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The Christmas and New Years Holidays are my Least Favorite Time of the Year
Ba-humbug! It's the most horrible time of the year.

Everything about this time of year is the epitome of suck. Each year it gets more and more miserable and I don't know why. Here are my reasons:

1. Back when I was single, it was a game desert. Good luck finding a single girl this time of year. New Year's Eve parties? Forget about it..Thankfully, I get to spend a quiet day with my wife instead of drinking away my biting angst sitting amongst crazy family members.

2. What's the original point of Christmas? To celebrate the birth of Jesus? Not even! Jesus was born on March 1st 7BC and anyone with a star chart can you show a curious conjunction of several planets in the constellation of Pisces around that time to prove it (fun reading: http://www.thebigpitcher.org/2010/10/21/...us-christ/) So why do we celebrate it? Ah yes, it's the solstice and a bunch of long dead pagans found it relevant to celebrate it so let's just conveniently claim Jesus was born on this day to get a bunch of woodland spirit worshipers to join over.

3. Christmas music. It's not like it starts creeping earlier and earlier each year. I thought I heard jingle bells playing on October 18th. I am sick of the hearing the same crappy Christmas music over and over again. If I hear that stupid Paul McCartney Christmas song again, i'm going to go postal.

4. Buying expensive gifts. Thankfully, this year we've elected to do a secret santa for the whole family instead of a massive gift exchange. Years before, however, it's a gift madhouse and businesses know this. Don't think they aren't jacking up the prices for this. I get happy when I hear that retailers didn't meet their Q4 Christmas goals for the year prior in late Jan/early Feb.

5. It's cold. Winter sucks, except for winter sports and even then the cold still sucks. I'm happy I now live in a climate where I can treat snow like a cute novelty instead of a forced yearly experience of hell.

What else drives you nuts about this time of year?
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I love Christmas. Hopefully Santa gets my letter. I just want one thing...

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Some parts are good and some tend not to be for me. I always seemed to have a girl close at Christmas in my older teenage years and for the last two Christmas' have been with a solid girl.

The commercialism and how wound up certain family members get over plans for Christmas (not so much now as only see immediate family such as parents, gf, grandparents). Christmas is for the kids and the way some 'adults' get fussy about presents is unbelievable. I only buy for immediate family as my cousins and some others have an unspoken 'no presents for adults' rule. The original point has definitely been lost but I am hearing of more people not giving gifts to each other and no cards while just greeting each other on the day or messaging each other if you are not seeing them. More people are realizing it is a time that should be spent with those closest with good food and drinks.

I have done well this year though. Still not heard a single Christmas song as any shopping is done online and do not watch tv/listen to radio.

It was -10 celsius (14F) here on Sunday but I do not mind the weather. It is the lack of vitamin D that drives me nuts. So if possible always have a trip planned south for January and take lots of Vitamin D tablets.
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I had hard times for many many years around the holidays after my parents split up. Add to that, stress from "family" who never visit or talk to me throughout the year (unless they need something) who magically want me to come visit and be "family". Even though, whenever I invite them to visit me whenever, they turn me down 100% of the time, stand me up or their wives get "sick" year after year, decade after decade.

I went through a years of sadness, depression, anger and rage for far too long. Every year after the fall time change came and it started getting darker I would just shut down, knowing the holidays were around the corner and I became a real piece of shit. I couldn't function with friends, with women, or at work until spring. Looking back, it was my own damn fault for holding on to friendships and family ties that didn't really exist.

A few years back I started a policy of only going to visit people on holidays who visited me or called unsolicited at some point throughout the previous year. It really showed me who my real friends and family were.

I realized as the years have passed, I had a lot of people who wanted to use me because they needed something but how few real friends or family I had in my former life.

I've started putting my efforts around the holidays in to real friendships and have made family bonds elsewhere over the last few years and have found a lot of peace in that.

Hell, I might even put up a tree again one of these years if I can keep my dog from pissing on it.
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12-11-2017 09:30 PM
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I like the Christmas season a lot, but being almost thirty, the whole process of figuring out, buying, and wrapping gifts is a headache and costly. When you're a kid it's great because you get a huge haul of awesome stuff, but now the gift giving is a huge net loss as I end up spending way more than I get back in gifts from people.

Plus, as an adult, most of the things I would want, like high-quality clothing items or music gear, are way outside the budget for anybody buying me stuff, so I have to populate my Christmas list with things that I'd need to buy anyway but which aren't really enjoyable.

I do enjoy giving gifts to family members and know that it's not about selfishly trying to get the better end of the deal, but I wish there was a way to simplify it and make things more meaningful. One of the things I didn't necessarily anticipate about adulthood was that stuff I can buy for myself and spend whatever I want on it tends to be a lot more enjoyable than getting things I don't really want from other people.
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(12-11-2017 09:30 PM)IvanDrago Wrote:  I had hard times for many many years around the holidays after my parents split up.

I hear that. Christmas makes me think of broken families and disappointment. There's nothing worse than receiving a present you hate; you feel guilty for being ungrateful, but you never asked for the damn thing in the first place.

I don't inflict my negativity onto others, mind you; I just don't feel particularly jolly, and I have no interest in celebrating with anybody else. Christmas day, I'll stay home and watch a few horror movies. As for the Christianity angle, I far prefer Easter.

I'm glad others enjoy it, but it's just not for me. I do appreciate the time off of work, though - it gives me the space to focus on my own projects.

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I hate Christmas too. The music is like Thanksgiving turkey. If it was actually good, we'd eat it year round instead of eating dry mounds of bird flesh only once a year. We eat beef, chicken, beef and pork year round because steak, hot wings and bacon are all awesome. People get excited about turkey for no good reason. Same goes for Christmas music. If the style of music used was enjoyable to listen to, people would listen to the same style of music year round. Because it sucks and everyone hates it. Fuck you retailers for choosing music that sucks because you know nostalgia prompts people to spend money they don't have to buy gifts that no one wants 50% of the time.

Exchanging gifts becomes especially stupid once you're an adult, have far more disposable income than any of your underachieving family members and are on a mission to own less junk, not more. I'd tell my family members to just save the money towards to a ticket to come visit me in Asia for the first time ever, but given how much money they put into each person's Christmas gift each year, they'd be saving for 20 years before they could afford a round trip....because they are underachievers with very limited disposable income.

Oh, and by the way, none of you or your annoying children are going to be getting a gift from Uncle Suits because I put my significantly superior disposable income towards paying for intercontinental flights back to North America to visit your selfish asses that can't be bothered to spend any money to come see me. A trip like that is just a couple grand at the most, but the rest of my money is dedicated towards making up for the childhood I didn't have because my parents decided to have 5 kids and 4 of those children did their best to ensure that my childhood was as miserable as possible, as they jockeyed for position on the totem pole of "who gets the most attention from mom and dad."

So that's why any travel I do during the winter season is always to a warm, sunny island full of women eager for me to give them a white Christmas all over their faces, instead of returning to cold as ass Canada for a Christmas that a couple of family members are certain to ruin by making it all about them.

Christmas was the worst time of year when I was a kid. I never got any cool toys. All the kids in my neighbourhood got awesome Christmas gifts, but I never got anything cool, because as my parents described it, "they didn't want to buy their kids' love -- they wanted to show them real love." In actuality, I didn't get a lot of real love either because when your parents pop out 5 kids instead of owning a TV, all the attention goes to the neediest children i.e. the girls and whoever happens to be the youngest at any given moment.

Christmas was always ruined by trips to see the grandparents. Instead of having two weeks off of school to do whatever the fuck you wanted, you had to go to grandma's, attend extra church services on top of going on Sunday and put up with mom and dad being super strict because they wanted to impress grandma and grandpa with how awesome they were at parenting. How lame.

Once I reached adulthood, I discovered that while Christmas universally sucks as a holiday, NY's Eve is awesome...as long as you don't spend it with family. It's my favourite holiday of the year and usually involves wild partying of some kind for me. Never a disappointment.
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I understand you, bro, believe me. Nothing more depressing than waking up in the morning of December 25th with the worst hangover of your life, the house is a mess, upside down, garbage everywhere... You are a mess... Feel dehydratated, with a headache. You are hungry, but you don't really want to eat, you feel nausea, like vomiting... You hate the stupid presents your family gave you, but you had to pretend that you really loved them the night before. You turn on the TV and there it is... A marathon of 'Home Alone', 'It's a Wonderful Life', 'Miracle on 34th St', and of course, the nth 'John Denver's Christmas Special'. The horror... The horror...

With God's help, I'll conquer this terrible affliction.

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Over the years I've become adept at missing Christmas with family. During my time at the academy, I worked a part-time campus job for a 24-7-365 service, so I'd pick-up extra hours during the holidays when no one else wanted to work and get time-and-a-half pay for several of the days. My parents supported my effort to make enough money to continue to pay for school (because they couldn't afford to help me, despite have very specific opinions about where I should go to school), so it was easy to miss the holidays. I'd come visit after the official holidays were over and enjoy seeing family without all the pressure that accompanies Christmas. The pressure is always the result of female family members who want a very specific Christmas experience and therefore feel entitled to police everyone else's actions, because narcissism.

Now that I live in Asia and still have some student debt remaining, I have an iron clad excuse. "Flights are too expensive over the holiday period!" I'll explain every year. No one can justify telling me how to spend my own money and they certainly aren't going to offer to pitch in and get me an intercontinental flight home. I then visit on my own terms at some other point in the year.

This isn't the main reason I live in Asia, but it's a massive perk.
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(12-11-2017 10:09 PM)Suits Wrote:  Over the years I've become adept at missing Christmas with family. During my time at the academy, I worked a part-time campus job for a 24-7-365 service, so I'd pick-up extra hours during the holidays when no one else wanted to work and get time-and-a-half pay for several of the days. My parents supported my effort to make enough money to continue to pay for school (because they couldn't afford to help me, despite have very specific opinions about where I should go to school), so it was easy to miss the holidays. I'd come visit after the official holidays were over and enjoy seeing family without all the pressure that accompanies Christmas. The pressure is always the result of female family members who want a very specific Christmas experience and therefore feel entitled to police everyone else's actions, because narcissism.

Now that I live in Asia and still have some student debt remaining, I have an iron clad excuse. "Flights are too expensive over the holiday period!" I'll explain every year. No one can justify telling me how to spend my own money and they certainly aren't going to offer to pitch in and get me an intercontinental flight home. I then visit on my own terms at some other point in the year.

This isn't the main reason I live in Asia, but it's a massive perk.

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I enjoy doing travel on Christmas. I went to Israel a few years ago and enjoyed it a lot.

I might start making it a tradition if I end up having to move to a cold climate. Take a flight to a resort in the tropics or something.
12-11-2017 10:19 PM
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Try working in hospitality.

Ever since I was 19 I've worked damn near every Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Years. Think about that.

My own mom is dead. My dad and the rest of my family live far away. It's fine, we don't have a tight knit family anyway.

But then here I am working the holidays watching these fat fucking families waddling in to whatever restaurant I'm working at because they're too lazy to cook and/or the wives don't ever know how. Half of my staff is on vacation so I run with a lean crew and wind up doing a lot of the cooking myself...it's definitely one of the worst parts of being a chef.

The only good news is there's a bit of an underground culture of hospitality workers...and once all the work bullshit is over we typically get together for some proper degeneracy involving top shelf liquor, cocaine, and fucking.

The music is awful, the food sucks, people are stressed out and miserable due to consumerism.

My next priority in life is to leave the U.S. in the middle of November every year and come back on January 2nd. Spend 6 weeks in Asia skiing my ass off and surrounded by good people that don't celebrate these god-forsaken holidays. I'm genuinely happy that Trump is bringing back Christmas to the white house to trigger all the fucktards in CA and NYC, but aside from that I could happily go the rest of my life without dealing with another holiday.

Fuck Christmas, think I outscrooged you Suits...what you got boy

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(12-11-2017 10:19 PM)Veloce Wrote:  Fuck Christmas, think I outscrooged you Suits...



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(12-11-2017 10:09 PM)Suits Wrote:  The pressure is always the result of female family members who want a very specific Christmas experience and therefore feel entitled to police everyone else's actions, because narcissism.

I hear you, it's always been the queen bees over here who raise hell year round and then expect the entire family be at their place dressed to kill so they can facebookshit staged happy family photos.

However, last year, two of my sister in laws who laid waste to my ties with my brothers and nephews/nieces years ago have a couple sons in college. The boys have been on leashes their whole lives and rarely get to see me or their grandparents. Last year, the two boys didn't come back for christmas. They instead spent the time with their girlfriend's families.

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Here's hoping it happens again this year! BananaBananaBanana
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The "holiday spirit" is for chicks and small children (but I'm repeating myself), so there's no need for men to catch it.

I'm digging up this gem about the holidays from Tuth:

Quote:With the possible exception of Santa Claus, no man does better with bitches over the holidays. Like nectarines or oranges, pussy is a seasonal fruit that starts desiccating in the fall and all but disappears from stores around Thanksgiving. If you’re a forager who didn’t squirrel away something during bountiful times, you’ll be fighting over scraps during the starving season.

I’ve never met a single, straight man who likes the holidays, and then also does well with women. And, if you think about it, it makes perfect sense: the holidays are a massive inconvenience to the average bachelor. They offer nothing to him. If you’re in a big city or college town, girls go home to wherever they transplanted from. In other cases, friends, cousins, college roommates, ex-boyfriends, and every other possible pest comes out of the woodwork to “visit.” Girls enter a psychological state of mind that’s antagonistic to banging. And, that only speaks to those who have managed to remain single through the winter. Many of the better chicks snatched up short-term “boyfriends” in the fall and started to disappear from the public by the time Daylight Savings ended. Even the girls you are banging can become flakier when holiday commitments start rearing their ugly heads.

The holiday season is antithetical to banging girls. It's a month built for families, nostalgia, and buying shit. The religious aspect of the it all faded long ago. Let them have their day, catch up with family if you can tolerate each other, and be ready for the pimping season to begin again.
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I'll definitely say that as I get older I appreciate Thanksgiving and Halloween more and more and Christmas and New Years less and less.

Thanksgiving seems like something really special to be spent with loved ones while Christmas is very commercialized (though fortunately my family keeps that out and family and Jesus in, plus we're all good cooks - if you've never had a small brined turkey you're missing out - it's like discovering a whole new meat), while Halloween is infinitely more fun and easier to get laid or at least some leads than New Years with its insanely overcrowded and expensive bars and restaurants.
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(12-11-2017 10:19 PM)Veloce Wrote:  My next priority in life is to leave the U.S. in the middle of November every year and come back on January 2nd. Spend 6 weeks in Asia skiing my ass off and surrounded by good people that don't celebrate these god-forsaken holidays.

That's a goal of mine as well. Being full-location independent isn't important to me as there's a lot to be gained by having a established community wherever you live.

However, I would very much like to be able to spend April-November in one part of the world and then escape to the tropics December through March.

That's probably when things will hit the fan with some family members, as I'll no longer have a built in excuse to not visit during the holidays, but that's their problem, not mine.

To be fair, my family is hardly that difficult to deal with compared to many people's families. There is no alcoholism or major issue. Just silly, childish stuff that I'd rather avoid. As a whole, the family gets along fairly well without any drama that gets drawn out year after year.

That being said, I did receive multiple reports of an epic 6 hour argument between 6 or 7 family members during the annual family summer camping trip two years ago. This year there was no family camping trip. Glad I wasn't around for that.

I find it's best to see family on a more individual basis and avoid that large gatherings unless it is for a wedding.
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Christmas is about family; if you having a large loving family and you get to travel it's great. It still does suck if you don't have a steady girl around this time, because game is very slow. The quality left is horrible.

I'm definitely not repeating this years' mistakes and I'll be getting a girl for next winter.
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Last Thanksgiving I stayed at a hotel in downtown Chicago. I took a walk around the city, got a sub and watched football. My mom knew about it and thought I'd be sad and lonely, but it was fantastic. One of the best holidays I've had.

I used to come up with excuses for why I couldn't make it to holiday parties, but now I don't even give a shit. I tell them I won't be coming, and that we can hang out another time. I don't hate my family or anything, although many of them are a pain in the ass to be around, but these parties are annoying and boring as shit. The holiday season isn't stressful when you stop caring.

I gave up booze a few months ago and that's another reason not to go to these things.
12-12-2017 12:04 AM
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RE: The Christmas and New Years Holidays are my Least Favorite Time of the Year
May just be a stage. I went through a brief period of hating the holidays, from around 20 until around 45.

In hindsight, it was a combination of irritating relatives, seasonal affect disorder, intense boredom from forced inactivity for a week or more, the unsatisfying quest for gifts to give, and the stress of travel peculiar to the holiday season. When you spend a day each way traveling through the worst airport in America, with a fifty-fifty shot that you're going to get marooned there for a month because a snowflake showed up on weather radar somewhere within a 500-mile radius, to spend a week or so trapped in your childhood home with nothing to do and relatives who at best ignore you, under skies so gloomy you keep the curtains drawn and only go out after dark so as to minimize the stifling sense of despair, to give and receive gifts that neither you nor they actually want, yeah, it sucks.

It got much less stressful when we decided not to give gifts to non-minors and focus more on dinner as the prime event of the day. Christmas started to be fun again when I was able to have it at my place where the weather is nicer and I wasn't the one who had to travel.

The trick is identifying and eliminating or minimizing the elements of the season that ruin it for you. Maybe find or make a holiday tradition that you can actually look forward to - like a secret charity donation, or taking the wife/GF for a fancy dinner as a reward after the unavoidable shopping/decorating is done, or some clever and mysterious gift you arrange without acknowledging it ("Honestly, honey, I have no earthly idea where that came from"), or getting shitfaced on a really good bourbon fruitcake (they do exist). Set aside what you hate about the season and make it your own instead.

For example, my (very alpha by all accounts) grandfather's personal tradition was, like Pa Ingalls, a peculiar treat that he never indulged in except on Christmas day: canned oysters. No matter how much of a pain in the ass the holiday season was, he always had that little luxury of his own to look forward to while the kids were tearing open gifts.
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12-12-2017 12:37 AM
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RE: The Christmas and New Years Holidays are my Least Favorite Time of the Year
If you’re single, the holidays are designed to remind you of that fact.

I haven’t been excited over Christmas in almost 30 years. To me it was a big build up, and then a let down the day after New Years when you had to go back to the grind of school in the dead of winter. Nothing to look forward to until mid March when the weather finally started to break.

I never much cared for New Years either. It signified the end of the hype. Then in high school you’d always get some cunt teacher who would assign you work over the break that you had to do within a 1-2 day window. The only memorable New Year’s Eve was ‘99. My sister brought home one of her sorority sisters. She promptly made her way to my bedroom to celebrate.

Aside from that it’s all pretty meh to me.
12-12-2017 12:41 AM
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RE: The Christmas and New Years Holidays are my Least Favorite Time of the Year
New Years is a very overrated holiday. It's maybe a 2 hour party tops.
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12-12-2017 12:49 AM
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RE: The Christmas and New Years Holidays are my Least Favorite Time of the Year
After discovering Roosh et al towards the end of 2014, I had my significant event/pivotal moment regarding women on Christmas Eve the following year, so I really don't look forward to it at all.
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