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(02-13-2018 11:17 PM)Mr.GoodThread Wrote:  Part of this thread was very disheartening, but those that actually have boots down on the ground say that it's not that bad, so I will hold out hope.

I haven't been back in Japan since 4 years. I was in a relationship with a Japanese girl for nearly 12 years (2.5 years married). We officially divorced (thankfully it was the complete opposite of messy). By the time I make it back to Japan (2019 the latest) I will be 34 years old, but on good days with a fresh haircut I can appear to be in my twenties. Since I was in such a long relationship that just ended about a year ago, I have been completely devoid of practicing "game" (it's just my current reality). I plan to re-learn some Japanese before I head back there. I'm Hispanic, but can potentially pass for white or mixed with white (if that helps).

Anyone know if the popularity of the "Despacito" song has helped out Hispanics (or Hispanic-Americans) with the ladies?

Before I head back to Japan I plan to re-establish my confidence and up my skills in all areas of life.

Until I get there, please don't fuck things up too much for me guys. Wrap it up, don't have any unwanted babies, and happy banging.

Any chance you'd be willing to do a write up about your relationship and marriage? I'm interested to hear your thoughts as a Hispanic who was married to an asian, like I was.
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I might try to see if I can get around to it, but in reality I am Hispanic-American since I was born and raised in the USA. Also, my Asian ex-wife had studied for one year in Australia and has parents that were always relatively welcoming of foreigners. Her father worked for a watch company in Europe and actually enjoyed his time there. I kind of had it easy. Also my nonchalant, not-easy-to-get-offended attitude (since I'm from New York City) probably gave me tough skin as well.

If you have any specific questions though, then maybe I can answer those, but I don't want to hijack the thread since it's more related to what's going on in Japan currently (and that's actually what I'm interested in knowing about).
02-14-2018 12:15 AM
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Problem is I dont have a wingman. All my gaijin wingmen went over to Tokyooo
02-14-2018 01:05 AM
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Guys, this is my first post on this site, so if I am breaking any rule apologies in advance. Just have one main question (which is somewhat out of context from what i have been reading so far in the tread, so if this is the wrong place/time for this then again, my bad)....

If one were to learn Japanese both spoken and all the writing systems (within reason on the Kanji... 2300 etc), and achieve JLPT N1 (both done independently) would it be possible or viable to go there and open a Eikaiwa/small school and make.... say... $70k a year or more? Is that kind of demand still there for English? Viable as an independent solo guy? Will I be run out but competition/yakuza or some shit?? Do I need some other angle to make it pop out AT ALL vs the other schools (I have considered using music to teach as I play some instruments)

Also, I have a B.A. am from the US and I aint a white guy either (if it matters)... Pushing 30... no kids or wife (fuck that).

Thanks
02-14-2018 04:24 AM
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(02-14-2018 04:24 AM)jusblaze99 Wrote:  If one were to learn Japanese both spoken and all the writing systems (within reason on the Kanji... 2300 etc), and achieve JLPT N1 (both done independently) would it be possible or viable to go there and open a Eikaiwa/small school and make.... say... $70k a year or more?

You would really need to think what your unique value proposition is. The big companies are in every city and Japanese people prefer businesses that appear well respected.

China is where the big money is if you have a good unique value proposition, which mostly seems to be in relation to prepping teens to get into ivy league'ish colleges these days it seems, but the business environment is also 100x less straight forward and full of sharks that might steal / destroy your business.
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(02-14-2018 07:29 AM)AsiaBaller Wrote:  
(02-14-2018 04:24 AM)jusblaze99 Wrote:  If one were to learn Japanese both spoken and all the writing systems (within reason on the Kanji... 2300 etc), and achieve JLPT N1 (both done independently) would it be possible or viable to go there and open a Eikaiwa/small school and make.... say... $70k a year or more?

You would really need to think what your unique value proposition is. The big companies are in every city and Japanese people prefer businesses that appear well respected.

China is where the big money is if you have a good unique value proposition, which mostly seems to be in relation to prepping teens to get into ivy league'ish colleges these days it seems, but the business environment is also 100x less straight forward and full of sharks that might steal / destroy your business.


Hmmmm, alright thanks! I actually really initially (and still do) wanted to learn Mandarin and move to China, but.... Mandarin is fucking impossible to learn alone and I don't know if I wanna set up base in China (smog, anti US stuff, internet wall etc) just seemed risky to go all in on. IDK though but thanks
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(02-14-2018 04:24 AM)jusblaze99 Wrote:  Guys, this is my first post on this site, so if I am breaking any rule apologies in advance. Just have one main question (which is somewhat out of context from what i have been reading so far in the tread, so if this is the wrong place/time for this then again, my bad)....

If one were to learn Japanese both spoken and all the writing systems (within reason on the Kanji... 2300 etc), and achieve JLPT N1 (both done independently) would it be possible or viable to go there and open a Eikaiwa/small school and make.... say... $70k a year or more? Is that kind of demand still there for English? Viable as an independent solo guy? Will I be run out but competition/yakuza or some shit?? Do I need some other angle to make it pop out AT ALL vs the other schools (I have considered using music to teach as I play some instruments)

Also, I have a B.A. am from the US and I aint a white guy either (if it matters)... Pushing 30... no kids or wife (fuck that).

Thanks

You'll never learn it unless you spend a couple years there and study daily. Learn katakana, hiragana, and the first year college level very well. It's enough to lay chicks that are into you. (j-girls aren't too demanding if you are cute.) It also will be enough to impress (done easily because of xenophobic views about foreigners not being able to learn the language).
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(02-09-2018 12:11 PM)C-Note Wrote:  It does often seem to be true that there's a certain "type" of Japanese girl who serially dates English teachers and/or American military dudes.  

Yes there are. The Japanese have a term for girls who serially date foreigners. (gaisen -- short for gaijinsenyou. [外人専用]
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I wouldn't be surprised if the decline mentioned by the OP corresponded with the downfall of the Nova eikaiwa chain in the mid-2000s. This was a big scandal that made many people skeptical of English education and probably had fallout for how the foreign community was viewed (which isn't really fair since Japanese at the top of Nova were behind it.)
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(03-26-2018 06:41 PM)HermeticAlly Wrote:  I wouldn't be surprised if the decline mentioned by the OP corresponded with the downfall of the Nova eikaiwa chain in the mid-2000s. This was a big scandal that made many people skeptical of English education and probably had fallout for how the foreign community was viewed (which isn't really fair since Japanese at the top of Nova were behind it.)

I think it did make some difference. Nova's strategy was to have a school at every major train station in Japan. With the physical locations and billboards everywhere, studying English was hugely visible. Now an eikaiwa is something you have to seek out, whereas before they were like Starbucks.

The Japanese guy who owned Nova was hilariously corrupt, when it went down I believe they found a huge sex cave in his office as well.

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(03-26-2018 05:16 PM)TETSUESQUE Wrote:  
(02-09-2018 12:11 PM)C-Note Wrote:  It does often seem to be true that there's a certain "type" of Japanese girl who serially dates English teachers and/or American military dudes.  

Yes there are. The Japanese have a term for girls who serially date foreigners. (gaisen -- short for gaijinsenyou. [外人専用]

I spat coffee out reading that term. I'm going to ask my girls after sex next time, 'きみ外専なの?' tard
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^ ha, I don't recommend saying that. It's highly offensive.

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(03-27-2018 12:43 AM)Bushido Wrote:  ^ ha, I don't recommend saying that. It's highly offensive.

of course but I think I'll frame it as a question. "do you know what is gaisen? My friend asked me and I wonder if you know? You know, I dont know aaaanything, im a baka gaijin" Banana
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Some days I miss living in Japan. I was there for two years working for the us government so didn't have to deal directly with japanese work culture but I loved my off work lifestyle. Met lots of cool foreigners and dating was good.
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I couldn't find a better thread for this.





Japan is not just declining for Westerners. It seems to be somewhat lacking in care for its own people. Maybe this is just sensationalist shit. But that whole concept of Filial piety?

It's just that everyone paints Japan to be such a family orientated society and it seems that it's not always that way.

I don't know. This guy has his story to tell, and the stories of those that are no longer around to speak.

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As the op I was nova right before it went down in there large osaka office. That place sucked lol. Used it for the visa in between grad school years. I heard the collapse was apocalyptic.
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(01-29-2018 07:55 PM)Denzel Wrote:  Stay awesome.

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(03-22-2019 10:14 PM)Rigsby Wrote:  It's just that everyone paints Japan to be such a family orientated society and it seems that it's not always that way.

Japan is a nation with strong concepts of male duty: For one's company, one's family, for society.

Women are largely absolved from this when they marry. They just chill in cafes with the girls while trash talking their husbands who are at home 1 day a week totally exhausted from work and hope some chad picks them up.

They have zero compassion for men on a much worse scale than western women. Anything that can be construed as complaining while you go through the meat grinder = you being a weak bitch.

As such a lot of men withdraw from society once their usefulness has expired - if they played the game to begin with at all.

I would guess that this dehumanization of men was engineered after WW2.

Princes of the yen is an interesting documentary in that regard:



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i would argue Japan was never a good girl or wife hunting place.

but everything else is high quality
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