Read The Forum Rules: We have a clear set of rules to keep the forum running smoothly. Click here to review them.

Post Reply 
The GOP Civil War
Author Message
Samseau Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 13,749
Joined: Mar 2010
Reputation: 277
Post: #1
The GOP Civil War
After Bannon left the White House, he has declared war on the GOP with an effort to primary out incumbent Bush-style Republicans and replace them with MAGA style Republicans.

This thread will document the drama and results of his efforts. Will Bannon succeed? Will the establishment strike back and hold on? Will the establishment kill their own party before letting the people take it back?

The GOP has been controlled opposition to the ruling party, the Democrat party, for decades. Not once in the past 50 years has the GOP led on anything, except to manage money more efficiently for the owner class. The Dems have had the final say on anything affecting the common man, however, from immigration, to job-killing trade deals, to marriage laws, abortion, education, media, sports, etc.

Bannon wants to change that and make the GOP the ruling party. If successful, it will be the greatest change to American politics since FDR.

Contributor at Return of Kings. You can follow me on Twitter.
11-14-2017 10:09 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 20 users Like Samseau's post:
Prufrock, Canopus, Renzy, DJ-Matt, Dismal Operator, Menace, nomadbrah, Handsome Creepy Eel, RoastBeefCurtains4Me, Emancipator, TigOlBitties, spokepoker, MKE-Ed, username, TooFineAPoint, SlickyBoy, Matrixdude, NomadofEU, Tytalus, Isaac Jordan
Buck Wild Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 220
Joined: Jan 2016
Reputation: 1
Post: #2
RE: The GOP Civil War
11-14-2017 10:19 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 11 users Like Buck Wild's post:
RougeNoir, Handsome Creepy Eel, MKE-Ed, spokepoker, Super_Fire, Samseau, TooFineAPoint, durangotang, SlickyBoy, Matrixdude, Tytalus
RexImperator Offline
International Playboy
******
Gold Member

Posts: 4,728
Joined: May 2013
Reputation: 25
Post: #3
RE: The GOP Civil War
I approve of this thread... Much of the GOP base actually despises the party establishment and leadership.

The cucks have not given up by any means, as seen by the efforts to stop Roy Moore.

"If you will it, Dude, it is no dream."
Deus vult omnes homines salvos fieri
11-14-2017 10:21 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like RexImperator's post:
911, spokepoker
Samseau Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 13,749
Joined: Mar 2010
Reputation: 277
Post: #4
RE: The GOP Civil War
The first chapter of this saga started with the primary for Jeff Session's Alabama Senate seat between Luther Strange, the establishment pick, and Roy Moore, the renegade judge and people's champ.

Strange lost by 10% in the primary, so now the GOP has determined they would rather see Roy Moore lose to the Democrat in Alabama than give up the seat to a Bannon backed people's candidate.

The GOPe are the ones behind the sexual abuse allegations to Roy Moore. The GOPe is closely connected to WaPo (they started the story) because the GOPe takes massive bribes from the free trade wing of the Chamber of Commerce (the CoC). Jeff Bezos enforces the free trade graft system through the WaPo, which has been his blog for years. The GOPe would rather destroy the Republican party and the USA before losing access to the free trade slave system of spoils.

The Dems are mostly ambivalent because they are more concerned with power than money, but will easily push free trade if it means huge campaign donations. Most Dems are too stupid to understand why free trade is killing America, and only care about getting their welfare checks or big government contracts.

Since racism is no longer an effective tool to discredit politicians, they are instead resorting to sexual abuse claims instead. With minors, even better. Moreover, the GOPe knows that racism is something that can be turned against them (especially since the GOPe is 90% White, and the CoC is 100% White). That's how I know the allegations against Roy Moore are from the GOPe. What is happening now is no different than the sexual assault claims against Trump a month before the election, or the allegations against Justice Clarence Thomas, or Ted Cruz in the primaries. If it was from the Dems, there would be a racial angle.

Right now the GOPe has been totally concerted in an effort to either get Roy Moore to step down, or see him lose, with the flimsiest of allegations from women over 40 years ago.

Obviously, you'd have to be retarded to believe in claims over 40 years ago (most people cannot remember clearly things that happened even 20 years ago) but the GOPe is hoping they can sway enough retards to make a difference and sink Roy Moore. It may actually be enough.

PredictIt has intense activity on this race right now: https://www.predictit.org/Market/3299/Wh...in-Alabama

Doug Jones slightly ahead, but PredictIt is wrong plenty of times.

There are only two allegations that are serious. One of them is a 14-year old girl reporting sexual assault, but her story makes no sense. More importantly, both her and her mother have conflicting details of the story: http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2017/...uct-story/

The mother said there was no phone in the 14-year old's room. So the idea that Roy Moore phoned a 14-year old girl without anyone in the house knowing is basically impossible. Whole story reeks of bullshit.

The next allegation is from Beverly Young Nelson, who claims when she was 16-years old Moore kidnapped her as a waitress and sexually assaulted her in his car behind a restaurant. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/...ia-allred/
Again, her story makes no sense and reads like a cheap Hollywood film plot. Roy Moore speeding off with burning rubber was especially funny to me.

All of the effort to sink Moore smacks of GOPe collusion because of how all the Republicans came out, right on que, to denounce him. Zero consideration of whether or not the allegations were true or not, just straight to denunciations from faggot hypocrites like Mitt Romney and Bitch McConnell. Ted Cruz held out a bit at first, but quickly caved once enough Senators joined in.

Doug Jones is obviously in on the scheme and has been making ads in preparation for this smear campaign:


If the people of Alabama do not see through this patent bullshit, it will be a dark day for America. But if they stand strong against the lies it will be yet another death blow against the GOPe and a fighting chance to save America. The MAGA movement needs this Senate seat badly due to the fine balance of power there.

Contributor at Return of Kings. You can follow me on Twitter.
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2017 10:42 AM by Samseau.)
11-14-2017 10:40 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 13 users Like Samseau's post:
DJ-Matt, cato, MikeInRealLife, Dismal Operator, C-Note, Handsome Creepy Eel, Ocelot, MMX2010, Emancipator, TigOlBitties, Transsimian, Renzy, SlickyBoy
SirTimothy Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 558
Joined: Jan 2015
Reputation: 7
Post: #5
RE: The GOP Civil War
Slightly disappointed in Sessions:

Quote:Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Tuesday that “I have no reason to doubt” the women who allege that GOP Alabama senate candidate Roy Moore sexually harassed or assaulted them when they were minors.

But he stopped short of saying that the embattled Moore should step aside.

“I would say … that the ethics people at the Department of Justice, and I talked to them about that when this campaign started, it’s the seat I used to hold, they advised me that the attorney general should not be involved in this campaign,” he said.

Under aggressive questioning from Texas Democratic Rep. Barbara Jackson Lee, he also wold not say whether the Justice Department would investigate Moore for alleged sex crimes.

“We will evaluate every case as to whether or not it should be investigated. This kind of case would normally be a state case,” he said.

Moore is facing off against Democrat Doug Jones in a Dec. 12 special election to fill Sessions former senate seat in the Cotton State.

http://nypost.com/2017/11/14/jeff-sessio...-accusers/
11-14-2017 11:49 AM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes SirTimothy's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel
Neo Offline
Alpha Male
****
Gold Member

Posts: 1,056
Joined: Nov 2010
Reputation: 16
Post: #6
RE: The GOP Civil War
I think Bannon has a shot of taking out several traitors.

Is there any REAL evidence against Moore? The only 'evidence' I found was that one of the women produced a HS yearbook signed by him. So what?

I'm in the camp that IF the allegations are true he should step aside and face the music.

However, I smell bullshit. From a cursory review, it seems that two accusers worked for the Dems. Also the typical fake news outlets are going crazy covering the story with clear propaganda, which adds to the BS theory.

The timing is also suspicious. So they keep everything to themselves for 40 years then all of sudden a month before the most important election of his life they come forward. Please.
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2017 12:54 PM by Neo.)
11-14-2017 12:53 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 4 users Like Neo's post:
MikeInRealLife, Handsome Creepy Eel, SlickyBoy, Prince Machiavelli
Samseau Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 13,749
Joined: Mar 2010
Reputation: 277
Post: #7
RE: The GOP Civil War
Quote:Is there any REAL evidence against Moore? The only 'evidence' I found was that one of the women produced a HS yearbook signed by him. So what?

In fact, looks forged to me. Where are other examples of Moore's handwriting?

Contributor at Return of Kings. You can follow me on Twitter.
11-14-2017 01:09 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Libertas Offline
International Playboy
******
Gold Member

Posts: 3,869
Joined: Sep 2013
Reputation: 81
Post: #8
RE: The GOP Civil War
I'm surprised the Roy Moore stuff hasn't gotten much more scrutiny here.

The allegation about the inappropriate touching on minors is a very, very serious charge. I separate this one from other parts of this case.

But the thing is, some other of these women were of legal age. There was a big uproar about him dating 17 and 18 year olds, but the age of consent in Alabama is 16. Note that the allegations weren't, as far as I now know, for assault or any other crime like that, but merely dating them, which should send warnings to men everywhere with the way so many people reacted.

He did an interview with Hannity last week and the funny thing is, I think he's full of shit and that he actually did date these 17 and 18 year olds. But the thing is...that's not a crime. Acting so holier than thou over this is a clear message to men everywhere to stay in your lane. It's a further sign of the increasing sexual puritanism at least as far as heterosexual sex goes. The culture grows more prurient with non-heterosexual sex.

It all raises an interesting question - when do you start treating women like adults, or are they always dainty robots that can't do anything on their own? But wait a minute, I thought that was against the very idea of feminism!

The denials about the 14 year old in question, and recently the assault on the 16 year old which are the only allegations that actually matter (and don't kid yourself, they matter a lot) as far as I can tell at this point. Funny thing is, the denials there were very clear. No ambiguous language that lets him get out of being caught red handed like the 17 or 18 year olds in question.

I hope Bannon put up more of a fight for Mo Brooks because that's who I really wanted here. We can thank the cucks for getting him out.

Read my Latest at Return of Kings: 11 Lessons in Leadership from Julius Caesar
My Blog | Twitter
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2017 01:56 PM by Libertas.)
11-14-2017 01:55 PM
Visit this user's website Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 4 users Like Libertas's post:
Jvramerys, Samseau, SlickyBoy, Matrixdude
Menace Offline
International Playboy
******
Gold Member

Posts: 4,066
Joined: Sep 2010
Reputation: 56
Post: #9
RE: The GOP Civil War
The GOP is worse than the Democrats because at least the Democrats are the ostensible opposition and they actually try to make things happen. The GOP is supposed to be conservative, but they are absolutely not. They have given up, or actually believe in, the culture shaped by Democrats. They don't care about the working class (of any color), and they have absolutely no killer instinct EXCEPT to protect the status quo. They will go to the mats for that. Why?

Because that's how they want DC to work, as it has "worked" for many years. It doesn't really matter (to them) who's in power. If it's GOP, then great, easier to get "contributions" to advance their anti-American globalist agenda (well that's Dems too). If Dems in power, that's ALSO great. Because then they can get contributions to defeat those nasty Dems so they can get back into power. Meanwhile, they leave politics and go to work for lobbying groups and law firms, and there is always a need to have contacts with either the party in power or the opposition. It's a no-lose proposition basically.

That's why they fight Trump so hard. They have a nice racket going, and it is hard to make a man understand something when his paycheck/access to power depends on him not understanding it. I will quote the late, great General Smedley Butler on what a racket is (although his definition is in the context of a war, it applies here as well):

"A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many."

Sounds familiar, right?
11-14-2017 02:02 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 9 users Like Menace's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel, DJ-Matt, Buck Wild, TigOlBitties, Jvramerys, Samseau, SlickyBoy, Matrixdude, Prince Machiavelli
Arado Offline
Wingman
***
Gold Member

Posts: 641
Joined: Aug 2009
Reputation: 17
Post: #10
RE: The GOP Civil War
This thread would benefit if we clearly defined the key policy issues that divide the establishment GOP from the Bannon right. This allows us to avoid getting bogged down in personality cults and he said/she said scandals.

So far I have as areas of disagreement: multilateral trade deals, immigration/amnesty/wall, foreign interventions, Obamacare repeal, relationship with Russia, gay/trans rights/feminism, need to regulate tech monopolies, Islam in general.

I don't see that much difference between the establishment and alt-right on other important issues such as: partnering with Saudi Arabia/isolating Iran, NK conflict, China, tax cuts, getting rid of regulations, opposing caps on emissions, increasing military spending, the use of torture, spying/civil liberties/patriot act, federal debt.
11-14-2017 02:18 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 4 users Like Arado's post:
911, Handsome Creepy Eel, RoastBeefCurtains4Me, Samseau
Jetset Online
Wingman
***

Posts: 962
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 23
Post: #11
RE: The GOP Civil War
(11-14-2017 01:55 PM)Libertas Wrote:  The denials about the 14 year old in question, and recently the assault on the 16 year old which are the only allegations that actually matter (and don't kid yourself, they matter a lot) as far as I can tell at this point. Funny thing is, the denials there were very clear. No ambiguous language that lets him get out of being caught red handed like the 17 or 18 year olds in question.

Today's news about him being well-known to mall security guards and routinely chased away from stores ffor hanging around by himself on Friday and Saturday nights pestering high school girls won't help him, either.

http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11...res_b.html

For better or worse, this is an election. Even if it's "technically not a crime", it still matters, and the Alabama party organization has handled it very badly.

"He always wanted to drift forever, but through the American Southwest."
11-14-2017 02:59 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes Jetset's post:
Buck Wild
stugatz Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 571
Joined: May 2016
Reputation: 4
Post: #12
RE: The GOP Civil War
I'm a little worried here, mainly because he tried being coy about dating the girls that were of legal age. Maybe he was worried about how hitting on teenagers would have come across to the Evangelical crowd?

How far are the swamp Republicans and lefties willing to go here? Is ANY right-wing upstart going to be next, or only some of them? I'd think that the public would be smart enough to catch on if each and every Bannon-backed right-winger is suddenly a pervert. A little too convenient.
11-14-2017 03:50 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like stugatz's post:
Samseau, SlickyBoy
redonion Offline
Chubby Chaser
**

Posts: 287
Joined: Nov 2013
Reputation: 3
Post: #13
RE: The GOP Civil War
Samseau, I wouldn't look too much into PredictIt. It's a lefty cesspool that, like MSM polls, was very wrong about the 2016 election. You can make money on that site by being a smart free thinker like most of the posters here, but their fees make it tough to make any good money.

I still think Moore wins bigly. For every retard you have that laps up these allegations, I bet there are 10 people who are more resolved to vote as they start thinking to themselves, "You know, I'm really getting sick and tired of being told what to do."
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2017 05:14 PM by redonion.)
11-14-2017 05:14 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes redonion's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel
Enoch Offline
True Player
*****

Posts: 1,500
Joined: Nov 2015
Reputation: 11
Post: #14
RE: The GOP Civil War
(11-14-2017 01:55 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I'm surprised the Roy Moore stuff hasn't gotten much more scrutiny here.

The allegation about the inappropriate touching on minors is a very, very serious charge. I separate this one from other parts of this case.

But the thing is, some other of these women were of legal age. There was a big uproar about him dating 17 and 18 year olds, but the age of consent in Alabama is 16. Note that the allegations weren't, as far as I now know, for assault or any other crime like that, but merely dating them, which should send warnings to men everywhere with the way so many people reacted.

He did an interview with Hannity last week and the funny thing is, I think he's full of shit and that he actually did date these 17 and 18 year olds. But the thing is...that's not a crime. Acting so holier than thou over this is a clear message to men everywhere to stay in your lane. It's a further sign of the increasing sexual puritanism at least as far as heterosexual sex goes. The culture grows more prurient with non-heterosexual sex.

It all raises an interesting question - when do you start treating women like adults, or are they always dainty robots that can't do anything on their own? But wait a minute, I thought that was against the very idea of feminism!

The denials about the 14 year old in question, and recently the assault on the 16 year old which are the only allegations that actually matter (and don't kid yourself, they matter a lot) as far as I can tell at this point. Funny thing is, the denials there were very clear. No ambiguous language that lets him get out of being caught red handed like the 17 or 18 year olds in question.

I hope Bannon put up more of a fight for Mo Brooks because that's who I really wanted here. We can thank the cucks for getting him out.

I didn't realize age of consent was a state issue. Looks like I'm moving.
11-14-2017 05:35 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Number one bummer Offline
Chubby Chaser
**
Gold Member

Posts: 480
Joined: Dec 2016
Reputation: 5
Post: #15
RE: The GOP Civil War
(11-14-2017 01:55 PM)Libertas Wrote:  I'm surprised the Roy Moore stuff hasn't gotten much more scrutiny here.

The allegation about the inappropriate touching on minors is a very, very serious charge. I separate this one from other parts of this case.

But the thing is, some other of these women were of legal age. There was a big uproar about him dating 17 and 18 year olds, but the age of consent in Alabama is 16. Note that the allegations weren't, as far as I now know, for assault or any other crime like that, but merely dating them, which should send warnings to men everywhere with the way so many people reacted.

This Moore thing is a bunch of bullshit. It's a hit job of the highest order and plain fake news.

If you think Trump can make the left delusional just let Moore into the senate and see what happens. Moore is a believer of moral law, a mix of divine command theory and natural law theory. Moore doesn't want faggots spreading degeneracy(like 5 year olds trannies) and doesn't want abortions. He believes rights come from God and that there are moral truths, the antithesis to the lefts secular beliefs. Moore is the boogy man that the left tried to claim Trump is in regards to certain social issues. I can respect him for the fact he told higher courts to go fuck themselves when they gave unjust decisions with illegal actions.

The media and left wants to make it appear that Moore was some crazed successful day gamer, surely his wife must have been some barely 18 year old virgin when they got married right? Wrong, she was a 24 year old single mom that he met at a bible study. Granted marrying a single mother in the 1980's wasn't the risk that it is today, but does this really sound like the end result of a successful day gamer?

My theory is they stooges were paid to make up 40 year old accusations that can't and won't be criminally investigated.

The clean christian candidate being a secret perv is a fantasy that hollywierds and soyfags use to jack off into plotted plants.

You couldn't have thought up a more stereotypical "scandal." If anything, this is the downside to the hollywood accusations. The media is spinning it that the pedo/faggot/rapist/tranny degeneracy in indicative to US culture as a whole. Therefore any claim should be enough to destroy someones life. Middle America has Weaponized Accusations for the left while the left cleaned house in some of hollywood.

Roosh Wrote:I wanted to legalize vaping.
11-14-2017 05:36 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 8 users Like Number one bummer's post:
Enoch, Robert High Hawk, kbell, DJ-Matt, Renzy, Samseau, Handsome Creepy Eel, Matrixdude
Enoch Offline
True Player
*****

Posts: 1,500
Joined: Nov 2015
Reputation: 11
Post: #16
RE: The GOP Civil War
^ Sadly I have yet to hear any politician state two of the fundamental pillars of our legal system.

1. Innocent until proven guilty
2. Burden of proof is on the accuser
11-14-2017 05:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Jetset Online
Wingman
***

Posts: 962
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 23
Post: #17
RE: The GOP Civil War
(11-14-2017 05:36 PM)Number one bummer Wrote:  Granted marrying a single mother in the 1980's wasn't the risk that it is today, but does this really sound like the end result of a successful day gamer?

I don't think anybody's saying he was particularly successful. The latest seems to be that he was on the radar of local police because he creeped young girls right the fuck out.

It wouldn't surprise me if someone was put up to making a wild accusation in order to bring the merely weird truth to the surface (although the only source claiming anyone was paid appears to be a foreign shill account of a fake veteran that has deleted everything since being publicly called out).

The fact that it worked, though, is the problem.

Quote:The clean christian candidate being a secret perv is a fantasy that hollywierds and soyfags use to jack off into plotted plants.

Look, I grew up in the mid-South. I spent plenty of time around evangelicals, and there was a strong class divide about this kind of behavior that follows entire families by reputation alone. In Moore's mind, he likely doesn't see himself as a secret perv. He's a known associate of a strain of that movement that doesn't see anything odd about this, and more conventional people tend to treat them politely but keep them at arm's length.

My suspicion is that this was a calculated hit to shine a light on this for the more mainstream family values crowd, who would be inclined to meet a 30-year-old trying to pick up their 16-year-old daughter with a shotgun and trespass him off the property, legal or not.

Little Betsy's supposed to go to the prom with a quarterback, not a lawyer with crow's feet and salt-and-pepper in his sideburns, and you'll be God damned if you're going to have this guy coming and going, starting gossip in town branding your house as one of "those" families. Marking Moore as someone who you wouldn't really want coming over for dinner is enough in some of those communities.

This is a cultural thing that might not be obvious to people in the Rust Belt or California. "Roy Moore: Rapist" probably won't stick. "Roy Moore: Trash"? Maybe. We'll see.

"He always wanted to drift forever, but through the American Southwest."
(This post was last modified: 11-14-2017 06:54 PM by Jetset.)
11-14-2017 06:47 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like Jetset's post:
C-Note, Handsome Creepy Eel
Samseau Offline
Innovative Casanova
*******
Gold Member

Posts: 13,749
Joined: Mar 2010
Reputation: 277
Post: #18
RE: The GOP Civil War
The hits keep coming:

RNC cuts off Moore

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/1...ore-244904

Quote:The Republican National Committee is withdrawing its support for besieged Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, leaving him increasingly isolated as he confronts charges of sexual misconduct with teenagers.

The RNC is pulling out of a joint fundraising agreement it had with Moore, according to a senior party official briefed on the decision. It is also canceling a field program it had set up ahead of the state’s Dec. 12 special election. The committee had about a dozen paid canvassers in Alabama working for Moore. It will no longer transfer any money to the race.

Even before allegations surfaced against Moore, the committee believed he was in trouble. Internal RNC polling conducted around a week ago showed him leading his Democratic opponent by just two percentage points. The committee has been evaluating its options about what to do about Moore over the last few days.

The move comes as the party intensifies its effort to pressure Moore out of the race. On Monday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell called on the candidate to “step aside.” McConnell also said he believed the accounts of Moore’s female accusers, who told the Washington Post that Moore pursued them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s.

He's leading by two points, better cut off funding! tard

Contributor at Return of Kings. You can follow me on Twitter.
11-15-2017 01:13 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like Samseau's post:
spokepoker, Handsome Creepy Eel, Buck Wild
ivansirko Online
Wingman
***

Posts: 878
Joined: Apr 2016
Reputation: 2
Post: #19
RE: The GOP Civil War
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017...ters_.html

Quote:« Karl Lagerfeld wrecks Angela Merkel's virtue-signaling narrative on migrants | Drip, drip: Bill Clinton's reckoning nears »
Share ||| 365 Comments | Print |
November 14, 2017
Who planted the Roy Moore story on Washington Post reporters?
By Jack Hellner
I have no idea whether the stories about Roy Moore are true or not, but neither do the Washington Post reporters and all the other reporters who just repeat the unverified story with no investigation. Forty-year-old allegations are especially hard to disprove.

I find it odd that this story came up after the primary and after decades of service by Roy Moore. Why did the Washington Post reporters wait until after no one else could be put on the ballot to run a 40-year-old story? Isn't it also strange that a supposed sexual predator would have all of a sudden quit going after young girls 40 years ago? Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, and Bill Clinton never quit. Clinton couldn't control himself even when he was in the White House.

Who gave the reporters the story? They certainly didn't come up with the story on their own, and the women didn't come to them, so how did they get it? Did the Democratic National Committee funnel money to a law firm so it could pay someone like Fusion GPS to come up with this?

We know from DNC emails last year that there was a stable of reporters Democrats could plant stories with and that they would print the stories with few questions asked. We also know from Ben Rhodes at the White House that the Obama administration could plant false stories on the Iran deal with reporters that they would run with no questions asked. So who planted the story?

The Roy Moore story has a familiar ring and methodology to it.

In 2004, Dan Rather ran the story with forged documents trying to take out Bush. Print and network reporters did not call him out. Some people on the internet did.

In 2008, the New York Times endorsed McCain in the primary. After Romney was taken out, the Times ran a false front-page story on an old McCain affair with a lobbyist. Why would the NYT endorse McCain when it had this story, and why did it wait until after McCain was the nominee to try to take him out with a false story? My guess is that the Times knew that McCain was easier to beat than Romney.

In 2012, Harry Reid stood on the Senate floor and lied that Romney had not paid taxes for ten years. Instead of reporters making Reid prove that, they went after Romney. After the election, Reid was asked if he felt bad about lying. He said, We won, didn't we? Obviously, truth and integrity were never important; winning was. Reporters also came up with an almost fifty-year-old story where Romney supposedly bullied a kid in high school and cut his hair.

In 2016 is the most egregious example of all. The DNC, Hillary, and Obama funneled over $12 million to a law firm (to hide the payment) so the law firm could pay Fusion to create a fictional story about Trump. This fictional story has been used as an excuse to spy, unmask, endlessly investigate, and continually report the fictional collusion story.

Instead of reporting much on the dangerous Russia uranium story with massive kickbacks and collusion, on the despicable creation of the dossier, on Hillary's rigging of elections and violating campaign laws, the networks and print reporters have wall-to-wall coverage of an unverified story to take out a Republican.

In summary, reporters and other Democrats show they don't care much about the nation's security or laws, or they never would have supported Hillary. They don't care about equal justice, or they would never have supported Hillary. They don't care about an independent Justice Department, or they would have gone after FBI director James Comey and Attorney General Loretta Lynch for their pretend investigation of Hillary. They don't care about illegal spying as long as it is spying on people associated with Trump. They don't care about Russia, or they would be all over the Russia uranium deal. They don't care about campaign finance rules or spending limits, or they would go after Hillary and the DNC for the obvious violations in 2015 and 2016. They don't care about the rigging of elections. And they certainly don't care much about the abuse of women, or they would never have advocated putting Bill and Hillary back in the White House.

Reporters and other Democrats care about one thing and one thing alone, and that is the defeat of Republicans. It really does not matter what they have to do to achieve that. They willingly will destroy anyone who gets in their way, and that is a true shame. It is a shame that so many Republicans go along. The swamp is deep.
11-15-2017 07:53 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like ivansirko's post:
Renzy, Handsome Creepy Eel, Tytalus
C-Note Offline
True Player
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 1,589
Joined: Jul 2015
Reputation: 14
Post: #20
RE: The GOP Civil War
Looks like Moore will refuse to drop out of the race. If it's too late to replace him with another Republican, then why doesn't the party want to let it go the distance? They don't have to fund him, but otherwise just shut up about it. On CBS News this morning they were saying that McConnell is going to ask President Trump to intervene.
11-15-2017 09:06 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 1 user Likes C-Note's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel
dasher Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 166
Joined: Sep 2012
Reputation: 9
Post: #21
RE: The GOP Civil War
(11-15-2017 09:06 AM)C-Note Wrote:  Looks like Moore will refuse to drop out of the race. If it's too late to replace him with another Republican, then why doesn't the party want to let it go the distance? They don't have to fund him, but otherwise just shut up about it. On CBS News this morning they were saying that McConnell is going to ask President Trump to intervene.

We call them cucks for a reason.
11-15-2017 09:38 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 9 users Like dasher's post:
Handsome Creepy Eel, Renzy, DJ-Matt, spokepoker, Samseau, username, Matrixdude, Prince Machiavelli, Tytalus
MOVSM Offline
Alpha Male
****
Gold Member

Posts: 1,093
Joined: Aug 2016
Reputation: 15
Post: #22
RE: The GOP Civil War
GOPe is scorching the earth:

RNC cuts off Moore

Quote:The RNC is pulling out of a joint fundraising agreement it had with Moore, according to a senior party official briefed on the decision. It is also canceling a field program it had set up ahead of the state’s Dec. 12 special election. The committee had about a dozen paid canvassers in Alabama working for Moore. It will no longer transfer any money to the race.

Even before allegations surfaced against Moore, the committee believed he was in trouble. Internal RNC polling conducted around a week ago showed him leading his Democratic opponent by just two percentage points. The committee has been evaluating its options about what to do about Moore over the last few days.

The move comes as the party intensifies its effort to pressure Moore out of the race. On Monday, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell called on the candidate to “step aside.” McConnell also said he believed the accounts of Moore’s female accusers, who told the Washington Post that Moore pursued them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s.


And then there's this: Stepson of Roy Moore Accuser Says She’s LYING – ‘I STAND BEHIND THE JUDGE 100%’ (VIDEO)


[Image: Screen-Shot-2017-11-15-at-8.00.51-AM-600x433.png]

I am afraid that women appreciate cruelty, downright cruelty, more than anything else. They have wonderfully primitive instincts. We have emancipated them, but they remain slaves looking for their masters all the same. They love being dominated.
--Oscar Wilde
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2017 10:07 AM by MOVSM.)
11-15-2017 09:58 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 3 users Like MOVSM's post:
C-Note, Samseau, spokepoker
heavy Offline
True Player
*****
Gold Member

Posts: 2,183
Joined: Sep 2013
Reputation: 32
Post: #23
RE: The GOP Civil War
(11-14-2017 01:55 PM)Libertas Wrote:  ...
But the thing is, some other of these women were of legal age. There was a big uproar about him dating 17 and 18 year olds, but the age of consent in Alabama is 16. Note that the allegations weren't, as far as I now know, for assault or any other crime like that, but merely dating them, which should send warnings to men everywhere with the way so many people reacted.

He did an interview with Hannity last week and the funny thing is, I think he's full of shit and that he actually did date these 17 and 18 year olds. But the thing is...that's not a crime. Acting so holier than thou over this is a clear message to men everywhere to stay in your lane. It's a further sign of the increasing sexual puritanism at least as far as heterosexual sex goes. The culture grows more prurient with non-heterosexual sex.
...

Good stuff there. Part of the feminine imperative is and always has been outward directed puritanism. It's 20 something and up women saying it's gross and awful and terrible to even date a young woman as an older man. Forget the fact that as a high school freshman they dated a college boy.

What's funny is, the women I know who are great wives and moms (1) didn't date way up in age when they were younger, and (2) wouldn't give two shits about another woman dating up in age.

This is how a conversation about the topic would go between me and my sister in law or one of my friends' wives. It's theoretical, because they're all too busy shaping young lives instead of worrying about boring politics, but let's play it out:
Me: What you think about Roy Moore?
Sister in law: Who? (then to her kid) Oh, Brady don't eat that!
Me: The politician who had relationships with 17-18 year olds as an older man.
Sister in law: (furrow brow) Weird. That's kinda gross. (thoughts of being 18 and basically having relationship with guy who could be dad)
Me: Yeah, strange. I could relate to a certain age difference, but as a mid-30s guy, seems weird to have a relationship with a high schooler.
Sister in law: Right, I agr---....Brady, I told you don't eat that!

That same conversation with a woman without kids and with no real plans to have kids would be about how he and all men "shouldn't" do that. He's awful and gross and should die or go to prison, especially if there are **multiple** women with allegations. It's awful. In fact, the federal age of consent should be 18 and out of high school.

Why? Because they don't want their little daughters to be taken advantage of like they were. They don't want their little man to grow up and be doing weird things like dating way down in age. These are normal thoughts to have about your children who you just want to grow up and have a nice happy "normal" life, but not logical thoughts to have about who to and not to throw in prison.

What's interesting is how liberals are always looking for cultural reasons for things, and there are few things more culturally determined than age differences among men and women.

"Russell Brand is a stupid persons idea of what a smart person is." - some youtube commenter
11-15-2017 10:16 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
Jetset Online
Wingman
***

Posts: 962
Joined: Jan 2017
Reputation: 23
Post: #24
RE: The GOP Civil War
Enjoyable:

http://wkrg.com/2017/11/14/curious-roboc...-on-moore/

Quote:Another development involving the U.S. Senate race in Alabama. At least one person in our viewing area received a robocall seeking more damaging information about Roy Moore. Here is the text of that voicemail message received by Pastor Al Moore in Creola.

“Hi, this is Bernie Bernstein, I’m a reporter for the Washington Post calling to find out if anyone at this address is a female between the ages of 54 to 57 years old willing to make damaging remarks about candidate Roy Moore for a reward of between $5000 and $7000 dollars. We will not be fully investigating these claims however we will make a written report. I can be reached by email at [email protected], thank you.”

The obvious conclusion would be that Moore supporters are trying to damage the story against Moore, and believe that Alabama voters are gullible enough to fall for this.

The less obvious conclusion would be that Moore opponents are trying to damage Moore by implicating him in a vaguely anti-Semitic prank robocall, and believe that Alabama voters are gullible enough to fall for this.

My own speculative hypothesis is that somebody thinks Roy Moore is gullible enough to fall for this, and was trolling people in Alabama who might be connected to him, hoping to trigger someone and make them embarrass themselves. Why? The only person who has gone public as having received it is also surnamed "Moore", and this is the kind of thing I would probably do. Although it might be a longshot, making his wife rant in all caps about how she's going to sue (((Bernie Bernstein))) would give me maximum LOLs for many years.

[Image: latest?cb=20160730113748]

"He always wanted to drift forever, but through the American Southwest."
(This post was last modified: 11-15-2017 10:20 AM by Jetset.)
11-15-2017 10:17 AM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 2 users Like Jetset's post:
DJ-Matt, spokepoker
Extinguished Light Offline
Recovering Beta
*

Posts: 165
Joined: Feb 2017
Reputation: 5
Post: #25
RE: The GOP Civil War
Basically, this is a message to Bannon. The GOPe is saying here that they would much rather hand the Senate back to the dems that allow the party to be led by nationalists.
11-15-2017 12:51 PM
Find all posts by this user Like Post Quote this message in a reply
[-] The following 7 users Like Extinguished Light's post:
Buck Wild, Samseau, spokepoker, username, Matrixdude, Prince Machiavelli, Tytalus
Post Reply 


Possibly Related Threads...
Thread: Author Replies: Views: Last Post
  USA Civil Unrest (Esp California) Thread Samseau 477 94,357 10-21-2017 04:16 AM
Last Post: John Michael Kane
  The path to Civil War 2 (USA) Roosh 175 36,120 09-13-2017 10:50 PM
Last Post: RoastBeefCurtains4Me
  Berkeley shows that conservatives are irrelevant in the hot civil war TheBoom 56 13,031 05-02-2017 10:21 AM
Last Post: RoastBeefCurtains4Me

Forum Jump:


User(s) browsing this thread: infowarrior1, 3 Guest(s)

Contact Us | RooshV.com | Return to Top | Return to Content | Mobile Version | RSS Syndication