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It's so.

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I have been a very good boy this year Santa, all I look for is one or two things:

1. Jones going on the Joe Rogan Podcast.

2. Better yet have him on the Rubin Report, as he admonishes Rubin for living like a gay jewish homosexual.

It would be hysterical and one for the ages. I can see the glorious frothing outrage, the headlines, the channel strikes, the anti Peterson, I want it hit like red pill nuclear bombardment. Please put these people in a room together.

Rubin: "Ok, but surely you can agree there is some sort of middle ground to be found where the lunatic liberals and fringe conservatives and all shades inbetween can come together; there is a large portion in the middle who believe, who just want to live in a free open democracy and have a new media 2.0 that is not influenced by this tabloid like journalism from the likes of CNN and..."

Jones: "Yes, Dave, having a TV in your home is like having a Jew permanently in your living room, this is all explained in my book Slaughter of Ci..."

Rubin proceeds to two finger pulling his collar on the livestream...
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Rollo Tomassi has done a few Red Pill & Religion Youtube vids, but none yet with EMJ. That's one I'd actually consider a paid YouTube subscription to watch.

Of course, YouTube would probably ban it before it was released, so moot point. It's also why Rollo is steering clear from anything with a remote chance of demonetizing him. Wish he'd risk it.

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I know squat about Rollo and his beef with El presidente de manosphero but he's smart to keep his head down right now. The social engineers will be looking for an excuse to nix him and hand a default win to the village idiot.

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@ Slickboy - Rollo despises Traditionalists. He blocked me on Twitter, before I was banned, for asking why he won’t actually speak with one instead of just insulting the concept from a distance. With enough of our prayers he may someday let the light in but last time I checked, he just thinks of Traditionalism as blue-pill male servitude.

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^I'm only slightly surprised at that. He was watching closely when they targeted Roosh and realizes he's got to choose between having a monetized online presence and uncovering inconvenient truths. That, and he really has no foundational background in religion so he has never been able to fully square the circle from red pill to God pill.

Not long ago he and some other personalities had an episode with Stephan Molyneux as a guest. At one point Stephan said "young men should just find a good Christian girl." Rollo and the rest looked around, gob-smacked, not believing a guy usually so aware just said something so naive.

On it's face, sure it is naive to expect what passes for a Christian ex-thot in a mega church to become mother Theresa. I didn't watch the vid so not sure of Stephan's exact context. Regardless, with religion Rollo always throws the baby out with the bath water before he realizes the difference between what Roosh and others in this thread are attempting to piece together versus what modern blue pilled Christianity is. I think EMJ could fill a lot of huge gaps in Rollo's understanding, but he won't risk it to the brand.

I hope one day he's got the courage to address the discussion in a more forthright manner.

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Among other topics:
- Rails a little on Sweden, Climate Change
- EMJ does a breakdown on Gretas' family. He draws some lines as to her possible motivations
- Discussion of Motherhood, Attachment Theory, Child Emotional State
- Discussion of how sex is used to subvert (of course)

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(09-25-2019 09:55 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  ^I'm only slightly surprised at that. He was watching closely when they targeted Roosh and realizes he's got to choose between having a monetized online presence and uncovering inconvenient truths. That, and he really has no foundational background in religion so he has never been able to fully square the circle from red pill to God pill.

Not long ago he and some other personalities had an episode with Stephan Molyneux as a guest. At one point Stephan said "young men should just find a good Christian girl." Rollo and the rest looked around, gob-smacked, not believing a guy usually so aware just said something so naive.

On it's face, sure it is naive to expect what passes for a Christian ex-thot in a mega church to become mother Theresa. I didn't watch the vid so not sure of Stephan's exact context. Regardless, with religion Rollo always throws the baby out with the bath water before he realizes the difference between what Roosh and others in this thread are attempting to piece together versus what modern blue pilled Christianity is. I think EMJ could fill a lot of huge gaps in Rollo's understanding, but he won't risk it to the brand.

I hope one day he's got the courage to address the discussion in a more forthright manner.

Agree totally.

Growing up Christianity was put forward to us in a very modern, blue pilled way. What we are seeing recently is the reversion of men back to a Christianity which is strong, masculine, detailed. When people talk about the decline of the west, for me it was a Red Pill to realize that only religion can fix a spiritual problem. To me the decline of the west has already taken place spiritually, and now it would time for a re awakening.

Christianity is not modern, but unchanging. Feminism is anti thetical to Christianity. Whether you call this traditional or not, doesn't matter, it is unchanging. Women are to fear their husbands, women are to submit to their husbands, couples are to be ideally formed as Virgins.

The Catholic Church today is under modernist influences, but early in the 1900s we had a Pope who created an Oath against Modernism. Modernism is the mother of all heresies.

I attend a traditional Catholic Mass format now. The families there do not use contraception. Canada is currently 38% Catholic, if even 1/3 of those stop using contraception and go Trad, we will out pace the muslim population growth, and evangelize in the immigrants. The contraception Catholics will die out, because they do not evangelize, they do not aspire, and demographically they are weak.

Those who wish to stay with the globalists will have their choice. There is a Culture War and EMJ has his finger on a lot of truth when he breaks things down. He doesn't mince words, and doesn't try to steer every topic back to a soft place, he gives hard answers to tough questions.

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@MichaelWitcoff

It must be because he perceives Traditionalist as just another version of bluepilled cuckservatism he encountered in the past which in truth denies the true Christ and what he is.

The distortions which are evident in chivalry and its modern manifestations:
https://gynocentrism.com/2013/07/14/the-...lric-love/

Note that is luckily didnt infect Eastern Europe at the time. So the Eastern European version of Traditionalism didnt manifest its cuckoldry.

Likewise the Orthodox church was shielded from Bridal Mysticism(Chapter 6):
http://podles.org/church-impotent.htm

Which also distorted Catholicism and Western Christianity resulting in today's manifestation of bluepilled "traditionalism"
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The féminisation of Christianity topic really deserves its on thread. It has been a problem for me for most of my life. It played a part in my leaving the church twenty years ago and I never went back.

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I think it's painting an incomplete picture to speak of the 'feminisation' of Christianity without speaking of what led to it, these things don't come out of nowhere.

Initially, I think the Western Church made the error of being overly legalistic, mechanic and intellectual - that is, purely masculine; which led to the feminine Reformation, the overly emotional response to an overly mechanic Church. In a sense, Vatican II was the ultimate triumph of Protestantism over mainstream Roman Catholicism. But both extremes are wrong. The mystical side, where masculine and feminine exist in simultaneous separation and communion, was lost in the West.

I've been thinking of how the East, which kept it, can gift this to the West without falling into the prideful state which led to the idea of Roman supremacy, rather than primacy.

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E. Michael Jones mentioned Rooshv and RooshV Forum in his tweets.


Owen Benjamin and E. Michael Jones finally met in real life.

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I feel honoured that EMJ is talking about my situation .
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(10-08-2019 12:09 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  
(09-25-2019 09:55 PM)SlickyBoy Wrote:  ^I'm only slightly surprised at that. He was watching closely when they targeted Roosh and realizes he's got to choose between having a monetized online presence and uncovering inconvenient truths. That, and he really has no foundational background in religion so he has never been able to fully square the circle from red pill to God pill.

Not long ago he and some other personalities had an episode with Stephan Molyneux as a guest. At one point Stephan said "young men should just find a good Christian girl." Rollo and the rest looked around, gob-smacked, not believing a guy usually so aware just said something so naive.

On it's face, sure it is naive to expect what passes for a Christian ex-thot in a mega church to become mother Theresa. I didn't watch the vid so not sure of Stephan's exact context. Regardless, with religion Rollo always throws the baby out with the bath water before he realizes the difference between what Roosh and others in this thread are attempting to piece together versus what modern blue pilled Christianity is. I think EMJ could fill a lot of huge gaps in Rollo's understanding, but he won't risk it to the brand.

I hope one day he's got the courage to address the discussion in a more forthright manner.

Agree totally.

Growing up Christianity was put forward to us in a very modern, blue pilled way. What we are seeing recently is the reversion of men back to a Christianity which is strong, masculine, detailed. When people talk about the decline of the west, for me it was a Red Pill to realize that only religion can fix a spiritual problem. To me the decline of the west has already taken place spiritually, and now it would time for a re awakening.

Christianity is not modern, but unchanging. Feminism is anti thetical to Christianity. Whether you call this traditional or not, doesn't matter, it is unchanging. Women are to fear their husbands, women are to submit to their husbands, couples are to be ideally formed as Virgins.

The Catholic Church today is under modernist influences, but early in the 1900s we had a Pope who created an Oath against Modernism. Modernism is the mother of all heresies.

I attend a traditional Catholic Mass format now. The families there do not use contraception. Canada is currently 38% Catholic, if even 1/3 of those stop using contraception and go Trad, we will out pace the muslim population growth, and evangelize in the immigrants. The contraception Catholics will die out, because they do not evangelize, they do not aspire, and demographically they are weak.

Those who wish to stay with the globalists will have their choice. There is a Culture War and EMJ has his finger on a lot of truth when he breaks things down. He doesn't mince words, and doesn't try to steer every topic back to a soft place, he gives hard answers to tough questions.

He does try to steer everyone towards "become a Catholic" as if that's the solution to problems though. I like EMJ, I've learned a lot from his books (read 6 so far). I agree that he doesn't mince words, but he also creates a lot of wide generalizations and ignores topics that he doesn't want to address. For example, he completely dismisses Nietzsche by saying he has syphilis, rather than address his actual thoughts, and that's always bothered me about him. It seems that he's more concerned with bringing people to Catholicism than to the truth.

Although, oddly enough, I will say he's the one who pushed me away from Roman Catholicism in the book "Barren Metal" with the story of Savonarola.
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(10-10-2019 06:02 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  
(10-08-2019 12:09 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  Those who wish to stay with the globalists will have their choice. There is a Culture War and EMJ has his finger on a lot of truth when he breaks things down. He doesn't mince words, and doesn't try to steer every topic back to a soft place, he gives hard answers to tough questions.

He does try to steer everyone towards "become a Catholic" as if that's the solution to problems though. I like EMJ, I've learned a lot from his books (read 6 so far). I agree that he doesn't mince words, but he also creates a lot of wide generalizations and ignores topics that he doesn't want to address. For example, he completely dismisses Nietzsche by saying he has syphilis, rather than address his actual thoughts, and that's always bothered me about him. It seems that he's more concerned with bringing people to Catholicism than to the truth.

Although, oddly enough, I will say he's the one who pushed me away from Roman Catholicism in the book "Barren Metal" with the story of Savonarola.

Yes he does steer but he has a. But its better than Jordan Petersons' "take your pill" advice. And his being direct actually pushed me a little.

I do agree that he has a tendency to look at the persons state when assessing their thought . He did it recently with Greta the Climate kid. I appreciate it, but yes, at the same point he doesn't refute as well as he can. The point is a lot of these people are not people you should admire so why listen to their shit. It reminds me of Hollywood or MSM, you can like the entertainment, but consider the source.

I actually have that book but put it down to try and work on my religion first. I'm taking some practical steps to extract my investments out of the usurial system and get into business with friends and family. I'll keep an eye out for that story specifically, or maybe just flip to the chapter and check it out.

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(10-10-2019 06:14 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  
(10-10-2019 06:02 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  
(10-08-2019 12:09 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  Those who wish to stay with the globalists will have their choice. There is a Culture War and EMJ has his finger on a lot of truth when he breaks things down. He doesn't mince words, and doesn't try to steer every topic back to a soft place, he gives hard answers to tough questions.

He does try to steer everyone towards "become a Catholic" as if that's the solution to problems though. I like EMJ, I've learned a lot from his books (read 6 so far). I agree that he doesn't mince words, but he also creates a lot of wide generalizations and ignores topics that he doesn't want to address. For example, he completely dismisses Nietzsche by saying he has syphilis, rather than address his actual thoughts, and that's always bothered me about him. It seems that he's more concerned with bringing people to Catholicism than to the truth.

Although, oddly enough, I will say he's the one who pushed me away from Roman Catholicism in the book "Barren Metal" with the story of Savonarola.

Yes he does steer but he has a. But its better than Jordan Petersons' "take your pill" advice. And his being direct actually pushed me a little.

I do agree that he has a tendency to look at the persons state when assessing their thought . He did it recently with Greta the Climate kid. I appreciate it, but yes, at the same point he doesn't refute as well as he can. The point is a lot of these people are not people you should admire so why listen to their shit. It reminds me of Hollywood or MSM, you can like the entertainment, but consider the source.

I actually have that book but put it down to try and work on my religion first. I'm taking some practical steps to extract my investments out of the usurial system and get into business with friends and family. I'll keep an eye out for that story specifically, or maybe just flip to the chapter and check it out.

You're a better man than I am in the usury part, I've got my money in investments only to ward off inflation, which I know is still wrong in principle, since I'm still acting as part of the problem.

Story spans 4 chapters (15-18), so don't be in too much of a rush.

I really liked Peterson for awhile, he had a lot of useful information but it was mainly for his ability to break down stories. Although, the more I listened to him, the more I realized he shoots himself in the foot with his utilitarianism. (which IMHO explains his depression, if only useful things are true, then the only possible end conclusion is that power is the most important thing in the world, and power makes one terribly lonely since it's the antithesis to love.)

You don't have to admire these people, ask yourself what their motivations are, and what they gain by what they preach, and you'll figure out who's worth paying attention to. Greta gains mainstream praise, attention, and money, and being a woman, it's not surprising. Nietzsche shat on society's beliefs, in search of the truth the best he could express it. You can't make many friends saying "God is dead, and you killed him". So it's worth going through him, and trying to figure if there is any validity to his claims.
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(10-09-2019 06:43 AM)ilostabet Wrote:  I think it's painting an incomplete picture to speak of the 'feminisation' of Christianity without speaking of what led to it, these things don't come out of nowhere.

Initially, I think the Western Church made the error of being overly legalistic, mechanic and intellectual - that is, purely masculine; which led to the feminine Reformation, the overly emotional response to an overly mechanic Church. In a sense, Vatican II was the ultimate triumph of Protestantism over mainstream Roman Catholicism. But both extremes are wrong. The mystical side, where masculine and feminine exist in simultaneous separation and communion, was lost in the West.

I've been thinking of how the East, which kept it, can gift this to the West without falling into the prideful state which led to the idea of Roman supremacy, rather than primacy.

I can explain this on several avenues. Note first that, as has been said, before, "atheism" (if such a thing exists) could only have arisen from western christianity for reasons you state above, though you didn't mention extreme individuality. This is a major reason, linked to others, why the effeminate would arise, and it always does with greater affluence and in very chaotic ways.
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Nietzsche was the son of a Lutheran pastor so he had an intimate knowledge of Christianity. The "God is Dead" line was referring to the decline of Christian belief in the West which was evident even in his time. This wasn't the 1960s but more close to the 1860s.

Nietzsche actually seemed to like Islam:

"Why did Christianity trample down the culture of Islam? "...[B]ecause Islam was noble, because it owed its origin to manly instincts, because it said Yes to life even in the rare and exquisite treasures of Moorish life!"

An interesting side note is, did Nietzsche ever read Kierkegaard ? (who was a Christian existentialist).

https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/que...ierkegaard

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(10-10-2019 08:32 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  You're a better man than I am in the usury part, I've got my money in investments only to ward off inflation, which I know is still wrong in principle, since I'm still acting as part of the problem.

I'm not certain that investing in publicly-traded corporations counts as usury. Yes, you are lending money at interest. But it's quite a different situation than what the authors of scripture were talking about.

I get the impression that the prohibition on usury in scripture was to prevent rich people from screwing poor people over. Like, "I'll give you 100 shekels and you repay me 120 on payday." Whereas with buying stocks, we've built an economy that relies on lending money at interest, and the interest is payed to us not by poor people but by transnational corporations.

I suspect if buying stock is wrong, then it's wrong for entirely different reasons. Not because we're shylocking and screwing the corporations over, but because we're helping large corporations that often hate our value systems. On the flip side, if everyone stopped investing and the corporations lost power, a lot of people would have to go hungry.

As you can probably tell from the above, I'm uncertain about the morality of investing. But I don't think that we can immediately dismiss it as usury. If anyone has a better way of looking at it, I'm all ears.
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Simple. By investing in a corporation you are binding yourself both to the corporation and the markets more generally.

This is why we have a neo-conservative movement that seems to give a shit about nothing as much as their precious "economy". Once your savings and retirement prospects are wedded to the markets then you're far more likely to accept any twisted administration and the evils they usher in as long as they keep the markets healthy. Conversely you are less likely to sympathize with a genuinely benevolent administration and support them if the deep state decides to punish the rebels by crashing the markets.

This is why I conservatively estimate genuine patriotism and traditionalism sits at between 10 and 20 percent in the West. Because most "conservatives" only care about conserving their retirement funds.

Aptly this is also why patriotism and traditionalism is actually growing among the post-boomer generations. Because they are increasingly poor and have no economic levers to be manipulated with.

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^ I think it was in an old ROK article where the author asked what, precisely, the "conservatives" were trying to conserve? Aside from a few tax breaks of questionable value and the 2nd Amendment, they've lost at everything, given enough time.

Trump's showing in the last election probably demonstrates the growth of patriotism and traditionalism among the ones who used to trust "conservatives" to actually conserve anything besides the Koch brother's cheap labor interests.


(10-10-2019 08:32 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  Greta gains mainstream praise, attention, and money, and being a woman, it's not surprising.

Woman? She's 16 years old - if you tried to date her in many parts of America you'd probably get arrested. Yet she's considered an "activist." What the hell qualifies her to be an activist for anything other than SnapChat rights?

BTW, I haven't finished Barren Metal yet (big assed book!) but Degenerate Moderns really connected so many dots for me and was a much needed historical counterpoint. I think of it every time I hear Rollo Tomassi reference that con artist Freud as some kind of infallible authority.

Yes, EMJ is a bit naive with respect to the current state of the sexual marketplace, but for the most part I think he's explained himself pretty well in every discussion I've heard from him so far. I wish more priests acknowledged the current socio-religious battlefield the way EMJ does.

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(10-12-2019 10:06 AM)Emperor Constantine Wrote:  
(10-10-2019 08:32 PM)Aboulia Wrote:  You're a better man than I am in the usury part, I've got my money in investments only to ward off inflation, which I know is still wrong in principle, since I'm still acting as part of the problem.

I'm not certain that investing in publicly-traded corporations counts as usury. Yes, you are lending money at interest. But it's quite a different situation than what the authors of scripture were talking about.

I get the impression that the prohibition on usury in scripture was to prevent rich people from screwing poor people over. Like, "I'll give you 100 shekels and you repay me 120 on payday." Whereas with buying stocks, we've built an economy that relies on lending money at interest, and the interest is payed to us not by poor people but by transnational corporations.

I suspect if buying stock is wrong, then it's wrong for entirely different reasons. Not because we're shylocking and screwing the corporations over, but because we're helping large corporations that often hate our value systems. On the flip side, if everyone stopped investing and the corporations lost power, a lot of people would have to go hungry.

As you can probably tell from the above, I'm uncertain about the morality of investing. But I don't think that we can immediately dismiss it as usury. If anyone has a better way of looking at it, I'm all ears.

It is impossible to avoid usury when your money is based on debt. You would have to commit to pure barter.

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10-12-2019 12:21 PM
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(10-12-2019 12:21 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  It is impossible to avoid usury when your money is based on debt. You would have to commit to pure barter.

I would say you can not completely avoid usury, but you can reduce your impact.

- But if you do not take a loan from a financial institution, your money is not 'begetting' money.
- If you keep your money in a safe and not in the bank, you are avoiding usury.
- Sign a mortgage on a property direct to your family member, without compound interest.

We also can look at the wider impacts of avoiding usury. As the financial services industry grows we find that there is less and less morality in our capitalist system. Direct investment and control of Christian money by Christians is critical. When you put your money in a stock, the power of that money is being controlled morally by those who oppose you, and who are at best neutral. When you direct it into your community, you take responsibility for the conduct of your business dealings.

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(10-12-2019 02:17 PM)NoMoreTO Wrote:  
(10-12-2019 12:21 PM)debeguiled Wrote:  It is impossible to avoid usury when your money is based on debt. You would have to commit to pure barter.

I would say you can not completely avoid usury, but you can reduce your impact.

- But if you do not take a loan from a financial institution, your money is not 'begetting' money.
- If you keep your money in a safe and not in the bank, you are avoiding usury.
- Sign a mortgage on a property direct to your family member, without compound interest.

We also can look at the wider impacts of avoiding usury. As the financial services industry grows we find that there is less and less morality in our capitalist system. Direct investment and control of Christian money by Christians is critical. When you put your money in a stock, the power of that money is being controlled morally by those who oppose you, and who are at best neutral. When you direct it into your community, you take responsibility for the conduct of your business dealings.

Agreed on general principle. Choosing a private company over a corporation is a no brainer if you want some control where you money goes and who to blame when something goes wrong.

Not everyone is savvy enough or has the time to suss out direct investment. Never mind the fact that often the people who come at you trumpeting their Christian bona fides end up being the biggest scammer.

Prayer shouldn't be forgotten even in this context though. For some reason God has been directing me to an odd investing strategy. Odd because it is right in the heart of financial markets which I distrust instinctively and always have. Odd also because I don't have any money to invest.

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