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RE: Is South Africa on the path to becoming the next Zimbabwe?
(03-12-2018 07:51 AM)Piankhi Wrote:  @Hander. I am an African. South Africans dont want the land. They want what is on the land. If Malema and company were given fertile land with no farms on it they wouldnt know what to do with it. So its not the same as whites who stole unused land and did something productive with it.

While it may have been mentioned in this thread already.
Let's not forget, that neither the Xhosa nor the Zulu's are truly native to South Africa as they migrated just like any other.
I would also not be surprised if one went back in history far enough to then find that the Bushmen are also not entirely native to South Africa.

Quote:The Xhosa are part of the South African Nguni migration which slowly moved south from the region around the Great Lakes, displacing the original Khoisan hunter gatherers of Southern Africa.

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(03-12-2018 07:51 AM)Piankhi Wrote:  @Hander. I am an African. South Africans dont want the land. They want what is on the land. If Malema and company were given fertile land with no farms on it they wouldnt know what to do with it. So its not the same as whites who stole unused land and did something productive with it.

It's even worse than that. They have no interest in doing farming while some may probably harbor illusions that they can do it. Similar to Zimbabwe the only thing they are interested in is money, selling it or at best renting it out, but profit margin will be terrible.

Plus the resale value of land in a country with such a legal precedence will drop to such lows, that it will be worth pennies on the dollar. Who will guarantee that the next party will roll back the ownership and do something else?

I would also state that I am neither on team White nor on team Black by default. Sure - I would fight for the retaining of White cultures, but I would also fight for the retaining of some black cultures if they manage to create one that is worth fighting for. Looking at history I think that I would have supported Abyssinia, but that ship sailed centuries ago.

You have to get it out of your head that those ruling groups who want to destroy Western countries via immigration love African people sooo much. Nah - they have different plans as a highly esteemed Austrian Jewish politician has even put out in books a long time ago:

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He was part of the group which I refer to as the globalists. The same group is not interested in Africa bettering itself, in aiding Africans to reach intensive agriculture systems and industrialization. They are mainly concerned with wiping out the rebellious Whites, so that they can rule them all. And God forbid - they are certainly against any positive eugenics plan for Africa to raise IQ en force, so that Africans could one day become a danger to them. Instead they prefer to attack scientists who published The Bell Curve, tell dumb stories, corrupt the smarter blacks and laugh while the mayhem continues.

In truth both Blacks and Whites in the world have one common enemy - the international globalists who wish to create their prison planet and destroy all cultures in a joint Brave New World.
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(03-12-2018 02:22 AM)Piankhi Wrote:  ^Did you watch the tv series Shaka the Zulu? Was it popular all around the world?
I don’t know if it was popular, but I do know that it was broadcast throughout the US. I saw it whenever it was broadcast, and then I watched it again a few years ago to see how well it aged. We were all shocked at the amount of National Geographic titties we saw while watching it. I guess the network and the censors looked at it and said “no one’s jerkin it to these titties so we can show them.”

Henry Cele was an interesting casting choice from an American perspective. He was probably the darkest person any of us ever saw up to that point. But aside from that, Henry Cele had the most symmetrical shape of just about any person I’ve ever seen in real life or on television. I read that he eventually retired from celebrity life and died about 10 years ago. He wasn’t that old.
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^I thought it was a good show. We need more African movies like it.
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Point of Information: Kalegi wasn't Jewish.

His father was an Austrian noble, and his mother, well, she was Japanese.

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(03-12-2018 07:12 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  Point of Information: Kalegi wasn't Jewish.

His father was an Austrian noble, and his mother, well, she was Japanese.

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(03-12-2018 07:12 PM)Transsimian Wrote:  Point of Information: Kalegi wasn't Jewish.

His father was an Austrian noble, and his mother, well, she was Japanese.

Yup - checked it out now. There are a ton of things named after him, but they don't teach much about him at school.

He is not Jewish, just your normal globalist. Most of them are not Jewish - the so-called JQ is overblown in most instances. The European aristocracy as well as international non-Jewish money elite was far more numerous and willing to sell out their people.

They simply justified it because to them a peasant in Germany was as lowly and unimportant as a peasant in Nigeria.
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Slightly tangent. The Chinese colonisation of Africa in my opinion will be economical not military. This isnt the 19th century and Africans dont use spears anymore. If the Chinese want to take over Africa it wont be easy and they will be embroiled in a never ending conflict or wipe us out completey.
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(03-13-2018 03:28 AM)Piankhi Wrote:  Slightly tangent. The Chinese colonisation of Africa in my opinion will be economical not military. This isnt the 19th century and Africans dont use spears anymore. If the Chinese want to take over Africa it wont be easy and they will be embroiled in a never ending conflict or wipe us out completey.

No one needs to do any genocide in Africa to take it over. There are multiple scenarios possible. Currently they are limiting their activities to economics with only some military bases as support for those investments.

Taking over countries in Africa could be as easy as fostering and financing internal conflict, then coming in as the saviors and establishing rule and order for the first time in years of constant bloodshed. When this happens, then the resistance against the Chinese leadership would be quite limited. Plus - this might happen in 20-30 years when the advanced military tech is more overwhelming. The ability to fight 100.000 terminator drones by bushmen guerilla groups will be very limited.

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Then some 50.000 Chinese could very well dominate 10 mio.

But we shall see how the globalists try to pull it off. Currently we can only read about the plans, some magazines and the CFR mentioning it, but no concrete actions. Ultimately they would have to relocate some 100 mio. Chinese or more to Africa. My guess is that they are waiting until the technology gap is so massive that semi-automatic drones can wipe out any rebels quickly.

Life for 98% of Africans will likely be better, so the rebellions will be mostly created by the local Rolls-Royce bunch who would make millions instead of billions.

I could of course wish for a better development - one where Africans remain the masters of Africa and rise up on their own, but I don't think that the globalists are interested in that going forward.
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^If the take over benefits us then so be it. I hope they bring some extra women with them. So will there be a Chinese president in Congo or rule by proxy? Will it still be Nigeria or will they call it New Manchuria?
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(03-12-2018 07:51 AM)Piankhi Wrote:  @Hander. I am an African. South Africans dont want the land. They want what is on the land. If Malema and company were given fertile land with no farms on it they wouldnt know what to do with it. So its not the same as whites who stole unused land and did something productive with it.

Exactly. There is plenty of unused land in South Africa, and Africa in general, to farm and be productive. The fact that so much unused land exists yet the Blacks feel the need to "take back" from the Whites shows how primitive, barbaric, and shortsighted they are.

If Africans were actually intelligent they'd have no need to take from the minority, they'd just build their own farms and dwarf the economic output of the Whites. It's not that hard to figure out, especially when they can just copy what the Whites have done. But they are stupid, and stupid people only know violence.

Likewise it will be the same with the Chinese takeover of Africa. The Chinese have zero respect for the stupid, primitive Africans:





The Chinese will simply move in and take what they find valuable from Africa. If the Africans try to take what the Chinese build, the Chicoms will murder the Africans en masse and protect their investments.

Slowly, but surely, the Chinese will develop Africa for their own ends until it is completely taken over. They won't even attempt to rule the Africans: they don't give a shit about any of them nor do they respect them. They'll let them wander in the wilderness and to the extent they can be used as cheap labor will survive in that manner.

Old African countries and borders will mean nothing to the Chinese. Just as the White settlers of America did not give a fuck about Native American borders, neither shall the Chinese care about African tribes and countries. The Chinese will ultimately create their own borders and territorial claims as they see fit, with Chinese heads controlling individual states over resources, farms, and other corporations.

The major advantage the Chinese have over the Whites is that Chinese leaders are not interested in betraying their own people like Whites are. That is why the future of White lands is massive civil war, but since the Chinese are united they will conquer shitholes like Africa without a second thought.

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The Chinese are smarter than that. There's no need for them to go colonial on the natives when it's cheaper and more PR friendly to simply pay the local warlords to do it for them.

The regional high IQ psychopaths running the militaries and militias will do the job for pennies on the dollar with zero humanitarian hangups, no FOBs, no troop rotations, no Chinese going home in body bags and no snarky, corrupt Chinese diva generals jockeying over who gets to stay at home or how much gold and diamonds they can stash in their back pockets.

Meanwhile the UN will have its hands tied because regardless of the fact that Chinese drilling platforms seem to pop up wherever Commander Mogumbo of the Sacred Jesus Massacre Militia ethnically cleanses the land, there will be no hard and fast way to hold a veto member of the security council to account.
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I wouldn't honestly expect a lot of Chinese casualties if and when they colonize Africa. Sure, they'll have their local useful idiots to help, but they're not pussies like us in the west. They'll crush dissidents without any regrets and with great efficiency. Talk to an average Chinese regarding their opinion of Africans if you want to get woke.
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Hopefully when and if China colonises Africa I will have died in my bed peacefully of old age.
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(03-12-2018 11:39 AM)Piankhi Wrote:  ^I thought it was a good show. We need more African movies like it.


I am about 1/2 through it (it's on Netflix). I wasn't able to watch the whole thing as a kid when it first came out.
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(03-13-2018 09:07 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The Chinese are smarter than that. There's no need for them to go colonial on the natives when it's cheaper and more PR friendly to simply pay the local warlords to do it for them.


The Chinese have another method of domination, which has been done historically in countries like Thailand:

https://qz.com/857156/uganda-is-worried-...eir-women/

In Thailand, the socially dominant / ruling class are Chinese / Thai hybrids (known as 'Chi-Thais).
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(03-13-2018 10:13 AM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  
(03-13-2018 09:07 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The Chinese are smarter than that. There's no need for them to go colonial on the natives when it's cheaper and more PR friendly to simply pay the local warlords to do it for them.


The Chinese have another method of domination, which has been done historically in countries like Thailand:

https://qz.com/857156/uganda-is-worried-...eir-women/

In Thailand, the socially dominant / ruling class are Chinese / Thai hybrids (known as 'Chi-Thais).





Don't count on the Chinese to bring their women. They have a huge gender-overhang. If they come in bigger numbers, then it will be quite easy to motivate tens of millions of men without any access to a Chinese woman to come and settle in Africa with a pretty black girl.

The resulting mixed Chinese-African people will probably be a large part of the future middle class.

As for the Whites - the ones that don't make it to the full Chinese control and greater order then will have a hard time surviving. South Africa will certainly deteriorate ever more, though at a slower rate than Zimbabwe.

But what can you expect? The globalists convinced huge portions of White Western nations to hate themselves, to see everything through a marxist-colonialist lense, to ignore all the good (modern civilization, modern science, billions of lives saved through modern Western medicine and tech, abolition of slavery done by Whites etc.). The globalists misused the greater White and Christian empathy against them until they gladly embark on suicidal policies. Feminism is but one of the tools. Women always self-destroy and betray their own people (true of all races - no exceptions).
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The Chinese have been in Africa for a while now. The entire continent is rich in natural resources and cheap, with absolutely no issues with things such as laws, health and safety and government red tape.

And Africa is no threat to China or its future goals so it is happy to give away money and man power for its needs there.
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(03-12-2018 04:04 AM)CynicalContrarian Wrote:  

I am suspicious of both this type of tweet and Simon Roche's Suidlanders for the simple reason, why should the whites evacuate? Why not stay and fight for what is rightfully theirs.

Who would question any individual family or person who wants to leave, right? To lend them support or host makes sense for compassionate freedom loving people. But "efforts" to encourage mass evacuation ultimately seem to be slyly in support of the spread of Communism.

Qui bono?

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(03-13-2018 11:10 AM)Zelcorpion Wrote:  
(03-13-2018 10:13 AM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  The Chinese have another method of domination, which has been done historically in countries like Thailand:

https://qz.com/857156/uganda-is-worried-...eir-women/

In Thailand, the socially dominant / ruling class are Chinese / Thai hybrids (known as 'Chi-Thais).

Don't count on the Chinese to bring their women. They have a huge gender-overhang. If they come in bigger numbers, then it will be quite easy to motivate tens of millions of men without any access to a Chinese woman to come and settle in Africa with a pretty black girl.

The resulting mixed Chinese-African people will probably be a large part of the future middle class.

How long until I get to start banging thicc black riceballs in Africa? I want numbers.

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(03-13-2018 06:57 PM)Off The Reservation Wrote:  I am suspicious of both this type of tweet and Simon Roche's Suidlanders for the simple reason, why should the whites evacuate? Why not stay and fight for what is rightfully theirs.

Who would question any individual family or person who wants to leave, right? To lend them support or host makes sense for compassionate freedom loving people. But "efforts" to encourage mass evacuation ultimately seem to be slyly in support of the spread of Communism.

Qui bono?

http://historyreviewed.com/index.php/201...ng-whites/


To paraphrase Jordan Peterson, the situation is multi-varied.
Yes for those that intend to remain, they'll have to fight ruthlessly to ensure their own personal sovereignty.
Yet for those that are unable or unwilling to fight, why not allow them a viable means to get the hell out of dodge?
It is also easier to fight when you don't have to worry about your parents or daughters being a liability / target.
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(03-13-2018 10:13 AM)Hell_Is_Like_Newark Wrote:  
(03-13-2018 09:07 AM)Leonard D Neubache Wrote:  The Chinese are smarter than that. There's no need for them to go colonial on the natives when it's cheaper and more PR friendly to simply pay the local warlords to do it for them.


The Chinese have another method of domination, which has been done historically in countries like Thailand:

https://qz.com/857156/uganda-is-worried-...eir-women/

In Thailand, the socially dominant / ruling class are Chinese / Thai hybrids (known as 'Chi-Thais).

If you want a solid, gold plated example of what fucked the West then ironically in this far off, primitive place you can find it.

Black women with no money, no prospects and no laws demanding men bow to them as they pass in the street are jumping at the opportunity to shackle their wagon to shorter, weaker, foreign Asian men with invariably smaller dicks than the locals, and there will be no second guessing who sired the kids in such unions in regards to being cucked by native studs. Nor will there be social or economic mercy for cheating whores, who will be out on the street with their bastard children, penniless and destitute.

This is the antithesis of the West and why we are falling.

Women WILL shackle themselves to betas, put out, have kids young and stay faithful only when society doesn't provide them with a social and economic safety net for doing the exact opposite.
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Is that you Leo...?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-15/du...rs/9550050

Quote:Peter Dutton wants Australia to help white South African farmers who he says are facing violence, land seizures

White farmers facing violence in South Africa "deserve special attention" from Australia, Home Affairs Minister Peter Dutton has said.

Mr Dutton has ordered his department to investigate how to bring the farmers, who he says are facing "horrific circumstances" of land seizures and violence, to Australia.

He said he had watched television footage and read articles that convinced him the farmers needed help.

He said he had "hope" some of the farmers could be settled in Australia, declaring: "We have the potential to help some of these people that are being persecuted."

Violence on South African farms is a racially charged political issue.

Afriforum, a rights group that mainly represents the views of the white Afrikaner minority, says white farmers are murdered at four times the rate of other citizens, but these figures cannot be independently verified and have been challenged.

Mr Dutton said he wanted to explore whether the farmers could access visas or humanitarian programs.

"People do need help and they need help from a civilised country like ours," Mr Dutton told News Corp.

"There are existing visa categories where we can accommodate people and we're just looking at the moment as to what might be feasible and hopefully we'll make an announcement in due course."

But the South African Government has dismissed fears expressed by Mr Dutton for the safety of the farmers, saying its citizens are not in danger.

Most South Africans would prefer to stay: Afriforum
Afriforum has expressed gratitude to Mr Dutton for acknowledging the attacks on white farmers.

But deputy chief executive Ernst Roets said most South Africans would prefer to stay on home soil.

"We would like to solve the problem in South Africa. So we don't necessarily think the solution is for everyone to leave the country," he said.

Mr Roets said the Australian Government should engage with South African officials.

Mr Dutton said the farmers could make a contribution to Australian life.

"The people we're talking about want to work hard, they want to contribute to a country like Australia," he said.

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Peter Dutton's response just further confirms my previous guess that the West to be on the side of the Afrikaners, with the Russians and the Chinese on the ANC side.

If Russia really sides with the ANC and the West with the Afrikaners, this will throw the entire white nationalist, and the redpill movement in the West in general, into massive turmoil. But moves like that to confuse white nationalists in the West is probably very well a globalist tactic.
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White Saffers are a well assimilated and politically significant community in West Australia. They are pretty much perfect immigrants for a centre-right party like Dutton's Liberals

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