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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
(12-01-2017 01:19 PM)PepeLePew Wrote:  Hi all, I wa just wondering if anyone had any experience with the women in Zurich or Switzerland in general. I currently live in Barcelona but not for long anymore. I find the city completely disappointing when it comes to girls. This city is full of ugly feminist aint-shit girls. The standard girl here is about a 4-4.5, very pale, smokes, looks about 10 years older than she is, has unnatural color dyed hair, and has a nose septum ring, and a couple of tattoos. I have wandered up and down the city in the middle of the day and can count on 1 hand the number of girls I think are remotely cute. I am considering moving to Switzerland and was wondering if anyone had any thoughts with the types of girls there.
You do not like Barcelona ? The nightlife scene was admirable.Actually you are very lucky because a lot of tourists from Eastern Europe and Northern Europe visit Barcelona.If you are a local you have a high chance getting laid , since women want a reliable local to show them around , give tips about dos and donts and for sheer fun.I saw so many locals getting laid with gorgeous tourist girls in the clubs nearby the marina.I think you should stop complaining and appreciate the opportunity you have.It is true that Spanish and Catalan women are ugly ,maybe the ugliest in Europe .But there are areas in Barcelona where you can find more tourists than inhabitants.Coming to your question Swiss women are ugly ,chubby ,xenophobic , rich as hell,arrogant and feminist.I would never date one unless she is with exceptionally decent personality.I do not even mention insane costs of accomodation , train tickets ,taxi fares ,alcohol and eating.They think they are living in some sort of a utopia ,matterfact it is a distopia.
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^ totally agree about Barcelona. Almost tempted to learn Spanish and establish a base there and play the local guide for the hordes of horny tourists there. Nightlife is easy there if you're long-term and establish connections

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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
Ironic that my first post on this forum is about the city I live in.

Right, so basics about me: I'm average looking on the plus side, I travel the world for work (17 new countries last year, 15 this year). I spend on average 2 weeks in Zurich by choice (my choice). Been here for the last 3 years.

Statistically Zurich is the most difficult city in the word to get any kind of action. The official male to female ratio is about 4:1. When going out it's worse than that. The other night I was in a park with a girl and there were about 20 guys around us. What does this statistic mean in real life?
It means that for every girl you are competing, 3 other successful good looking guys are fighting too.
It means that every time you turn around 3 other guys could be making a move on your girl.
It means it's never your girl, it's only your turn.
It means if you have a convertible, someone else has a Ferrari. If you have a Ferrari someone else pulls up in a McLaren. You show up in a Bugatti, a dude shows up on a boat. It's really hard to win here with money.
The guys generally look really good. Fit, outdoorsy vibe etc. It's a very healthy city where most guys use bicycles to get around. Now to summarize it. The majority of population is in pharma or banking...which means 120k annual salaries are normal here.

Now onto the women. Hands down the best looking girls in the world come here. All nationalities are around. Most rich Swiss guys have been importing their wives from Russia, Thailand, South America etc as a result 3 generations down the line, the girls here are fit, hot and pretty amazing. However if you throw in the numbers in the mix, it basically means that the women put really high price on their pussy.
After travelling the world, and seeing what it has to offer, I can't justify Swiss pussy

That being said I met some Swiss girls in my time abroad...it's like meeting different people. Once they realize that they are just good looking women in the sea of good looking women, the ego drops and they are easy to lay.

I had a buddy who attempted a same night lay in Zurich two weeks ago...he's ridiculously good looking with solid game, and after trying all night long, he eventually took home a 34 year old 5. A huge accomplishment in Zurich! I didn't believe it was possible.

Guys be weary of Zurich. It's quite possibly the hardest city in the world I have gamed in...I'm planning to visit north Korea next year to compare (research purposes) but I think I'll be able to hook up there easier.
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(06-17-2018 08:55 PM)zmaster Wrote:  Ironic that my first post on this forum is about the city I live in.

Right, so basics about me: I'm average looking on the plus side, I travel the world for work (17 new countries last year, 15 this year). I spend on average 2 weeks in Zurich by choice (my choice). Been here for the last 3 years.

Statistically Zurich is the most difficult city in the word to get any kind of action. The official male to female ratio is about 4:1. When going out it's worse than that. The other night I was in a park with a girl and there were about 20 guys around us. What does this statistic mean in real life?
It means that for every girl you are competing, 3 other successful good looking guys are fighting too.
It means that every time you turn around 3 other guys could be making a move on your girl.
It means it's never your girl, it's only your turn.
It means if you have a convertible, someone else has a Ferrari. If you have a Ferrari someone else pulls up in a McLaren. You show up in a Bugatti, a dude shows up on a boat. It's really hard to win here with money.
The guys generally look really good. Fit, outdoorsy vibe etc. It's a very healthy city where most guys use bicycles to get around. Now to summarize it. The majority of population is in pharma or banking...which means 120k annual salaries are normal here.

Now onto the women. Hands down the best looking girls in the world come here. All nationalities are around. Most rich Swiss guys have been importing their wives from Russia, Thailand, South America etc as a result 3 generations down the line, the girls here are fit, hot and pretty amazing. However if you throw in the numbers in the mix, it basically means that the women put really high price on their pussy.
After travelling the world, and seeing what it has to offer, I can't justify Swiss pussy

That being said I met some Swiss girls in my time abroad...it's like meeting different people. Once they realize that they are just good looking women in the sea of good looking women, the ego drops and they are easy to lay.

I had a buddy who attempted a same night lay in Zurich two weeks ago...he's ridiculously good looking with solid game, and after trying all night long, he eventually took home a 34 year old 5. A huge accomplishment in Zurich! I didn't believe it was possible.

Guys be weary of Zurich. It's quite possibly the hardest city in the world I have gamed in...I'm planning to visit north Korea next year to compare (research purposes) but I think I'll be able to hook up there easier.


The official gender ratio is 1:1. I stopped reading afterwards.
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I have met a few Swiss chicks while traveling and they seem way too uptight. I could not imagine any of them going for ONS. They are not even close to their slutty and lets-have-fun German or Dutch counterparts.

Swiss dudes are chill as fuck though - down to earth and nice guys. I feel bad for them because they are genuinely good-looking dudes that have to deal with the shitty dating culture and women in their country.
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The "official" gender ratio of Zurich is insane. The shitheads include every bloody woman until age 64. 18-30 age range has insane stats in Zurich.
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I live in Zug (30 min from Zurich) but am not Swiss. One thing you have to take into account is that Zurich is a banking/finance city which means that it attracts a lot of young single men on good salaries. Zurich doesn't really have many "female" dominated industries like PR, marketing, pharma or fashion like London, NYC and Paris have. I notice that almost all the ex-pat women I meet are here becasue they followed a husband or boyfreind.

Coming from London, I notice that the women here are a lot more careful about their reputation and I don't really see a big ONS culture here, although I don't doubt that it does happen for the top guys. For example, in London I would go out and see loads of girls out with one friend (basically a 2-set) looking to be hunted by guys. The girls actually want to be approached and want the banter and the fun that goes with it. Here in Zurich I usually see Swiss girls out in big mixed groups which makes it much more difficult to approach. Funnily enough, for a people who have lots of money and love to travel, the Swiss (Swiss Germans) can be quite afraid of strangers and quite closed off to meeting new people.

The other thing I notice is that alot of the girls here dress quite plainly. I used to love going out in London and seeing girls all dressed up in tight skirts, high heels, hair and makeup all done up. Here I see a lot of jeans, converse trainers, no makeup and hair in a boring pony tail. I find this is more of a Swiss-German thing as in Geneva, which is French in language and culture, the women dressed in a much more feminine style.

Zurich is a lovely city with high quality living and very low taxes, but not a great place to be a single guy unless you speak Swiss-German and have a very deep social circle. It is a great place to raise a family once you've found "the -one" haha.
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I lived in Zurich for a couple of years. Once I went to town with 2 girls. We entered a club which was swarmed wall to wall with men - they were standing there packed on every square inch. Then it turned out that it was a strip club/brothel, but even later I was wondering how the fuck are so many guys cramped in a shitty strip club? Sure - those clubs are everywhere, but do you stay in one being cramped like in a sardine can standing next to a bunch of sweaty dudes? For Zurich men that was an acceptable saturday night life experience.

I have tons of stories - one recent that should also tell you something. A smarter Ukrainian woman I know lives and works in Zurich and she has a 36yo colleague who is at best a slightly overweight Swiss 6. She asks her whether she isn't worried about being alone and childless. The Swiss woman responds laughing and saying: "Naah - I have plenty of time to find a good-looking millionaire." Those are her words and you know what? She was right - one year later she nabbed a good-looking bloke making 100k+ and having well-off parents. He had a slight speech impediment and was shy, but was tall, muscular and in the 7-8 looks scale (almost model looks so 80-90% of women would call him hot). And they are planning a family - that overweight 37yo woman and her millionaire prince.

That is the state of the Zurich dating market. Sure - there are cute girls, if you travel to the French and mountain regions, then the rules change somewhat, but still - gender ratios are shit or fat 37yo bitches would not have their demands met like in some feminazi-buffet.
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Honestly, I think that you are exaggerating. True points are about the industry mainly focused on banking, IT and pharma hence male concentrated. Many folks with tons of cash. But in Zurich there are also many guys who are not really competitive despite flashing wealth and having decent looks. From my observations they lack game, many of them are too serious and focused about work, and aren't able to escalate properly with women. Generally guys far from being rich, but with an energetic and direct game were getting good results.
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Back then I was not aware of Game, but one American banged his way across all kinds of Swiss girls. Most men don't have Game, that is true and even more so in Zurich. Gender ratios and the basic competition however will impact your approaches even if you are good-looking and have seasoned Game.

Giacomo - did you do at least some 50-100 approaches in Zurich and how does it compare to Germany, Austria or Eastern Europe?
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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
Honestly no experience at all in other German speaking countries. Nightlife is quite boring in Zurich, apart for a couple of venues with electronic music.
Italian and French speaking cantons of Switzerland might be better in terms of girls and in general lifestyle - not to mention the luxury and "gov" industries in Genève which help to balance the ratio and attract expats. But of course those cities are not among the places I would visit if I wanna have fun...
EE is in general better in terms of quality but nowadays you have to deal with the sexual tourist stigma that makes game more complicated as a foreigner.
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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
I've just returned from my 4th trip to Zurich, have probably spent about 2 months there in total. I have close friends there and they're pretty much the only reason I visit. However last two trips I got one new bang each.

I can't agree with the general pessimism on the dating market.

Zurich has girls from all over the world, many of which are the first generation born in Switzerland. Every look you want you can find there. Pretty much everybody speaks English well.

Also, I've never had hard blowouts in Zurich, girls have always been polite even when they were not interested. In São Paulo, the same type of girl occasionally flips me off, yells at me or acts rude/confrontational.

Zurich people have money, most girls take good care of themselves. In my experience, the only exception are the University aged girls who are going through a rebellious phase.

The worst part about dating in Zurich seems to be the fact that it's a global city but still quite small. Socially, things take time in Switzerland because everybody knows everybody and no one wants to damage their rep. Both girls I banged I had met casually (socially, with friends; not dates) three times before banging - but once they were familiar with me it was zero resistance.

On that note, social circle is huge there. When someone introduces you as their friend to their friends, you instantly jump through 1-6 months of background checks, social hurdles, etc.

I can't comment on ratios with scientific precision, but even though I see it as slightly skewed towards more men (definitely not 4:1 in my opinion) it's the same story as everywhere else: it doesn't REALLY matter if the ratios aren't that favorable as long as you have your shit together. Sure there's a ton of good looking bachelors in Zurich, but it will always be 20% of the guys banging 80% of the girls.

Most of my Swiss friends are in relationships. Some of them cheat when they get the chance (especially abroad), but in my experience there isn't much cheating locally - again, everybody knows everybody and becoming known as a cheater would be terribly negative in Swiss society.

One thing to take into account is that some of the people I've met there are the biggest substance abusers I've ever seen. Zurich people are too rich for their own good and it's common to see them do way too much alcohol, pills and coke.

I've met a handful of crazy Swiss girls who fit the above. Some also cut themselves as teenagers (I don't think I've ever met a Brazilian girl who did that).

To me, the bottom line on the girls I game in ZH (20-25, middle-upper class) is: they're bored to death with Swiss guys and Swiss life, and will actively throw themselves at you if you're cool and socially okay enough.

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My experience with Swiss women is as follows; Head to The Standard on sausage fest Wednesday, see them by the bar and open in German as you overheard them speaking it (not realising they're from Switzerland), get told to fuck off, fuck off for a while, bump into them again at the bar, make a joke in German, get a laugh and continue as if the previous encounter hadn't happened, talk, drink, dance... take both to my room and have one of the best threesomes of my life.

My other experience has been that of coldness when in Gstaad, not sure why I failed so badly with the natives at the time but when I head back this winter, I'll make a play again.
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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
My experience with Zurich goes like so:
I met this cute German girl in nyc doing daygame one day and we had a great summer together. She was very open minded, passionate, cool and easy going girl. She left after her internship was up and we kept in contact here and there. Now a year later I told her I was traveling Europe for the summer and SHE ASKED ME to visit her as she’d been living in Zurich almost a year now. I did. When I show up we slowly get reacquainted as it’s been some time and then she asks if I can sleep separately from her while I’m staying with her. I was tired that night so fine. The next day, I’m rested and determined to see what’s going on. Basically she has been seeing a bunch of different guys since moving to Zurich, her ego is wayyyy inflated and she thought she could friend zone me and still have me visit her. I don’t know what the hell she was thinking. I booked a train and left the next morning haha
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Also it’s probably the most expensive city in the world and that’s coming from someone who lives in NYC
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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
My experience with Zurich goes like so:
I met this cute German girl in nyc doing daygame one day and we had a great summer together. She was very open minded, passionate, cool and easy going girl. She left after her internship was up and we kept in contact here and there. Now a year later I told her I was traveling Europe for the summer and SHE ASKED ME to visit her. I did. When I show up we slowly get reacquainted as it’s been some time and then she asks if I can sleep separately from her while I’m staying with her. I was tired that night so fine. The next day, I’m rested and determined to see what’s going on. Basically she has been seeing a bunch of different guys since moving to Zurich, her ego is wayyyy inflated and she thought she could friend zone me and still have me visit her. I don’t know what the hell she was thinking. I booked a train and left the next morning haha
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I’ve got a one day stopover in Zurich in early November. First time in Switzerland.

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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
I basically grew up in German part of Switzerland and let me tell you: this place sucks for both men AND women as far as dating goes.

I completely gave up on Swiss girls about 15 years ago. In my entire life here, I had one ONS with Swiss girl sometimes in the end of 90es when we got chemistry on a dance floor, still I had to be vetted by her friends (everyone from her group, girls and dudes, talked to me before they let her go).

My main pool for dating here have been FSU women that came to marry Swiss men for papers / money or both. You see, those women make two big mistakes: First of all, they think that men here live the same short lives as in their countries. So when a 20 years old goes for a 60 years old rich dude she calculates that he will croak in 10 years, leave her his money and she will go living la vida loca in her 30’s, find luv, give birth to kids etc. But “old bastards” do not want to die, they keep on living well into 80, so when woman hits her 30+ years she gets into true panic. Still, many of them are not willing to abandon their golden cages. They will cry you a river about their horrible fate, how they want family and kids but will refuse to jump unless you also drive Bentley, have a large Villa and can provide for their luxury lifestyle.

Their second mistake is to think that they will actually find love if they do dump their hubby. This is very rarely the case, FSU woman and Swiss men just do not mix well (and vice versa).

If you are reasonably young, handsome, speak Russian and know how to find them (online, meetups of Russian speaking ppl, personal network) you will have very decent chance to roll with them. As a bonus, since so many of those girls are married they will not bug you about long-term romantic relationship.
As a minus you will always be a “boy toy”, someone who meets them for a few hours and then be gone. This might sound tempting but trust me, it gets on your psyche with time. Plus, you will experience world of true hurt if you do manage to do a stupid thing and fall in love with one of those gold diggers. Beware!
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When I was in Playa del Carmen, I ran into these two blond German-speaking Swiss girls at a salsa event. I'm not sure if they were from Zurich but in looks, one was an 8 and the other was a 7 and both were skinny. Alas, they were going to another part of Mexico the very next day and we could never meet up again.


That's one of the few times I've run into Swiss girls and those two were the most attractive by a country mile.
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I only had one experience with one Swiss girl, from Bern. She was a hottie, even though her ass was disappointingly flabby, but she was a dead fish. I wasn't impressed with Swiss girls as a whole.
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Man, just don't bother. Male competition is insanely high, which leads to a snowball effect of women lowering their own quality. In a word, the women are the ones living in abudance. Combine with this extremely conservative Swiss culture and see what you get. Game here at your own peril.
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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
My personal experience:

It depends what kinda scene or social circle you're in. Zurich is small, but still quite international. Some scenes or social circles are more open-minded, especially where there are many foreigners. But generally I can say that socially the city is very closed off. People generally are simply not very open to meeting new people.

Also, I think it's true what was said above: The wealth in the city simply distorts many people's perception. Many people (girls) believe that a Dan Bilzerian lifestyle is quite attainable for them (by fucking the right guy). There are many extremely rich people is the city. Not saying all these guys are super fun to be around, but it simply creates a certain expectation.

You don't necessarily need to be rich, but then it helps to have a certain niche. E.g. artist, rapper etc. Then you can insert yourself into that niche. But just be aware that it's a lot easier for Zurich guys to live that lifestyle since most have a lot of family money in the background. E.g. I know a guy who is a "poet"/writer, and is well connected in the art scene. He is successful with girls, but fact is his lifestyle is to a large degree financed by his family. There are a ton of people like that. I know many artist guys with substantial family wealth. In a place like Berlin for example there are many struggling artists with really very little money, but that almost doesn't exist in Zurich. The only people with no money are low-IQ low-level workers (most of them only speak broken German), or radical left-wing squatters. Both groups you don't want to associate with obviously.

Of course you can find a well paying job in Zurich if you have the right background. But even if you make a very good salary, it won't really make much difference. For a well-qualified worker a salary of 120k/year is pretty average. Even if you make 150k it's not really something that will give you any real advantage.

Also, it's a quite well known fact that many foreigners struggle to integrate and find friends in Zurich/ Switzerland. There are many articles online about German people who moved to Zurich and are now moving back to Germany because they simply found it too hard to build any connections and social contacts in Zürich.
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What’s the average Zurich salary?
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RE: Zurich women? Does anyone have an experiences with Swiss women?
(09-07-2019 01:37 PM)Que enspastic Wrote:  What’s the average Zurich salary?

Averages in Zurich (and Switzerland in general) are very misleading. Quite a few in finance industry make over 400k/year while many people in other sectors of economy might have to somehow make due with 10 times less. All that screws up the average numbers.

See here: https://www.stadt-zuerich.ch/prd/de/inde...erich.html and look at the first graph, it shows distribution of monthly salary sizes, also shows comparison between Zurich City and Switzerland.

I am in the right of this graph and still, I have 0 chance to impress those Zurich city chicks with money. There is so much of inherited / parked wealth here that 99.9% of those who live off "salary" are essentially poor sob's.

There are small towns around Zurich where poorer people live and youths hang around, lots of former refugees (From former Yugoslavia / Kosovo) in 2nd generation, females there can be very beautiful (black hair, blue eyes) but the culture is, hm, special.
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