those rules eventually anyway. And god knows what you're consuming in restaurants.
Might as well get it over with and go all in.

Expose yourself slowly and it's not really a big deal. Start with brushing your teeth with the water, using ice in restaurants, washing fruits etc then work your way up to the next level.

The last month or so I've just been bringing the tap water to a light boil for a half a second, letting it cool down and drinking it. It took a couple weeks but my body is adjusting fast. Pretty soon and I'll be drinking straight out of the tap like a Peruvian.

Spending a dollar or two a day on water adds up after a while on a long term trip.
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RE: Lima Data Sheet - November 2017
What you indicate could make sense for long term trips. For anything shorter than 3 months, I recommend no to take the risk.

I myself had some nasty diarea for 5 days. That were 5 partially wasted days. There is a cost to this to: time, apartment, etc.
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RE: Lima Data Sheet - November 2017
After roughly 5 weeks, I feel entitled to give my final thoughts on Lima.

In a nutshell:
Girls are fine, but as conservative as it gets. Great for a long-term stay. Online girls are far less conservative and the go-to option for short trips. Spanish is required for any serious action outside online game. Although quality of life is quite high, the city and the people living in it are rather boring.

Ok, let's get into detail.

Girls:
It has been said a couple of times, the average Peruvian girl is ugly. You can slay a lot of those little ugly Inca girls. Most guys, however, probably are looking to get a taste of those spanish-looking governor daughters. In principle, every girl with some Spanish blood belongs to the upper social class, is conservative and requires some game. Most of the time you will find yourself dating a girl 3-4 times before she puts out. In contrast to their Colombian counterparts, Peruvianas are shy and much less sexual.

So what do you need to be successful in Lima? I would say, this can be boiled down to 3 main points:
1. The time you are going to stay here
2. Your Spanish
3. Your ability to approach fearless

1. Time:
As already mentioned above, most girls need to be dated a couple of times before being ready to be bedded. The fact that the hot spanish-looking girls belong to the upper class doesn't really help. You know, they actually have things going on in their life: university, family, fotoshootings, work birthday parties and so on. Expect that a girl has time for you two times a week. Finding a nice and receptive girl also requires time. OP doesn't recommend a stay shorter than 4 weeks. I would increase that timeframe even to 6 weeks.

2. Spanish:
Almost all young Spanish-looking girls will either go to university or a dedicated school to learn English. Still, I haven't met a single girl that possessed a sufficient level of English to have a real conversation with. After a few words they pass out. Written English is much better though. What this means is the following, you would need to be really lucky to find a girl during night or daygame that you can talk to in English.

3. Your approaching style.
Peruvian people (both gender), in contrast to Colombians, are not very sexual. While the latter flirt heavily, I haven't seen anyone approaching or saying something basic such as "Hola hermosa" here in Lima. This means girls are not really trained to be sexual and this consequently has serious implications on how you have to behave. In Lima, you have to be very active get into contact. I will illustrate this. In Colombia you can be passive and just demonstrate your high value and a girl who is interested will make it very obvious that she likes you. She will sit next to you, play with her hair, look you deep in the eyes, maybe even touch you. You would be an idiot not to notice what's going on. There is nothing like that in Peru. It's either approach or jerk off alone at home.p

So we've looked into the 3 main points you need to have success in Lima. If you do lack any one of those the 3 points, the best option for you is online.

Tinder:
We all love statistics, so here are some. In order to secure a bang as soon as I arrive in Lima, I pipelined through Tinder Plus. With the help of the free boost, I got 99+ people that liked me (you know, the number in the yellow circle). That's the best I've seen after SEA. As I'm not a big fan of online, I got 2 girls of it and deleted my account. Both were straight meet in the park and go to the apartment dates. So online might be the perfect solution if you lack one of the 3 things required to go offline. Girls know sufficient English to WRITE, are far less conservative and you can pipeline in advance. Just be aware, like everywhere else, you won't get top shelf quality here.

Daygame:
I didn't find a good spot actually. Sure, there is Parque Kennedy in Miraflores, but I haven't been impressed by the quality to be honest. Hot girls can be encountered everywhere in the city, there isn't really a hot spot. My recommendation: Approach on sight. What I mean is, do your thing why you are outside and approach on the way to the gym, while shopping or when on the way to the restaurant. I picked up my current girl on the beach in Barranco.

Nightlife:
To set expectations right from the beginning, Nightlife in Lima isn't about ONS, but about having fun and getting numbers. Feel lucky in case you got the makeout with a true hot chick. Nightlife still is the best way to meet with good looking girls. There is no substitute. My researched yielded 4 good options:
1. Lima Bar in Larcomar: Formerly known as "Gótica", Lima Bar probably is Lima's largest and most upscale nightclub. It's also the only real option if you aren't into dancing. Inside the club are 3 different bar areas and a large outdoor terrace to smoke. Also there isn't a dedicated dancefloor, so people are standing, which makes it optimal for speech heavy game. Personally I don't like the club at all as there are a lot of private VIP zones. Bouncers can be dicks, read my previous post.
2. Barranco Bar at Plaza Butters: Nothing much to say about. By far the best option in Barranco. Very crowded. Entrance 50 soles.
3. Mute in Chacarilla: OP said already everything. My favourite out of the bunch. Not to crowded, good vibe, actually friendly bouncers (still read my previous post) and the hottest approachable girls. The distance to Miraflores is a negative point though. You will almost for sure not pull a girl home from here.
4. Tumbao VIP/ Ginza in Calle Bellavista: Heavily underated and in my eyes the second best option in town. Also the only place I pulled ONS (2) from. Tumbao/Ginza definitely isn't a high end place like the other options. You will find the most foreigners and the average quality will be way lower. Still there are always girls as hot as in the other places. On the contrary, the place has a lot going on for it. First, it's not a high-end place, so competition is a joke. Second, there aren't as many zoned off VIP areas. Third, there is always a trashy, but very friendly vibe and girls have their bitch shield down. Furthermore, you will meet more lower to middle class girls, who might be down for ONS.

Final thoughts:
I've been in Lima now for a bit less than 5 weeks and will be here another week before heading to Mexiko.
Did I enjoy it? Yes, a lot indeed. 6 weeks are a bit short though, as I'm now about to reap the benefits of my labor.
Would I return? Maybe. As I said, I really enjoyed it, but the place is lacking the addicting sexual and open culture Colombia has. It's more like México, but with boring and unfriendly people. At daytime, I rarely see somebody smile. So, I'm undecided but I'm leaning towards a NO.
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Lima is sounding like a good option for a 6’3 African American guy with a style that leans preppy/hipster.

Thanks for the helpful data sheet.
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Mace, stay at the Loki hostel. Easily will get laid with the non-Peruvians visiting. My boy is black and he had a sore dick from all the fucking
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Hitting Lima in a few days, just want to say a huge thanks for all the info in here - genuinely appreciated gents.
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Also be careful with dairy. Much of it isn't pasteurized and if your body isn't used to that...you will find out the hard way.
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