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Man those are some weak-ass excuses. The handball was a penalty. Get over it.
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(07-16-2018 02:09 PM)TigerMandingo Wrote:  Man those are some weak-ass excuses. The handball was a penalty. Get over it.

Yah the level of denial around here on that is ridiculous.

If you jump up in front of the net with your arms out you are rolling the dice, period. This is why a lot of players hold their arms firmly at their sides when jumping up to defend in front of the net. Anything else is too risky, as we've just seen.

The refs have to be complete, total and uncompromising hardasses when it comes to handballs because any hint of lenience or weakness will see that shit slowly creeping in over time and ruining the game. If you think Neymar-style faking/cheating/diving/etc is bad now, the bullshit associated with "accidental" handballs would make it look tame by comparison if the refs did not consistently exact the harshest possible penalties with the quickness.

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Just saw an interesting stat that Giroud is the first, and probably the last, center forward to win the World Cup without registering a single shot on target in the entire tournament, and he played pretty much every minute of it.

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Last one to score zero goal was Guivar'ch , in France 98.

The latter is selling swimming pools in France now Smile

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(07-17-2018 05:28 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  Just saw an interesting stat that Giroud is the first, and probably the last, center forward to win the World Cup without registering a single shot on target in the entire tournament, and he played pretty much every minute of it.

Yeah I dont get why they picked Giroud. Why is he at Chelsea? A player like him should be at Swansea or Newcastle. Same as Welbeck. Maybe its his 'hold up play', whatever that means.

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^ Giroud hasn't played badly either to be honest. Also, Giroud is there as the ladies' choice, what a handsome French bastard he is... no homo of course.
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(07-17-2018 06:23 AM)MANic Wrote:  ^ Giroud hasn't played badly either to be honest. Also, Giroud is there as the ladies' choice, what a handsome French bastard he is... no homo of course.

546 - Olivier Giroud didn't attempt a single shot on target in 546 minutes at this World Cup for France. Nonplussed.

Your striker didn't even take 1 shot on goal and he didn't play bad?

Colombian center back Mina scored 3 goals.
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(07-17-2018 07:39 AM)Rossi Wrote:  
(07-17-2018 06:23 AM)MANic Wrote:  ^ Giroud hasn't played badly either to be honest. Also, Giroud is there as the ladies' choice, what a handsome French bastard he is... no homo of course.

546 - Olivier Giroud didn't attempt a single shot on target in 546 minutes at this World Cup for France. Nonplussed.

Your striker didn't even take 1 shot on goal and he didn't play bad?

Colombian center back Mina scored 3 goals.

Then got the Ws and took home the trophy that's what matters. Giroud is a player i like being an Arsenal Fan. Yes he is a good point man.. He wins the ball in the air and brings in others. Not only that but he's good on set pieces.

In the end they won with him as the forward. I don't think they care too much about the stats.
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(07-17-2018 07:56 AM)zigZag Wrote:  Then got the Ws and took home the trophy that's what matters. Giroud is a player i like being an Arsenal Fan. Yes he is a good point man.. He wins the ball in the air and brings in others. Not only that but he's good on set pieces.

In the end they won with him as the forward. I don't think they care too much about the stats.

Exactly, so that didn't happen because of Giroud. If France played Lacazette, Fekir or Benzema, they would have won it easier. At least, they could have took a shot on target 1 time throughout the tournament mrgreen
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Nah, Giroud provided great structure allowing Mbappe and Griezmann to play off him. A big number 9 adds quite a bit even when he isn't scoring - would take a Benzema over him, a Fekir would materially alter the team structure, however.
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(07-16-2018 06:38 PM)Buck Wild Wrote:  The refs have to be complete, total and uncompromising hardasses when it comes to handballs because any hint of lenience or weakness will see that shit slowly creeping in over time and ruining the game. If you think Neymar-style faking/cheating/diving/etc is bad now, the bullshit associated with "accidental" handballs would make it look tame by comparison if the refs did not consistently exact the harshest possible penalties with the quickness.

Actually now that VAR has been introduced, diving/acting/faking has to be an automatic yellow card. That would teach them real quick.
It's not acceptable that the whole world is seeing a player faking it, in slow motion, over and over again and again and again, right after it happened, but nothing happens to punish them for it.
Player is diving -> VAR notifies referee -> next time the game is interrupted for whatever reason, referee shows player the yellow card for diving.
It could be so easy!

(07-17-2018 08:36 AM)Rossi Wrote:  Exactly, so that didn't happen because of Giroud. If France played Lacazette, Fekir or Benzema, they would have won it easier. At least, they could have took a shot on target 1 time throughout the tournament mrgreen

Or so you think.
Deschamps could have played any of the strikers you mentioned, yet he didn't.
Him and his team are not blind, they sure noticed that Giroud didn't have any shots on target or scored any goals, obviously. Still picked him for their starting 11 again and again. Don't you think there's a reason for that?

It might be unpopular, but a 9 doesn't necessarily have to score lots of goals, especially not with the offensive power France has available on all other positions. Giroud has a high work rate, he's disciplined and he always helps out when the team is defending. He holds the ball up, he distributes it, he's winning headers and, very important, he occupies the centre-backs. And that means lots and lots of space for Griezmann and Mbappe.

So in the end, it paid off for Deschamps and they won the thing with his tactic and choice of players. Who can argue with that?
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^^^^ What still boggles my mind as it pertains to Neymar is that the fact that they allowed Neymar to be on the ground whining a considerable amount of time in the games. He lasted a total of 15 minutes on the ground in this world cup. WTF are the refs doing? Are you really going to stand by and watch this dude roll over and cry for 15 minutes and not give a yellow card?
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Giroud draws defenders, his physical presence makes it hard for one defender to cover him. This opens up things for the smaller quicker forwards Mbappe and Griezmann. The combination of one big center forward and a speedy winger is a classic one.

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(07-17-2018 06:23 AM)MANic Wrote:  ^ Giroud hasn't played badly either to be honest. Also, Giroud is there as the ladies' choice, what a handsome French bastard he is... no homo of course.

546 - Olivier Giroud didn't attempt a single shot on target in 546 minutes at this World Cup for France. Nonplussed.

Your striker didn't even take 1 shot on goal and he didn't play bad?

Giroud scored about as many goals at this world cup as the entire Italian team combined. lol

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(07-17-2018 09:31 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  Or so you think.
Deschamps could have played any of the strikers you mentioned, yet he didn't.
Him and his team are not blind, they sure noticed that Giroud didn't have any shots on target or scored any goals, obviously. Still picked him for their starting 11 again and again. Don't you think there's a reason for that?

It might be unpopular, but a 9 doesn't necessarily have to score lots of goals, especially not with the offensive power France has available on all other positions. Giroud has a high work rate, he's disciplined and he always helps out when the team is defending. He holds the ball up, he distributes it, he's winning headers and, very important, he occupies the centre-backs. And that means lots and lots of space for Griezmann and Mbappe.

So in the end, it paid off for Deschamps and they won the thing with his tactic and choice of players. Who can argue with that?

Wenger and Conte didn't play Giroud. Before that, he was playing at Montpellier. Do you think every coach in the world is blind and only Deschamps is the genius one?

He was a bench-warmer at Arsenal for 5 years, when the coach was French. Before that, he was at Montpellier. If he was so great, why didn't nobody get him? I mean, even Wenger didn't play him regularly at Arsenal. Conte said, we got Arsenal bench forward instead of someone I want.

Winning World Cup doesn't make you great coach, just like Löw. He won the World Cup in 2014 by scoring 7 goals against Brazil and this time, he couldn't even get out of group.

So, if you win a World Cup, it doesn't still justify every action you took about the team. Giroud will never become key player any club that he plays for, as long as he doesn't play for mediocre teams.

Lacazette, Fekir and Benzema are a lot better than Giroud any day. Thus, that's why, their values are a lot higher than Giroud. We're talking about a striker, (forget about scoring) who couldn't even take a single shot on target mrgreen
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Hope poor Giroud gets at least a shot on target post-WC winning, when all kinds of French pussies are thrown at him. I know that kid Mbappe's gonna be swimming in those.

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Mbappe's got a tight family and a close relationship with his mother and father, probably the kind of man who is going to settle down early instead of riding the male carousel.


(07-17-2018 06:55 PM)Rossi Wrote:  
(07-17-2018 09:31 AM)Belgrano Wrote:  Or so you think.
Deschamps could have played any of the strikers you mentioned, yet he didn't.
Him and his team are not blind, they sure noticed that Giroud didn't have any shots on target or scored any goals, obviously. Still picked him for their starting 11 again and again. Don't you think there's a reason for that?

It might be unpopular, but a 9 doesn't necessarily have to score lots of goals, especially not with the offensive power France has available on all other positions. Giroud has a high work rate, he's disciplined and he always helps out when the team is defending. He holds the ball up, he distributes it, he's winning headers and, very important, he occupies the centre-backs. And that means lots and lots of space for Griezmann and Mbappe.

So in the end, it paid off for Deschamps and they won the thing with his tactic and choice of players. Who can argue with that?

Wenger and Conte didn't play Giroud. Before that, he was playing at Montpellier. Do you think every coach in the world is blind and only Deschamps is the genius one?

He was a bench-warmer at Arsenal for 5 years, when the coach was French. Before that, he was at Montpellier. If he was so great, why didn't nobody get him? I mean, even Wenger didn't play him regularly at Arsenal. Conte said, we got Arsenal bench forward instead of someone I want.

Winning World Cup doesn't make you great coach, just like Löw. He won the World Cup in 2014 by scoring 7 goals against Brazil and this time, he couldn't even get out of group.

So, if you win a World Cup, it doesn't still justify every action you took about the team. Giroud will never become key player any club that he plays for, as long as he doesn't play for mediocre teams.

Lacazette, Fekir and Benzema are a lot better than Giroud any day. Thus, that's why, their values are a lot higher than Giroud. We're talking about a striker, (forget about scoring) who couldn't even take a single shot on target mrgreen

Your takes are that of a lower-level, glory hunter football fan, those are not the points a higher-level student of the game would make.

Benzema is (a) not that good, and (b) a highly toxic low class persona who would poison team chemistry.

Your take on Low is ridiculous, the guy built a dynasty and proved himself. He became a bit complacent, and so did his players, but that is a common pattern (see France '10, Spain etc).

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Summary of all the celebrations in entire Croatia for the past 2 days:

Zero property damage
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