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RE: Need someone who can « read » a painting
Suits would be honored to hear from you! Please PM me your email (I'll delete the PM as soon as I receive it, no worry) because the email system of the forum is fucked up.

I do need to keep this locked up tighter than a Mormon's girl pussy and bury this 6 feet under. Maybe you can send me some Chinese protective charms to ward off this shit. If Comte is someone to believe in (and he is) I might as well be literally under a spell right now.

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12-29-2017 05:04 AM
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It's not so much a spell but a projection, no artist can create a fully aseptic image no matter how commercial their mindset, always a bit of the soul will leave its mark in the work.
OP, the problem with the kind of lass I'm beginning to imagine you tangled with is that because she will not be able to manifest the horrors in paper she will adapt them to vulgar and extremely annoying means. If you're banging her, don't be surprised if she cucks you or is using you to cuck someone else-all in hopes of seeing you Duke it out for her or is she wants to put a finger up your butt. Etc

Advice :
If you have to go in;pump and dump. And for Chtulu's sake, use double rubbers!!!! .
(Use of holy water and cleansing fire optional)

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12-29-2017 07:45 AM
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RE: Need someone who can « read » a painting
I will use one anecdote OP will surely understand. You can think of legends about forging katanas. Artisan becomes so fully immersed into his work and even though result is truly a fine work, it can be said that it has essence of its creator. His passions, vices and virtues, etc. Chinese call this Wu and I am not sure of its Japanese word equivalent.

There was one particular story about smiths Masamune and Muramasa. They lived centuries apart but this story puts them in the same age. One day they wanted to compete who would make a better sword and Muramasa was pretty sure he would emerge victorious.
After they made their swords, they stick them vertically in one creek with edges pointing upstream. When fishes and leaves got to the Muramasa's sword, sword cut them in half and Muramasa was very pleased with that. But when fishes and leaves got to the Masamune's sword, they simple went around it and Muramasa laughed how bad this sword was supposed to be.

One monk watched the whole scene and even though he bowed to both of them, he praised only the Masamune's sword, much to the Muramasa's surprise. Well, Muramasa's sword was a bloodthirsty blade and didn't really want to distinguish between anything, it just wanted to cut whatever it came across, whereas Masamune's sword was a gentle but still deadly blade.

The point of this is that essence of masters got into their swords. Masamune was regarded as a good guy, a philosopher and a master of craft, but Muramasa was reported to be an unpleasant person and nobody liked him.
Even supposedly first shogun of Tokugawa shogunata, Tokugawa Ieyasu, cut himself on sword and when he learned it was work of Muramasa, he forbid his samurai to use his swords.

We all hear this story over and over again, it may not always be a sword in question, but it doesn't make the thing any different. In your case, it's a painting.
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12-29-2017 08:18 AM
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I know an artist, a good friend of mine. We talked, some time ago, how an artist can reflect his/her mood and inner turnmoil in his/her works. SHe told me how once, after a big fight with her boyfriend (now husband) she drew something to ease her mind, and finally destroyed the drawing because of the "bad feelings" the drawing gave her. She is a "sensible" girl, and she told me the drawing gave her a very big sense of dread.

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12-29-2017 08:31 AM
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(12-29-2017 08:31 AM)Mekorig Wrote:  I know an artist, a good friend of mine. We talked, some time ago, how an artist can reflect his/her mood and inner turnmoil in his/her works. SHe told me how once, after a big fight with her boyfriend (now husband) she drew something to ease her mind, and finally destroyed the drawing because of the "bad feelings" the drawing gave her. She is a "sensible" girl, and she told me the drawing gave her a very big sense of dread.

This is exactly I was talking about. Like I said the girl is just your cute shy girl next door type, but artist types express their anguish and emotional better on paper. It's unconscious, sometimes they dont even know why they did what they did. That's why it's so incredible and worrying at the same time.

What, you guys think I did not subtly ask the girl why she drew what she did? She said she didn't do anything special, she was just drawing it, it was "just a portrait". Yet nobody normal or crazy will say that it's a "normal" portrait.

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12-29-2017 08:49 AM
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(12-29-2017 08:49 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  
(12-29-2017 08:31 AM)Mekorig Wrote:  I know an artist, a good friend of mine. We talked, some time ago, how an artist can reflect his/her mood and inner turnmoil in his/her works. SHe told me how once, after a big fight with her boyfriend (now husband) she drew something to ease her mind, and finally destroyed the drawing because of the "bad feelings" the drawing gave her. She is a "sensible" girl, and she told me the drawing gave her a very big sense of dread.

This is exactly I was talking about. Like I said the girl is just your cute shy girl next door type, but artist types express their anguish and emotional better on paper. It's unconscious, sometimes they dont even know why they did what they did. That's why it's so incredible and worrying at the same time.

What, you guys think I did not subtly ask the girl why she drew what she did? She said she didn't do anything special, she was just drawing it, it was "just a portrait". Yet nobody normal or crazy will say that it's a "normal" portrait.


I would say, first try to know her mental/emotional state. Is she well? Did she have any family/work/etc problems right now? Is she hearing voices? XD Then after knowing that try to get the reasons on why she did the portrait for you.

BTW Dalaran, i would love to see the portrait if posible, you got my curiosity, but i would understand if you want to keep it private.

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12-29-2017 09:15 AM
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(12-29-2017 04:38 AM)Dalaran1991 Wrote:  Ok guys, after talking with Comte I decided this shit is a whole lot more serious, I can't talk about it this openly.

Thanks for all the offers for help. I'll send a PM to some of you in which case stock up your popcorn, but please dont take it personally if you don't hear from me.

Of course I should jump ship, but as a man, imagining you are looking down at a dark tunnel leading to an uncharted territories full of danger, how many of you will turn back? Cause I'm going in.

This shit is so fucked up dangerous but so exciting at the same time!!! If I pull through this I'll have stories to tell for the rest of my life!

[Image: djkl341.jpg]

I'm not one to analyse crazy people's drawings. But crazy is my stock in trade so I know it when I see it.

Dalaran, I love the chutzpah & the commitment to explore your "shadow" as Jung would put it! These are the times we really get to peer into the abyss!

Go & get amongst that crazy! Keep your wits about you & report back with your Dantean escapades! Looking forward to it!
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12-29-2017 06:50 PM
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I am very curious now and would like to see the painting. If you're comfortable PMing it to me, that is.

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12-30-2017 01:34 AM
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I've tried it on 3 different computers at different locations today but haven't been able to successfully see the image.

Dalaran: why don't you just ask her about the work? "What's the significance of this? What's the symbolism of the shadow?", etc. It'd be a hell of a lot easier than all this speculation, particularly as most artists love being asked about their creations.

I'll try a mate's computer later.

RE: the mirrors. She might use two mirrors for life drawing. The subject sits between them at right angles. Hard to tell without being there.

Is there occult shit around the house? Tarot Cards? Tim Burton movies?
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OK, I finally got it to work.

Calm down.

Unless there's something in the calligraphy, there's nothing there that reads as creepy to me that couldn't be explained by her simply being a young artist and lacking the experience that would make what she's aiming for in the picture 'come off' better.

I was expecting Rivers of Blood, Years of Darkness.

[Image: the_evil_within_by_jcdow3-d5jy9wi.jpg]

Instead, the picture seems benign.

All I see is a young artist trying to use the shadow to add depth and perspective but she doesn't yet have a good handle on it. The cherry blossom tree isn't growing out of you. It reads more like she was trying to sell a metaphorical association of you with a Cherry Blossom - a fading in gradually from the white background - and she's simply chosen a poor place to start it. She should have done a thumbnail sketch to assign better proportions for the image to start with.

Whilst it could be blood or bleeding - did you take her cherry? - I could also see the traditional custom of tying ribbons to tree branches that is shared across many Asian cultures, badly done.

[Image: 1.jpg]

[Image: 1379610603_content_Hang_in_Trees.jpg]

Since it's a watercolour, it's also entirely-possible the paint ran on her when she didn't dry her brush enough, so she tried to repeat the mistake of a 'bleeding flower' so it looked intentional. I often use mistakes in my music, taking it as evidence of my subconscious intention, but most artists are insecure about this kind of thing and often use pretension as a shield against criticism.

If you want to know, ask.

You're sitting proudly and looking like a strong, disciplined man to my eyes. She obviously-adores you. It's possible she was trying to associate you with beauty (the cherry blossom) and strength and resilience (even if the tree is bleeding, it stands in place with an air of nobility).

Remember when I said, she might just have bad taste, where she's trying beyond her abilities? I don't see it as 'bad', just youthful and inexperienced. She'll improve. A high school girlfriend of mine used to be at that level, and she's far, far beyond that today.

It looks nothing like BiPolar or Schizophrenic art. It's minimalist, with a limited but logical colour palette. There's no obsession there.

I wouldn't worry unless she voices an interest in the occult to you. I'd expect the usual Artist Girl hijinks. Enjoy the ride, the crazy sex, but understand, that's a painting by a girl who is already in love with you.
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I've seen the painting, but didn't find it too creepy. Honestly, I think it may be an example of a quick sketch resembling things it was not intended to resemble more so than an actual attempt to summon the satanic. Upon seeing the painting itself, I was a little let down by how commonplace it was.
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For contrast, here's two works by Bi-Polar artists. Note how there's the glorification of ugliness, rather than beauty.

[Image: bipolar_by_thegirlinthebigbox.jpg]

[Image: 4f22376c4290b6b455cf7600be7a3987--bipola...sorder.jpg]

Your girl is aiming for structure and beauty rather than disorder and ugliness. She just is still learning her craft.
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(12-30-2017 05:25 AM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  ...there's the glorification of ugliness, rather than beauty.

Which is, of course, also what's going on with the tats and piercing craze, in which a woman's body and sense of fashion is her canvas.
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