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Great writeup, I'd love to hear more about Software as a service. Are you purchasing white label softwares, rebranding them and selling them? That's the one that interests me most.

In regards to Print on Demand, Amazon Merch is by far the best way to do this, base prices are way lower than customcat or printful or anyone else, you don't have to do any of the legwork just upload designs and you get organic amazon traffic which is priceless.

In regards to social media marketing, again not saying people can't make money but after Tai Lopez put out his course everyone and their mother is doing this, I liken it to SEO, don't get me wrong people made a killing selling SEO services but I think now people are beginning to realize that most of us aren't even knowledgeable enough to know if were getting what were paying for and there's so many dumb sheiesters out there in the industry its kind of ruined the image of paying for SEO. Even Alex Becker has moved away from SEO and is now showing people how to sell those stupid fucking cat earings and sewing machines and all that bullshit on Shopify lol
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(11-24-2017 10:46 AM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  
(11-24-2017 09:53 AM)redbeard Wrote:  Great post, could you break down your POD advertising strategy for the family here?

I haven't done it, but if I had a niched-down store like you describe I'd be advertising on REDDIT a ton. It seems totally undervalued. You can choose subreddits related to your niche and turn on the money hose.

Nobody is talking about this.

REDDIT is awesome for POD - I know a few guys who are using it. Personally, I've never had an account on REDDIT, so I've never experimented with this but I could definitely see it as being powerful.

My entire POD advertising strategy rests on Facebook & Instagram.

In terms of ad creative, a simple picture of your product with a wooden background, and a red border with some super simple text asking your niche a question "do you love xyz", asking them to tag others, and provide a link. It's really super simple. Another option, is to use the awesome provider (https://placeit.net/) which allows you to place your design on real models, and videos as well (super powerful).

At the end of the day though, Facebook is the most powerful advertising platform for niche-based POD ideas. With so many fan pages, it's super easy to target them as well.

I've never really done any Reddit advertising so fill me in. It's basically like sponsored posts right? Are you doing a writeup or just linking to teh shirt or writing a post like "Hey lookat this awesome fucking cat shirt I bought" and then linking to product?
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(12-26-2017 07:22 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:08 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  This is an excellent point.

We try to move people into yearly fees for unlimited leads asap, but even that only gets us $3-4K per year per vendor.

One of our first clients bought the yearly recurring and probably created a false positive for us.

PER YEAR?

I wouldn't get out of bed for that kind of money.

Never do yearly - always do monthly, and always be willing to raise your prices or walk.

The thing that separates people making $10,000 a month vs. $2,000 is nothing other than mindset.

Value yourself highly, and always demand to be paid fairly. Don't be afraid to walk away from poor clients unwilling to pay.

I agree with you and there's people out there making huge money doing sm marketing however one challenge I can see is that every fucking 16 year old with a laptop has a social media marketing company so getting lost in a sea of bodies is a possibility, also many people have hired these bullshit artists and now are going to be very selective and potentially not willing to pay as much Again though I suppose if you hold out for only those select clients your golden.
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(01-03-2018 02:19 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:22 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  
(12-26-2017 07:08 PM)TooFineAPoint Wrote:  This is an excellent point.

We try to move people into yearly fees for unlimited leads asap, but even that only gets us $3-4K per year per vendor.

One of our first clients bought the yearly recurring and probably created a false positive for us.

PER YEAR?

I wouldn't get out of bed for that kind of money.

Never do yearly - always do monthly, and always be willing to raise your prices or walk.

The thing that separates people making $10,000 a month vs. $2,000 is nothing other than mindset.

Value yourself highly, and always demand to be paid fairly. Don't be afraid to walk away from poor clients unwilling to pay.

I agree with you and there's people out there making huge money doing sm marketing however one challenge I can see is that every fucking 16 year old with a laptop has a social media marketing company so getting lost in a sea of bodies is a possibility, also many people have hired these bullshit artists and now are going to be very selective and potentially not willing to pay as much Again though I suppose if you hold out for only those select clients your golden.

True how many of those 16 yr olds are actually landing clients? Can sell? Will make cold calls? etc..

I'd be willing to be 95% do not.

You've also got THOUSANDS of possible niches to work in. It's pretty hard to reach saturation with that.

And also, it's not like SEM where eventually you run out of long-tail keywords and everybody is paying $20+ per click. The targeting with social media is more involved.
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I have a question about providing marketing services.
The question is: What do I actually sell to costumers?
Let´s say I have some basic marketing skills from my own projects. What I can do:
- I can make static website usign html, css (+I am able to add some scripts from other languages, but nothing complex)
- I know how to use some grapgic editors (Photoshop, Inkspace)
- I have some basic knowledge of SEO (what should web-code involve, how to add page to google index)
-I know how to setup Facebook page and launch some ad

I have website offering creating web, I only have traffic from 2 servers which are in my country mostly used for buying/selling products services and bring me few interested persons per month (currently I am not willing to change this). I charge for complete website about 70$, which is not much, but I am learning by doing (no IT background) and my target group are small bussinesses, which search for this kind of servis (low-cost static page with basic information). Anyway I can´t compete with bigger bussinesses set-up be real IT guys.

I would like to improve in marketing and add it to my website micro-bussiness, but I really don´t know what should I sell. I am thath person who learns by doing and I watched some videos and tutorials about marketing and all I´ve seen there is just OBVIOUS. Nothing to learn.

So the question: What do I actually sell as a marketer?
Another:
What knowledge do I miss and should learn?
What are good resources of information about this stuff?
How could my improve what I am doing mentioned above?
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What do you think about drop shipping products (not branded) from Aliexpress? I can see a lot of these popping up on amazon.com and ebay lately.
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Thanks for this thread, it has inspired me to open up my own Shopify store. Bought a domain, connected it to Printful and just designed my first tshirt today. Hopefully the niche I've chosen is decent, but I'm pretty happy with where I'm at so far. Only way to find out is to test things.

My question is how many designs should I have up in my store before I launch my first Facebook campaign? I'm tempted to start advertising right away but I think it looks ridiculous to only have 1 shirt/design in the store. I was thinking if I could get 5 or 6 up that might be enough.
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Awesome thread, I'm gonna try my hand at the POD game myself....I find this really interesting. Thanks a lot!!
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Ryan, quick question. I've seen t shirt e-commerce sites in two main formats:

1. General t shirt front with really random categories (presumably whatever is selling hot based on owner's niche research eg: coolshirts.com)

2. Narrowed down niche website (aka firefighterteeshirts.com)

I can see advantages and disadvantages to both types: #1 is easier to make and maintain your FB and Shopify page since you never have to start from scratch after you begin, but #2 probably seems a lot more credible and "legit" as a business. Question is, is it worth the trouble of building and maintaining multiple Shopify storefronts?

What are your thoughts on this?
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Fantastic stuff so far WC. I have what I think is a pretty killer idea for a line of t-shirts and I'm ready to get going on this right now. A few questions about POD:

1) How do you get your design on the t-shirt? For example Custom Ink has this design lab: https://www.customink.com/ndx/#/welcome which works perfectly for me. My designs don't need anything more than words, shapes, and emojis. I didn't see a similar option on Custom Cat. Is there a universal template for t-shirt design or something along those lines?

2) It's set it and forget it? Meaning you don't deal with any customer service issues, returns, etc? Shopify does all of that?

3) Because the printing is on demand is it true that you don't need to guess what colors and sizes you need as you don't actually hold any inventory? Anything is available to customers, no minimum orders etc?

4) Do you incorporate or at least set up a business bank account?

5) Trademarks - have you done this for any of your products or slogans? What I see as my flagship shirt will have a catchy name which I think it makes sense to trademark.

Don't mean to bombard you with questions but I want to have all my ducks in a row and I like excruciating detail. Thanks in advance.
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1) How do you get your design on the t-shirt? For example Custom Ink has this design lab: https://www.customink.com/ndx/#/welcome which works perfectly for me. My designs don't need anything more than words, shapes, and emojis. I didn't see a similar option on Custom Cat. Is there a universal template for t-shirt design or something along those lines?

Some programs like Teespring have built in editors. Otherwise you could use a program like Canva, Photoshop, even something free like Lunapic or Picmonkey. Keep in mind your going to need a clear background image or you'll have big white blocks around any Google image pictures or royalty free photos you find and use on shirts.

If this is something you plan on doing longterm you may want to start learning photoshop or gimp.

2) It's set it and forget it? Meaning you don't deal with any customer service issues, returns, etc? Shopify does all of that?

Depends. You can sell on a site like Redbubble, TeeChip, etc. Many you just upload designs and send people there. That said its kinda unprofessional so many people will find a site/company to make and dropship shirts and list them on a Shopify store which will allow you to customize it more, create a brand image, and do email marketing to customers where as through a third party site you may not get their contact info after a sale.

There are some plugins that can automate the process, Printful seems the best site in terms of automation with etsy, shopify, gumroad, etc.

3) Because the printing is on demand is it true that you don't need to guess what colors and sizes you need as you don't actually hold any inventory? Anything is available to customers, no minimum orders etc?

Yes this is true. Keep in mind while its a great low barrier to entry way to start, your not going to run a serious clothing brand off print on demand. Its not hte same quality as screenprinting. Colors aren't as vivid and they dont hold up as well.

That's true you can offer whatever colors, sizes, styles of shirts your printer/dropshipper supports as your not paying anything until its ordered from you

4) Do you incorporate or at least set up a business bank account?

Unless it takes off and you start making real money I wouldn't bother. Very low risk so don't really need the protection of an LLC. It sounds like you dont really have design skills so not to be rude but not sure how long you'll stick with it and lastly unless your making decent money there's not really a ton of tax advantages. Start it see how it goes and re-evaluate if your still doing it a few months down the road.

5) Trademarks - have you done this for any of your products or slogans? What I see as my flagship shirt will have a catchy name which I think it makes sense to trademark.

Costs a few hundred bucks to do and at the end of the day your trademark is only as strong as your ability to pursue people who infringe on it. If you don't have a bunch of money to go after people who use it your probably wasting time and money. Even if you do many people will infringe anyway and how much you do expect to get by suing some 16 year old kid stealing your designs. I guess ultimately if your trying to create a line or brand may as well trademark it, otherwise don't bother trademarking random funny shirts.
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Thanks for jumping in jamaicabound and no offense taken.

Next step is to see what I can learn about design that meets my low requirements. I'm totally ignorant of Facebook as I've never used it but I'll take WC's advice and see what YouTube has to offer as far as educational resources on advertising.

One last question for anyone who can answer - do you typically have one shirt sent to yourself to see how it came out? Someone mentioned crummy printing jobs from a different service earlier in the thread so it seems like you'd want a way to make sure the product is decent before you make an ass of yourself trying to sell it.
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(01-24-2018 07:36 PM)Sisyphus Wrote:  Thanks for jumping in jamaicabound and no offense taken.

Next step is to see what I can learn about design that meets my low requirements. I'm totally ignorant of Facebook as I've never used it but I'll take WC's advice and see what YouTube has to offer as far as educational resources on advertising.

One last question for anyone who can answer - do you typically have one shirt sent to yourself to see how it came out? Someone mentioned crummy printing jobs from a different service earlier in the thread so it seems like you'd want a way to make sure the product is decent before you make an ass of yourself trying to sell it.

I'd highly recommend trying to get on Amazon Merch, the advantage of having Amazon traffic is going to give you 1000x more chances of selling shirts than having your own shop. It's a great way to play around with designs and niches and see what sells as well and once you find a niche that works then it may be worthwhile to setup your own shop.

With your own shop you can have badass tee shirts but if you can't drive any traffic there and nobody can see them they aren't going to sell. Also tshirts are an impulse buy and amazon already has your credit card so its one click and you got a sale as opposed to someone having to dig a card out of their wallet.

In terms of printing quality definitely order a shirt. I recently had a shirt I thought was awesome and I got a bad review on it, apparently the image quality wasn't good enough and it came out pixelated, had I ordered a shirt myself I'd have known that.

You can do some pretty cool stuff with canva or lunapic, however for real professional quality stuff hire someoen. Some fiverr designers aren't bad but you can hire someone out of indonesia or the phillipines for a couple hundred bucks a month and have them cranking out hundreds of designs for you.

I'd also suggest hopping on etsy and running ppc easy way to start building up your store although keep in mind etsy is more artsy and cutesy than edgy so I suppose depends on what your going to be doing.

I know some people have a lot of success with FB ads, personally I have not, maybe I suck at them but I also to some extent feel like when your doing love margin stuff like not only tee shirts but print on demand which is even worse margins its gonna be tough to pay for ads and still stay profitable.

As far as quality printful in my experience has been pretty goo. Tee spring is a fucking joke, ordered a shirt off there not only did the tee shirt feel like a rag I'd clean my car with, they folded it before the ink was dry and it stuck to itself and goofed up the design, never again.

Just an FYI I'm fucking terrible at photoshop myself so don't let that stop you. The stuff I do myself I try to stick to simpler text or image designs and anything else I hire out
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Jamaicabound I applied for Amazon Merch but haven’t heard back in a while. How long does it usually take?

Also aside from doing gig orders on Fiverr, is there any other way to enter into a long term arrangement with a good graphic designer?
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(01-28-2018 01:24 AM)ProfessorCumbledore Wrote:  Jamaicabound I applied for Amazon Merch but haven’t heard back in a while. How long does it usually take?

Also aside from doing gig orders on Fiverr, is there any other way to enter into a long term arrangement with a good graphic designer?

Hard to say on timeline, some people get on in a few months others have been waiting for over a year and its kinda random as all they take is your name and email address and maybe a website so its not like they have any way to judge candidates just a waiting game at this point.

In terms of finding designers you can always do a gig with someone on Fiverr and if you like them try to negotiate a package deal. I would say $4 per design is about as good as you'll get doing it this way. If you hire someone full time you can get a lot more work out of them for a lot less money however I think this strategy only works with merch as you can hit all different niches and have Amazon traffic.

If your trying to do this strategy for your own shopify store there comes a time when too many choices means someone wont buy ie the paradox of choice so its actually a bad thing to have a store with hundreds of designs as opposed to a store with 5-10 designs.

Don't mean to rain on your parade but trying to make money off t-shirts for most people isn't going to work out unless your doing merch. Print on demand doesn't leave a lot of room for good margins yet your having to drive all the traffic or are paying for paid traffic. With your own store to some extent your also tied into a niche where as I can make a yoga shirt today, a surfing shirt tomorrow and a bitcoin shirt on Friday. The barrier to entry is so low there's a lot of competition. I also find it easier to convert people on Amazon when they already know and trust amazon and have their credit card uploaded.

I think before rolling out your own store you should try using eBay or Etsy to kind of prove the concept, if you can't sell on there your not going to be able to sell on your own store.
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Life got busy REAL FAST.

I'm going to answer all of the above questions today/tomorrow.

Apologies for starting a thread, and vanishing into the Ukrainian mist.

I hope everybody is crushing it.

Also - for those of you not wanting to hide your identity, I want to start an RVF Facebook group for making money online. Let me know if you're interested!
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(01-28-2018 01:24 AM)ProfessorCumbledore Wrote:  Jamaicabound I applied for Amazon Merch but haven’t heard back in a while. How long does it usually take?

I just submitted my request and it says the average wait is 60 days. I felt like Veruca Salt when I saw that message come up ("but I want to sell my brilliant t-shirt NOW!"). I'll take any advice on what to do in the meantime. For example, can you sell the same designs on multiple platforms (CustomCat/Shopify in addition to Amazon Merch, etc.)?

Anyway my most complicated design is in the can and I can crank out the rest of my first batch in one evening. Then it's time for more market research. I find this exciting and I'll update the board as I keep moving forward.
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(01-31-2018 08:13 PM)Sisyphus Wrote:  
(01-28-2018 01:24 AM)ProfessorCumbledore Wrote:  Jamaicabound I applied for Amazon Merch but haven’t heard back in a while. How long does it usually take?

I just submitted my request and it says the average wait is 60 days. I felt like Veruca Salt when I saw that message come up ("but I want to sell my brilliant t-shirt NOW!"). I'll take any advice on what to do in the meantime. For example, can you sell the same designs on multiple platforms (CustomCat/Shopify in addition to Amazon Merch, etc.)?

Anyway my most complicated design is in the can and I can crank out the rest of my first batch in one evening. Then it's time for more market research. I find this exciting and I'll update the board as I keep moving forward.

IMHO nothing in the POD realm can come even close to competing with Amazon Merch, you can't beat that organic traffic and the trust people have with Amazon. Plus shirts are an impulse buy and with Amazon your CC inof is saved you don't even have to enter it.

I would say in the interum setup a Printful account and an Etsy account, link them so the process is automated and sell on Etsy, get your first sales running PPC ads.

Start saving all your tee shirts in 4500x5400 format and keep a folder. This way when you hit Amazon Merch you can start uploading.

I think 60 days is pretty optimistic probably 3-9 months wait time. Once you get on you'll be capped at 10 shirts total. Once you sell 10 you get to list 25. Once you get 25 you can list 50. once you sell 50 you can list 100, etc, etc, etc.

Only downside to Merch is they are very protective over copyright stuff ie you can't even use the word hot sauce for example. Also no sex, drugs, cussing, etc.
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(01-31-2018 01:53 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  Also - for those of you not wanting to hide your identity, I want to start an RVF Facebook group for making money online. Let me know if you're interested!

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(02-01-2018 02:40 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  
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(01-28-2018 01:24 AM)ProfessorCumbledore Wrote:  Jamaicabound I applied for Amazon Merch but haven’t heard back in a while. How long does it usually take?

I just submitted my request and it says the average wait is 60 days. I felt like Veruca Salt when I saw that message come up ("but I want to sell my brilliant t-shirt NOW!"). I'll take any advice on what to do in the meantime. For example, can you sell the same designs on multiple platforms (CustomCat/Shopify in addition to Amazon Merch, etc.)?

Anyway my most complicated design is in the can and I can crank out the rest of my first batch in one evening. Then it's time for more market research. I find this exciting and I'll update the board as I keep moving forward.

IMHO nothing in the POD realm can come even close to competing with Amazon Merch, you can't beat that organic traffic and the trust people have with Amazon. Plus shirts are an impulse buy and with Amazon your CC inof is saved you don't even have to enter it.

Are the margins as crummy with the other sites? I assume that over time the volume more than makes up for it, but I was curious.

jamaicabound Wrote:I think 60 days is pretty optimistic probably 3-9 months wait time.

I got my approval yesterday. Maybe I just hit it at the right time or maybe they really liked my idea and/or copywriting. Anyway I submitted my first design and have several others in draft form on my dashboard so I can just add those one at a time.

In case anyone wanted to know, I've been doing my designing in Vectr and Gravit which are both super easy to use (and free). Vectr is very intuitive - the advantage of Gravit is the stock of built-in emojis which are helpful to me whereas Vectr has a limited number of basic shapes available. It's easy to export and then import into GIMP (also free) which is one of the platforms Amazon recommends to follow their guidelines.
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(01-28-2018 01:24 AM)ProfessorCumbledore Wrote:  Jamaicabound I applied for Amazon Merch but haven’t heard back in a while. How long does it usually take?

I just submitted my request and it says the average wait is 60 days. I felt like Veruca Salt when I saw that message come up ("but I want to sell my brilliant t-shirt NOW!"). I'll take any advice on what to do in the meantime. For example, can you sell the same designs on multiple platforms (CustomCat/Shopify in addition to Amazon Merch, etc.)?

Anyway my most complicated design is in the can and I can crank out the rest of my first batch in one evening. Then it's time for more market research. I find this exciting and I'll update the board as I keep moving forward.

IMHO nothing in the POD realm can come even close to competing with Amazon Merch, you can't beat that organic traffic and the trust people have with Amazon. Plus shirts are an impulse buy and with Amazon your CC inof is saved you don't even have to enter it.

Are the margins as crummy with the other sites? I assume that over time the volume more than makes up for it, but I was curious.

jamaicabound Wrote:I think 60 days is pretty optimistic probably 3-9 months wait time.

I got my approval yesterday. Maybe I just hit it at the right time or maybe they really liked my idea and/or copywriting. Anyway I submitted my first design and have several others in draft form on my dashboard so I can just add those one at a time.

In case anyone wanted to know, I've been doing my designing in Vectr and Gravit which are both super easy to use (and free). Vectr is very intuitive - the advantage of Gravit is the stock of built-in emojis which are helpful to me whereas Vectr has a limited number of basic shapes available. It's easy to export and then import into GIMP (also free) which is one of the platforms Amazon recommends to follow their guidelines.

That's awesome you got on so quickly. If you don't mind my asking what did they ask you when you signed up? I've been on for years but when I signed up it was basically name, email, and website address.

I always thought it was smart to put a website address as it at least shows you are somewhat competent online and potentially have a place and an audience to promote your shirts to, however they have very little to judge people based on so always wonder why some people get rejected and why some people get on quicker than others. Curious to hear if they ask for more info or a marketing plan now?

Lastly in terms of margins Merch IMHO is one of the best options out there. I know custom cat can be pretty cheap, I've not personally used it but I would imagine quality isn't that great at that price. Outside of custom cat though most sites like Redbubble and Printful seem to charge $12 to $16 per shirt plus shipping. On Amazon most people have Prime so get free shipping plus your base price is $12 so your not having to factor shipping in there which takes a cut of your sales if you dont offer free shipping.
02-05-2018 11:34 AM
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(02-05-2018 11:34 AM)jamaicabound Wrote:  
(02-04-2018 05:26 PM)Sisyphus Wrote:  
(02-01-2018 02:40 PM)jamaicabound Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 08:13 PM)Sisyphus Wrote:  
(01-28-2018 01:24 AM)ProfessorCumbledore Wrote:  Jamaicabound I applied for Amazon Merch but haven’t heard back in a while. How long does it usually take?

I just submitted my request and it says the average wait is 60 days. I felt like Veruca Salt when I saw that message come up ("but I want to sell my brilliant t-shirt NOW!"). I'll take any advice on what to do in the meantime. For example, can you sell the same designs on multiple platforms (CustomCat/Shopify in addition to Amazon Merch, etc.)?

Anyway my most complicated design is in the can and I can crank out the rest of my first batch in one evening. Then it's time for more market research. I find this exciting and I'll update the board as I keep moving forward.

IMHO nothing in the POD realm can come even close to competing with Amazon Merch, you can't beat that organic traffic and the trust people have with Amazon. Plus shirts are an impulse buy and with Amazon your CC inof is saved you don't even have to enter it.

Are the margins as crummy with the other sites? I assume that over time the volume more than makes up for it, but I was curious.

jamaicabound Wrote:I think 60 days is pretty optimistic probably 3-9 months wait time.

I got my approval yesterday. Maybe I just hit it at the right time or maybe they really liked my idea and/or copywriting. Anyway I submitted my first design and have several others in draft form on my dashboard so I can just add those one at a time.

In case anyone wanted to know, I've been doing my designing in Vectr and Gravit which are both super easy to use (and free). Vectr is very intuitive - the advantage of Gravit is the stock of built-in emojis which are helpful to me whereas Vectr has a limited number of basic shapes available. It's easy to export and then import into GIMP (also free) which is one of the platforms Amazon recommends to follow their guidelines.

That's awesome you got on so quickly. If you don't mind my asking what did they ask you when you signed up? I've been on for years but when I signed up it was basically name, email, and website address.

I always thought it was smart to put a website address as it at least shows you are somewhat competent online and potentially have a place and an audience to promote your shirts to, however they have very little to judge people based on so always wonder why some people get rejected and why some people get on quicker than others. Curious to hear if they ask for more info or a marketing plan now?

Lastly in terms of margins Merch IMHO is one of the best options out there. I know custom cat can be pretty cheap, I've not personally used it but I would imagine quality isn't that great at that price. Outside of custom cat though most sites like Redbubble and Printful seem to charge $12 to $16 per shirt plus shipping. On Amazon most people have Prime so get free shipping plus your base price is $12 so your not having to factor shipping in there which takes a cut of your sales if you dont offer free shipping.

It was mostly the basic information, but there's an "optional" section where they encourage you talk about your brand, niche, philosophy, etc. I figured I would be a fool not to take the option because why not take the opportunity to promote and distinguish yourself. So I whipped up a paragraph that I thought was pretty inspired. First design was approved and went live this afternoon. Sales currently sitting at an even 0. Thanks for all your help so far.
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I really appreciate you sharing your work and methods here.

Can you please share how you target audiences? Lets say you’re selling T-shirts in the cat niche; what interests, behaviours, etc. would you use? What’s the optimum audience size? Keywords in your ad?

Is it better to test on etsy or with instagram influencers then move to FB ads if I generate some sales?

It seems most people are following those “gurus” on youtube but still not making sales or profit!!! What’s the secret honestly?
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(01-31-2018 01:53 PM)WeekendCasanova Wrote:  Also - for those of you not wanting to hide your identity, I want to start an RVF Facebook group for making money online. Let me know if you're interested!

Would be something great for the private forum to keep prying eyes out.

Agreed.

I'll set this up.
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(02-06-2018 02:46 PM)Aviel Wrote:  I really appreciate you sharing your work and methods here.

Can you please share how you target audiences? Lets say you’re selling T-shirts in the cat niche; what interests, behaviours, etc. would you use? What’s the optimum audience size? Keywords in your ad?

Is it better to test on etsy or with instagram influencers then move to FB ads if I generate some sales?

It seems most people are following those “gurus” on youtube but still not making sales or profit!!! What’s the secret honestly?

Personally I don't do any paid advertising. Nothing you can do IMHO comes anywhere close to Amazon's organic search results and with the low margins unless your an expert at Facebook marketing I personally think it would be a challenge to pay for ads and still turn a profit only making $5 per shirt.

I have sent free tee shirts to influencers and gotten them to wear them on Youtube videos and Instagram but I've never actually paid anyone cash to do this.
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