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(06-26-2018 05:46 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  
Quote:2- Most posters who advocate for "less politics" on the forum , actually are very politicized themselves. Often, they are more or less secretly Left-leaning and when they say, Stop the politicization of the forum, what they really mean is: let's curb the Conservatism and "right-wing opinions" prevalent here on RVF, so that we "Liberals" take control of the threads.

That's all in your head. In reality, they just want to watch a football game or see a movie or clean their room without having to hear, yet again for the bazillionth time, from the usual culprits, about the globalists and Jews.

You lot are just like the SJWs except nominally on the right. "The personal is political" is your motto, just like theirs. With SJWs, if you don't go with all of their talking points, you get branded a Nazi. With you lot, if we don't talk about all your pet topics with every perceived opportunity, we're globalist stooges, or secret Leftists.

There is a time and place for politics, and there is living life. Go for a walk among nature, lift some heavy shit, then find a woman to mate. If you call yourself Conservative, then put a ring on it and put some babies in her too.
^ What he said.

I was pissing off leftists with my candor long before it was cool to do it on the Internet. I'm far from left-leaning but I advocate for less politics on the forum (other than in the politics section of course).

The first reason is that I just don't want to talk about it all the time. I don't know why it is so difficult for people to understand that libertarians don't want to talk about politics all the time. Yes, the same group of people who advocate for less government and less politicians also want to spend less time discussing politics. What a concept!!!

The second reason is the hypocrisy of a small minority of the politically oriented guys on the forum. A small minority of the politics guys play the same games as SJWs. Straw man arguments, shouting other people down, insults, and using whatever means necessary other than truth and logic to defeat the people who disagree with them.

It always boggles my mind how some people in the manosphere claim to be red pill. Red pill is synonymous with truth. If you have the type of personality that places a very high value on truth, honesty, integrity, and accuracy then the spin and bullshit that some people use to try to win arguments should annoy the hell out of you just like it does to me, even if the bullshitter is on the same side of the argument as you. Dishonesty and bullshit make my skin crawl which is why I try to avoid political conversations where truth and logic are a lower priority than winning an argument on the Internet.
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(06-26-2018 06:18 PM)LeBeau Wrote:  A politics rant derailed by soccer...

This thread is not going in the direction Abu Sayyaf was hoping for.

Like it or not, soccer impacts all aspects of life. It is all around you. Whether you pay attention to it or not, the world will continue playing soccer. If you continue to ignore it, other people will get even further ahead of you at it. It's up to us senior members to teach the young ones about soccer, lest they get left behind too.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
(06-26-2018 06:19 PM)birthday cat Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 05:46 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  
Quote:2- Most posters who advocate for "less politics" on the forum , actually are very politicized themselves. Often, they are more or less secretly Left-leaning and when they say, Stop the politicization of the forum, what they really mean is: let's curb the Conservatism and "right-wing opinions" prevalent here on RVF, so that we "Liberals" take control of the threads.

That's all in your head. In reality, they just want to watch a football game or see a movie or clean their room without having to hear, yet again for the bazillionth time, from the usual culprits, about the globalists and Jews.

You lot are just like the SJWs except nominally on the right. "The personal is political" is your motto, just like theirs. With SJWs, if you don't go with all of their talking points, you get branded a Nazi. With you lot, if we don't talk about all your pet topics with every perceived opportunity, we're globalist stooges, or secret Leftists.

There is a time and place for politics, and there is living life. Go for a walk among nature, lift some heavy shit, then find a woman to mate. If you call yourself Conservative, then put a ring on it and put some babies in her too.
^ What he said.

I was pissing off leftists with my candor long before it was cool to do it on the Internet. I'm far from left-leaning but I advocate for less politics on the forum (other than in the politics section of course).

The first reason is that I just don't want to talk about it all the time. I don't know why it is so difficult for people to understand that libertarians don't want to talk about politics all the time. Yes, the same group of people who advocate for less government and less politicians also want to spend less time discussing politics. What a concept!!!

The second reason is the hypocrisy of a small minority of the politically oriented guys on the forum. A small minority of the politics guys play the same games as SJWs. Straw man arguments, shouting other people down, insults, and using whatever means necessary other than truth and logic to defeat the people who disagree with them.

It always boggles my mind how some people in the manosphere claim to be red pill. Red pill is synonymous with truth. If you have the type of personality that places a very high value on truth, honesty, integrity, and accuracy then the spin and bullshit that some people use to try to win arguments should annoy the hell out of you just like it does to me, even if the bullshitter is on the same side of the argument as you. Dishonesty and bullshit make my skin crawl which is why I try to avoid political conversations where truth and logic are a lower priority than winning an argument.

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I've come to two very different realisations this morning:

- I just go back from 7:30 am mass at the Carmelite Monastery. Due to their vow of silence, other than the recitations, no-one speaks except the Priest and the Mother Superior, when she does the First Reading. For a while now, I've kept thinking: the silence has a point.

- Listening to whiny Millennial and Gen Zeds boys, constantly trying to control the uncontrollable and dictate standards of acceptable discourse by demanding everyone conform to their pre-determined narcissistic script - like a thread can ever be 'hijacked' if the digression wasn't inherently more interesting than the stated topic - I suddenly understand why the girls of their own generations have kept choosing to fuck me, instead of them.

My fiance is 23. I stole what should have been the wife of a different generational cohort. From our conversations, it's because I'm alive to her in a way they're not: they're Prigs - particularly as a transparent substitute for lacking genuine power and control in their lives - and fussing over rules and regulations is Prig Crack.

Quote:Prig: a person who displays or demands of others pointlessly precise conformity, fussiness about trivialities, or exaggerated propriety, especially in a self-righteous or irritating manner.

If you can't go where the conversation goes, then you'll never master game.

There was a girl who lived up the other end of my street when I was a kid.
I've forgotten her name by now: I only remember her as 'Poor Thing', because that's how my mother always described her, (as in pathetic). Whenever she'd come down and play with the rest of us, she'd always demand that we play whatever game we were playing her way, which usually meant she was now a Beautiful Princess, but she was dead, so we'd all have to discover her body and then sit around and cry and talk about how much we all loved her, and how could she (probably meaning such beauty) just die?

As you can imagine, this would have lead to some bizarre crossover material, but she'd then go off to find somewhere to be discovered being dead and telling us to come and find her in a few minutes.

Each time this happened, the rest of us would then find somewhere else to be to either keep doing what we were doing, or do something else that she couldn't take part in, like riding our bikes across the paddocks.

Similarly, in my teenage years, a Gamma Friend I had would 'organise' something for everyone to do, then, when the group got together, we'd usually end up doing something else, and, due to his pissy reaction of us not choosing to do what he'd decided we should be doing, he'd end up self-segregating himself from us. He could never just go with the flow.

So, we'd turn up and he'd hold up a VHS Tape of 'The Goonies' and say we could all watch that and maybe get pizza later.

Meanwhile, my girlfriend and I would say "That's a kid's film." We were 16, and back in those days, a 16-year-old wouldn't have been caught dead watching a movie aimed at 12-year-olds. He wouldn't listen, he'd get all excited and start trying to do his thing, then the rest of us would discuss other topics, and end up deciding to do something else, which he would then refuse to take part in to spite us.

So, we'd decide to order pizza, sit up on the roof and look at the stars as we drank - man, I haven't done that for decades - and he'd stay down in the house the entire time, trying to convince himself that he was having fun and we weren't.

As I've mentioned before, Gamma was a rare behavioural defect back then, but that kind of Narcissism seems very prominent in the two younger generations.

I'm under no obligation to follow anyone's Priggish script. Game tip: don't ever follow hers.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
I have no idea whether the referee decisions can be manipulated as well as that. Currently the referees get instructions/tips from backoffice and they can occasionally refer to the VAR system (sometimes they don't).

Sure - it is possible to deliberately manipulate it, but whether this is being done to favor the multicultural countries vs the shitlords - this is difficult to say. FIFA is a globalist organization however and they do have their favorites for the win for sure.

None of us can actually prove or disprove Going Strong's view on FIFA and potential world cup manipulations. You can claim that he is wrong, but that does not make it 100% correct.

It's an interesting theory and who knows - he may be right or it's an overblown opinion. We all should know what the world propaganda intends to do.

Still - I understand when guys want to focus only on football without going into all of that, referee decisions used to be sometimes shitty in the past too - maybe there was sometimes manipulation for all we know. But we do know that usually one of the strongest team wins. And if you look at all the current groups that have completed their matches - the end results depict mostly the monetary valuation and differ only in those groups where the teams are more similar in market value.
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(06-26-2018 06:03 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 05:52 PM)thebassist Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 05:03 PM)Going strong Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 04:42 PM)thebassist Wrote:  The irony of it all is that, though GS implies that those criticizing him are secret leftists trying to suppress right-wing ideas, he is unintentionally the most subversive of leftist actors in the way that he devalues right-wing ideas by repeatedly trying to connect them to completely unrelated situations in the most ridiculously absurd ways.

Food for thought.

Also, can you tell us precisely which right-wing ideas I'd allegedly devalue?

I'll give you an example from none other than your previous post.

Going strong Wrote:Also, how can one pretend that the Fifa is not crooked and ultra-politicized (as in ultra-multikuDodgy), when one sees the penalty refused to Serbia (against Kosovar Swisses) and the one scandalously granted to Nigeria (against right-wing Argentina), just a few minutes ago... It's just plain obvious. The Fifa has even created a "video room" to grant belated penalties to its favored multiku teams.

> Valid Issue: FIFA is an organization acting in accordance with globalist goals and values
> Absurd, ridiculous connection devaluing valid issue: Penalty denied to Serbia and granted to Nigeria, obviously this is evidence of FIFA's collusion with 'mulitikuliti' agenda.

Myself and other members have called you out on your annoying, trollish behavior multiple times already, some much nicer than others, but it seems you are unable to get the message.

You forgot something: The penalties, granted or rejected by the Fifa, are now and for the first time decided (evaluated) behind closed doors, with mysterious Fifa employees watching replays and attributing, or not, penalties. So yes, I do contend that these Fifa employees are cheating while behind closed doors, and making political decisions on penalties.

Now, your second assertion: "other members have called you out on your annoying, trollish behavior multiple times already" Dodgy

What are you talking about? Which other members?

My PMs here on the forum contain zero message from members "denouncing my trollish behavior".

Anyway, I think that some posters here are just trying to shut down this thread, by multiplying the ad-nominem attacks, instead of debating in a civil manner.
So I guess the moderators will have little choice but closing the thread. Sad, many members would have liked to read interesting and calm discussions on the importance of politics. Instead we have personal attacks.

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All the europeans teams are advancing. Where is the manipulation? You make an accusation that has NO EVIDENCE.

The world cup is on tv everywhere. Prove it!

The only two bad calls ive seen are the nigaria penalty today and the missed foul in the box against Sweden in the first half.
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(06-26-2018 06:50 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  I've come to two very different realisations this morning:

- I just go back from 7:30 am mass at the Carmelite Monastery. Due to their vow of silence, other than the recitations, no-one speaks except the Priest and the Mother Superior, when she does the First Reading. For a while now, I've kept thinking: the silence has a point.

- Listening to whiny Millennial and Gen Zeds boys, constantly trying to control the uncontrollable and dictate standards of acceptable discourse by demanding everyone conform to their pre-determined narcissistic script - like a thread can ever be 'hijacked' if the digression wasn't inherently more interesting than the stated topic - I suddenly understand why the girls of their own generations have kept choosing to fuck me, instead of them.

My fiance is 23. I stole what should have been the wife of a different generational cohort. From our conversations, it's because I'm alive to her in a way they're not: they're Prigs - particularly as a transparent substitute for lacking genuine power and control in their lives - and fussing over rules and regulations is Prig Crack.

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^ Nah, SS, I wasn't writing that to brag, or to start talking about my catamaran polishing skills, or to be all 'top that muthafuckers'. It's just I'm trying to point out to the younger guys that the effeminate, priggish nature they're cultivating means masculine men can swoop in and steal the women of their generation, particularly as the biggest generational change I've noticed in the late Millennials and early Zeds women is they're more willing to look for much older men to find the masculine thrill they're craving. This is how my mate Bill banged a girl roughly 50 years younger than last year.

I remember saying to my girl: "Are you sure you don't want someone your own age?"

Her reply: "Have you seen the guys my age?"

She had a point.

We've a lot in common. We both believe in Family, and God. We both are musicians. We both nursed our mothers through cancer. Her father doesn't have a lot longer left. This has made her practical and compassionate, and she enjoys her femininity. As such, she has far more to offer than your average university student, or the utter trash of 40-something women in my own generation, since she has an emotional maturity they both lack, and her hard life hasn't made her bitter. This is a woman a man could have Homesteaded with.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
Want to mitigate the "politicizing"? First, get rid of the rep system because it is being gamed by "certain" individuals in this forum the same way white women virtue signal to gain status. Second, this site should be thought of as a think tank and not an echo chamber. Everyones thoughts should be considered and judged without bias
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(06-26-2018 10:11 PM)PharaohRa Wrote:  Want to mitigate the "politicizing"? First, get rid of the rep system because it is being gamed by "certain" individuals in this forum the same way white women virtue signal to gain status. Second, this site should be thought of as a think tank and not an echo chamber. Everyones thoughts should be considered and judged without bias

   

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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
The funny thing is that african and arab teams have complained (with reason) about several VAR decisions against them (like Morocco/Portugal, or Iran/Portugal).
On the other hand, Going Strong, Simeon Strangelight and nomadbrah complain about globalist stuff from FIFA.

Others complain usually against Uefalona, Uefadrid, Juventus and the referee etc.

The thing is: one it two comments about it is fine. The problem arises when a lot of fucking pages are made about it. And ruin the fun.

An example: I recently saw news about some Afrkaners in South Africa who have a land where there are only whites. Going with the political orientation of the forum, many of you would say it's fine. Their land, their choix, right? There is plenty of room in the country for blacks/indonesians etc. I guess that's what Going Strong would say...

Now take the black guy game thread. It's catered to game working FOR BLACK GUYS. Obviously anyone can participate. However, can you understand why sometimes there is annoyance when a guy comes gun blazing "I apply this specific game that works for white guys, you should try it"? No one denies the worth of his advice, just that he can post about it in a general thread of the game subforum. The black guy game thread is ONE thread out of thousands.No need to derail it.

Same for football threads. You have at most 3 long threads about football. One only has a (no politics here). The forum is fairly political, and thousands it threads are in the same subforum. Why is it so hard to imagine that there are football fans who share the same (apolitical) values, and want a (very very little place) of their own?
Worse: whenever someone disagrees with the general decline/fuck islam/jewish question /no care about Trump etc, there are always some senior members (a minority, thank God, but still) who instill one or two jabs about his character, some of them very agressive and often plainly wrong( I don't know, accusing them of being pro-murder of Non muslim people without even checking their posting history)?

Now compare this to the fifa soccer thread. One place where the English can make fun of their team (or Italia), One can cheer for his country etc, make bets...Even the "beef"between Rossi and the brits in the soccer thread is mostly fun, and quite apolitical. Sometimes it's annoying when in quantity, but mostly it's funny. It's precisely because it's NON POLITICAL.

Do you have to always come at a neighbourhood garden party and want everyone to discuss about politics?is your neighbour a SJW/traitor/cuck/leftist/insert your favourite RVFer slang if he sits in a corner with people and wants to talk about grass/musculation/cooking/whatever?

If you understand, then please leave your political views out of the world cup thread. If that makes us SJW, then please give us our "safe space". You have 99.9% of the forum to express yourself about it.

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(06-26-2018 05:52 PM)thebassist Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 05:03 PM)Going strong Wrote:  Also, can you tell us precisely which right-wing ideas I'd allegedly devalue?

(...)

> Valid Issue: FIFA is an organization acting in accordance with globalist goals and values
> Absurd, ridiculous connection devaluing valid issue: Penalty denied to Serbia and granted to Nigeria, obviously this is evidence of FIFA's collusion with 'multikulti' agenda.

By the way, you have not answered my question. Which "right-wing value" am I "devaluating", precisely?

You talked above of a minor "issue" with Fifa, but prior to that you were talking about important "values", and this is not the same meaning or importance. So, to which right-wing values were you referring to, that I'm supposedly devaluating?

In any case, most members who post here about how they are "apolitical" Dodgy, well, they just help me make my point. As I don't believe they are apolitical. They're just in favor of no-change to society, meaning they are at ease with the current crooked Establishment.

For nobody in this time and age is apolitical. It just does not exist, except maybe some Buddhist monk hidden in a tropical jungle somewhere, meditating (but then he's probably meditating on how to fuck the Rohyngas).

Each time I meet someone claiming to be apolitical, he turns out quite soon to be a Leftist or a similar thing (Bakuninist, nihilist, punk). Only pretty women can be more or less apolitical, but any normal man will have strong political opinions. And the most interesting part of this forum (with the travel section on pussy paradises), are these men writing here about these strong (political) opinions. The rest, Ponzi-scheme cryptos and post-Tinder game, bring very little noticeable or new.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
I'd just love to know if our resident politics obsessives behave like this in real life?
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(06-27-2018 01:53 AM)mikado Wrote:  If you understand, then please leave your political views out of the world cup thread. If that makes us SJW, then please give us our "safe space". You have 99.9% of the forum to express yourself about it.

Today everything is political. You cannot hide. If you think the announcers, the sportscasters, the FIFA bureaucrats are not pushing political agendas on you at every possible opportunity then you are a complete fool.

I really like the Black Guy game thread. There is some amazing advice in there that frankly applies to everyone. When someone tried to start a White Guy game thread it was shit on heavily. I think that's stupid, because being Caucasian doesn't make you some kind of fucking default human being. European descended guys need to calibrate their game just as much... perhaps even more that other ethnicities. However, we won't talk about it on this forum.

Anyway... politics is everywhere. Just ignore posts you don't agree with and move on. How fucking hard is that?
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
Plenty of us in opposition to you, Going Strong, in this thread are not apolitical. We have strong political opinions, some are very involved in it e.g Teedub. I voted for a very conservative party in our last election in Australia, will continue to do so and am considering joining one of them (Australian politics is a mess now, lots of parties popping up). On top of that, I trigger people down here daily with my support for President Trump. I'm far from apolitical, just like others here who are also calling you out on your BS.

What we oppose to is not you being political or right-winged. We oppose to you (and your mates) being completely autistic and stinking up every corner of this forum with your talking points even when there is bugger all relevance. You are acting just like the SJWs I run into in my daily life, which I love to piss off. They bring up their politics where I play sport, lift weights, go to a social dance or sit down for a meal. If by now you still can't see that you're like that, then you need to seriously get a life.

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(06-27-2018 02:37 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 01:53 AM)mikado Wrote:  If you understand, then please leave your political views out of the world cup thread. If that makes us SJW, then please give us our "safe space". You have 99.9% of the forum to express yourself about it.

Today everything is political. You cannot hide. If you think the announcers, the sportscasters, the FIFA bureaucrats are not pushing political agendas on you at every possible opportunity then you are a complete fool.

Anyway... politics is everywhere. Just ignore posts you don't agree with and move on. How fucking hard is that?

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Exactly. Everything around us in the modern world is extremely political. And usually extremely left-wing and PC. Every time you switch on the TV, being for movies or news or even marketing products and consumerism, you're getting propaganda down your throat.

Every time your kids go to school, they are getting politics and little else. Each time you watch football or soccer game with kneeling dudes or multiku teams, you are submitted to politics. Each time you chose a country to travel to, your choices are impacted even more by politics (which determine the state of the country) than by the available-pussy there.

One example: You think of getting the D wet in the Phils? So as not to emulate our dear Dragan in Serbia? Great, but, suddenly politics impact you. For now it's my man (I'm DDS) right-wing Duterte in charge of the Phils, and smoking and drugs are prohibited, and suddenly you are either thrilled or afraid, you decide to go or you decide not to go. You see, politics impact you even when you think about getting pussy.
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(06-27-2018 01:53 AM)mikado Wrote:  If you understand, then please leave your political views out of the world cup thread. If that makes us SJW, then please give us our "safe space". You have 99.9% of the forum to express yourself about it.

Today everything is political. You cannot hide. If you think the announcers, the sportscasters, the FIFA bureaucrats are not pushing political agendas on you at every possible opportunity then you are a complete fool.

I really like the Black Guy game thread. There is some amazing advice in there that frankly applies to everyone. When someone tried to start a White Guy game thread it was shit on heavily. I think that's stupid, because being Caucasian doesn't make you some kind of fucking default human being. European descended guys need to calibrate their game just as much... perhaps even more that other ethnicities. However, we won't talk about it on this forum.

Anyway... politics is everywhere. Just ignore posts you don't agree with and move on. How fucking hard is that?


The problem is not that we complain about the forum talking mostly politics.

The problem is people HIJACKING non political threads.

For the white guy game thread: you have plenty of them, like those about gaming in Philippines (mostly white guys). The thread "white guy game" does not exist; but several discussions about white god factor have been held.

Again:the problem is the HIJACKING.

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(06-27-2018 02:47 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  You are acting just like the SJWs I run into in my daily life, which I love to piss off. They bring up their politics where I play sport, lift weights, go to a social dance or sit down for a meal. If by now you still can't see that you're like that, then you need to seriously get a life.

Then, to counter these vocal SJWs, you go... silent?

Myself, I advise, in order to counter SJWs, to "bring up OUR (right-wing) politics" each time they "bring up their (degenerate leftist) politics".

You seem to favor abandoning the field to them, by being discreet and silent and appearing apolitical and above all this. I on the other hand, recommend saturating the field with (right-wing) politics, just as much as they do with their "Liberalism".

I mean, they (socialists) bother you when you play sport, lift weights, go to a social dance or sit down for a meal ? Ok, so I advise to bother them when they play sport, lift weights, go to a social dance or sit down for a meal.
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Completely missing the point once again.

I wasn't talking about how I deal with them (you're just making a lot of assumptions). I was comparing you to them. You are exactly like the SJWs. If I were like you guys with your political obsessions, I could make a very convincing case that you are controlled oppositions to make right-wing people look bad.

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(06-27-2018 02:35 AM)Saweeep Wrote:  I'd just love to know if our resident politics obsessives behave like this in real life?

I worked for the Democratic party for 10 fucking years. 10 years! I knocked on doors and sat in campaign headquarters on election nights. I am one of those schmucks who alternately counted ballots and watched other people count ballots until 2am. I've helped recruit candidates and helped run campaigns.

For the last 10 years... I've done nothing in politics except vote. Sometimes I will explain to some poor blue pilled sap how completely fucking evil the Democratic party is... and sometimes how I know. That is a rare occasion, because frankly expressing an anti-liberal opinion where I live is not socially acceptable.

Sometimes I share my insight and opinions here in this forum. Why? Because safe places to express the truth are rapidly dwindling.

(06-27-2018 02:49 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Clap
Exactly. Everything around us in the modern world is extremely political. And usually extremely left-wing and PC. Every time you switch on the TV, being for movies or news or even marketing products and consumerism, you're getting propaganda down your throat.
Every time your kids go to school, they are getting politics and little else. Each time you watch football or soccer game with kneeling dudes or multiku teams, you are submitted to politics. Each time you chose a country to travel to, your choices are impacted even more by politics (which determine the state of the country) than by the available-pussy there.

Anyone who is Ok with ESPN injecting politics into everything but offended by an RFV member doing the same is a hypocrite.

I will let you in on a little secret. Hypocrisy always hides an agenda.
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If you have a married blue pill friends couple who invite you to eat/drink, do you suddenly start talking about divorce rape during the dinner?


Or imagine a bunch of kids on a field. On the big pitch, 22 of them play "regular" soccer (group A). On a smaller pitch, 6-8 of them have a version where they play with their hands (group B). One of the 22 goes to them and tells them you are not supposed to play with hands: group B says it's OK, we prefer this because it's more fun to us.
Now if group A starts pestering group B, saying "you HAVE TO play like us", do you think it's OK? Isn't it ridiculous of them to say "Today, EVERYONE has to choose a unique version of ball game, there is no way you can just focus on having fun regardless of the way you play soccer"?

Another example: we all like to make fun about Planet Fitness. It is totally OK to think they suck. However is it alright to go there and scream/drop the weights ON PURPOSE, while shouting "this place sucks!!!"?

If people want to go there to "feel safe", let them be. Do we have to be asses and tell them unsollicited "your gym sucks"?
(You can replace this with crossfit)

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(06-27-2018 03:06 AM)StrikeBack Wrote:  I wasn't talking about how I deal with them (you're just making a lot of assumptions). I was comparing you to them. You are exactly like the SJWs. If I were like you guys with your political obsessions, I could make a very convincing case that you are controlled oppositions to make right-wing people look bad.

So I am making "lots of assumption" and one second later, you make the (wild) assumption that I am a secret controlled Leftist.

I wasn't talking about how I deal with them: but please do. Enlighten us. How do you deal with SJWs, as you don't like talking about politics? You just let them be?

I could make a very convincing case: please do, by all means. Make your very convincingDodgy case as to how I am a closet leftist posing as a right-winger who trashes Leftism in order to foster Leftism while secretly longing for nihilism.
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(06-27-2018 02:53 AM)mikado Wrote:  The problem is not that we complain about the forum talking mostly politics.
The problem is people HIJACKING non political threads.
For the white guy game thread: you have plenty of them, like those about gaming in Philippines (mostly white guys). The thread "white guy game" does not exist; but several discussions about white god factor have been held.
Again:the problem is the HIJACKING.

Those guys post their political opinions looking for a reaction. Either you agree or disagree, I don't think they care which. Don't give them the reaction and they go away. Problem solved.

Gaming in the Phillipines is not a white guy thread! Jesus... as I said before white isn't some default human setting. Unless the thread specifically says it's for white guys... then its open for everything. The biggest ballers I've ever met in the Philippines were Korean guys. Maybe there is a Korean God Factor???

White God Factor discussions are a joke. I read one of them some time back and it has zero application to game. The idea that being light skinned will get you laid by itself is ridiculous and runs counter to everything we know about women.

It's like believing there is a Black God Factor at work in Minnesota. Sure it's easy as fuck for a lot of black guys to get laid there... but those are not Steve Urkel looking dudes. They fit the stereotypes the girls want... athletes and gangsters.
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(06-26-2018 09:59 PM)AnonymousBosch Wrote:  ^ Nah, SS, I wasn't writing that to brag, or to start talking about my catamaran polishing skills, or to be all 'top that muthafuckers'. It's just I'm trying to point out to the younger guys that the effeminate, priggish nature they're cultivating means masculine men can swoop in and steal the women of their generation, particularly as the biggest generational change I've noticed in the late Millennials and early Zeds women is they're more willing to look for much older men to find the masculine thrill they're craving. This is how my mate Bill banged a girl roughly 50 years younger than last year.

I remember saying to my girl: "Are you sure you don't want someone your own age?"

Her reply: "Have you seen the guys my age?"

She had a point.

We've a lot in common. We both believe in Family, and God. We both are musicians. We both nursed our mothers through cancer. Her father doesn't have a lot longer left. This has made her practical and compassionate, and she enjoys her femininity. As such, she has far more to offer than your average university student, or the utter trash of 40-something women in my own generation, since she has an emotional maturity they both lack, and her hard life hasn't made her bitter. This is a woman a man could have Homesteaded with.

I get it - I assume you are telling the truth and are a good-looking in-shape guy with Game and Sigma mentality in his end 40s? You could be end 50s in that metric and still fine a cute 20yo girl who finds you attractive and likes being with you.

That was just a happy-high-five.

I personally met immature obnoxious 45yo women and super-mature highly spiritual super-intelligent and hot 19yo girls. One 19yo was a student of a highly reputed theatrical college - despite her 8-9 looks she had a deep emotional depth and introspection that was amazing. Sure - it was a byproduct of her high intelligence, but we all know that this is not always the case.

I have a Blue Pill buddy who is 40 and was absolutely convinced that a woman needs to be 30+ in order for him to "have something to talk about". We always made fun of him, because not only are those women less attractive, but ageing does not make them more interesting only because they can talk about their boring corporate jobs. The few highly intelligent girls with depth are reading Tolstoy and listening to Brahms at age 19 already and the ones who don't, won't start doing it at age 30. The same goes for spirituality/religiousness if you value that - a girl does not have to become 40 to suddenly start being interested in that.

I once met a super cute 23yo girl in a club who was open to me. I already thought about the fun we might have tonight as she was with 2 of her slutty appearing girlfriends. But turned out that she had a Christian awakening recently and has a fiance she met in bible camp 6 months ago. You could sense that she was deeply into that telling me about God, then her boyfriend etc. While I was happy for her, I knew that I would not get laid with her tonight. On the other hand - it was this inner happiness that drew me to her far more than to her jaded friends.

Almost all my real girlfriends and relationships were girls who were God seekers/highly spiritual.
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(06-27-2018 02:34 AM)Going strong Wrote:  So, to which right-wing values were you referring to, that I'm supposedly devaluating?

Note that I said right-wing ideas, not values.

As I have stated you have shown a repeated tendency to inject the issues which so obviously plague your mind into everything that you come across, no matter the relevance to the topic at hand.

It's easy to find examples in just the previous two threads in which our paths crossed.

Example 1:

(05-29-2018 09:18 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Funny how it's okay, and encouraged by MSM, to openly hate on Sergio Ramos, who's probably been the best defender of the world (with Godin) during this last decade.
And of course it's OK to hate on Ramos, because after all, he's White, and a Conservative Spaniard on top of that: so, no mercy for the dude! But if Ramos were Black, you can bet nobody would dare point a finger at him, either on this thread or in MSM.

>Valid issue worthy of discussion: Media bias against whites and conservatives
> Absurd, ridiculous connection devaluing valid issue: any forum member daring to criticize a cunt of a football player who happens to be white is only doing it because 'he's white, and a conservative Spaniard on top of that', and would never dare criticize a black player with the same attributes.

Your most shameful behavior to date was in a different thread, where, amongst other accusations you essentially described a member's choice to bring his (educated, upper-middle class) African wife legally to his own country as being somehow comparable to the flood of illegal African migrants to Europe. Beyond the disgraceful nature of describing another forum member's wife as some impoverished African like those in the boats on the shores of Italy, you once again devalue a right-wing issue (illegal immigration) with your utter buffoonery that only allows you to see everything in the world as being connected in every way to the issues that so plague your mind.

Including this thread, where you conflate people's annoyance with your autistic behavior as being part of some broader attack against right-wing thought, that is now three consecutive threads where you have repeatedly demonstrated the same annoying, disruptive pattern of behavior.

At this point I'm done participating in this thread. It has become more than obvious that you do not have the social awareness to understand why your behavior is non-productive, abrasive, and obnoxious, so it is a waste of time for me to participate further, beyond letting other members know that they are far from the only ones who have noticed your obnoxious patterns of behavior.

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