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OP means he only drank water. I'm a big fan of IF and a high fat, protein and low-carb diet, personally. I doubt i'll do a full-on 10 day fast, but a day 1 fast sounds useful.

I have one friend who gorges one day a week and fasts one day a week and he's in very good shape. His theory is that the human body is built to deal with and thrive off of extremes in natural settings. I'm a little skeptical but it does sound plausible at some level.

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(04-08-2018 11:40 PM)Not a Second Hander Wrote:  I shall wait until there's more research on this.

That is just code for "I am not bothering to do this." The research is already out there. You just need to search it out. Just to cite one of many examples, the fasting clinic where I stayed has done multiple scientific studies on fasting, including a 12-year study on fasting and hypertension (i.e., lowering high blood pressure).

Quote:The doctors of chiropractic and medicine affiliated with TrueNorth Health Education Center have been conducting ongoing scientific research involving the use of fasting and a health promoting diet and lifestyle program in the treatment of numerous clinical conditions including High Blood Pressure and Diabetes. In June of 2001, our 12-year study, completed in conjunction with our colleagues at Cornell University, was published in the scientific, peer-reviewed and indexed, Journal of Manipulative and Physiological Therapeutics. This paper, entitled Medically Supervised Water-only Fasting in the Treatment of Hypertension, detailed our outstanding results in the treatment of 174 consecutive program participants presenting with high blood pressure. Read the study about Fasting as a Treatment of Hypertension.

Our study demonstrated the remarkable effectiveness of water-only fasting in the treatment of the leading contributing cause of morbidity and mortality in industrialized countries. A second study evaluating the effectiveness of fasting in the treatment of borderline high blood pressure was accepted for publication and appeared in the October 2002 issue of the Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine. Read the study about Fasting as a Treatment of Borderline Hypertension.

http://www.healthpromoting.com/water-fas...g-research


Quote:ABSTRACT Background: Hypertension-related diseases are the leading cause of morbidity and mortality in industrially developed societies. Although antihypertensive drugs are extensively used, dietary and lifestyle modifications also are effective in the treatment of patients with hypertension. One such lifestyle intervention is the use of medically supervised, water-only fasting as a safe and effective means of normalizing blood pressure and initiating health-promoting behavioral changes.

Methods: One hundred seventy-four consecutive hypertensive patients with blood pressure in excess of 140 mm Hg systolic, 90 mm Hg diastolic (140/90 mm Hg), or both were treated in an inpatient setting under medical supervision. The treatment program consisted of a short prefasting period (approximately 2 to 3 days on average) during which food consumption was limited to fruits and vegetables, followed by medically supervised water-only fasting (approximately 10 to 11 days on average) and a refeeding period (approximately 6 to 7 days on average) introducing a low-fat, low-sodium,
vegan diet.

Results: Almost 90% of the subjects achieved blood pressure less than 140/90 mm Hg by the end of the treatment program. The average reduction in blood pressure was 37/13 mm Hg, with the greatest decrease being observed for subjects with the most severe hypertension. Patients with stage 3 hypertension (those with systolic blood pressure greater than 180 mg Hg, diastolic blood pressure greater than 110 mg Hg, or both) had an average reduction of 60/17 mm Hg at the conclusion of treatment. All of the subjects who were taking antihypertensive medication at entry (6.3% of the total sample) successfully discontinued the use of medication.

Conclusion: Medically supervised water-only fasting appears to be a safe and effective means of normalizing blood pressure and may assist in motivating health-promoting diet and lifestyle changes. (J Manipulative Physiol Ther 2001;24:335-9) Key Indexing Terms: Fasting; Hypertension; Vegetarian

The word "consecutive" is important because it means that they did not cherry-pick their data.

http://www.healthpromoting.com/sites/def...ion(2).pdf
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I would want to see extended data on immune function after 5-10 years of repeated 10-day fasts.

There is research that shows fasting is safe and beneficial in the short run. However, the safety in the long term has not been demonstrated to my satisfaction.

After a long-term proponent of caloric restriction died of ALS in his seventies, other scientists started looking into his cause of death. It was proposed caloric restriction makes ALS worse. This is one of the articles:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article...ne.0009386

As mentioned in the post on STD's / rawdogging, pathogens are likely to be at the root of many western ailments. Some pathogens are targeted by autophagy, but others tend to multiply. Fasting might increase the disease burden in some individuals.

It would be interesting if one of the Russian members could check if there's Russian scientific literature detailing lifespan in those who attended the clinics more often for regular fasts.
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(04-08-2018 11:46 PM)Fortis Wrote:  His theory is that the human body is built to deal with and thrive off of extremes in natural settings.

It is not a theory. The scientific name is "hormesis," which is any type of stress that is placed upon the body and that causes it to adapt and to improve. Weight training and endurance exercises are forms of hormesis. Fasting is also a form of hormesis.

Quote:Other stresses. Beyond chemicals and radiation, other biological stresses have been shown to have hormetic effects. Some of the more interesting of these hormetic stresses include: calorie restriction, cold temperature, heat shock, and hypergravity.

https://gettingstronger.org/hormesis/


Check out Win Hof, The Iceman. He also has videos on You Tube.

Quote:Wim Hof can raise or lower his body temperature at will, overriding his autonomic nervous system. He is able to sit in a box of ice for almost two hours. He can swim 50 meters under arctic ice. Wearing only shorts and going barefoot, he has run a marathon in Lapland and climbed through snow to the summits of Mt. Everest and Mt. Kilamanjaro. In carrying out these feats, he is able to avoid hypothermia, the normal human response to extreme cold. Monitoring by physiologists show that he keeps his core temperature constant and normal during these challenges.

Yet Wim is not a genetic freak or Tibetan monk. He is a 52 year old Dutch man without much body fat. He believes that anyone can adapt to the cold and learn to control body temperature.

https://gettingstronger.org/2012/01/the-...#more-3678
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Makes sense. I have far better recovery, productivity and mental clarity on fasting. I'm very close to foregoing breakfast and night-food indefinitely at this juncture. Anyway, thanks for that data, it confirms what I already instinctively knew at a young age: eating all the fucking time makes no sense.

I am familiar with Wim Hoff. He's a madman, but he's definitely put his money where his mouth is.

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(04-09-2018 12:18 AM)asdfk Wrote:  There is research that shows fasting is safe and beneficial in the short run. However, the safety in the long term has not been demonstrated to my satisfaction.

This is a good point. One of my mentors on fasting is loren lockman who runs a fasting centre in Costa Rica. He has many videos on youtube with good information based on real experience.

According to him fasting would not be necessary if one ate properly as how nature intended. Wild animals are the most fit species on the planet bc they are forced to eat what nature gives them. But what is eating properly as nature intended for humans is not possible in the consume mindset environment we live in. For Loren, he mostly only eats water rich fruits about two times a day as his perfect diet. He barely drinks water bc the best source of water is from water rich fruits. How many could do that?

So his method is to do one long fast on water minimum 21 days and up to 40 depending on what the individual needs. After that one needs to start eating properly and no more fasts would be needed. But since most cannot do that then regular long fasts become necessary. But Loren himself no longer fasts bc what he eats according to him is close to perfect.
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(04-09-2018 12:18 AM)asdfk Wrote:  I would want to see extended data on immune function after 5-10 years of repeated 10-day fasts.

There is research that shows fasting is safe and beneficial in the short run. However, the safety in the long term has not been demonstrated to my satisfaction.

After a long-term proponent of caloric restriction died of ALS in his seventies, other scientists started looking into his cause of death. It was proposed caloric restriction makes ALS worse. This is one of the articles:

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article...ne.0009386

This study simply means that, just like any other medical treatment, fasting is contraindicated for certain medical conditions. For example, at the fasting clinic that I attended patients are not allowed to water fast if they have impaired liver function or a heart arrhythmia. There are also a handful of other health conditions that preclude fasting, including being on a high number of prescription medications. Prospective patients must have some blood tests run before they accept you as a patient. Even if such patients cannot water fast because of a health condition, however, most of them can still dramatically improve their health by undergoing a juice fast.

So, that study has no impact on the efficacy of long-term fasting on healthy individuals. But I do applaud your willingness to consider all the factors before undertaking something that affects your health. I read nearly a dozen books on fasting before giving it a try (most of the existing books are old and short).
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I apologise for not being clear. Fasting is likely to have benefits but it's also likely to be harmful in situations we are not aware of. The mentioned study is not evidence of this idea, but rather an illustration.

Many illnesses can have a sub-clinical presence for decades. Is there a possibility that fasting might speed up the progression of neurodegenerative diseases that have no apparent symptoms but are present on a sub-clinical level? We don't know.

Is fasting a cure-all? Ntuil there is long-term data I would be careful.
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^ Interesting. From what I've read doesn't fasting have neuro-protective qualities? I Can't find it, but I recall a study where scientists had Alzheimer's patients fast, and it helped with their dementia as opposed to accelerating it.

Either way, I am open to hearing multiple viewpoints on this matter. I tend to follow my gut when it comes to eating, and my body tends to like medium to low calorie diets for whatever. I've never been a big eater and I just go with that. People see what I eat and sometimes wonder how I sustain myself on such low amounts of calories, but it is what it is.

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Fasting (not eating anything, only drinking water) = Awesome.

"Dry Fasting" (not drinking anything) = Lethal.


By the way, am I the only one who occasionally just "forgets" to eat for a day? Sometimes I'm too busy with life or work, or I just don't feel like eating, so I don't.
I'm perfectly fine drinking tea and water, not a big deal.

I also remember when I was a kid (around 10 or 11) I once was curious about how long I can go without food. Back then I read a lot about Buddhism, meditation, asceticism and stuff like that, so I wanted to try and test my willpower. My mum's a nurse, so she kept an eye on me. The goal was one week, and I managed to do that.

In general, I find abstinence from eating a lot easier than for example abstinence from sex/chasing girls/masturbation.
Just don't eat. The hunger goes away, and that's that. My sex drive is a lot more difficult to control.
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The data from scientists is clear that not eating for 3-4 days seems to reset the immune system. That alone sounds very interesting. I don't remember the details but all the old white blood cells and other parts of the immune system are cannibalized after 4 days of not eating and new ones are produced by the body.

My guess is that animals should live how they lived for hundreds of thousands/millions of years before recent changes in the world due to mankind (ie the last 5,000 years). That most definitely includes periods of fasting/no food. It also includes low carb, very little sugar, no manmade shit like high fructose corn syrup from GMO corn. Sitting looking at a screen all day seems like an obvious bad thing our bodies were not meant for. Should be outside in nature, around plants, in a park.

I have experimented with 24-36 hours without food and it was fine, felt good, just couldn't lift so I had to have my schedule on point. This summer I plan to do a longer 4+ day fast for my health while I lay on the beach during the day and play PS4 at night.
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(04-09-2018 07:30 PM)Belgrano Wrote:  "Dry Fasting" (not drinking anything) = Lethal.

I have spent the last couple of days researching Dry Fasting. It is new to me, however, there many who support it and if done right it can have powerful positive affects. I would say keep an open mind and look into it more.

They say one day of a dry fast = 3 days of a water fast.

There is a soft dry fast where you use water externally and a hard dry fast where no water is used what so ever.

In a dry fast the body makes its own water by absorbing hydrogen from the fat cells and putting them in the blood stream which mixes with the oxygen one breathes in. The created water is in its most pure form and hydrates the body.

Some have done 7 days hard dry fasts on youtube -- check them out for more info.

Here is a vid that gives good info on why hard dry fast can be of big benefit. Intense but huge results.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUsRld1K8Eo
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(04-08-2018 05:20 AM)Ice Man Wrote:  
(04-07-2018 06:40 PM)Bain Wrote:  What I did say was a one day dry can be quite beneficial if you properly prepare yourself -- meaning drinking plenty of water (and fruits) before your fast. Emptying your system of water for a day of two and then drinking the 3 - 4 litres on the third day is like doing a inner body flush.

You have completely made this up and have no idea what you're talking about.

There is no benefit to dehydration, none. There is no "inner body flush" by dehydrating yourself then drinking again- unless your "inner body flush" means recovering normal brain cell function, normal blood flow, heart rate etc that was increasingly degrading every moment you remained dehydrated. Yeah, I imagine it probably feels great to return to a normal functioning brain, cardiovascular and respiratory system after a number of days without it. What a great flush!

In fact a dry fast does create a body flush.

This guy explains it well. Your body gets dehydrated but your body also creates new water by releasing hydrogen from fat cells into the blood stream and mixes it with the oxygen we breath in. A vacuum is created bc you have dehydrated cells due to the dry fast which kills the weak cells but new hydrated and healthy cells are also being created when the body makes its own water. This creates a flush where new healthy cell eliminate the old weak and dehydrated cells and old water in the body is replaced by the new water.

This guy explains the flush in a nice clear way starting at the 4:00 mark

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUsRld1K8Eo
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(04-09-2018 10:26 PM)Bain Wrote:  In fact a dry fast does create a body flush.

This guy explains it well. Your body gets dehydrated but your body also creates new water by releasing hydrogen from fat cells into the blood stream and mixes it with the oxygen we breath in. A vacuum is created bc you have dehydrated cells due to the dry fast which kills the weak cells but new hydrated and healthy cells are also being created when the body makes its own water. This creates a flush where new healthy cell eliminate the old weak and dehydrated cells and old water in the body is replaced by the new water.

This guy explains the flush in a nice clear way starting at the 4:00 mark

Do you believe everything you read? That video sounds like bro science to me. If there were tons of people reporting positive experiences with this and if there were proponents with medical / research backgrounds, I'd be less skeptical.
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Just thought I'd post my thoughts on this having done a 21 day water fast in 2016. For me this was one of the most important things that I have done in my life for several reasons:

1. Challenge

Up to about 10-14 days, the fast was fairly challenging but some tough days were offset by other days which went by more easily. However, the last 7-10 days were extremely tough. When you haven't eaten for that long all you can do is lie down and even your mental capacity for concentration starts to dwindle which means even reading or internet become less and less appealing. Even your desire to speak becomes less and your voice becomes weak. I pretty much spent the last week of my fast in my bed for 24 hours a day. Being able to forcibly keep yourself in that state as well as not eating, whilst feeling the weakest you've ever felt is extremely difficult. Not only that, but the thoughts and emotions which accompany that (see below) become intense. Overall, it’s one of the toughest mental challenges I've ever had to overcome. I wanted to break the fast at two weeks but it was almost like I was an explorer standing on the edge of an undiscovered land - I was intrigued and didn’t know what I would encounter. But going into the beyond where I had never been, walking straight into that and coming out of the other side felt like a huge accomplishment. Overall, it has given me some sort of superhuman mental resilience and monk like resistance to stressful life events that has stayed with me. This sort of highly-determined but Zen like state is something I am extremely grateful for.

2. Outlook/Spiritual

I barely talked to anyone during my fast, particularly in the latter stages. I had read somewhere about the value of silence but before this had never experienced it for myself. Being alone with your own thoughts for that long gives you time to really reflect on pretty much your whole life, your purpose and your goals in life. I had several realisations/revelations and developed a new way of looking at everything - work, relationships, fitness, human beings, politics, economics, food, fitness - you name it. It's like my brain could finally process all the information it had absorbed subconsciously my whole life. Now this all seems obvious to me - how are we really supposed to orientate ourselves in the world if all we do from a young age is study, work, exercise, have sex, eat and sleep. I cannot overemphasise the value of prolonged periods of isolated silence, let alone fasting, not just as a one off but as a regular part of life.

When I came out of my fast every single aspect of my life improved due to my new mindset. The resolute focus I now have on my contentment and cutting out everything that holds me me back was not there before and for some reason it is now hard wired into me. The combination of that meditative state, healing the body and connecting with myself was also extremely spiritual for me. Without going into too much detail, it opened me up to a new connection to 'the divine' whichever label one wants to put onto that. I explored my thoughts in detail about our origin, religions, the universe, nature, philosophy. I now walk around everyday with an extremely strong connection to everyone and everything. I'm more patient, more decisive, a better leader, a better teacher, a better thinker and a better citizen. I feel like a soldier-saint now: mentally and physically strong and ruthless where required, but also fair and generous in spirit where required. I'm free from alot of my previous fears and anxieties about life, money, success and death and more comfortable with myself. I was already on a path of self-development in relation to all of these things and had broken the back of most of them, but fasting really was like the final step for me. Again, my ability with women had been good, but after fasting I feel like this new energy, mindset, aura, look in my eyes or whatever you want to call it about me is intoxicating to so many women and it’s opened up a new path of hugely enjoyable experience when it comes to women. I'm also more focused on quality women over quantity and spending my time with top tier women over easy notches.

3. Physical

Obviously during the fast I lost a huge amount of weight. I never weighed myself but I looked pretty much like a skeleton. I had pretty much no fat or muscle mass and my face was gaunt and cheeks hollow. Friends and family were absolutely shocked when they saw me a couple of days after. I didn't feel any immediate benefits to the fast due to being depleted of food, however, in the first few days after as I started eating fruit and regained some energy I noticed an incredible lightness to my body in the same way as I did mentally. As I regained weight that remained, and I noticed that the occasional stiffness and lethargy that I used to regularly feel had gone completely. My energy levels were high and my skin was extremely clear. I didn't have any health issues to heal so I don't think the immediate physical benefits to me were as great as they would be for others.

However, the real physical benefits for me did come over the longer term as a result of doing the fast. By that I mean, my respect for my body in terms of what I put into it was far higher. I have not touched a drop of alcohol since and whilst I didn't eat a huge amount of junk before, I very rarely eat any at all now. I have a much lower tolerance for badly tasting/prepared food or food with little nutritional value, even on a one off. I am more comfortable and have the discipline to skip shitty meals and then have a good one rather that just eating because I'm hungry. I think that also comes from that feeling after the fast when you bite into that first piece of fruit - the amount of pleasure that gave me was pretty indescribable and I think seared into my head a new respect for food which you don't have when you're surrounded by it and eating it constantly. I am also far more focused on my exercise and weight training now. I used to neglect cardio quite alot but something about now really being aware of my body and knowing intuitively that I need to help my body means I do it alot more now and with alot more enjoyment because I want to do it more.



Overall, I’d highly recommend a prolonged water fast. Whether these results may be particular to me because of my natural tendency to be introspective I’m not sure. I think if you go into it treating it as a purely physical exercise you will achieve a little but perhaps be left a little frustrated. I believe the best approach is from a holistic point of view where you address the physical, mental and emotional at once. If that sounds too 'fluffy' for you then I'd argue that it's even more essential for you. And if you struggle with consistency and discipline I think it's absolutely essential. I’m aware that many people go for longer up to 40 days but I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing that without supervision from someone that’s trained. 21 days for me was really all that I could do safely without having someone that could take my vitals and supervise me and knowing that I would be ok. Feel free to ask my any questions.
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Nice post R. You expressed some depths of the finer points of a prolonged fast. The most I have done is ten days but I am working towards a 21 day fast myself. I cannot take time off work right now -- but as soon as I am able I attend to give it a try.
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(04-11-2018 04:59 AM)rcallini Wrote:  I’m aware that many people go for longer up to 40 days but I certainly wouldn’t recommend doing that without supervision from someone that’s trained. 21 days for me was really all that I could do safely without having someone that could take my vitals and supervise me and knowing that I would be ok. Feel free to ask my any questions.

Thanks for sharing your experience. You obviously received many benefits from your fast. I would add two points.

1) First, I would exercise caution for any water-only fast that goes beyond a week unless it is medically supervised, especially if you live alone. It is likely that your body will adapt and that you will be OK, but health complications can also arise.

2) Second, everyone will have a different experience when they fast. Some people will feel as weak as a kitten. Other people will feel energized, as if they can run a marathon. It is best to have an open mind and to be prepared for a number of different scenarios.

During my first fast, which I did at home, I had a goal of a five day fast but I felt very weak and lightheaded after just 3-1/2 days so I discontinued it. Yet, when I did my two-weak fast I felt as if I could have easily done another week. This was after doing more than a dozen shorter fasts on my own. When I say "easily," I mean by residing at a fasting facility, not working or even living at home. The passage of time was also far more normal at a fasting facility because I had optional classes to attend and people with a similar interest in fasting and health with whom to interact, but perhaps I missed out on the introspective benefits that rcallini mentioned (although you still have that option at the clinic by just remaining in your room).
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Wow, I am just completing a 3 day hard dry fast. Meaning no water intake and no showers or touching water. I just finished having some incredible water melon.

I only recently heard about hard dry fasting from here and I fully endorse it. It seems many are so misinformed about hydration. The body can easily handle no water for at least a few days and more unless one is perhaps thin or has some ailment. It is true the body starts making its own water by using hydrogen from the fat cells and combining it with oxygen. I was urinating quite a bit right through day 3 though I did not drink no water. My stomach actually felt full of water and the excess water created by the body had to be urinated.

I am quite glad I did this. I am a bit overweight - weighing 225 lbs and after the 3 days I am at 211. So I did not lose 14 lbs of water. A lot of that was fat. Hard dry fasting really goes after the fat -- and you barely lose any muscle or strength. I am also in my 50s, so my metabolism has slowed. I do weights and cardio about 3 times a week - reasonably good diet but still could not get the fat off. I think hard dry fasting does an amazing job going after the fat. But one needs to build up to it - by doing a good number of water fasts first.

Everything in nature does dry fasting -- even the trees, plants, flowers and most animals. How do bears fast for the winter months with no food or water? They live off the reserves of the fat from their bodies. Fat does create a large amount of metabolic water. Humans can also dry fast without much problem also -- that is now my opinion.
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OP, how did you transition from not eating to eating?

I would think not having any food in days will make you go for the next cheeseburger you see. What did you ate following the fast.
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(04-13-2018 01:35 PM)Pancho Wrote:  OP, how did you transition from not eating to eating?

I would think not having any food in days will make you go for the next cheeseburger you see. What did you ate following the fast.

I am not the OP, but I did a 14-day water-only fast at a fasting clinic. For the length of your fast, you need a 50% re-feeding period because it takes time to reactivate your digestive system. So, if you fast for two weeks you should do a seven-day re-feed period. The first day or two you drink only juice or broth, then move on to cooked organic vegetables, then to raw organic vegetables, then to beans and grains, then to a normal (hopefully improved) diet.

You can really injure yourself after a fast by eating a big meal laden with meat. Of course, every person is different, so what will harm one person may not bother another person. But it is best to be careful and exercise caution.
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Interesting thread OP. for all the benefits of water fasting how do you overcome the loss in energy, focus and being irritable
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One thing I need to say again is the primary reason one does a fast is to achieve GOOD INTERNAL HEALTH. This means getting good blood pressure, low cholesterol, insulin, healthy cells, fighting off diseases and cancers and a many other things. Fasting normalizes the TOTAL body and brings it back to health.

You can be fit but not healthy. But you can be healthy and not fit.

Many people who look fit often end up with a serious illness or even death. It is common.

Fasting is a direct path to achieve internal health in a short period. It is an ancient practice - and it is a gift to one's life. One who develops the discipline to learn the skills on how to fast benefit greatly.

Fasting however also helps one to become fit by losing fat and weight and making workouts more easy to do with more results. But that is a SECONDARY purpose. It is usually best to work out in a somewhat fasted state for greater benefits.
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I did a 14 day water only fast previously and I did not have a refeeding period. I just ate whatever the hell I wanted from the get go as soon as the 14 days ended and I felt fine. This fast was unsupervised and I was working and exercising during the fasting period.
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I've got a heavy work day tomorrow but I'm going to try a one day fast from sundown Saturday to sundown Sunday. (Dunno why Sundown, just kinda feels appropriate.) You all have convinced me.

None of this "not showering for 3 days will make me lose crazy amounts of fat" stuff though. I would want to see some form of paper on pubmed or any other medical journal before I try that.

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I just read this article about fasting from an Ayurvedic perspective. Here is an excerpt from the article:

Quote:The famine of spring is nature’s way to enforce a season of intermittent fasting. This is also nature’s time to cleanse and detox. Nobel Prize-winning science has found that fasting increases a process called autophagy. Autophagy is the body’s way of cleaning house. It happens during starvation, calorie restriction, and fasting. Autophagy is one method that the body uses to naturally neutralize cancer cells and degrade cells infected by harmful bacteria and viruses. Intermittent fasting has been linked to numerous health benefits, including:

Decreased diabetes risk
Decreased cardiovascular risk
Improved longevity
Protection against cancer
Reduced risk of neurological concerns
Decreased inflammation
Balanced lipid levels
Reduced blood pressure
Reduced oxidative stress
Balanced weight

https://lifespa.com/ayurvedic-intermitte...d27af054b2
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