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We have our lady of Fatima guiding us, and believe it, we'll at least pass group stages.

It's not that the rest of the team is "bad". That is incorrect. Many are playing in top teams. What happens is that our coach is too much of a coward regarding attitude and that passes to the players and the offensive production suffers. Still, Portugal always plays better after the group stage and I expect to see that happening again. We still have loads of people like you to piss off. Big Grin

(06-20-2018 09:37 AM)MANic Wrote:  I've been having the same feeling of dread I had all through the Euros. God, Portugal are objectively awful and have been for quite some time yet they seem to grind out results. I sincerely hope they don't win or even progress far. Apart from CR, the rest of the side is mediocre at best.

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Ultimately soccer is a game of stats. The strongest team does not win every time - they just win 7 out of 10 times, get 2 draws and one loss. Daily form of players is different and sometimes their own resolve changes.

Marocco played well, but it was not meant to be. At least they can say goodbye with their heads held high. Saw the second half and they gave it all - put the pressure on Portugal. Some of the weaker teams often use those championships well and their players later get offers from bigger clubs around the world who were impressed by the performance of those players.
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For those who don't follow Soccer in Africa , marroco even in Africa cup used always to play well and always leave first round of the tournament . Marroco is a typical team where players run run run and never score. I don't know whats wrong with them but it is been always the case.

Soccer is about playing with intelligence and be efficient , as much as I hate Italian system , but Italy won many world cups with defending well and score the few opportunites they got.
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(06-20-2018 09:59 AM)casa-nostra Wrote:  For those who don't follow Soccer in Africa , marroco even in Africa cup used always to play well and always leave first round of the tournament . Marroco is a typical team where players run run run and never score. I don't know whats wrong with them but it is been always the case.

Soccer is about playing with intelligence and be efficient , as much as I hate Italian system , but Italy won many world cups with defending well and score the few opportunites they got.

Heh - then they succeeded at that well.
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(06-19-2018 04:43 PM)H1N1 Wrote:  I fucking love this video. I've watched it quite a few times over the past couple of days.




that was in France .
in Russia , pretty much Tunisians were twice or more than British and they create great atmosphere , here some british fans admit to be outnumbered by Tunisians.

Second game in Moscow , Tunisians expected to be 15000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDZPlFoVzyw



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(06-20-2018 09:40 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  We have our lady of Fatima guiding us, and believe it, we'll at least pass group stages.

It's not that the rest of the team is "bad". That is incorrect. Many are playing in top teams. What happens is that our coach is too much of a coward regarding attitude and that passes to the players and the offensive production suffers. Still, Portugal always plays better after the group stage and I expect to see that happening again. We still have loads of people like you to piss off. Big Grin

(06-20-2018 09:37 AM)MANic Wrote:  I've been having the same feeling of dread I had all through the Euros. God, Portugal are objectively awful and have been for quite some time yet they seem to grind out results. I sincerely hope they don't win or even progress far. Apart from CR, the rest of the side is mediocre at best.

Leaving out CR7...who are these other top players? Can you name some?
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Bernardo Silva plays for Manchester City, Guedes is from PSG and had an amazing season at Valencia. Several players will be hitting big teams soon, like Gelson, Bruno Fernandes and maybe William. Guerreiro plays for Borussia Dortmund. Patricio was the best goalkeeper of the Euro last time. Mario Rui plays for Napoli, etc etc. They're not top in the sense of world class at their positions, but nothing at all related to mediocre!

(06-20-2018 10:35 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 09:40 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  We have our lady of Fatima guiding us, and believe it, we'll at least pass group stages.

It's not that the rest of the team is "bad". That is incorrect. Many are playing in top teams. What happens is that our coach is too much of a coward regarding attitude and that passes to the players and the offensive production suffers. Still, Portugal always plays better after the group stage and I expect to see that happening again. We still have loads of people like you to piss off. Big Grin

(06-20-2018 09:37 AM)MANic Wrote:  I've been having the same feeling of dread I had all through the Euros. God, Portugal are objectively awful and have been for quite some time yet they seem to grind out results. I sincerely hope they don't win or even progress far. Apart from CR, the rest of the side is mediocre at best.

Leaving out CR7...who are these other top players? Can you name some?

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(06-20-2018 10:50 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Bernardo Silva plays for Manchester City, Guedes is from PSG and had an amazing season at Valencia. Several players will be hitting big teams soon, like Gelson, Bruno Fernandes and maybe William. Guerreiro plays for Borussia Dortmund. Patricio was the best goalkeeper of the Euro last time. Mario Rui plays for Napoli, etc etc. They're not top in the sense of world class at their positions, but nothing at all related to mediocre!

(06-20-2018 10:35 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 09:40 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  We have our lady of Fatima guiding us, and believe it, we'll at least pass group stages.

It's not that the rest of the team is "bad". That is incorrect. Many are playing in top teams. What happens is that our coach is too much of a coward regarding attitude and that passes to the players and the offensive production suffers. Still, Portugal always plays better after the group stage and I expect to see that happening again. We still have loads of people like you to piss off. Big Grin

(06-20-2018 09:37 AM)MANic Wrote:  I've been having the same feeling of dread I had all through the Euros. God, Portugal are objectively awful and have been for quite some time yet they seem to grind out results. I sincerely hope they don't win or even progress far. Apart from CR, the rest of the side is mediocre at best.

Leaving out CR7...who are these other top players? Can you name some?

First of all let me make it clear that I totally believe football is a team game and not an individual one and this is a pure personal opinion but all the above are mediocre players:

Bernardo Silva - Bench at ManC. Sane and Sterling are the starters. Nothing special about him.

Gelson Martins - Still in Portugal. This is another Quaresma type of player. We'll see though.

B.Fernandes - Failed miserably in Italy and returned to Portugal.

Guerreiro - One of the worst for Borussia. He won't last another year there.

William - He's OK. (again personal opinion)

Patricio - I will say he's quite good.

Mario Rui - Failed at Roma. At Napoli they tried to make him play on both sides but he's just a normal player.
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Yeah. Pure personal opinion. Those are Champions league type of players. I would debate further but it's a complete waste of time. Frankly could not be arsed. What matters is how far they might go.

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(06-20-2018 11:10 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 10:50 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Bernardo Silva plays for Manchester City, Guedes is from PSG and had an amazing season at Valencia. Several players will be hitting big teams soon, like Gelson, Bruno Fernandes and maybe William. Guerreiro plays for Borussia Dortmund. Patricio was the best goalkeeper of the Euro last time. Mario Rui plays for Napoli, etc etc. They're not top in the sense of world class at their positions, but nothing at all related to mediocre!

(06-20-2018 10:35 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 09:40 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  We have our lady of Fatima guiding us, and believe it, we'll at least pass group stages.

It's not that the rest of the team is "bad". That is incorrect. Many are playing in top teams. What happens is that our coach is too much of a coward regarding attitude and that passes to the players and the offensive production suffers. Still, Portugal always plays better after the group stage and I expect to see that happening again. We still have loads of people like you to piss off. Big Grin

(06-20-2018 09:37 AM)MANic Wrote:  I've been having the same feeling of dread I had all through the Euros. God, Portugal are objectively awful and have been for quite some time yet they seem to grind out results. I sincerely hope they don't win or even progress far. Apart from CR, the rest of the side is mediocre at best.

Leaving out CR7...who are these other top players? Can you name some?

First of all let me make it clear that I totally believe football is a team game and not an individual one and this is a pure personal opinion but all the above are mediocre players:

Bernardo Silva - Bench at ManC. Sane and Sterling are the starters. Nothing special about him.

Gelson Martins - Still in Portugal. This is another Quaresma type of player. We'll see though.

B.Fernandes - Failed miserably in Italy and returned to Portugal.

Guerreiro - One of the worst for Borussia. He won't last another year there.

William - He's OK. (again personal opinion)

Patricio - I will say he's quite good.

Mario Rui - Failed at Roma. At Napoli they tried to make him play on both sides but he's just a normal player.

What happened to Nani? He really stepped up in that final game vs. France in the Euro once Ronaldo left the game due to injury.
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(06-20-2018 11:42 AM)Diop Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 11:10 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 10:50 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Bernardo Silva plays for Manchester City, Guedes is from PSG and had an amazing season at Valencia. Several players will be hitting big teams soon, like Gelson, Bruno Fernandes and maybe William. Guerreiro plays for Borussia Dortmund. Patricio was the best goalkeeper of the Euro last time. Mario Rui plays for Napoli, etc etc. They're not top in the sense of world class at their positions, but nothing at all related to mediocre!

(06-20-2018 10:35 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 09:40 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  We have our lady of Fatima guiding us, and believe it, we'll at least pass group stages.

It's not that the rest of the team is "bad". That is incorrect. Many are playing in top teams. What happens is that our coach is too much of a coward regarding attitude and that passes to the players and the offensive production suffers. Still, Portugal always plays better after the group stage and I expect to see that happening again. We still have loads of people like you to piss off. Big Grin

Leaving out CR7...who are these other top players? Can you name some?

First of all let me make it clear that I totally believe football is a team game and not an individual one and this is a pure personal opinion but all the above are mediocre players:

Bernardo Silva - Bench at ManC. Sane and Sterling are the starters. Nothing special about him.

Gelson Martins - Still in Portugal. This is another Quaresma type of player. We'll see though.

B.Fernandes - Failed miserably in Italy and returned to Portugal.

Guerreiro - One of the worst for Borussia. He won't last another year there.

William - He's OK. (again personal opinion)

Patricio - I will say he's quite good.

Mario Rui - Failed at Roma. At Napoli they tried to make him play on both sides but he's just a normal player.

What happened to Nani? He really stepped up in that final game vs. France in the Euro once Ronaldo left the game due to injury.

Nani plays for Lazio in Italy and never made it to be a starter, always from the bench. Those few games that played he never made a difference. Nani used to leverage a lot his speed and once that dropped he just became a very boring player. He didn't make the cut in this Portugal team.
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Everytime I see this commercial it makes me want to go to Brazil more and more.



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And now ISIS's team are going home. Good riddance.

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Iran is parking the bus.
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(06-20-2018 11:10 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 10:50 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  Bernardo Silva plays for Manchester City, Guedes is from PSG and had an amazing season at Valencia. Several players will be hitting big teams soon, like Gelson, Bruno Fernandes and maybe William. Guerreiro plays for Borussia Dortmund. Patricio was the best goalkeeper of the Euro last time. Mario Rui plays for Napoli, etc etc. They're not top in the sense of world class at their positions, but nothing at all related to mediocre!

(06-20-2018 10:35 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-20-2018 09:40 AM)LEMONed IScream Wrote:  We have our lady of Fatima guiding us, and believe it, we'll at least pass group stages.

It's not that the rest of the team is "bad". That is incorrect. Many are playing in top teams. What happens is that our coach is too much of a coward regarding attitude and that passes to the players and the offensive production suffers. Still, Portugal always plays better after the group stage and I expect to see that happening again. We still have loads of people like you to piss off. Big Grin

(06-20-2018 09:37 AM)MANic Wrote:  I've been having the same feeling of dread I had all through the Euros. God, Portugal are objectively awful and have been for quite some time yet they seem to grind out results. I sincerely hope they don't win or even progress far. Apart from CR, the rest of the side is mediocre at best.

Leaving out CR7...who are these other top players? Can you name some?

First of all let me make it clear that I totally believe football is a team game and not an individual one and this is a pure personal opinion but all the above are mediocre players:

Bernardo Silva - Bench at ManC. Sane and Sterling are the starters. Nothing special about him.

Gelson Martins - Still in Portugal. This is another Quaresma type of player. We'll see though.

B.Fernandes - Failed miserably in Italy and returned to Portugal.

Guerreiro - One of the worst for Borussia. He won't last another year there.

William - He's OK. (again personal opinion)

Patricio - I will say he's quite good.

Mario Rui - Failed at Roma. At Napoli they tried to make him play on both sides but he's just a normal player.

Yep. And most of them still managed to be the 2016 euro champions. The squad from 2016 had even less stars.
Portugal has CR7 that´s it. It´s the same than 2016. It could be him and 10 one-legged players. Patricio is also good.
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Haven't been following the lastest games.

Saw Portugal today and we were very lucky.

Ronaldo and Patricio saved the day.

That said, they're hardly the only good players on the team. Some prospects are underperforming sure. But don't count out B.Silva, Guedes or Gelson just yet.

If I remember correctly Portugal won the final in Paris against France without Ronaldo.

On to Russia or Uruguay!
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Diego Costa is a beast.

If he had chosen to play for his real country (Brazil), they would be clear favourites to win.
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I am loving the VAR video assistant referee - the current Iranian goal against the Spaniards which was shot offside might have been counted in past times.

Now it's much easier to catch both penalty fouls as well as penalty con artists. Ronaldo was lucky that the VAR was not used on one of his stunts or he would have gotten a red card for that.

They should use the VAR system more often by giving the main referee a tablet where he gets a feed uploaded for the most pressing scenes.
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I hate the theatrics that some of the Iranian players have chosen to pull. But damn is they aren’t making a real go of it. Some of the individual skill has been impressive too.
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(06-20-2018 12:50 AM)Pancho Wrote:  You can't stop the "puto" chant.



Been doing that in Portugal since... forever.






Portuguese team lacks better players. It really is Ronaldo and Rui Patricio + 9.
Raphael was completely demolished by the morrocan guys. He should have been replaced at half time.
Another boring game for Portugal with an unfair result, but the 3 points are with us and that's what matters.
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(06-20-2018 01:36 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Iran is parking the bus.

So looks like they went for the 0-0 which would have been suicidal for Spain...when Spain scored though they woke up and you gotta give it to them...they tried.
In all honesty I am disappointed with Spain, after the game with Portugal I was expecting them to win like 3 or 4-0 with Iran!
Kudos to Iran though!
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I'm not impressed with Spain.

They should have wrecked Iran. Even their single goal was unimpressive. It looked more like an auto-goal to me more than anything.

I'm not impressed with Uruguay either. But then again Uruguay usually wins by 1 goal every-time no matter who the opponent is.

The Russians are playing good right now. They're on a mission as if their lives depended on it. They're playing as if Stalin is still alive and has a train set up to take the players to the gulag if they lose. Is not going to be easy for Uruguay in the next game.

CR always coming through for his team.

Looking forward to Argentina vs Croatia and the France vs. Peru game.

The world cup is wide open at this point. I don't see an actual dominant team.

Mexico really fucked the world cup up for the planners. Everyone wanted to see a Germany vs. Brazil final, but now with Mexico's win over Germany, both the Germans and Brazilians have a chance to see each other in the round of 16 which is great.
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I think a lot of the older, rich players simply give less of fuck and that's why we're seeing the blue chips not play so well. If you lived like a king for years with wealth & top shelf pussy eventually you'd lose that killer instinct IMO. The unknown players are hungry to win. I think mexico has the right balance of talent and young hunger right now.
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(06-20-2018 03:45 PM)Disco_Volante Wrote:  I think a lot of the older, rich players simply give less of fuck and that's why we're seeing the blue chips not play so well. If you lived like a king for years with wealth & top shelf pussy eventually you'd lose that killer instinct IMO. The unknown players are hungry to win.

It frankly looks like to me too. In addition there is something else that might be going on. The feeling of "fighting for your nation" is simply eroding. Even if all of you are born Brazilians, Swedes or Polish - most of the players are living and working in various countries, have little in common with their host country, they are being told that borders are irrelevant and nations are racist anyway. So why should they fight that hard? I mean - the Blue Chip guys have achieved what they wanted in life. Sure - a next world cup would be fine, but they will be more willing to fight in the next Champions League run.

The smaller teams - they want to show all their skill to get a boost in their career. But obviously they don't have the skills to pump in 3 goals out of 6 chances.
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Yeah, soccer players are part of the global elite.

They live like them too, rootless rich cosmopolitans.

We should really cherish teams like Iceland.
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