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(06-27-2018 03:18 AM)EndsExpect Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 02:53 AM)mikado Wrote:  The problem is not that we complain about the forum talking mostly politics.
The problem is people HIJACKING non political threads.
For the white guy game thread: you have plenty of them, like those about gaming in Philippines (mostly white guys). The thread "white guy game" does not exist; but several discussions about white god factor have been held.
Again:the problem is the HIJACKING.

Those guys post their political opinions looking for a reaction. Either you agree or disagree, I don't think they care which. Don't give them the reaction and they go away. Problem solved.

When you have in a thread several (long posts) about race/politics/religion when you came not looking for them, it becomes very annoying. It's not like I don't want to read Going Strong /Simeon_Strangelight, and put them on ignore list. If I want to look at their opinion, I have literally dozens of thread in the politics forum. I even repped Going Strong (will check if I did it with Z.).


Gaming in the Phillipines is not a white guy thread! Jesus... as I said before white isn't some default human setting. Unless the thread specifically says it's for white guys... then its open for everything. The biggest ballers I've ever met in the Philippines were Korean guys. Maybe there is a Korean God Factor???

White God Factor discussions are a joke. I read one of them some time back and it has zero application to game. The idea that being light skinned will get you laid by itself is ridiculous and runs counter to everything we know about women.

It's like believing there is a Black God Factor at work in Minnesota. Sure it's easy as fuck for a lot of black guys to get laid there... but those are not Steve Urkel looking dudes. They fit the stereotypes the girls want... athletes and gangsters.

The fact that YOU know some korean big ballers does not mean koreans have a korean god factor. The white god factor has been already documented ad nauseam here. Hell, whenever someone here posts about not meeting quality western women, he is always advised to search in Asia.
I don't want to derail the thread, so you can PM me if you want to talk about it.

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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
The explanation is much simpler than some secret underground left wing movement. The constant politics is simply very boring. It has its place and that's fine, but it is not everywhere and in all things, that's simply false. For a great many of us, we just want to shoot the shit about the football or another sport, or see some tits, or talk about some food, or whatever it may be, and enjoy the thing for itself, free from all the drama that is created when you read politics into an area of life it doesn't much belong in. I really like football, I have a team that I follow religiously, and I have so many good, random conversations with friends and strangers alike that just involve talking about the game, players' performance, why their manager isn't as good as mine, etc etc.

The reason the constant political chatter is so terribly boring is that it is that it is constantly being read into areas where it doesn't belong, or is otherwise incidental. Whether or not such-and-such a tournament is being used to advance some political propaganda is secondary (or not even) for the true fan to the simple, unadulterated enjoyment of the game itself. The idea that politics is everywhere and in all things is a nonsense, and it is one of the worst aspects of our current times that whingers on the left and right force it into all sorts of situations where it doesn't belong. Politics is a narrow domain. When I talk to friends or strangers politics is almost never a natural part of the conversation. On the rare occasion it is discussed, it rapidly wears thin. I think many are understandably very bored of seeing a flowing conversation about football (or anything else) interrupted by reductive, repetitive political posts that are irrelevant to the discussion of the actual game. Sometimes guys just want to talk about how England are going to win the World Cup, and yank each others chains good natured-ly about this or that team, player or manager.

There is nothing especially masculine, red-pill, or 'woke' about being a bore.
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Going on about "white god factor" is close to game denial and eerily close to the incel term about the same thing, which is something like "just be white". I think a lot, if not the majority of the forum white guys, find this kind of stereotype to be annoying, but generally just let it slide.

As Jordan Peterson would say, clean your own room first, which means, don't go into every travel thread bringing your incredible trite and outplayed "wah wah whites have it so good and it's not fair" or start "best country for half-afghan guys with curly hair" thread number 100.
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(06-27-2018 03:24 AM)thebassist Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 02:34 AM)Going strong Wrote:  So, to which right-wing values were you referring to, that I'm supposedly devaluating?

Note that I said right-wing ideas, not values.(...)

Your most shameful behavior to date was in a different thread, where, amongst other accusations you essentially described a member's choice to bring his (educated, upper-middle class) African wife legally to his own country as being somehow comparable to the flood of illegal African migrants to Europe. Beyond the disgraceful nature of describing another forum member's wife as some impoverished African like those in the boats on the shores of Italy, you once again devalue a right-wing issue (illegal immigration) with your utter buffoonery (...)

At this point I'm done participating in this thread. It has become more than obvious that you do not have the social awareness to understand why your behavior is non-productive, abrasive, and obnoxious, so it is a waste of time for me to participate further, beyond letting other members know that they are far from the only ones who have noticed your obnoxious patterns of behavior.

In the case you are referring to, you forgot a little detail Dodgy. The "upper-middle class" African wife "from wealthy cattle-owner family", of this unnamed member, did turn out to actually be an impoverished lady, as I had guessed.
The unnamed member admitted this fact (to the extent that he admitted sending money to this African family, like a few hundred euros or something). So maybe I was, and I'm quoting, "dark and heartless" to open his eyes, but, I was telling him the truth, warning him. I of course got no thank you, but it's okay.

Now, you are saying that I do not have social awareness. But I am the one meeting numerous forum members in real life, in social settings, while you apparently got your rep points from (very good, actually, much respect to you) online advice, about crypto stuff. So before accusing other members of not having social skills, why don't you demonstrate yours by actually meeting forum members, at Monte-Carlo casino or wherever social awareness is at its peak?

Now to H1N1:

Quoting you: "politics is almost never a natural part of the conversation. On the rare occasion it is discussed, it rapidly wears thin... a flowing conversation about football ".

So, did I understand you well? When you talk about the most important and interesting thing in the world (just behind the hunt for quality pussy), politics, "it rapidly wears thin". Undecided But, you can talk hours about a rather dumb (though temporarily entertaining) thing called football? I can't comprehend that. I know a lot about football, but can't talk about it more than twenty minutes, tops. How can you consider football more interesting and worth discussing, than politics?
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(06-27-2018 05:46 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 03:24 AM)thebassist Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 02:34 AM)Going strong Wrote:  So, to which right-wing values were you referring to, that I'm supposedly devaluating?

Note that I said right-wing ideas, not values.(...)

Your most shameful behavior to date was in a different thread, where, amongst other accusations you essentially described a member's choice to bring his (educated, upper-middle class) African wife legally to his own country as being somehow comparable to the flood of illegal African migrants to Europe. Beyond the disgraceful nature of describing another forum member's wife as some impoverished African like those in the boats on the shores of Italy, you once again devalue a right-wing issue (illegal immigration) with your utter buffoonery (...)

In the case you are referring to, you forgot a little detail Dodgy. The "upper-middle class" African wife "from wealthy cattle-owner family", of this unnamed member, did turn out to actually be an impoverished lady, as I had guessed.

Going Strong, you keep repeating that bit about "wealthy cattle owners", but it was never said there. You pulled it out of your ass. Here is the actual quote:

Quote:Her family is Kenyan middle class, so they're poorer than me and struggle with loans of their own... [sic] ... they are not in poverty. They have a lot of things to struggle with, but all of their children are in college or school and have what they need to succeed. She herself has a good business degree and has already worked at decent international companies and earned solid money.

Could you please guide me through the thought process where the sentence above somehow turns into "wealthy cattle owners"?

Also, you claimed that such a person is "impoverished", yet simultaneously claim that this same person "must be capable of coming up with tens of thousands of dollars whenever needed". So again be so kind to elaborate - are they "impoverished" or not?

Either way, your socially-inept aggressiveness combined with an utter lack of common sense regarding race, wealth, immigration, travel and many other topics will, as thebassist said, inevitably turn anyone speaking to you away from right-wing values.

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(06-27-2018 05:46 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Now to H1N1:

Quoting you: "politics is almost never a natural part of the conversation. On the rare occasion it is discussed, it rapidly wears thin... a flowing conversation about football ".

So, did I understand you well? When you talk about the most important and interesting thing in the world (just behind the hunt for quality pussy), politics, "it rapidly wears thin". Undecided But, you can talk hours about a rather dumb (though temporarily entertaining) thing called football? I can't comprehend that. I know a lot about football, but can't talk about it more than twenty minutes, tops. How can you consider football more interesting and worth discussing, than politics?


There's not a great deal to say in response to this, because I think it highlights a fundamental difference in our relation to the world around us. I accept that you probably 'can't comprehend' the point I am making. I think you talk in terms of politics, but what you really mean is ideology, and your ideology is the prism through which you view the world. I think that is reductive, and its flavour taints everything that one might otherwise enjoy in its purity.

You say that politics is the most important thing in the world, and to you it may be, because it seems to me that it is the lense through which you interpret and understand all things. I very much hope (and believe) that the same is not true of me, and this puts us on wholly divergent paths.

I can talk *to* someone about football, and rib them, and hear them talk with passion about their team, and love every second of it for what it is. Perhaps then the person I'm talking to and I will part ways, or perhaps that conversation will have turned naturally into a conversation about their family (very often builders etc will start telling me about their little boy they take to the match religiously each weekend, for example) or something else that comes from the heart of life - an area politics doesn't simply doesn't touch, except to do harm.

I understand that for you this may not be the case, or provide the same source of pleasure, or be important. For me, these kinds of moments are of vital importance. They nourish my soul, they are some of the most essential moments in my day to day life, and I find them to be deeply significant even if the topic is seemingly mundane - eg football.
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(06-27-2018 06:23 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 05:46 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Now to H1N1:

Quoting you: "politics is almost never a natural part of the conversation. On the rare occasion it is discussed, it rapidly wears thin... a flowing conversation about football ".

So, did I understand you well? When you talk about the most important and interesting thing in the world (just behind the hunt for quality pussy), politics, "it rapidly wears thin". Undecided But, you can talk hours about a rather dumb (though temporarily entertaining) thing called football? I can't comprehend that. I know a lot about football, but can't talk about it more than twenty minutes, tops. How can you consider football more interesting and worth discussing, than politics?


There's not a great deal to say in response to this, because I think it highlights a fundamental difference in our relation to the world around us. I accept that you probably 'can't comprehend' the point I am making. I think you talk in terms of politics, but what you really mean is ideology, and your ideology is the prism through which you view the world. I think that is reductive, and its flavour taints everything that one might otherwise enjoy in its purity.

You say that politics is the most important thing in the world, and to you it may be, because it seems to me that it is the lense through which you interpret and understand all things. I very much hope (and believe) that the same is not true of me, and this puts us on wholly divergent paths.

I can talk *to* someone about football, and rib them, and hear them talk with passion about their team, and love every second of it for what it is. Perhaps then the person I'm talking to and I will part ways, or perhaps that conversation will have turned naturally into a conversation about their family (very often builders etc will start telling me about their little boy they take to the match religiously each weekend, for example) or something else that comes from the heart of life - an area politics doesn't simply doesn't touch, except to do harm.

I understand that for you this may not be the case, or provide the same source of pleasure, or be important. For me, these kinds of moments are of vital importance. They nourish my soul, they are some of the most essential moments in my day to day life, and I find them to be deeply significant even if the topic is seemingly mundane - eg football.

At long last, a post that do not contain personal insults. I guess it had to come from a British gentleman like you, H1N1, and much obliged my dear chap.

But nevertheless: you are right on some things, but terribly wrong on other things. Especially, if you think that "bringing your little boy to the football stadium, religiously each week" is "untouched by politics"...

If you bring your children, nowadays, to a football stadium in the UK, each week, you are submitting them to a very powerful, politically-charged experience. You impose and force on them the glorification of multiku Confused and easy-money. I mean, the glorification of incredibly vast sums of money earned through little effort Dodgy.

Plus, modern football in the UK, is glorification of uneducated dudes wasting one Ferrari each week (footballers always wreck their Ferraris), because they swim in (tens of) millions but have no brain and no decency (and shady citizenship status, often). Ask yourself: are modern footballers the role models you want to give your children?

Proof again that politics are everywhere, especially in the stadiums.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
^^Is multiku short for multi cultural?

And I don't see athletes being high paid as political, they are in many countries regardless of that countries political leanings. . . I see it as simply capitalism in action. And I think while some aren't role models, others are.

Anyway I think you also kind of made his point with that response.
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(06-27-2018 06:31 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 06:23 AM)H1N1 Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 05:46 AM)Going strong Wrote:  Now to H1N1:

Quoting you: "politics is almost never a natural part of the conversation. On the rare occasion it is discussed, it rapidly wears thin... a flowing conversation about football ".

So, did I understand you well? When you talk about the most important and interesting thing in the world (just behind the hunt for quality pussy), politics, "it rapidly wears thin". Undecided But, you can talk hours about a rather dumb (though temporarily entertaining) thing called football? I can't comprehend that. I know a lot about football, but can't talk about it more than twenty minutes, tops. How can you consider football more interesting and worth discussing, than politics?


There's not a great deal to say in response to this, because I think it highlights a fundamental difference in our relation to the world around us. I accept that you probably 'can't comprehend' the point I am making. I think you talk in terms of politics, but what you really mean is ideology, and your ideology is the prism through which you view the world. I think that is reductive, and its flavour taints everything that one might otherwise enjoy in its purity.

You say that politics is the most important thing in the world, and to you it may be, because it seems to me that it is the lense through which you interpret and understand all things. I very much hope (and believe) that the same is not true of me, and this puts us on wholly divergent paths.

I can talk *to* someone about football, and rib them, and hear them talk with passion about their team, and love every second of it for what it is. Perhaps then the person I'm talking to and I will part ways, or perhaps that conversation will have turned naturally into a conversation about their family (very often builders etc will start telling me about their little boy they take to the match religiously each weekend, for example) or something else that comes from the heart of life - an area politics doesn't simply doesn't touch, except to do harm.

I understand that for you this may not be the case, or provide the same source of pleasure, or be important. For me, these kinds of moments are of vital importance. They nourish my soul, they are some of the most essential moments in my day to day life, and I find them to be deeply significant even if the topic is seemingly mundane - eg football.

At long last, a post that do not contain personal insults. I guess it had to come from a British gentleman like you, H1N1, and much obliged my dear chap.

But nevertheless: you are right on some things, but terribly wrong on other things. Especially, if you think that "bringing your little boy to the football stadium, religiously each week" is "untouched by politics"...

If you bring your children, nowadays, to a football stadium in the UK, each week, you are submitting them to a very powerful, politically-charged experience. You impose and force on them the glorification of multiku Confused and easy-money. I mean, the glorification of incredibly vast sums of money earned through little effort Dodgy.

Plus, modern football in the UK, is glorification of uneducated dudes wasting one Ferrari each week (footballers always wreck their Ferraris), because they swim in (tens of) millions but have no brain and no decency (and shady citizenship status, often). Ask yourself: are modern footballers the role models you want to give your children?

Proof again that politics are everywhere, especially in the stadiums.

I'm afraid that the only thing you prove is the assertion I made that politics is the lense through which you interpret the world.

The real meat of the experience is in the father and son's shared moments, and shared passions, both between them and with fellow supporters; in the way a proud father can relay the experience to a stranger and feel closer to him for it; in the way it can provide animated and passionate conversation for days following the game, and when the conversation is exhausted, there is the next game to discuss and anticipate, then dissect again after. Politics doesn't touch *this* simple intimacy.

The politics you speak of ought only to be a little gristle on the otherwise pristine and juicy sirloin of life. I think that because your meat comes with a little gristle, the whole meal is ruined for you. You are fixated on the gristle, small bite though it is, and this ruins the whole flavour and experience of something that is otherwise tender and superbly nourishing. Personally, whilst not deliberate, I think this is an ungrateful and deadening position to hold.
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Once again I think Going Strong and others on this thread are missing something.

It is fine to talk about politics, in football or anywhere else.

The point is that when a thread is speifically stated to be apolitical, and people don't respect that.

Why do you need to interject your political opinion on every kind of thread?

You are like the guy who during the match will talk about race/color/religion of the guy who just missed a shot, and try to link it to his game.

YOU think politics in football is important. But you have no business imposing your opinion when asked not to. The same way you are wrong to impose red pill on somebody who is just not interested.
People can bond over a lot of stuff that have nothing To be political. We are not asking for a safe space. We just want a welcome break sometimes.

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(06-26-2018 06:15 PM)Kona Wrote:  How about if you are gonna make a political post in the soccer thread you only can type with your feet or forehead?

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If it requires 'little effort' to earn millions of dollars playing football, why don't you try it going strong?

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(06-27-2018 07:47 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:15 PM)Kona Wrote:  How about if you are gonna make a political post in the soccer thread you only can type with your feet or forehead?

Aloha!

I want this to be a forum rule!
THANKS KONA!

But, I always type with my forehead! You mean... there are other ways to type?

(Below, one of the most famous comedy TV sketches of French TV history - or is it a rare sighting of GS posting on soccer threads - see from one minute 40?)





And by the way, note that this comedy group ("Les Inconnus") ended up being... very political, when they ultimately defied the Establishment (which was not amused) with a sketch ("Les Rapetout") about the Taxes and IRS.

(06-27-2018 08:01 AM)RedPillUK Wrote:  If it requires 'little effort' to earn millions of dollars playing football, why don't you try it going strong?

I did. But I play football like David Beckham's left foot. So I turned to tennis, but I played like a footballer (and not Michael Stich, sadly). Thus started my political career, you've guessed it.

But anyway, I still harbor hopes of a successful sport career. I have contacted NTP and Nola, the famous nautical hydra Dodgy of the forum, to enter the race for the America's Cup. On a catamaran, naturally, as per Anonymous Bosch request.

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(06-27-2018 08:09 AM)Going strong Wrote:  
(06-27-2018 07:47 AM)kuqezi Wrote:  
(06-26-2018 06:15 PM)Kona Wrote:  How about if you are gonna make a political post in the soccer thread you only can type with your feet or forehead?

Aloha!

I want this to be a forum rule!
THANKS KONA!

But, I always type with my forehead! You mean... there are other ways to type?

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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
Anyone who views life exclusively through the political prism and holds it as the apex of truth is obviously missing out on a large part of life. The political is, in a way, simply a symptom of the spiritual, which is the deepest prism one can look through since every single human action depends on the level of consciousness that governs it. How one relates to his or her identity/ego is the real measure of civility, morality and truth.

I find that most people who preach on either side of the political claim to know the absolute truth, which is always something that makes me chuckle. Truth is merely one's relationship to objective reality, which is in itself unattainable - to a certain degree. We can of course observe through the prism of science and that would be probably the closest to physical reality, but again it is an incomplete measure of things since there is too much of it that we simply cannot explain.

Holding the political dogma as sacrosaint usually is the weapon of the person who does not undergo the deep and often painful process of Self-inquiry, thereby identifying with external events rather than observing the root patterns that make one have this belief in the first place.

Talking shit about any subject of one's personal preference is a way to relate simply as human beings, without the pretention of knowing the truth.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
Going Strong, you have too much time on your hands with threads like these. And you're missing the point as usual.

You know, most people just silently fade away. A lot of the old school posters are inactive or gone forever because of the excessive tilt toward politics. This used to be a forum about game, travel, and self-improvement but even those topics now get overshadowed by some of the characters (with little real life experience) who somehow find the time to post 5+ times a day about the Jewz and "how the globalists ruined mah life". I'll always be grateful to Roosh for making this community. I've made some great friends in real life through it. But I accept that times have changed. The real communication and value sharing now happens off the forum.

P.S. I was for Trump and for Brexit myself so don't accuse me or being a liberal.

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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
Jesus, thank you for this thread, I'm glad I'm not the only one getting tired of this nonsense.

To me it's really no different than someone approaching you on the street to sell you crap in Asia, or that friend who recently shelled out $500 to join a pyramid scheme who brings it up at every possible moment. Er not a pyramid, a "triangle". Learned that from him.

When someone repeatedly interjects something into a conversation where it has no fucking place, it's simply put to further an agenda. It could be I want to sell you something. It could be a want to let you know I just ran a marathon for the ego boost, or maybe it's some wife who mentions with the subtlety of a hand grenade that her husband's a doctor and wants to get society points.

When I just want to watch a soccer game with friends, I just as much don't want to hear about how running's a better work out and how she just ran a marathon and how it was hard but worth it and she's dong another one in 3 weeks. And I support running. Similarly, I don't want to hear about the "great globalist jew penalty shot" conspiracy and how it's an offshoot of the Rothschilds but bit coin will save the day and you should buy lots because I'm putting half my pay in and convinced my parents and you can't lose. I don't fucking care, and I'm certainly not going to do anything about it because you're sitting there talking at me. It isn't a conversation to these people. They just need a target to bloviate *at* to either try and sell something or further an agenda, and unfortunately you have the bad luck to be in the hot seat.

After a handful of times I start going to great lengths to avoid being around these people.
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There's no convincing these guys. No point trying. The only way this will be solved is with bans. But bans won't happen, because Roosh doesn't want them to. Ultimately the decision was made to tilt this board towards politics, and it will stay that way until Roosh thinks otherwise.

The real deal guys rarely post on this forum anymore, but are still contactable. So in that sense, the corpse is still warm, but who knows for how much longer.

See you in the thread about how satanists control the world cup.
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(06-27-2018 09:41 AM)Seadog Wrote:  Similarly, I don't want to hear about the "great globalist jew penalty shot" conspiracy and how it's an offshoot of the Rothschilds but bit coin will save the day and you should buy lots because I'm putting half my pay in and convinced my parents and you can't lose. I don't fucking care

So Ponzi-scheme bitcoin is an offshoot of the Rothschilds? I knew it! It had to be the Jews, the Mossad! Thanks for the tip.

To churros and the many other "apolitical" members who try to convince Roosh to renounce politics or put politics aside:

It would be, I humbly think, a mistake, for Roosh, to lessen his involvement in politics. He would actually fall in a dead-end trap if he were to do so.

I contend that now, the fake, manufactured outrage over the "legalized on private property" satirical article, is over, and cannot be rekindled.

So Roosh cannot anymore be tainted with this false accusation, as things have changed in the world. Trump has beaten and ridiculed all these "sex" accusations, and the permanent Weinstein scandal has bored and numbed people, regarding manufactured sex stories.

So the time would probably be right for Roosh, if I might give my opinion, to enter the political arena, like say, Eastwood did, trying to get elected on some local position. Also it would open to him massive opportunities to troll the SJWs and the Left. And he has assets that make him impermeable to accusations of being "a raycist Alt-Right man".

So well, I'd actually advocate for Roosh to increase his interest in politics and run for some local office. Well, not in DC of course, but in some Conservative town, to begin with. Just my two cents. The future is more politics, not less.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
Let's just try and put some effort into keeping political topics in the political threads (including making political jokes). It is a reasonable request by forum members who do not come here for politics. I think most of us want everyone to enjoy themselves and can understand why they wouldn't if politics are seeping into other non-political threads.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
Going Strong and supporters,

What actions do you take in real life to further your political causes?

How are you making a difference in the world?

Most guys here either agree with you about politics or don't care. There is already a Politics forum. I don't think anyone is opposed to having a reasonable amount of political commentary in the other sections of the forum. The problem that many of us have is the relentless effort made to inject politics into conversations where most guys don't want to talk about politics.

One of the reasons I don't want to talk about politics is because most political people tend to talk incessantly about politics but take no action. The result is everyone getting stressed out but not doing a damn thing.

You guys are the political experts. Tell us how we can stop wasting all this time arguing and do something that will make a difference.

Maybe there is a compromise here. Maybe more people will be receptive to your beliefs if you focus on actions we can take rather than arguing so much about politics in threads where guys don't want to talk about politics.
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(06-27-2018 11:26 AM)birthday cat Wrote:  One of the reasons I don't want to talk about politics redpill/feminism is because most political redpill/feminism people tend to talk incessantly about political redpill/feminism but take no action. The result is everyone getting stressed out but not doing a damn thing.

You guys are the political redpill/feminism experts. Tell us how we can stop wasting all this time arguing and do something that will make a difference.

Maybe there is a compromise here. Maybe more people will be receptive to your beliefs if you focus on actions we can take rather than arguing so much about politics redpill/feminism in threads where guys don't want to talk about politics redpill/feminism.

There are a lot of topics that could be substituted for politics in your post. You're going down a slippery slope with that line of thinking.

Edited to add:
One of the biggest benefits to discussing topics such as politics/redpill/feminism is not for us to figure out some remedy but to challenge others who may come across those topic discussions. How else are you going to spread ideas if you don't talk about them? Will it change anything? Who knows, but I do see more and more people changing their minds on a multitude of topics. Change doesn't happen in a vacuum.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
Examples of politics spilling over into threads outside the EE forum?

Maybe Roosh should make a non-political offtopic subforum. Some forums have that. Where everyone plays nice and whatever. Sort of like Reddit maybe.
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RE: The push to make the forum "apolitical" is actually very politically-motivated
I feel sorry for the guys who go completely Autistic on the forum and then act the same in real life and around people.

This usually leads to alienation or hive mind.

It's like dudes who think every girl is literally going to accuse them of rape for even breathing.

Such concentrated worries can't be healthy for a person and their social life.

Guys here forget, THE FORUM IS A CONCENTRATED WORLD VIEW.

Some of the guys on the forum have to go out and enjoy life.

You'll notice most guys who are obsessed with politics, don't travel, don't game, and don't enjoy life.

The ones who do game and enjoy life but are obsessed with politics, are mostly in the Trump thread, or a European one.

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(06-27-2018 11:26 AM)birthday cat Wrote:  Going Strong and supporters,

What actions do you take in real life to further your political causes?

I might actually be an occasional militant for not just one, but two, (very) Conservative political parties. So, one might say, I could sometimes help with recruitment and the organization (logistics) of (legally approved by the Prefectures) political events and meetings.

I also occasionally talk to, say (if I remember this clearly) a couple of influential politicians (one being center-right, the other real Right-Wing), and well, I use these precious minutes to foster in their minds my (our) views on the subjects that matter the most to me, politically speaking. And this is, but you guessed it already, illegal migrations from Libya.

You'd be surprised by the way to know that some politicians who play moderate center-Right in front of the media, actually are very right-wing in private life, and totally aware of the lethal migratory threat coming from sub-Sahara. Even though in front of the media, they usually avoid the subject. But this is another subject.

Anyway, it shows that "politicized members" from the forum, are not all "just talk and online brag". We act in real life, modestly maybe but within our possibilities.

As to what yourself could or should do for good Conservative politics, well, it depends on the time you have, the resources you have, the access to people or knowledge or data you have. Just do your best, try and score points against Leftists and degenerates (trans, lesbians etc), when you have time and opportunity to do so.
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