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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
(03-07-2018 03:42 PM)Easy_C Wrote:  Martin Armstrong weighed in: https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/inter...-of-facts/

Quote:In the case of South Africa, the shortage of water is very real. The people will rise up against the politicians for their careless mismanagement of the situation. The smart way to head that crisis off is to blame the white farmers at the precise moment when you need to divert the masses from the shortage of water. You always have to create the enemy. In Germany, it became the Jewish banks, then the Jewish merchants, and finally, all the Jews. Before that, to save money, the German state began to execute veterans from World War I who were costing too much money to maintain. They took them from the hospitals and executed them.


Day Zero has been pushed to next year.

We initially suspected this was a political maneuvre like the power shortages in ESKOM a few years ago, to drive up tariffs and prices for water and electricity.

The DA can then alienate Patricia De Lille (mayor) who they've been trying to get out for a while. This is without going into the investment motives of the various water based companies.

Then you consider that the Western Cape pipe leakage is 15% (confirmed by chemical and civil engineers at a presentation last night; European levels), it seems that the water crisis was not as big of a crisis as we thought.

You can't compare an ethnically homogenous country such as the US with the democrats blaming the classes with South Africa and all the various tribal power struggles happening while they try to alienate the minority.

This guy has very basic understanding of the situation and I think he is talking shit.

The Democratic Alliance is considered the 'white' party of RSA. They are responsible for the water crisis. They won't blame the white farmer and alienate their voter base; whites and middle class blacks who don't fall for ANC rhetoric.

There have been no negotiations for pipelines to pump water from adjacent provinces as the Northern and Eastern Cape (both ANC provinces) both have droughts. KwaZulu Natal came close to a drought and were saved by the rain. The climate there is tropical allowing for rainy summers as opposed to the Western side of the country.

I acknowledge Martin Armstrong's 'status' but he is giving his opinion, not actually providing any basis for it.

That's exactly what it is, an opinion.

Opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one.

Is the drought real? Yes
Is it politically motivated? Perhaps (the dealing of it, not the cause of course)

It's more of internal DA politics raising funds through this situation for 2019 elections instead of blacks vs whites. Every single political action here is a piece of the puzzle towards 2019.

But hey, sometimes it's easier to just think that.
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
(03-08-2018 04:04 AM)Noir Wrote:  They probably wanted to eat it. Top athlete barbecue is supposed to imbue you with the strength of the star. They were about to saw off both of his legs, so it was not about kidnapping and they already got the money and cash.

Normal African Tuesday morning.

Come on man, really?

The more plausible scenario is a competitor was behind this, hiring some guys for pennies on the dollar. They knew his training regime, where he would be etc.

Without going into fallacy of equivocation, I am disappointed by this response and your myopic phrase to end it.

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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-n...shwayo-Eat

Quote:Cannibal sex ring EXPOSED: 300 admit eating humans after girl raped, killed and devoured
MORE than 300 villagers have admitted cannibalism as the depth of a murderous gang of human flesh hungry killers has been revealed.

[Image: Cannibals-Human-Flesh-Eating-South-Afric...639786.jpg]

We have had now numerous cases of African cannibalism in Europe - even as recently as a couple weeks ago before a friend of a murdered and partly eaten girl went on a revenge shooting spree.

Of course it could have been a competitor, but that only reinforces the stupidity both of the athlete as well as the blokes he hired.

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As for typical Tuesday - I am speaking partly from experience. An friend of a friend from Africa is a doctor in a West African country (don't want to make it too obvious, because that buddy might start posting here one day and he knows the woman well enough). She recently reported having been kidnapped straight from the parking lot after a night shift. She was driven to the countryside and chained to the wall of a shack. There she found another woman who was however released the very same night because the family paid the ransom money. Unfortunately she did not have the same hope, because she recognized one of the kidnappers who worked as a security guard in her hospital. She only got out alive because the family of the first woman had called the cops and they were already planning a raid on that criminal group. Thus she was released after a few hours right before getting gang-raped and killed I guess.

And I know that people will go through life not having one of those cases, so the term typical Tuesday belittles the thing a bit, but it is certainly xxx-times more likely to happen than in bloody Europe. Or do you think that they kidnap doctors off parking lots daily in Europe or they eat models in cannibalistic rituals?
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
(03-08-2018 04:23 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/world-n...shwayo-Eat

Quote:Cannibal sex ring EXPOSED: 300 admit eating humans after girl raped, killed and devoured
MORE than 300 villagers have admitted cannibalism as the depth of a murderous gang of human flesh hungry killers has been revealed.

[Image: Cannibals-Human-Flesh-Eating-South-Afric...639786.jpg]

We have had now numerous cases of African cannibalism in Europe - even as recently as a couple weeks ago before a friend of a murdered and partly eaten girl went on a revenge shooting spree.

Of course it could have been a competitor, but that only reinforces the stupidity both of the athlete as well as the blokes he hired.

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As for typical Tuesday - I am speaking partly from experience. An friend of a friend from Africa is a doctor in a West African country (don't want to make it too obvious, because that buddy might start posting here one day and he knows the woman well enough). She recently reported having been kidnapped straight from the parking lot after a night shift. She was driven to the countryside and shacked to the wall of a shack. There she found another woman who was however released the very same night because the family paid the ransom money. Unfortunately she did not have the same hope, because she recognized one of the kidnappers who worked as a security guard in her hospital. She only got out alive because the family of first woman had called the cops and they were already planning a raid on that criminal group. Thus she was released after a few hours right before getting gang-raped and killed I guess.

And I know that people will go through life not having one of those cases, so the term typical Tuesday belittles the thing a bit, but it is certainly xxx-times more likely to happen than in bloody Europe. Or do you think that they kidnap doctors off parking lots daily in Europe or they eat models in cannibalistic rituals?

Indeed, I quoted this article earlier on in the thread. Crazy enough, my mother grew up in Estcourt (opposite the cemetery where they were digging up the bodies) and I heard about this, first hand.

The cannibals were killing people to eat them and also digging up bodies.

Why not kill the athlete first to ensure they could eat him in peace? Why focus on his legs and stop once they reach the bone?

Do you see the fallacy (Equivocation) in your argument of equating the cannibalistic healers with this incident?

Will it happen in South Africa?

Definitely.

Is this a case of that?

Unlikely?

A typical Tuesday most definitely includes murder, rape, armed robbery, kidnap and a lot of various things.

Cannibalism however is not as common as you may think.

The main stories that have come out regarding this was the Estcourt case, which was blown open by the Sangoma who went to the police station to rat out others who didn't want to participate (although he was the main perp).

Another story was a satanistic gang operating out of Somerset West with ties to the Numbers gang; completely different culture to the Zulus of KZN.

Finally, I am very sorry to hear about your friend's friend, I wish that on no one.

The worst thing about these events is that you become desensitized to it. A friends mother was kidnapped and raped for days when she was missing in the underground wine cellar of a serial rapist working on a wine farm. Another went missing and was found burned in the boot of a car (white 60yo perp). A friend of mine was stabbed on his way to his car in Long St. after finishing a DJ set because he wouldn't hand over his keys.

After a lot of these bizarre situations, you learn to distinguish the motives usually.

If you were to monitor the stress levels of the South African citizen, they would be higher (baseline) than most, due to the security. Nonetheless, if you were to put a SA person in Germany, and compared them to the local, their stress levels would be way lower and vice versa (higher for Germans here).

Anyways I digress; trying to be as rational as possible about these discussions because they are not your daily 'problems' and bring out the emotional side in people.

Thanks for explaining further Zelcorpion.
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Look - I get it. The probability that they were cannibals out to eat athlete's foot was low in this case. I have sometimes a dry sense of humor that is lost in writing. The perps could have made it look like a robbery beating up the man, smashing his kneecaps and cutting his achilles heels. Sawing through the leg is a strange thing. Also depending on the saw, there is a good reason why the bone stopped it. Those are not so easy to saw through as the meat.

Still - this kind of thing would not have happened to him if he was training somewhere else. His career is over anyway. The doctors may only save his legs for normal walking.

And I have other stories of similar nature from Africa since I belong to a strange spiritual path that has many followers in Africa, so I meet them. Plus I bang African girls in Europe from time to time. One I banged from a high-IQ middle class Nigerian family confessed that she had been raped (it made some sense since her behavior in bed was both aroused and scared) - most of her cousins and sister are already in Europe due to things like that.
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
(03-08-2018 05:00 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Sawing through the leg is a strange thing. Also depending on the saw, there is a good reason why the bone stopped it. Those are not so easy to saw through as the meat.

Articles I read said that they used a rusty and blunt chainsaw.
That's why they couldn't cut through the bone.

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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
Whatever happened to white people? The Romans used to crucify people, the vikings werent to be fucked with and the Americans dropped atomic bombs. Seems like after world war 2 Europeans went soft. Everybody else still acts like their ancestors did.

We wouldnt be having this conversation about South Africa a hundred years ago.
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(03-08-2018 07:56 AM)Piankhi Wrote:  Whatever happened to white people? The Romans used to crucify people, the vikings werent to be fucked with and the Americans dropped atomic bombs. Seems like after world war 2 Europeans went soft. Everybody else still acts like their ancestors did.

We wouldnt be having this conversation about South Africa a hundred years ago.

Romans and European barbarism is a long time ago. Europe and the West got civilized certainly some centuries ago with rule of law. But it retained a strong foundation myth. That got deliberately destroyed after WWII by the cultural marxists. The countries got taken over by a hostile elite and the people got sufficiently indoctrinated to blast white guilt 24/7 and be willing to have the countries they built be destroyed.

It's not even about some outlier states like South Africa or Rhodesia. Even the White created states are going along the Mugabe-civic-nationalism bullshit of accepting all religions and races into the midst while self-flagellating.

But the elite correctly understands that SJWs and cultural marxists can be gone in 2 years:

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So long as Europe. US & Canada would remain uniform and white, then the progressive shitheads could be gone quickly. That is why they push for diversity and civic nationalism inviting specifically "more Red Pill" non Whites to the mix. When Whites are a minority in their countries, then a reversal of dogmas cannot happen anymore.

The globalist elite abused the weaknesses of Whites of a good heart, of Christian compassion and blasted them with self-guilt.

No other culture has that - not the Chinese, not the Japanese, certainly no African country, and absolutely not any Muslim country. Some of those tribes did things 1000 times worse - check out black slavery under Islam or the conquest of India by Muslims.

[Image: ColorfulMuslimsParis.jpg]

There is no coming back to a real France when the majority won't be able to replicate 20% of the former culture in terms of science, technology, wisdom, ethics, safety and industriousness.





The reality and the bloody truth is that most Zimbabweans and most South African blacks would have a far better lifestyle if Whites had remained in power. Of course some improvements to the old system would have to be made, but it was the lack of support and even stark ostracism from all the Western globalist governments which led to the collapse of Rhodesia and this will also lead to the collapse of South Africa.
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
Hilarious interview with South African politicians:





Especially the communist Red Guard bitch in the end who blabbers on about "owning the means of production" is funny.

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2018/02...-darkness/

It reminds me of what happened in Zaire:

[Image: inga-1.jpg?w=700]
It's the story of the true Wakanda which actually seemed to have used some of the scenery. The Congo was virtually untouched by any Western man until the 1870s.

Quote:As was the case with slavery, the atrocities of the Leopold era were largely inflicted by Africans on other Africans, but the international outcry was so great that the Belgian government took over the Congo in 1908. Thus officially began the era of Belgian colonialism, which was relatively peaceful and uneventful and lasted until 1960. During a mere 42 years, the Belgians introduced every aspect of the modern world from cities with sewers and running water to electricity and factories. They built roads, railroads, airports, schools, hospitals, etc. The leap forward in terms of science, technology, and living standards introduced by the Belgians was staggering.

The early 20th century under Belgian colonialism was a Golden Age for the Congo and many elderly Congolese still today look back at it in awe in light of the nightmare that followed. While Europe and Asia were torn apart by World War I and World War II, Central Africa was relatively prosperous and peaceful. It was an era of economic growth, rising living standards and advances in education. Slavery was extinguished. Cannibalism was outlawed and suppressed. Christianity was introduced. Trade was booming. Public health initiatives rolled back diseases like malaria. This was the rule in Africa under “colonialism” from 1900 to 1960.

[Image: leopoldville-1960-e1519809776804.jpeg?resize=700%2C482]

Quote:“The first government of Congo inherited from Belgium a well developed infrastructure: more than fourteen thousand kilometers (nearly 8,700 miles) of rails and more than 140 kilometers (about eighty-seven miles) of highways and streets had been built; there were more than forty airports or airfields and more than a hundred hydroelectric and power plants and there was a modern industrial sector (Congo was world leader in industrial diamonds and the world’s fourth largest copper producer). In addition, a start had been made with general health care (three hundred hospitals for natives, plus medical centers and birth clinics) and the country enjoyed an extremely high degree of literacy (1.7 million primary school pupils in 1959) – achievements that were truly striking in comparison with other African countries.”

The run-of-the-mill Congolese, on the other hand, was enjoying it immensely. He believed that a golden age was on its way, that Congo would become prosperous from one day to the next. That, after all, was the promise made him in the dozens of pamphlets circulating around the country. Almost all the parties were making promises that could never be kept, promises that were sometimes grotesque, sometimes downright dangerous.”

Quote:When independence arrives,” an Abako broadsheet read, “the whites will have to leave the country.” That was definitely not one of the conclusions of the round-table conference “The goods left behind will become the property of the black population. That is to say: the houses, the shops, the trucks, the merchandise, the factories, and fields will be given back to the Bakongo.

In a way that is what likely many black South Africans think - just kill whitey, take their land, take their cars, their factories and maybe even take their women:

Quote:“Some of them even assumed that, from then on, “the black will have white boys” and that “everyone will be allowed to pick out a white woman for themselves, because they will be left behind and redistributed, just like the cars and other things.” A few hucksters took advantage of that naivete and began selling white people’s homes for the trifling sum of forty dollars … Gullible souls, not realizing they had been swindled, knocked on the doors of white villas to ask whether they could come in and take a look at their new property. Some of them even asked to inspect the woman of the house, because they had just paid twenty dollars for her as well.”

And afterwards eternal non-White Wakandan utopia will reign in glorious prosperity.

Quote:Over the last 58 years, Léopoldville (now “Kinshasa”) has undergone the most extreme form of climate chang anywhere on the planet. This city which used to be known as “Kin La Belle” (Kinshasa the Beautiful) has been transformed into “Kin La Poubelle” (Kinshasa the Dump).

10 million Congolese are now jammed into a city that was built by the Belgians to accommodate less than 200,000 people. The Western principles of urban planning have been thrown out the window. The whole city has become a mountain of garbage where open sewers run through the streets.





Funny that I almost had business in Zaire/Congo since I know some of the ruling family there. But they are too ethical for their own good and all moved to Europe - one being a doctor. Even they could not guarantee any safety for the project. We would have needed some kind of major army and CIA or Chinese backing to get the shit done safely.

South Africa will likely look like Kinshasa the Dump soon after the Whites have left.
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
Never forget that ending Apartheid in South Africa was never remotely on the table. The only question was "Which group would do more good/less damage with their version of Apartheid, the Africans, or the Afrikaaners?". And "Which one are we more biased against?". Also don't forget that the new regime may also have grievances against smaller tribal groups that the Afrikaaners didn't.
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African politicians dont think like you do. When shit hits the fan Malema and company wont starve to death. People like Mugabe know the consequences of their actions but they dont have to fave them. They will have their billions safely stashed away in off shore accounts.

This reminds me of a quote from stormfront - 'they want the white mans world, but they dont want the white man it'.
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(03-08-2018 12:00 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  


Lol at 1:00 where the minister of environmental affaires thanks the "Chef de l'état" (most probably president Kabila) for releasing funds to dispose all that rubbish.

Does she also need a presidential decree before going to toilet?

Also, it's said all that rubbish is in Gombe district, which is in the very center of Kinshasa Confused
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BP'd ?

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South Africa is learning from the best countries of freedom like Germany or Pakistan.

Especially the aspect of "hate-speech" is interesting. See no White murders, have no white murders. See no civil war, have no civil war.

   
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I'd like to see a Tweet from Trump soon on this.
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(03-09-2018 05:04 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'd like to see a Tweet from Trump soon on this.

I could see Trump making some sort of comment.
Yet with no large oil reserves in Southern Africa, I don't expect 99% of Washington D.C. to give a damn.
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(03-09-2018 05:50 PM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  
(03-09-2018 05:04 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  I'd like to see a Tweet from Trump soon on this.

I could see Trump making some sort of comment.
Yet with no large oil reserves in Southern Africa, I don't expect 99% of Washington D.C. to give a damn.



Yes, no oil...
...but South Africa is one of the largest gold and diamond producers in the entire world.



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Trump can make the most of the SA crisis by offering asylums to white refugees from there. If the left doesn't want to accept these refugees they can be branded racists

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Isn't it interesting how Burma can't treat the Rohinga different, but whites can be persecuted without a word from the UN?
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(03-10-2018 11:45 AM)nomadbrah Wrote:  Isn't it interesting how Burma can't treat the Rohinga different, but whites can be persecuted without a word from the UN?

The difference between SA and Burma is one has a special victim group and the other is literally Hitler incarnate.
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
From the marxist viewpoint they deserve slaughter for Apartheid. Apartheid was probably necessary, Africans aren't like American blacks or European blacks integrated over generations. (A lot of my friends are apolitical or center-right black men, I think their shit women red pill them.)
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(03-10-2018 02:59 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  From the marxist viewpoint they deserve slaughter for Apartheid. Apartheid was probably necessary, Africans aren't like American blacks or European blacks integrated over generations. (A lot of my friends are apolitical or center-right black men, I think their shit women red pill them.)

I don't know, most non-invader African immigrants in Europe, don't give a damn about the cause. I'd say generally, African immigrants in smaller numbers are well behaved and pleasant.

This is the problem generally with mass migration. Your opinion on a group is almost always negatively affected. This is also true with whites in Asia for example.
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(03-10-2018 05:19 PM)nomadbrah Wrote:  
(03-10-2018 02:59 PM)godfather dust Wrote:  From the marxist viewpoint they deserve slaughter for Apartheid. Apartheid was probably necessary, Africans aren't like American blacks or European blacks integrated over generations. (A lot of my friends are apolitical or center-right black men, I think their shit women red pill them.)

I don't know, most non-invader African immigrants in Europe, don't give a damn about the cause. I'd say generally, African immigrants in smaller numbers are well behaved and pleasant.

This is the problem generally with mass migration. Your opinion on a group is almost always negatively affected. This is also true with whites in Asia for example.

I agree actually, I suppose it was a mistake making the second half of that post in politics... I don't base my social life on politics (besides excluding SJWs, communists, white haters) but my social circle is irrelevant to the big picture.
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
(03-08-2018 12:00 PM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  Hilarious interview with South African politicians:





Especially the communist Red Guard bitch in the end who blabbers on about "owning the means of production" is funny.

http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2018/02...-darkness/

It reminds me of what happened in Zaire:

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It's the story of the true Wakanda which actually seemed to have used some of the scenery. The Congo was virtually untouched by any Western man until the 1870s.

Quote:As was the case with slavery, the atrocities of the Leopold era were largely inflicted by Africans on other Africans, but the international outcry was so great that the Belgian government took over the Congo in 1908. Thus officially began the era of Belgian colonialism, which was relatively peaceful and uneventful and lasted until 1960. During a mere 42 years, the Belgians introduced every aspect of the modern world from cities with sewers and running water to electricity and factories. They built roads, railroads, airports, schools, hospitals, etc. The leap forward in terms of science, technology, and living standards introduced by the Belgians was staggering.

The early 20th century under Belgian colonialism was a Golden Age for the Congo and many elderly Congolese still today look back at it in awe in light of the nightmare that followed. While Europe and Asia were torn apart by World War I and World War II, Central Africa was relatively prosperous and peaceful. It was an era of economic growth, rising living standards and advances in education. Slavery was extinguished. Cannibalism was outlawed and suppressed. Christianity was introduced. Trade was booming. Public health initiatives rolled back diseases like malaria. This was the rule in Africa under “colonialism” from 1900 to 1960.

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Quote:“The first government of Congo inherited from Belgium a well developed infrastructure: more than fourteen thousand kilometers (nearly 8,700 miles) of rails and more than 140 kilometers (about eighty-seven miles) of highways and streets had been built; there were more than forty airports or airfields and more than a hundred hydroelectric and power plants and there was a modern industrial sector (Congo was world leader in industrial diamonds and the world’s fourth largest copper producer). In addition, a start had been made with general health care (three hundred hospitals for natives, plus medical centers and birth clinics) and the country enjoyed an extremely high degree of literacy (1.7 million primary school pupils in 1959) – achievements that were truly striking in comparison with other African countries.”

The run-of-the-mill Congolese, on the other hand, was enjoying it immensely. He believed that a golden age was on its way, that Congo would become prosperous from one day to the next. That, after all, was the promise made him in the dozens of pamphlets circulating around the country. Almost all the parties were making promises that could never be kept, promises that were sometimes grotesque, sometimes downright dangerous.”

Quote:When independence arrives,” an Abako broadsheet read, “the whites will have to leave the country.” That was definitely not one of the conclusions of the round-table conference “The goods left behind will become the property of the black population. That is to say: the houses, the shops, the trucks, the merchandise, the factories, and fields will be given back to the Bakongo.

In a way that is what likely many black South Africans think - just kill whitey, take their land, take their cars, their factories and maybe even take their women:

Quote:“Some of them even assumed that, from then on, “the black will have white boys” and that “everyone will be allowed to pick out a white woman for themselves, because they will be left behind and redistributed, just like the cars and other things.” A few hucksters took advantage of that naivete and began selling white people’s homes for the trifling sum of forty dollars … Gullible souls, not realizing they had been swindled, knocked on the doors of white villas to ask whether they could come in and take a look at their new property. Some of them even asked to inspect the woman of the house, because they had just paid twenty dollars for her as well.”

And afterwards eternal non-White Wakandan utopia will reign in glorious prosperity.

Quote:Over the last 58 years, Léopoldville (now “Kinshasa”) has undergone the most extreme form of climate chang anywhere on the planet. This city which used to be known as “Kin La Belle” (Kinshasa the Beautiful) has been transformed into “Kin La Poubelle” (Kinshasa the Dump).

10 million Congolese are now jammed into a city that was built by the Belgians to accommodate less than 200,000 people. The Western principles of urban planning have been thrown out the window. The whole city has become a mountain of garbage where open sewers run through the streets.





Funny that I almost had business in Zaire/Congo since I know some of the ruling family there. But they are too ethical for their own good and all moved to Europe - one being a doctor. Even they could not guarantee any safety for the project. We would have needed some kind of major army and CIA or Chinese backing to get the shit done safely.

South Africa will likely look like Kinshasa the Dump soon after the Whites have left.

Belgian rule of Congo was highly disruptive and brutal. Many millions were brutalized during that time frame. Belgian has the most aggressive colonial style where watching and killing the locals was fair game to them. They would routinely buthcer hands as a way of punishment and ran "work camps" all while doing nothing to keep tribal issues contained which then lead to one of the bloodiest conflicts since WWII. No parallels between the French, Dutch, Portuguese, and British systems on the continent.
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
How barbaric the Belgians were is a side issue to the larger matter of the native's capacity for maintaining a civilisation.

It hardly matters if whites brutally oppressed the natives and built an advanced civilisation before fucking off, or if aliens from Mars did precisely the same thing.

"Oppressing natives bad". We get it. That doesn't ease concerns over where western white nations are headed when they can't leverage a majority to democratically enforce the idea that rubbish goes in a bin and shit goes in a toilet.
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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
(03-11-2018 06:48 AM)kosko Wrote:  Belgian rule of Congo was highly disruptive and brutal. Many millions were brutalized during that time frame. Belgian has the most aggressive colonial style where watching and killing the locals was fair game to them. They would routinely buthcer hands as a way of punishment and ran "work camps" all while doing nothing to keep tribal issues contained which then lead to one of the bloodiest conflicts since WWII. No parallels between the French, Dutch, Portuguese, and British systems on the continent.

Actually it was more relevant what Leopold was doing because it was his personal fiefdom. Most of the killing was done by various tribes against each other. If you look at the history of many African countries, then you find massive killing, slaughter and mayhem without any white men entering the place.

There were countries in Africa where the "colonizers" freed millions of slaves enslaved by other African tribes. In one instance they freed 2.5 mio. slave (was either Congo or Northern Muslim Nigeria). The Italians freed 70.000 personal slaves of the Ethopian king alone - for their short 5 year rule there.

When you study African history, then you realize that the calls to genocidal "race war" is actually something that was happening all the time in Africa, just that it was tribal war - constant tribal war. Even countries like Somalia which are extremely uniform are beset by constant warfare, because the 99% Somali tribes are fighting against each other for dominance.

I am sure that some psychopathic colonizing forces were brutal, but honestly after checking up on Africa's history I think that it was 95% better than what they would have been doing to each other anyway. Liberia, Ethopia, Haiti were 100% black ruled for centuries. Ethopia had been unconquered until 5 years and the same kind of slaughter went on there. The Italian stint actually improved the lot of the people freeing hundreds of thousands of slaves.

The myth of colonization is always told as some kind of blood-thirsty brutal supremacists doing unspeakable acts of terror against an incredibly peaceful one-with-nature African population.

And I am not excusing any evils done by Whites - most colonies were just costing money. The cheaper thing would have to be doing what the Chinese are doing - set up various corporations, protect them with their troops, give the corrupt rulers some billions so that they can splurge it all on Rolls Royces and skyscrapers, while the rest of their population lives in squalor and filth.





Nigerian Eco Atlantic will be a city-state where the normal citizens likely won't even have access to. The wealthy will have a first-world town in a third world nation. Even the Arabs are managing their wealth better for fuck's sake. And such a city would even have greater reliance on White and Asian engineering and maintenance. At least they are going to create a ton of highly paid jobs for Chinese, American and European workers and companies.

Also the numbers stated about King Leopold's atrocities don't add up. The Belgians back then had 1000 soldiers in Congo and the country is huge - most of it thick jungle.

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There are books out there that claim that the Belgians killed 10 MILLION AFRICANS!!!!

They are supposed to have done that in little more than a decade. This is frankly hilarious on such massive proportions that I cannot believe that anyone even believes in that fairytale. They cannot even claim death by European diseases like they do with North American Indians, because the Europeans died of various tropical diseases much faster than the Africans. The reports back then even used the term 6 mio. victims of abuse. The six million number must be loved dearly by the globalists.

And don't get me wrong - Leopold and his bunch were accused and publicly decried for their actions in Europe. It was no laughing matter and every guilty man should have been tried for his actions, but the entire numbers don't add up unless you take into account plenty of other tribes willing to murder and maim in their own interests.

And even then I would doubt the raw numbers of victims.
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